Low 60's for 6 speeds.

[mtperformance]

If only I had a slushbox this would be a non issue for me, but I dont I have a M6 in my 97 TA and I am trying to cut a 1.5-1.6 short time.

I have the power under the hood and I am all about putting a 9" in the back of it, not to mention a grippy clutch and I do have 255/50/16 M/T DR's on the stockers.

But what about suspension, what would work best for a gear slammer with a street and strip car like myself.

Oh and if you have a stick and have already been down this road, what is a good pinion angle for a guy looking to hook but still not chew up u joints on the street?

Best time to date for me in this car is a 1.8 and I did go 1.9 as well but usually I am in the low to mid 2's. :owned:

[96lt1m6]

Strong rear end
Sticky tires
"the power to do it"
whats the hold up?
Launch that bitch at 5500 and do it.....wish i could but my soon to be replaced 10-bolt will not make it LOL
my best 60' was 1.98 without the listed parts below.....-2.5* is a great start on pinion angle

TQ arm BMR, Madman
LCAs
Qa1 coilovers
any of these parts on your car? they should!

[popo8]

Im confused from reading the OP.... do you have a 6spd or not????


" but I dont I have a M6 in my 97 TA and I am trying to cut a 1.5-1.6 short time."

"what would work best for a gear slammer with a street and strip car like myself."

[mtperformance]

I do have moly LCA's and I am more than likely going with a body mount adj. torq.arm as well as panhard bar, but I guess my main question is about the pinion angle and springs and shocks.

And on a side note I once used my rev limiter as a launch controller, it didnt work out so well.:D http://www.youtube.com/user/75dusterBB#p/u/44/_zAyF_hx9po

[mtperformance]

Im confused from reading the OP.... do you have a 6spd or not????


" but I dont I have a M6 in my 97 TA and I am trying to cut a 1.5-1.6 short time."

"what would work best for a gear slammer with a street and strip car like myself." Yes I have a six speed and it is a street car that gets taken to the track from time to time.

[popo8]

Yes I have a six speed and it is a street car that gets taken to the track from time to time.


ok, i musta misread

[96lt1m6]

Yes I have a six speed and it is a street car that gets taken to the track from time to time.


I do have moly LCA's and I am more than likely going with a body mount adj. torq.arm as well as panhard bar, but I guess my main question is about the pinion angle and springs and shocks.




you want to start at -2.5* i have friends running with -4* though
love the video,was that a broken driveshaft? gotta launch hard no matter what to get that 1.6 60'


[QUOTE=popo8;122037]ok, i musta misread
LOL, all truth POPO i had to read the inital post several times since it does come across rather confusing..

[mtperformance]

though
love the video,was that a broken driveshaft? gotta launch hard no matter what to get that 1.6 60'.
That was a 6100 launch on a really sticky track and I popped the differential, I have no problem launching that high just dont want to blow the tires off when I do.

[96lt1m6]

I was once told "If you don't break parts you aint racin" that was from Taner

[Fastbird]

How much power are you making, and where? That's going to determine launch RPM.

Personally, the single most important thing that factors into an M6 low 60' time is GEARS. You'd be hard pressed to find an M6 car cutting 1.5 or lower with anything less than a 4.11. On a 3.42 you can kiss a solid 1.5-1.6 good bye. On a 3.73 you should be able to drill it down to the 1.6 range with a good solid launch, maybe in the 1.5 range if you're very lucky.

But.....in addition to the rest of the suspension, tires become that much more important with the higher gear ratio's. You can't expect to have the same tire holding on a 3.42 gearing to hold on a 4.11 gearing unless you're already holding a big wide tire under there anyway.

Just my $.02. Now for some realistic advice:

Experiment. There's no "formula" or "Key" to getting it done. Each car is different, each driver is different. Hit a T&T day, make changes and adjustments, and learn what works and what doesn't for YOU and YOUR CAR.

[AChotrod]

On stock shocks and springs I have gone 1.6s. Stock -2 pinion angle, LCA,PHB, Hoosier QTPs, 2 step and a street twin clutch, 4.10s in the S60 rear end.

Since then I added Strange DA front shocks with 300# springs and comp 3ways out back with stock springs.

[Fastbird]

On stock shocks and springs I have gone 1.6s. Stock -2 pinion angle, LCA,PHB, Hoosier QTPs, 2 step and a street twin clutch, 4.10s in the S60 rear end.

Since then I added Strange DA front shocks with 300# springs and comp 3ways out back with stock springs.

You're a freak Mike. :D

[AChotrod]

lol^^Its all about the tires.

[Fastbird]

lol^^Its all about the tires.

Well those gears aren't hurting you either. :D

[AChotrod]

True^^^^

[CALL911]

I've cut a 1.5 with my Z with slicks and decent suspension. My car is mostly for the street as well (and does better on the street for some reason), but I also track it a handfull of times a year. That 1.5 was with 3.73's and big baller 18X9 wheels on the front. I think I usually launch at 4800 or so RPM. Any more and it spins, any less and it bogs. You will have to find your own "sweet spot" for your car/setup.

Tires, suspension, a good burnout and some practice is what it takes.

I have QA1 drag springs and adjustable shocks, BMR K-member, BMR upper and lower A-arms, Hotchkiss LCA's, BMR Torque arm, BMR subframe connectors, MOSER 12 bolt, 1LE panhard bar, Energy Suspension Poly motor and tranny mounts, and Hoosier slicks on some old salad shooter wheels. The car has 614 RWHP, and hooks up in 1st gear on cold Nittos on the street, so suspension definatly helps.

[cls-chicago]

achotrod, what 2 step did you have/use.

[RoadHawk]

Outa my league. But Id be sure to check The Trans with that 60'ft n 330'

[Fastbird]

Damn Ben, I thought you only made it into the 1.6 range with your car. I didn't know you cut a 1.5.

[CALL911]

Damn Ben, I thought you only made it into the 1.6 range with your car. I didn't know you cut a 1.5.

Did it more than once. I am actually surprised the car was capable of it with the huge wheels on the front. Makes me wonder what skinnies on the front would do. Not that it matters cause I can't find anyones to borrow that will fit over my brakes, and because I hardly track the car more than a few times a year, its not worth it to me to spend the money on them.

[mtperformance]

Thanks for all the replies guys.

My car sits at stock ride height and I was told even though it isnt lowered that it would benefit from relocation brackets for the LCA.

What do you guys think?

[96lt1m6]

Thanks for all the replies guys.

My car sits at stock ride height and I was told even though it isnt lowered that it would benefit from relocation brackets for the LCA.

What do you guys think?
As long as your LCAs are level w/ the ground or the LCAs are slightly lower in the rear you will be fine... save that money for something more beneficial

[AChotrod]

achotrod, what 2 step did you have/use.
MSD Digital 6 plus

[BOOSTNU]

My car went a 1.61 60ft with just lcas and et streets with a 3.70 gear. Sounds funny but I had 4.56 gears and couldnt do better than 1.7s then dropped to 3.70s and picked up a tenth on 60ft and 3 to 4 tenths on big end.