Ok so i was just wondering. Im going small on this build so I chose the cc502 but still have some patriot gold extremes laying around. So my question is can you have too much spring for the cam? What would the side effect be?
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Ok so i was just wondering. Im going small on this build so I chose the cc502 but still have some patriot gold extremes laying around. So my question is can you have too much spring for the cam? What would the side effect be?
Too much spring pressure for the cam can do different things depending on how much over their rated pressures we are talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggin'89
You can prematurely ruin cam lobes on cheap cams, crush hydraulic lifters, and cause deflection on weak/thin pushrods...besides the obvious loss of power from having to compress stiffer springs.
In your case though? I think you will be fine :).
yeah i figured i'd probably be ok but still have more pressure than I need. Do you think it will eat up any power? It does use all Ti locks/retainers
That's the biggest line of bull$hit I've heard. Most people put on springs that can't handle the cam. How can a .650 lift spring hurt at a 502's lift ? People upgrade everyday to a better spring and higher lift rocker. That's what LE recommends on the LE2's. Think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck
its very tough to over spring an engine....you will have very minimal loss from heavy springs on an engine(within reason). what kind of seat and open pressures are we talking on the spring your looking at?
Please re-read what I wrote and comprehend it first.Quote:
Originally Posted by lt1-xjs
Max lift is one particular measure of a spring, and was not what I was referring to. You cannot of course "over spring" a cam by the spring having too much max lift - but too high closed pressure, open pressure, or spring rate can do all sorts of nasty things to a valvetrain. Run a stock lifter and cheap cam with a 700# open pressure @ max lift spring and see what happens to your setup in a few short miles. Your lifter will puke its guts and most likely take a lot of things with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck
Like I said though, in his case he will be fine.
no need to get in an arguement here. this definately isn't my first rodeo. Just the first time running a "baby cam" and wanted a second opinion to be sure I wasn't missing anything. Puck is right as far as running CRAZY stiff springs collapsing stock style lifters, but anyone running that big of a cam and stiff springs is stupid for using a hydraulic lifter and stud mounted rockers.
Anyways like I said I was just making sure I wasn't overlooking anything b/c the point of this build is stockish drivability that sounds better than stock. Im done trying to have a race car that goes fast or have the a nasty cammed car. Just want an easy driving, mild but healthy sounding car with a/c and everything else i ripped out of my last one:D
At 700#,of course that would be too much spring.
closed 155# @ 1.8" open 410# @ 1.140
there will be no issues with that spring...Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggin'89