So who in here has the rarest factory F-body?

[CALL911]

Just wondering who from this website has the rarest F-body? I have a fairly rare LS1 Formula WS6. From what I know there were only around 200 built between 1998-2000. They didn't make any in 2001 or 2002. But I know I don't come close to winning, as I know Transamman has a Comp T/A (1 of 72 made).

What does everyone that is rare? Who has the most rare?

[Fastbird]

Not quite only 200, but I just found this for the "Bird" folks:

http://www.marshu.com/ws6-car-gm-firebird-models-formula-trans-am-production-numbers-1993-1994-1995-1996-1997-1998-1999-2000-2001.php

[Fixxer99TA]

IIRC my car is one of 13 in that color that year, not sure on the other years though.

Fairly rare, I guess.

[tomsws6]

hmmmm 1 of 2800. hahaha how do you find out your build # for a 97 ws6?

[941le]

I have a Patriot Red 1LE from 94. Im sure that there arnt that maybe 1LEs my color

[Joker Z28]

Where can I go to see what all the options and how many where made ect. ect. ?

[bluebird94]

As far as I know 344 formulas were made in quasar in 1994.

[GreenZ96]

One of 228 Polo Green, 6 spds for 1996

[RoboLuke]

I'm one of 3352. So not rare at all. :cry:

[AChotrod]

In 96 there were 524 Formula WS6s 124 red ones But that includes all A4/M6s hardtops/verts/ t-tops with both cloth and leather interiors.

There is probably less than 50 of my car. Hardtop cloth with a 6spd. So its very rare.

[CALL911]

Not quite only 200, but I just found this for the "Bird" folks:

http://www.marshu.com/ws6-car-gm-firebird-models-formula-trans-am-production-numbers-1993-1994-1995-1996-1997-1998-1999-2000-2001.php

I guess its not quite as rare as I was led to believe. Still not a model you'd see everyday though.

I didn't start this thread for (I am rare because I have a power antenna in green with a hardtop, yeah, they didn't make many of those).

More so of models like the Hurst edition ect. Who has the rarest?

[jaysz2893]

they didnt even make a 1993 Ultra-Z, so my car is RARE!!!

[SexyTransAm]

mine is a 1 of 1 !!!

the only black 95 with black C6 Z06 wheels
































































































































that i own :cool:

[tomsws6]

iv only seen 1 or 2 hurst editions for sale and one was in dupont registry and the other was a dealer in newark De about 6 months ago. sweet looking car though. i think id love to have a true lt4 car. but i love ttops too much.

[CALL911]

So far legit wise, I think Transamman takes the cake with his 1 of 72 Comp T/A's.

I always liked how the were only in silver.

[Transamman25]

Thank you, Thank You yet their is one car more rare than mine that as soon as I acquire, I'll be happy to show off ! Hint one of less than 60 !

[941le]

haha how many Patriot Red 1LEs do u think there are out there? With no options in a 6spd. There was what 125 (?) 1LEs made in 94 and who knows how many were my color.

[purple 95 z28]

95 dark purple metallic m6 hard top. Pretty rare color, but not the rarest. Hard top m6 cars were kinda rare, right?

[njrextreme]

hmmmm 1 of 2800. hahaha how do you find out your build # for a 97 ws6?

Does this help?

Total production numbers for 1997 ************************************************** *********************************** Firebird 16,394 Firebird convertible 1,226 Formula 2,766 1LE WS6 14
Formula WS6 473 Firehawks 29
Formula Convertible 324 Formula Conv. WS6 41
Trans Am 8,656 Trans Am WS6 2,827
Trans Am Convertibles 1,390 Trans Am Conv. WS6 463 ************************************************** *********************************** Total Production 30,756

Option by percentage / numbers Option Type Percent Numbers 97TA
Cruise Control 92.828,542
Power Locks 91.328,081
Power Windows 90.127,712
Dual Power Mirrors 90.127,712
Rear Defroster 83.025,528
Aluminum Wheels 81.825,159
Automatic (A4) 77.423,805
CD Player76.723,590
Keyless Entry68.321,006X
T-tops65.019,991
Limited Slip58.117,869
Anti Theft35.310,857
Leather Seats32.910,119
Memory Seats23.47,197
Premium Sound23.37,166
Chrome Wheels19.25,905
Manual (M6)13.94,275
Power Seats12.43,914
Manual (M5)8.72,676
Traction Control7.02,153
__________________________________________________ ________


Tips to understanding your vehicles serial (VIN) number

They are as follows:

1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured. For example: U.S.A.(1or4), Canada(2)

2nd character- Identifies the manufacturer. For example; Chevrolet(1), General Motors(G), Pontiac(2or5).

3rd character- Identifies vehicle type or manufacturing division.

4th to 8th characters- Identifies vehicle features such as body style, engine type, model, series, etc.

9th character- Identifies VIN accuracy as check digit.

10th character- Identifies the model year. For example: 1993(P), 1994(R), 1995(S), 1996(T), 1997(V), 1998(W), 1999(X), 2000(Y)------2001(1), 2002(2), 2003(3)

11th character- Identifies the assembly plant for the vehicle.

12th to 17th characters- Identifies the sequence of the vehicle for production as it rolled off the manufacturers assembly line.

[Noah's95z28]

I know mine is not that rare but who has the camaro website to break down camaro production numbers?

[CALL911]

Again, I am judging "rareness" as models from the factory like a Hurst edition, or pace car edition, or Formula Firehawk WS6. Not polo green with a hardtop and leather type rareness.

[jaysz2893]

I know mine is not that rare but who has the camaro website to break down camaro production numbers?
Here is one:

http://www.camaro-registry.com/production.htm

I will try to find the one i found years ago that broke it down further (color, trans, etc). I do know that in 1993 17,850 Z28's were made, with 11136 of them being red like mine. Only 4080 Z's had t56's

[joelster]

My car is the rarest of them all!

It's a '94Z28 coupe, no t-tops, auto, black with a charcoal interior.

I've never seen another like it!

[hotrod96z28]

i know if you want to know everything about your camaro you ca go to www.camarosource.ca (http://www.camarosource.ca) you can type your VIN i ad it will tell you all kinds of stuff

[jaysz2893]

i know if you want to know everything about your camaro you ca go to www.camarosource.com (http://www.camarosource.com) you can type your VIN i ad it will tell you all kinds of stuff


It is actually camarosource.ca:
http://www.camarosource.ca/main_new_site.php?url=open_new_layout.htm

Here is the VIN decoder:
http://www.camarosource.ca/php/camaro_info_db/index.php?act=decoding&year=1987&tm=1

[greenbird94ta]

i have a 94 t/a, that's polo green. i know that's pretty rare for t/a's from what i'm told. not a ws6 car either. but it's a t-top car. auto.

[bluebird94]

the guy with the quasar blue 1997 TA, didnt they make just like 36 of those or something?

[sk8prk]

Untill recently I had a 96 WS6 Hardtop, only about 35 or so made, a4 on top of that, x wife sold it while I sat in Iraq. Not quite the special edition the OP was looking for, but rare none the less.

[Huff035]

Untill recently I had a 96 WS6 Hardtop, only about 35 or so made, a4 on top of that, x wife sold it while I sat in Iraq. Not quite the special edition the OP was looking for, but rare none the less.

wow...that would put me through the roof...

[KissMyWhtSS]

It's hard to compare rareness without defining it.

There's some people who consider their Gold '98 Camaro's rare. Are we talking rareness on the basis of trim levels? color? transmission? roof type?

The main point is to by the car you want, not based on how rare it is. There are very few Camaro's I'd consider a "collectors item."

While my camaro is "fairly rare," I'm quite proud of the fact that it has been driven and enjoyed by 4 owners over the past 12 years and 152,000+ miles.

[CALL911]

It's hard to compare rareness without defining it.

There's some people who consider their Gold '98 Camaro's rare. Are we talking rareness on the basis of trim levels? color? transmission? roof type?

The main point is to by the car you want, not based on how rare it is. There are very few Camaro's I'd consider a "collectors item."



http://i48.tinypic.com/or8o5f.jpg

This thread wasn't created for basis of purchasing, it was made for what the title says, "So who in here has the rarest F-body". And then to define that I stated in the first post for it to be model, not really color and transmission type. I gave examples as well, as in my LS1 Formula WS6 (note I didn't go into detail about transmission, T-Tops, color ect.). Thats more or less what I wanted.

I've actually mentioned this a few times throughout this thread beyond the ORIGINAL FIRST POST, but I think I have been ignored by some probably just seeing the title and then jumping in without reading anything. Not really a big deal I guess, but it is a little annoying. :dots:

[KLaBZ28]

Is a 95 Sebring Silver Hardtop Z28 rare? Grey/charcoal 2 tone interior? lol

[Transamman25]

lmao

[1963SS]

How about my boy's Formula NHRA Special Edition.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/billburgette/firebird006.jpg

Less than 100 produced in black/black. I have since got him the Raptor hood. Why does it make my car look small??

[MeanGreen94Z]

one of one 94 LT1 cars that came factory with the LS1 :shiner:

dont forget those real rare f-bodies with the vette motor!

[Tarheel'Z']

one of one 94 LT1 cars that came factory with the LS1 :shiner:


i believe those are referred to as 'factory defects':shame:














sorry i had to:D

[Transamman25]

LMAO !

[KLaBZ28]

Is there a website where you can see how many cars were made with your options? Seriously everywhere I go tho people tell me seeing a hardtop 95 z is rare? Whatever all I care is its got low miles :D

[hotrod96z28]

www.camarosource.ca (http://www.camarosource.ca) will tell you how many and what colors etc. were made

[KissMyWhtSS]

I've actually mentioned this a few times throughout this thread beyond the ORIGINAL FIRST POST, but I think I have been ignored by some probably just seeing the title and then jumping in without reading anything. Not really a big deal I guess, but it is a little annoying.You're first post actually has has a couple mistakes, but I'm not here to be a "grammar nazi."


What does everyone have that is rare? Who has the most rare?
I have a 1997 Camaro SS. I do not consider it to be the most rare f-body of the members on this website.

Per SLP:
1997 Camaro SS (3038 total, 2892 LT1)
306 White (not including 30th SS's)
182 White w/ t-tops
124 White w/ t-tops and manual transmission

I could break it down by SLP options as well but didn't feel like looking up those numbers again (had a document with them, lost it). I believe roughly 50 1997 SS's had the engine oil cooler package (mine included)

A few random rare f-bodys for you:
1993 Firehawks - 201
1994 Firehawks - 500 (I know a guy with 2)
1997 Firehawks (LT4) - 29
1996 - 55 1LE
1996 - 225 B4C

[gregrob]

911 I know this isnt what youre looking for but since none of us really have "collectors editions" or special editions why not continue with the theme everyone turned it into lol.

Mine is a 94 M6 hardtop crank window. And its not a "stripper" or 1LE. Was just simply ordered with crank windows.

Beat that.. Lol

[proace4]

i dont really have anything rare 911... but my opti has never given me any problems!!! lol

Transamman25--- post up some picks of your car man. i'm curious now!

[ksmyss]

I have never been able to find production numbers but of the 2,410 total ss built in 96 (verts and coupes) i would think a fairly base model white hardtop with tan leather and non-performance exhaust was fairly rare.

just found this and if my math is right it is 1 of 10 or so. no exhaust, no oil cooler, hard top, 6 speed, non torsen if those numbers are right.

White = 370 or 16.35 %
Teal = 77 or 3.40 %
Black = 818 or 36.15 %
Polo Green = 167 or 7.38 %
Red = 831 or 36.72 %
T-Tops = 1309 or 57.84 %
Coupe = 690 or 30.49 %
Convertible = 264 or 11.67 %
Automatic = 767 or 33.89 %
6-Speed = 1496 or 66.11 %
Exhaust = 2072 or 91.56 %
Torsen = 1263 or 55.81 %
Suspension = 905 or 39.99 %
Hurst Shifter = 1354 or 90.51 % (of 6-spd cars)

Oil Cooler = 286 or 12.64 % (option became available late in year around march)
Floor Mats = 1947 or 86.03 %
Car Cover = 1221 or 53.95 %
R1 Tires = 93 or 4.11 %
Syn. Lubes = 321 or 14.18 % (remember, this was included at no charge with the Torsen)

[AChotrod]

I dunno what you all think but any WS6 Formula is a very rare car. So rare they wanted 16k asking price for my car when i bought it 1.5 yrs ago.
IMO SSs and WS6 TAs are not rare at all.

[AChotrod]

How about my boy's Formula NHRA Special Edition.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/billburgette/firebird006.jpg

Less than 100 produced in black/black. I have since got him the Raptor hood. Why does it make my car look small??
I had the exact same car.:cool: But really theres nothing special about them, besides the 3.23 rear in an auto and some badges.

[1963SS]

I know, but don't forget the power steering cooler. I don't know why in the world you'd need one but it's there. I've been driving with spirit since 1964 and I've never known my steering fluid to get hot.:hmm:

[gregrob]

It does on a road course. Especially a tight twisty ones.

[Tarheel'Z']

i dont really have anything rare 911... but my opti has never given me any problems!!!


you realize that you shouldnt have said that dont you?:shame: im just sayin

[AChotrod]

I said that once and right after that my opti blew up :(

[Fastbird]

I dunno what you all think but any WS6 Formula is a very rare car. So rare they wanted 16k asking price for my car when i bought it 1.5 yrs ago.
IMO SSs and WS6 TAs are not rare at all.

QFT. I believe starting in 97 the WS6 option outsold the normal Trans Am option every year.

[Noah's95z28]

When I bought my Z the RPO codes had been ripped off the door. Does anybody know of a way to get those codes? From the vin or other ways?

[AChotrod]

QFT. I believe starting in 97 the WS6 option outsold the normal Trans Am option every year.
Im sure they did. Thats why Formula WS6s are so rare.
BTW WTF does QFT mean lol

[CamaroGirl]

quoted for truth

[95formula383lt1]

i think bitchinbird99lt1 has the rarest of them all how many 1999 lt1 a4 cars have u seen :whistle: jk

theres a 1994 firehawk on ebay only 11 made that color and i want it!

[Transamman25]

link ?

[95formula383lt1]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rare-Pontiac-FIREHAWK-SLP-Super-Low-Miles-1-of-11-TEAL_W0QQitemZ220510619328QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Ca rs_Trucks?hash=item33577506c0 heres the link, i want it!!!!!!!!!

[Tarheel'Z']

damn,,that is a sweet as hell,,wonder what the reserve is

[95formula383lt1]

i dont know but who wants to give me a loan for it, im unemployed and promise to pay u back before u die (depending on ur age)

[Huff035]

wow!

[CALL911]

Why did it have to be Teal though? I'll probably get ripped for this by some, but I hate the Teal colored F-bodies. I thought that was the worst color GM made! I am glad there are only 11 of those hideous colored Firehawks out there of that year.

As for the thread, I think Transsaman takes the cake with his Comp/TA. No one else in here has proven they have a model that is more rare. I really could care less on the color or options. Just purely based upon model or style.

Everyone else has pretty much turned the thread into what they wanted, and thats fine as I'm glad I could provide it for whatever it has turned into. I got what I wanted out of it.

[sinSStr]

I do. Rarest F-body evah.

[Transamman25]

Not rarest but damn close ... the rarest of the F bodies are 1 of 60 1996 Harley Davidson edition Trans Am's , all were black and 90% of them went to SO Cal .... someone go out n find one in good shape !
(look all the way at the bottom of this page)

http://www.firebirdgallery.com/dealer_installlot1.htm

[Fastbird]

Not rarest but damn close ... the rarest of the F bodies are 1 of 60 1996 Harley Davidson edition Trans Am's , all were black and 90% of them went to SO Cal .... someone go out n find one in good shape !
(look all the way at the bottom of this page)

http://www.firebirdgallery.com/dealer_installlot1.htm

I wouldn't count those same as I wouldn't count the Blackbirds. Those were dealer collaboration vehicles.......uncommon yes, but not a GM optioned car. GM didn't partner to make those cars, the dealers did. GM Partnered to do the Hawks, Hurst T/A (Now THAT is a rare 4th Gen), Comp T/A's, ect.

[95formula383lt1]

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/1457659084.html

1996 WS6 Trans Am Harley Davidson Edition - $7500:)

[jaysz2893]

Man, Harley puts their name on everything...

And IF GM and SLP made an Ultra Z in 1993.. well... that would have ROCKED!!

wern't ther only 19 or so 1LE 1993's, IS that fitting of the "Rare" catergory?

[CALL911]

Man, Harley puts their name on everything...

And IF GM and SLP made an Ultra Z in 1993.. well... that would have ROCKED!!

wern't ther only 19 or so 1LE 1993's, IS that fitting of the "Rare" catergory?

If that is true, then yeah, I would definatly consider that to fit in my definition of "rare".

As far as why I started the thread goes to find who on this board has the rarest, I still think Transaman takes the cake. No one else has yet to prove otherwise.

[GreenZ96]

25th anniv. firehawk TA were the rarest of the rare... 3 total... 2 were convertables one was a coupe. Next was the hard top, six speed, 25th TA with Cassette... 4 total

http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/events/hppp_0802_saratoga_auto_museum_firebird_lawn_show/photo_03.html

[AChotrod]

i dont know but who wants to give me a loan for it, im unemployed and promise to pay u back before u die (depending on ur age)
Ask Popo

[Tarheel'Z']

Ask Popo


:laugh:,,thats messed up mikie

[sinSStr]

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/1457659084.html

1996 WS6 Trans Am Harley Davidson Edition - $7500:)

God I hate people that advertise like that. "This car....this car....this car...this car...this car...this car..." :shame:


25th anniv. firehawk TA were the rarest of the rare... 3 total... 2 were convertables one was a coupe. Next was the hard top, six speed, 25th TA with Cassette... 4 total

http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/events/hppp_0802_saratoga_auto_museum_firebird_lawn_show/photo_03.html

Hot. ROH wheels ftw.

[CALL911]

25th anniv. firehawk TA were the rarest of the rare... 3 total... 2 were convertables one was a coupe. Next was the hard top, six speed, 25th TA with Cassette... 4 total

http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/events/hppp_0802_saratoga_auto_museum_firebird_lawn_show/photo_03.html

Yeah, but who in here has one? Again, the cake goes to Transaman...

[AChotrod]

Im up there!

[CALL911]

How many Formula WS6's where there in 96? There were only about 200 made in 98 (my year).

Transamans Comp/TA is one of 72. Is yours more rare than that?

[GreenZ96]

Yeah, but who in here has one? Again, the cake goes to Transaman...


Again, people keep saying "such and such" is rare this and rare that.... These are the rarest of any fbody even made.

[CALL911]

Again, people keep saying "such and such" is rare this and rare that.... These are the rarest of any fbody even made.

Yeah, but read the title of the thread. It is to find out who has the rarest F-body on the board. Not "what is the rarest F-body".

[AChotrod]

Transamans is probably the rarest on the site, but there were only 524 Formula WS6s in 96. So it may just be in the top few rarest LT1s on the site.

[GreenZ96]

Yeah, but read the title of the thread. It is to find out who has the rarest F-body on the board. Not "what is the rarest F-body".


True, but the rest of the thread is a bunch of mumbo jumbo about other cars not even on the board either.

[nascarnate326]

My car is as common as it gets. Polo Green, tan interior, auto, ttops.

:)

It has made it 211k though.

[CALL911]

True, but the rest of the thread is a bunch of mumbo jumbo about other cars not even on the board either.

The thread was still intended to find the rarest F-body owner of this board.

[KissMyWhtSS]

just found this and if my math is right it is 1 of 10 or so. no exhaust, no oil cooler, hard top, 6 speed, non torsen if those numbers are right.
I know a guy with a base model '96 SS, and he was talking about how his was pretty rare because basically the only SLP option it had was the synthetics package which people typically only ordered on fully loaded SS's.

Mine on the other hand was pretty fully loaded from the factory. 2otl, torsen, synthetics, oil cooler, etc.

[Fastbird]

Ok, this thread has gone the way of pointless. The intent of the thread was to find out who ON HERE has the rarest F-Body. This one is done.