4:10 gears, What brand?

[5POINT7]

Just looking for opinions on what brand to get, I heard richmonds whine, just wondering what brand you guys are running, and what else is needed to do the change?

[CamaroGirl]

heard gmpp makes a good set

[Huff035]

I have richmond 3.73's and they don't whine at all. The place that put them in jokingly said there must be something wrong with them since they don't lol. I've always heard Motive was good.

And you will have to get your car tuned for the gears because your speedo is going to be way off.

[dakota]

strange makes some good shit.

[BLOWNDFIZ]

All gears will whine if not set up correctly. Richmond or Motive are good choices. I prefer Motive over Richmond, we sell both at work and Motive has better service IMO.

[PipesTA]

Motive gear w/ install kit. Check your axle bearings and seals when you're in there.

[joelster]

The whining is not just from the gears being installed incorrectly. Richmonds are known to have a slightly higher amount of nickel in them which makes them softer (better for a hard launch), which makes them less brittle. I have a dana60 setup directly from Strange Engineering and it whines a bit. I also have no rear carpet so it can be loud at times. Does it bother me? Nope, not one bit. It sounds pretty damn cool actually.

[5POINT7]

isnt motive a brand from GM? I was looking into those, so I will need an install kit?

[Wooshie]

I have the GM/Motive 4:10 gears and I love em.

[96LT1355Z28]

I've always had good luck with Motive, but I've never used anything else to compare em to.

[gregrob]

In my car the STRANGE gears have held up much better than the Richmonds that were in it before.

They snapped like a fat ladys ankle.

I'd go for Strange or Motive. Stay away from Richmond

[96LT1355Z28]

They snapped like a fat ladys ankle.


Nice! :laugh: :claps:

[Tarheel'Z']

dont mean to hijack but,,,,im looking into the 4.10's as well but which install kit is needed? the place i was looking at them had 3 levels of kits,,kinda like a standard,deluxe,and premier,,looks like every level comes with a few more bearings,,etc..what kits are you guys using?

[CamaroGirl]

In my car the STRANGE gears have held up much better than the Richmonds that were in it before.

They snapped like a fat ladys ankle.

I'd go for Strange or Motive. Stay away from Richmond
*cankle
richmond released a cheaper line called excel-they're half the price and they'll only handle up to 450 hp, they're made in india.
were they those ones?

[5POINT7]

dont mean to hijack but,,,,im looking into the 4.10's as well but which install kit is needed? the place i was looking at them had 3 levels of kits,,kinda like a standard,deluxe,and premier,,looks like every level comes with a few more bearings,,etc..what kits are you guys using?

I assume basic should be fine, Im probably going to go with this setup
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=vshop&vid=4&pcid=68 its probably bad enough Im dumping money into the 10 Bolt :(, but I want to have a little fun.

[Tarheel'Z']

I assume basic should be fine, Im probably going to go with this setup
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=vshop&vid=4&pcid=68 its probably bad enough Im dumping money into the 10 Bolt :(, but I want to have a little fun.

thats a nice looking kit,,guess my wishful thinking of a 200 buck gear swap is out of the question:(,,,,man is tax time ever gonna get here:D

[5POINT7]

you could just do the gears an the install kit, all the other stuff is extra to support everything from breaking, but then again its the 10 bolt.

[95LT1Z28]

I have 4.10 motives in mine and they are fine. They were in their when I bought the car but Ive had no problems with them yet. Alot of guys use richmond and strange its kinda like a user preference Ive never heard anybody having problems with richmond except the whine complaint.

[LT1/TA]

thats a nice looking kit,,guess my wishful thinking of a 200 buck gear swap is out of the question:(,,,,man is tax time ever gonna get here:D

Hi,I saw that you were looking to do a cheap gear swap.I don't know if you would want to do what I did,but I went to a salvage yard called Pull A Part(there is one in Charlotte) and I got a GM 4.10 gear out of a 94 S10.I got the whole rear end for about $65 of course you have to pull it yourself.All of my bearings looked good so I removed my 3.42 and installed the 4.10 in my Bird and I was good to go and I only spent $75 all together.

[93z]

What would be the best upgrade to go to, i have 3:10 in there now, should i go with 3:73, 4:10, ???
What brand?

[Tarheel'Z']

What would be the best upgrade to go to, i have 3:10 in there now, should i go with 3:73, 4:10, ???
What brand?


3.10? thats an odd one,,are you auto or m6

[5POINT7]

I never heard of 3:10?

[Phstratton]

Doesn't putting 4:10 gears in, basically suck all of your gas mileage?

[5POINT7]

I have yet to put mine in, from what I read in a m6 it isn't to bad. 65mph is at 2k rpm instead of 1.5k with stock gears.

[PipesTA]

Doesn't putting 4:10 gears in, basically suck all of your gas mileage?

I still get 25mpg on the highway cruising 75mph...

[Tarheel'Z']

I still get 25mpg on the highway cruising 75mph...

what rpm's are you turning at 75?

[5POINT7]

heres a little tool that can probably help some people out.

http://www.f-body.org/gears/

[PipesTA]

what rpm's are you turning at 75?

I want to say 21-2200ish in 6th gear. Car is gone for the winter so I'm not really positive on that.

[popo8]

Got 4.10s in mine and still pull down 22mpg with the 6 speed 70-80mph

[PipesTA]

heres a little tool that can probably help some people out.

http://www.f-body.org/gears/

Looks like I was right. According to that chart it's 2000rpm @ 74mph. If I take it to my 6800 redline I can go 252mph in 6th gear :laugh:

[BluBeaSSt]

I have Yukon's on my 9inch

[lttransam]

have motive and love them... super quiet.. the shop that put them in said they couldnt believe how quiet they were.. the one mechanic said his stock 3.42s were more noisy. its a M6 also..

[KissMyWhtSS]

GMPP, Motive