View Full Version : Is my cam ok for my blower?
popo8
09-09-2009, 08:01 AM
As many of you had read, my original motor was built by PARISH ENTERPRISES. If you are not familiar with the story, check it out.
ANyways, along with the headache of the garbage motor he built me, the cam was supposedly a "custom grind" for a blower application. Initially I did not question him and allowed him to keep his "secret squirrel" specs to himself.
Now that I have found him and am being rather forceful with him on other matters, I demanded my cam specs since I reused the same cam on the GOOD rebuild. (it was lumpy and I liked its sound)
Either way, I finaly got cam specs from him (although he is not sure which one he used) can someone who understands this stuff tell me, is this an OK cam for my boosted application....
"The cam specs are either 230/236@.050 (http://us.mc458.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=230/236@.050), .544/.555 with 1.6 rockers, or 234/242@.050 (http://us.mc458.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=234/242@.050), .574/.596 with 1.6 rockers, both 114lsa... Im almost sure it is the bigger cam but im trying to find out for sure."
robmnrd
09-09-2009, 09:32 AM
Neither of them is what I would call 'great' for a blower cam. Especially not the first one. But they'll both work, it's not like putting one in with a blwoer on top is gonna cause some kinda meltdown. :P
If you've got 300 bucks to spend on what could possibly be the most important part of your build in terms of power production/street manners, I'd get a custom grind either from Comp, or from LE or AI.
popo8
09-09-2009, 09:45 AM
Neither of them is what I would call 'great' for a blower cam. Especially not the first one. But they'll both work, it's not like putting one in with a blwoer on top is gonna cause some kinda meltdown. :P
If you've got 300 bucks to spend on what could possibly be the most important part of your build in terms of power production/street manners, I'd get a custom grind either from Comp, or from LE or AI.
ok, I just had no idea what I even had until the other day.... and even once I found out... its like CHINESE to me... thank You
robmnrd
09-09-2009, 12:01 PM
No problemo. :)
Generally when looking for a good blower cam, you want two things (IMO): Large LSA, and highly favored exhaust numbers. That's why the second one wouldn't be absolutely horrible. But I'd be looking for something in the 116 LSA area, and a good 12 degree split Intake to Exhaust (Depending on overall size of cam). But that second cam is still pretty big, even with a blower. Got any idle videos? :) If that's what's in it, I bet she sounds like all hell! :D
popo8
09-09-2009, 12:02 PM
I will check my street fire
popo8
09-09-2009, 12:42 PM
Ok, best I could find of what the cam sounds like is i the ORIGINAL Parish Enterprise motor after install. As you can see in the caption nothing was right, but you can hear her lump.....
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Procharged-383-Stroker_126811.htm
robmnrd
09-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Yes you can! lol
Very very nice. :)
popo8
09-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Yes you can! lol
Very very nice. :)
And that was why I just stayed with that cam... loved the sound... and now that the car is much better, I drive the bitch EVERY DAY, rain or shine....
robmnrd
09-09-2009, 05:38 PM
That's how it's supposed to be! It's a car, enjoy it! That's how I look at my car. :)
Fastbird
09-09-2009, 06:43 PM
So you got either a 230/236 Comp cam or a GM847 it looks like. Either will work (my blower cam was specced to 234/244 .610/.610 110* LSA) just fine. They won't be hindering you if that's what you're worried about.
cls-chicago
09-09-2009, 08:13 PM
my custom blower cam from bullet is 236/246 .624/.630 114. i have a real quick start up open header vid from the other night.. ill get more vids in a few days when its back in my hands.
YouTube - my red car 1st start
YouTube - my red car 1st start 2
Fastbird
09-09-2009, 09:32 PM
Oh that sounds WICKED!!!!!!
cls-chicago
09-10-2009, 12:40 AM
Oh that sounds WICKED!!!!!!
its WAY tamer with the exhuast on, true duals, 3" , spin techs, dumped w/ turndowns at the axle.
popo8
09-10-2009, 08:44 AM
So you got either a 230/236 Comp cam or a GM847 it looks like. Either will work (my blower cam was specced to 234/244 .610/.610 110* LSA) just fine. They won't be hindering you if that's what you're worried about.
Thats exactly what my concern was... thank you!
Schweet97Z
09-10-2009, 03:28 PM
Ive caught up on your story behind the Parish motor. Sorry to hear what happened. Sucks real bad. But knowing that you could have a better cam for your build, now that you have to do that over again, I would suggest getting with Lloyd Elliott or the guys over at Advance Inductions to get you the right cam for what you want. You could sell the cam you have now and have the right one for sure that you know will make the motor work how it should. Forced Induction cams are spec'd differently then N/A cams. (im sure you know that) Those specs that you listed resemble alot of the popular N/A cams, the bigger one being the same exact cam I have in my motor. Goodluck with whatever you decide to do.
Later,
Harold
cls-chicago
09-10-2009, 06:43 PM
i would just call the company who cuts the cams for lloyd elliot or ai.... like say...
bullet racing... seeing as how if you order a 400 dollar cam from ai, they send you a bullet cam.... i called bullet and got the same ai cam for 75 bucks less...
popo8
09-12-2009, 07:32 AM
YouTube - 96Z28m6
I decided to get you guys a quick walk around and idle vid of the car. I realy am not ready to do a cam swap right now.... but this winter will be a dif story if the consenses I could do much better and keep the car DD status...
popo8
09-12-2009, 07:35 AM
This is the manager at the shop (KNOPPS PERFORMANCE) where I "hang out" alot.
His 88 Iroc is not an LTX based vehicle but with a 414ci small block Chevy with a 700 lift solid roller and so much more, I figured it deserved a quick WALK AROUND VIDEO
YouTube - Chris Mill of knopps
The SRZ
09-12-2009, 06:00 PM
YouTube - 96Z28m6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyDgqn4JWTw&feature=email)
I decided to get you guys a quick walk around and idle vid of the car. I realy am not ready to do a cam swap right now.... but this winter will be a dif story if the consenses I could do much better and keep the car DD status...
Dude, that cam is hitting HARD! What's your CR? 8.8:1 for mine and sounds nothing like that but I'm also running a 4" exh too but she's mild compared how yours sounds.
popo8
09-13-2009, 06:35 AM
Dude, that cam is hitting HARD! What's your CR? 8.8:1 for mine and sounds nothing like that but I'm also running a 4" exh too but she's mild compared how yours sounds.
10:1 for me....
when you say "hitting hard" do you mean it in a good way or bad way. Cuz I LOVE the sound of that bitch.:devil:
The SRZ
09-13-2009, 02:02 PM
10:1 for me....
when you say "hitting hard" do you mean it in a good way or bad way. Cuz I LOVE the sound of that bitch.:devil:
In a good way. :D 10:1 explains it. Again, it sounds great!
popo8
09-13-2009, 02:20 PM
In a good way. :D 10:1 explains it. Again, it sounds great!
What kinda power is your car making with 22 lbs of boost.
The SRZ
09-20-2009, 04:22 PM
What kinda power is your car making with 22 lbs of boost.
Don't know you as the dyno has been alluding me for years. Supposedly I'll be hitting it in the next month or so. I imagine somewhere in mid 700 range but I'm not really concerned w/ peak numbers.
popo8
09-20-2009, 04:37 PM
wow..... im just impressed. how is the drivability of your car?
The SRZ
09-22-2009, 08:21 PM
wow..... im just impressed. how is the drivability of your car?
Drives like stock until you begin to roll on the throttle. :D Don't even think about punching it at any speed under 100mph.
popo8
09-23-2009, 06:53 AM
Drives like stock until you begin to roll on the throttle. :D Don't even think about punching it at any speed under 100mph.
NICEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Time for that new ASP pulley.... NEED MORE BOOST!
cls-chicago
09-29-2009, 05:25 PM
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popo8
10-04-2009, 06:54 PM
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uhhhh, ok.
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