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elitecamaro94
09-06-2009, 04:12 PM
Hey guys i got a 94z28 im lookin to upgrade my stock brakes. Car is my daily driver no road racing or anything so Ive been thinkin about some slotted or drilled and slotted rotors. I hear the drilled ones are prone to cracking under hard braking, but since the car isnt road raced will those be ok for me? Also where are some places to get some good prices and good pads as well. Thanks guys
941le
09-06-2009, 05:02 PM
If u wanna upgrade ur brakes I suggest a LS1 front brake swap. I had Drilled and slotte on my LT1 brakes for a while but just swapped to the LS style and its a night and day differnce
Colossus
09-06-2009, 05:10 PM
Yeah, going from the 94 too the 01 is amazing!
elitecamaro94
09-06-2009, 05:16 PM
is there a write up on how to do that? also where do i get the parts just go to like checker and buy ls1 car rotors?
elitecamaro94
09-06-2009, 05:17 PM
i was just lookin at the slotted ones cause im gonna be ordering the deep dish y2ks so i wanted some nice brakes to put behind them, possibly the c5 swap someday
elitecamaro94
09-06-2009, 05:20 PM
nevermind i just saw the sticky on top looks like a tough swap ill have to see if i can get time to do it plus find all the parts needed
Colossus
09-06-2009, 05:43 PM
Its really not bad at all.
elitecamaro94
09-06-2009, 06:12 PM
yeah ill probably give a buddy a call get some beer and take a day to do it. Im sure we will have no problems. thanks guys. Where can i get brembo blanks
Tbird232ci
09-09-2009, 05:59 PM
Unless you want the looks, don't both with drilled/slotted rotors. I ran them on one of my other cars, and they made no difference in braking. They just looked cool.
elitecamaro94
09-10-2009, 12:00 PM
well i was thinkin brembo blanks cause alot of people said those with a good set of pads will make a world of difference in stopping power. I did want the looks of the slotted brakes though. Ill probably just do the ls1 brakes for now then upgrade to a c5 kit when i get some spare cash to throw at it. Im trying to order a catback right now. Its time to start upgrading my car i cant stand it being stock anymore.
CALL911
09-10-2009, 02:23 PM
It really just depends on how much money you want to spend (like so many other things). Honestly cross drilled or slotted rotors aren't going to do much of anything to improve your braking. A good set of thicker/more dense rotors with a good agressive brake pad will be best for the cheepest improvement on braking performance. Also, look into getting the rotors cryogenically frozen. I did this to my rotors because my first set of cross drilled rotors did eventually start cracking. Having the rotor cryogenically frozen was pretty inexpensive, and it improves the heat disappation, along with making them stronger/less prone to warping or cracking, also increasing their lifetime.
If you have a little more money to spend, I also would agree that stepping up to an LS1 style caliper is very cheep and is much improved over stock LT1 calipers.
Past that, if you really want to improve braking, and cost doesn't matter, then you need to get some bigger (18 inch +) wheels to fit a larger aftermarket caliper system on the car. I went with the Baer Track Plus calipers, along with cross-drilled and slotted rotors (for looks). Then I topped it all off with having the rotors cryogenically frozen, and installed Hawk HP Plus pads.
The HP Plus pads were a bit over kill. They chirp everwhere and when I want to stop at higher speeds (100+MPH) they work so well I feel I am about ready to go through the windsheild, and they actually outstop my tires (the tires will start to squelch not keeping up with the brakes, but not to the point of having the ABS not keep up).
Personally, I don't think there is such a thing as too much break power. Honestly, someday I would like to upgrade my Baers to a 4 or 6 piston aftermarket caliper like Brembo. Or maybe even just getting the new Camaro 6 piston caliper brake system, and putting it on my 95 Z. Not sure on the Camaro brake system, but the Brembo equivilant (6-piston), runs a steep $3,700+. I paid just over $1,000 for my Baer system. I think the Baer 6 piston is just over $3,000. I looked into Willwood brake kits for a while since they were much cheeper, but later after researching found that a Willwood 6 piston brake system does not have the ability to stop as well as my Baer 2 piston system.
To give you an idea of the stopping force we are talking about, Baer promised me that the 4 piston system on my car would stop me from 180 MPH to 80 MPH in under 3 seconds!
Here's a couple of pics of my Baer rotors and caliper setup on my car
http://i31.tinypic.com/2qa4x8k.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/33w07bt.jpg
elitecamaro94
09-10-2009, 04:00 PM
thanks for the info, definitely alot to think about. Your car is badass by the way. where do you go to get them frozen like you were saying, ive never heard of anyone doing that
CALL911
09-10-2009, 05:20 PM
thanks for the info, definitely alot to think about. Your car is badass by the way. where do you go to get them frozen like you were saying, ive never heard of anyone doing that
Having certain car parts (like rotors, driveshafts, gears, ect.) cryogenically frozen will increase the parts strength and longevity. There are actually TONS of places to get this done. Just do a google search on it. Then just shop around. I ordered my Baer brake rotors from a well known performance shop in Louisiana, and had them shipped to a place in Pennsylvania to have them frozen, then had them shipped to me when I was stationed in New Jersey. The place I went to didn't charge much, and the more you had, the cheeper it got.
For brake rotors (especially if you want "bling bling" cross drilled rotors that are more suseptable to stress cracks), its almost a must. But its a great idea just for any rotor you get for that matter.
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