well...its gone.

[lt1noob]

yes, bad news. my car is gone. ill still be sticking around this forum because i love the ltx community. we had my car running but it wouldnt idle, and we found more problems and i just ran out of patience and funds to keep the project going. ive thrown thousands upon thousands into the car since i got it...which was almost 2 years ago. about 80% of this time it was in the garage getting something stupid fixed. i loved this car with a passion and devoted any possible funds and time i could into it but i had to let it go. now to the very sad part, i just couldnt stand to know someone else would own or drive my car and with my car being such a damn lemon i couldnt put anyone else through the bullshit soo....my sister was looking at newer mazdas and we ended up trading it in for cash for clunkers. yes i know alot of you will be pissed but i was sad enough to see it go in the first place so dont give me too much shit. ive got alot of time and money into the car and havent gotten much out of it although i do have alot of badass memorys with that car. i do hope to pick up maybe a 2nd gen camaro in a few years once ive settled down somewhere and have a solid job and plan on doing an lt1 swap so im not out of the scene completely im just taking a break and trying to recover a little bit of the money ive blown on the car. just thought id let you guys know, and i know ill regret it but it had to be done sooner or later...for the amount i put into the car i could have 4 of them sitting in my garage. Id just like to thank all of you guys, it was definately a learning experience. Theres alot of things i know now that i would have never known how to do, or know about if it wasnt for you people on sites like this. The knowledge i got from people on here made the project worth it in the end, but its still sad to see it go.

P.S. check out my for sale thread...i have some parts laying around that im getting sick of looking at because they only remind me of the car so if someones looking for some parts please help me get rid of this stuff, sorry if this is against forum rules since its not in the classifieds, i just want this stuff gone because its incredibly depressing. :frustrated:

[popo8]

Wow man, that sux. Is it the car in your sig/pic that you got rid of?

[Huff035]

Sorry for your loss. RIP.. :(

[popo8]

Did they have to DESTROY it for the program (sach for clunkers)?

[BLOWNDFIZ]

Did they have to DESTROY it for the program (sach for clunkers)?

They put a product called "Engine Killer" in the crankcase and run the car until the motor seizes. It's a shame really. They can eventually part out the remainder of the car but the motor must be deemed inopereable and not repairable for the gov't to pay the deapership their $4500.

I honestly can't believe someone from an enthusuiast site would do that to their car. Nothing against the OP but I have a hard time believing it.

RIP LT1!!!

[Huff035]

I honestly can't believe someone from an enthusuiast site would do that to their car. Nothing against the OP but I have a hard time believing it.

RIP LT1!!!

+1

[CamaroGirl]

sorry to hear that...rip...

[popo8]

They put a product called "Engine Killer" in the crankcase and run the car until the motor seizes. It's a shame really. They can eventually part out the remainder of the car but the motor must be deemed inopereable and not repairable for the gov't to pay the deapership their $4500.

I honestly can't believe someone from an enthusuiast site would do that to their car. Nothing against the OP but I have a hard time believing it.

RIP LT1!!!


I FEEL SAD INSIDE...:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:: cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[Fastbird]

You're kidding right??? I couldn't imagine anyone that considers themselves a fan of a car, and someone who puts cash and effort into their car, would just C4C the car like that. No way.

[hempkat94z]

You're kidding right??? I couldn't imagine anyone that considers themselves a fan of a car, and someone who puts cash and effort into their car, would just C4C the car like that. No way.

+1 I ain't buying it.

[MeanGreen94Z]

can i come cunt punt you?

[proace4]

damnit... this time you cant blame it on the opti! RIP LT1

[bricez28]

can i come cunt punt you?


i too, feel a swift cunt punt is in order

[popo8]

C'mon NOOB, post somethiing!!!!

[Chris]

How can you guys give him crap for it? Its proly more than he was going to get for the car. Shit I almost traded mine in and my suv for something newer. Granted I was going to strip the car before I brought it in and I mean strip it. But I decided with school I didnt need a car payment and then I lost my financial aid. Shit My car is for sale for 5000 right now because that is how much I feel it is worth and people are trying to trade me straight up cars worth 1-2k .

So Lt1Noob I feel your loss but I congratulate you on taking advantage of something government attempted to do for us even though I dont agree with the whole program.

[popo8]

How can you guys give him crap for it? Its proly more than he was going to get for the car. Shit I almost traded mine in and my suv for something newer. Granted I was going to strip the car before I brought it in and I mean strip it. But I decided with school I didnt need a car payment and then I lost my financial aid. Shit My car is for sale for 5000 right now because that is how much I feel it is worth and people are trying to trade me straight up cars worth 1-2k .

So Lt1Noob I feel your loss but I congratulate you on taking advantage of something government attempted to do for us even though I dont agree with the whole program.


If I read it correctly, HE didnt even get the advantage of the C4C... his SISTER did. 2nd of all, you say that he got more than he wouldve gotten if he sold it out right... but lets be honest... New cars are marked up and there is plenty of rom to work even without the C4C rebate, so they prob couda come close without the Bird...

[Chris]

Thats why he should have negotiated and then sayed That price sounds good. I have a c4c to use as well Seriously I have been trying to sell my car for idk how long at 6500 nuttin. went down to 5500 a few bits. Now I have it at 5k nuttin. Dont know man.

[popo8]

I bet he coulda put that car up for sale and sold it for like 3g EASY, then his sis coulda still gone and gotten the MAZDA negotiated down 3 or 4 g with factor rebates and dealer incentives ALONE, then if he was still feeling so giving she woulda had 6 or 7 g down.

Personally I dont care... but its sad to see on an enthusiast board. We are all here, and brought together for a love of LTX powered vehicles.... They are not just "cars" to us, so I think everyone feels a loss when one gets DESTROYED.

Or am I just speaking for myself????

[Chris]

I agree with you , Just I think that it was right what he did considering how much the cars go for. I know I love my car but personally if I got my money from it I could care less what happened to it. Though I know Id like to be the person who killed the motor and not the dealer ship because that thing would have gotten a hell of burnout with that stuff in the motor

[popo8]

I agree if my car had to be destroyed... I would like to be the one to do it.... but I would not let it get destroyed... not by my chosing at least.

[Camaro_94]

I honestly can't believe someone from an enthusuiast site would do that to their car. Nothing against the OP but I have a hard time believing it.

RIP LT1!!!


You're kidding right??? I couldn't imagine anyone that considers themselves a fan of a car, and someone who puts cash and effort into their car, would just C4C the car like that. No way.

+1

WHY! You dont want to see anyone else enjoy it, but then again you dont mind watching it be destroyed and then ripped apart?

I hated seeing my Formula go, but I knew someone else would have it and hopefully have as much fun as I did with it.

RIP firebird...

[Pony_Killer]

should have parted it out..would have made more money then u got and that lt1 would have lived on for somebody else...

[MeanGreen94Z]

if i were to wreck my car and it was totaled beyond repair i would buy it back, get all the parts i could salvage off of it and burry it in the woods... no one will EVER own my car... EVER! im the second and LAST owner, hell i would have burried mine in a container and collected insurance off of it being stolen before i C4Cd it sorry about not giving you respect but i lost all the respect when i saw C4C, i hate that program!

[hempkat94z]

It has nothing to do with how much he got for it or even who he gave the money too. Its all about what they are doing to them!!!! Get on youtube and watch some of the videos. It horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[popo8]

It has nothing to do with how much he got for it or even who he gave the money too. Its all about what they are doing to them!!!! Get on youtube and watch some of the videos. It horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just think... someone is doing this to your old bird...
YouTube - Caprice engine meltdown

[Tarheel'Z']

when its all said and done i think it sucks that you did that but it was your decision and you have to live with it,,,but damn man it wasnt even for YOU????? makes me glad im an only child..just hard to swallow that a "FOUNDING MEMBER" of a site dedicated to ltx cars could ever possibly do such a thing,,,easier to swallow if you did it to buy a 5th gen or something but a mazda for your sister???

[lt1noob]

well, thanks for not exactly making me feel any better about this shit. the car was a lemon, and shit constantly was going wrong with it. i loved the car but its put me through hell and then some and i didnt want it to do the same to the next owner. and ive tried selling the car before aswell with no luck, people either dont even offer or when they do they back out or never call back. i did what i had to do and an ltx is in the future i havent given up on f bodys but this car had to go. ill have a project again in the future but itll have to wait. i guess i cant really blame you guys for being pissed but im sure some of you do see why i did it. and yes, that was my baby in my sig.

[popo8]

I dont know that people are MAD at you.... just think that as enthusiasts... your LTX represents everyones LTX

[sinSStr]

I don't blame him. He did what he felt he had to do.

[Tarheel'Z']

NOOB i dont blame you nor am i mad or anything like that,,my initial post^^ was just my frustration for your situation coming out,,nothing personal,,lord knows ive been in tough situations that required near impossibly decisions to be made which im sure from the outside looking in,,looked like the wrong decision.but when the day is over your the one living with that decision and if you think it was the best for you then so be it..of course you know a thread like this on a site like this is gonna get responses such as mine and others that probably dont make you feel any better about it.but dont hold it against us,,we still love ya,,just a tough deal all around

[lt1noob]

thanks, as you can imagine it wasnt a 10 second decision, it took alot of thinking. i wanted to sell it a few times and always ended up saying damnit i love this car too much and ive got so much money into it. and then more things would break and so on and so forth. its not that i didnt want to see someone else enjoying it, it was the simple fact i rarely got to enjoy it because it was down all the time and i didnt want to see anyone else go through this, especially with these cars they're to be driven and enjoyed. but its kind of hard to enjoy the car when it doesnt run or its constantly in the garage etc. like i said, i love f bodys, and the ltx community and im planning either another 4th gen, or a 2nd gen with an ltx swap sometime in a few years. i dont blame you guys for being frustrated but i just want you guys to realize why i did it aswell. ill still be around, and hopefully ill get to attend the ltx shootout this year (even without an ltx...) because ive still wanted to attend one since i got into ltx's. and in a few years i should have a pretty sweet project on the way. ultime plan is a 2nd gen camaro with an ltx and t-56. cam, mild head porting, 12 bolt, and full suspension. nothing crazy but it will get done its just a matter of when. ill miss my car dearly but like i said, sitting down and thinking it all through it really was the best option wether or not people agree with me.

[gregrob]

What a retard

[lt1noob]

What a retard

keep it to yourself.:disagree:

[IronOutlaw]

did you take all the good parts off first? I woulda put some spare tires on it, Ripped off the exhaust and ripped out the interior.

[bluebird94]

Man.. I didn't think I could feel this much pain and sadness for another's car -- but that just hurts. So sorry for your loss. I feel like I had to shoot my own horse cause of a broken leg. I can't imagine how you feel.

It'll be okay though, you put her out of her misery. But I don't agree with having strangers do the deed.. especially for a Mazda.

[Phstratton]

It's an older car dude, it's gonna have problems. It's all about loving it enough to deal with the problems, just like a woman. I honestly don't feel like you loved it as much as you say you did.

[lt1noob]

It's an older car dude, it's gonna have problems. It's all about loving it enough to deal with the problems, just like a woman. I honestly don't feel like you loved it as much as you say you did.

ive had the car since last spring, and i have well over 12 grand into the car FIXING shit alone. youd be surprised how much i loved the car but theres a point you come to when you run out of money, im not going to go thousands into debt for the car and not get enjoyment out of it. im sorry, but at that point im done.

[bricez28]

jeez that caprice video accually made me a little sad. now i know how those stupid peta people feel.

[popo8]

jeez that caprice video accually made me a little sad. now i know how those stupid peta people feel.


Right!!!! maybe you can make some shirts that have a person walking a small F-body on a leash, with a JUST SAY NO TO C4C sign...:metal:

[Chris]

Right!!!! maybe you can make some shirts that have a person walking a small F-body on a leash, with a JUST SAY NO TO C4C sign...:metal:


Well c4c is over now lol:secret:

[Tarheel'Z']

what could possible cost 12 grand to fix??and it still didnt work??im missing something im sure ,,right??

[popo8]

what could possible cost 12 grand to fix??and it still didnt work??im missing something im sure ,,right??


Well i did a search of posts started by him and Im having a hard time piecing 12g worth of fixes....

And 12g worth of fixes to a car that in perfect condition is worth 5g..... that is even more reason to KEEP IT.

[Counted Out]

I'm confused here, but I also understand why you did it. You have to realize your car is atleast 12 years old now, and the fact it's a performance car that is driven hard. 12 year old, stock parts are going to break. I understand your frustration though, as both the Camaro's I have owned have sat longer than they have ran.

I REALLY, REALLY hope you stripped the car completely before you took it in. I know that around here it just has to go forward, backwards and stop. Which means you could have completely pulled the interior and ALOT of other stuff and made some cash off of those parts too.

Either way, it sucks you did that and I would never do that. Chances are, you did get more than the car is worth though. I hope your sister gave you te $3,500 she saved though..

[lt1noob]

i did get my money out of it, and we actually got 4k for it because the dealership had something going we got an extra 500$ it wasnt exactly a charity thing, and yes i have quite a bit from the car, i didnt let them have everything i got what i could off of it.. and there are other things other than just my posts. alot of that is labor. anyways, for example the first day i had it, took it out and 10 minutes later had coolant everywhere, worse things can happen but parts and labor along with other small things like oil change and whatever else resulted in over a grand. if youd like me to snap a pic of the receipt i beleive i still have it, trust me, enough crap went wrong. im sorry i didnt sell it instead but like i stated i tried a few times and we all know how the economy is even with a car like that. i had like no offers and the people who did backed out or never got back to me. also alot of my posts are on ls1tech if you want to check those out. it could be a bit over 11, or 12 grand, its over 10 i know that for sure that was a guesstimate. there was enough i know that. i would have loved to keep it but i have to keep moving on with school and im also planning to ask my current girlfriend to marry me sometime in spring if all goes as planned. if i had kept going i would be in debt.

[FORMULA94]

R.I.P FIREBIRD, please be a one with the universe, and if alll possible somehow i hope your parts find there way to another f body.

tough call for you man, im sorry. sometimes being practical really freaking sucks big time!

[lt1noob]

R.I.P FIREBIRD, please be a one with the universe, and if alll possible somehow i hope your parts find there way to another f body.

tough call for you man, im sorry. sometimes being practical really freaking sucks big time!

yeah...was very similar to yours. same color, formula and only a year difference.

[popo8]

Mod Edited


Damn it.... I want to know what was outta line. (just my curiosity)

[Huff035]

Damn it.... I want to know what was outta line. (just my curiosity)

I was wondering the exact same thing. lol. I have never seen them edit on here. (that i noticed anyways) so its killing me. lol

[Z28pr0jekt]

I probably should have just deleted it altogether, which I will do now. Prejudicial terms and bashing aren't allowed here so yea.

[Pony_Killer]

Damn it.... I want to know what was outta line. (just my curiosity)

If u get the email alerts from new post it says it on there.

[popo8]

If u get the email alerts from new post it says it on there.


And I hadnt subscribd to this one..... doh!

[gregrob]

I indicated that he was still a homosexual, regardless of all his reasons for doing cfc.

I apologize (not that I said it because its true) but that I said it in the open forums in a bashing manner.

I was kinda out of it last night...

Sorry mods

[lt1noob]

I indicated that he was still a homosexual, regardless of all his reasons for doing cfc.

I apologize (not that I said it because its true) but that I said it in the open forums in a bashing manner.

I was kinda out of it last night...

Sorry mods

fyi i am far from a homosexual, thanks.

[popo8]

fyi i am far from a homosexual, thanks.


Just curious.... did your sis give you anything for sacrificing your F-body?

[Tarheel'Z']

weekend pass with the mazda maybe??

[Cyanydem28]

yes, bad news. my car is gone. ill still be sticking around this forum because i love the ltx community. we had my car running but it wouldnt idle, and we found more problems and i just ran out of patience and funds to keep the project going. ive thrown thousands upon thousands into the car since i got it...which was almost 2 years ago. about 80% of this time it was in the garage getting something stupid fixed. i loved this car with a passion and devoted any possible funds and time i could into it but i had to let it go. now to the very sad part, i just couldnt stand to know someone else would own or drive my car and with my car being such a damn lemon i couldnt put anyone else through the bullshit soo....my sister was looking at newer mazdas and we ended up trading it in for cash for clunkers. yes i know alot of you will be pissed but i was sad enough to see it go in the first place so dont give me too much shit. ive got alot of time and money into the car and havent gotten much out of it although i do have alot of badass memorys with that car. i do hope to pick up maybe a 2nd gen camaro in a few years once ive settled down somewhere and have a solid job and plan on doing an lt1 swap so im not out of the scene completely im just taking a break and trying to recover a little bit of the money ive blown on the car. just thought id let you guys know, and i know ill regret it but it had to be done sooner or later...for the amount i put into the car i could have 4 of them sitting in my garage. Id just like to thank all of you guys, it was definately a learning experience. Theres alot of things i know now that i would have never known how to do, or know about if it wasnt for you people on sites like this. The knowledge i got from people on here made the project worth it in the end, but its still sad to see it go.

P.S. check out my for sale thread...i have some parts laying around that im getting sick of looking at because they only remind me of the car so if someones looking for some parts please help me get rid of this stuff, sorry if this is against forum rules since its not in the classifieds, i just want this stuff gone because its incredibly depressing. :frustrated:

Ah bummer bro, now its time to gtf off the forum :D





























Just playin nukka

[lt1noob]

yes i got the money she saved on her car for it. it was hard enough letting the car as it was im not going to let it go for free.

[popo8]

So how much did you walk away with if you dont mind me asking...?

[meissen]

Wow... sending a rare car to the crusher. Sad.... very sad...

[lt1noob]

4K

[popo8]

4K


Ok, as long as you stripped every bit of that car.... dats coolllll.

[lt1noob]

well, when we sent it away they got it with like no exhaust except the headers, some steelies off of a blazer... no water pump only, no intake, half the seats etc. so yeah its mor ethan i would have gotten outright if someone actually did show some interest which no one really did. for what they got for 4k i came out a little better than they did. given there were a few things on the car worth something like the headers yet and the rear end and a few suspension things that just didnt pay to take the time to switch back.

[knight367]

Sad...

[1badz]

I'm about to vomit..

[popo8]

and this thread is BACK.... hahahahaha

[njrextreme]

What junk yard did the dealer send the car?

[jaysz2893]

and this thread is BACK.... hahahahaha
Proablly due to this thread over at LS1tech:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/1188443-cash-clunkers-my-ass.html

[popo8]

wow, I think they were rougher on THAT site....

[jaysz2893]

wow, I think they were rougher on THAT site....


Alot of these over there:


http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/a%20InternetToughGuy.jpg

Hence LTXtech was born...

[popo8]

Alot of these over there:


http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/a%20InternetToughGuy.jpg

Hence LTXtech was born...


hahahahahahahahahaha:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Camaro_94]

Not this thread again!!! :disagree:

[z28 f1]

Hey:

Right off the C4C web page, the Salvage yard have 180 days to dispose/crush the engine and cab/car with vin, and any all parts left of the car. The salvage yard can however sell all parts off the car except the engine and cab. Not the dealer, the dealer has to sell the C4C to a preselected salvage yard for a set price. Only the salvage yard can part out the vehicle under the terms listed above. The dealer would be subject to a fed crime if they sold parts the salvage yard can sell at fair mkt value whatever they can as long as its not the engine or VIN # parts of the cab. The cab may never be driven on the road legally again, or motor used to power another car, that is why they have to certify that the motor is destroyed at the dealership. The dealership make no money on the car, and only get paid for the authorized amount given to the trade and preset salvage price.

I hope this clears up some of the things on this thread that are being presented as fact when they are not. This was not a well thought out program, as it was only supposed to help American manufactured automakers in its 1st proposal, and only get heavy polluting, excessive low mileage vehicles off the road. not really what it ended up doing was it?

Dub:secret:

When In Doubt Do Without

[gregrob]

Alot of these over there:


http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/a%20InternetToughGuy.jpg

Hence LTXtech was born...


I am one of those, beezotch.

[hempkat94z]

I am one of those, beezotch.

I have had my car for sale for atleast 3 months and nobody could come up with the money.
http://ltxtech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7113
Now I would have never put my car through the cash for clunkers BS but the more I have thought about it I can't blame him. The value of the LT1 cars are going down hill fast when you can buy a decent LS1 car for $5000. Would anyone on here given him the $4000+financing for another car? LT1Noob made this decision to not sell it so he wouldn't sell his lemon to someone else and they end up pouring in more money and possibly never get it right. I know if I would have bought the car it would have pissed me off but first off I wouldn't have even paid $4000 for a car that wouldn't even idle!

[warnerTA]

I have had my car for sale for atleast 3 months and nobody could come up with the money.
http://ltxtech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7113
Now I would have never put my car through the cash for clunkers BS but the more I have thought about it I can't blame him. The value of the LT1 cars are going down hill fast when you can buy a decent LS1 car for $5000. Would anyone on here given him the $4000+financing for another car? LT1Noob made this decision to not sell it so he wouldn't sell his lemon to someone else and they end up pouring in more money and possibly never get it right. I know if I would have bought the car it would have pissed me off but first off I wouldn't have even paid $4000 for a car that wouldn't even idle!

im with you here.. lt1noob i hear ya. i could not stand to see someone beat on the car i have worked hard on. i hate the kids you see going to school driving 30,000 dollar cars and beating the piss outa it... if i seen someone do that to my car it would be too much. thats y im not sellin it.. :) but i do recall alot of things going wrong with his car.. sorry man

[lt1noob]

thank you. and it sucks because im already getting the itch for another lt1...........if this is the case im going to find one, heads, cam, that i will not have to touch and preferably drive before hand. My old one was from maryland and i took the chance of getting it off ebay....yeah. but im sure with all the pissed off people here no one will let me get another lt. Thing is im joining the coast guard once i figure some shit out with a recruiter and once im in before i get sent out for basic/stationed somewhere id like to take out a loan for another toy and first thing that came to mind was an lt1......

[popo8]

thank you. and it sucks because im already getting the itch for another lt1...........if this is the case im going to find one, heads, cam, that i will not have to touch and preferably drive before hand. My old one was from maryland and i took the chance of getting it off ebay....yeah. but im sure with all the pissed off people here no one will let me get another lt. Thing is im joining the coast guard once i figure some shit out with a recruiter and once im in before i get sent out for basic/stationed somewhere id like to take out a loan for another toy and first thing that came to mind was an lt1......


With all the problems you had with the car... If I were you.... I woulda taken that same loan out.... and put a completly difrent motor, ecu etc in the old car.... boom, prob solved....and now it would be realy fast....

[95formula383lt1]

i agree^ sucks u killed it though...oo well theres more out there i guess.

[Huff035]

wow popo, your rough on him... He did what he felt he needed to do. Just like stuff we do to our car appearance wise. Some people like them some hate them, but in the end its our car and we do what we want with it.

And personally I would NEVER take out a loan to build a motor. If i were going to take out a loan it would be to get something I could daily drive and then save for the motor. Loans for motors isnt a wise choice IMO.

[5POINT7]

Loans for motors isnt a wise choice IMO.
just curious as to why?

[popo8]

wow popo, your rough on him... He did what he felt he needed to do. Just like stuff we do to our car appearance wise. Some people like them some hate them, but in the end its our car and we do what we want with it.

And personally I would NEVER take out a loan to build a motor. If i were going to take out a loan it would be to get something I could daily drive and then save for the motor. Loans for motors isnt a wise choice IMO.


Shit thats not HARD ON HIM at all... he stated that the car was a lemon.... someone else wrote that it wouldnt idle.... he stated he would take out a loan to buy a head/cam car to drive.... I say, why take out a loan to buy a whole nother car, then (in the end we know its true) spend even more money customizing it.... THe bird was nice.... it was hooked up.... if a loan was his only means, then do it to correct the issue....

Hell I took out a loan to build my car.... but then again, I buy my cars out right so whats the difference, a car payments a car payment....