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BIGT94z
05-24-2009, 03:14 PM
ls6 intake, ls1 cam, bolt on's, 4:10's, a4 ls1 vs my 12.20 bolt on lt1 on the streeetttzzzzzz. we did 2 15ish rolls each race he has a lil under 2 ish on me. my 1st-2nd its a good race then the ls juan top end takes over :frustrated: we did to digs and it has about the same results. i hooked good but bogged bad bc i launched so low bc i didnt think i would hook :face_shocked:. good times fo sho!
96lt1m6
05-24-2009, 04:47 PM
nice runs bro.....
all the Ls needs is a 3600-4400 and its over
BIGT94z
05-24-2009, 07:28 PM
Its has a 3600 stall lol
96lt1m6
05-24-2009, 07:52 PM
oh, it was not mentioned above.
BIGT94z
05-24-2009, 07:54 PM
Forgot lol it doesn't really help him on the street
96lt1m6
05-24-2009, 08:14 PM
LOL especially if he is not on a real tire!
out here in vegas there has been a debate about Lt1 and Ls1 funny part is i am right there mod for mod.
BIGT94z
05-24-2009, 08:26 PM
Forgot lol it doesn't really help him on the street
Itsonlyanlt1
06-13-2009, 04:24 PM
Way to hang in there man.
YZF
06-15-2009, 12:38 PM
Thats where you got your tan! You and Haffa went to Mexicoooooooooo!!!
mpe331lx
06-15-2009, 05:31 PM
Good runs!
joelster
06-16-2009, 06:08 AM
My friend has a cam-only LS1 that runs 11.18's at 122mph. Wait til he gets his new clutch, and can really launch it hard.
mpe331lx
06-16-2009, 11:16 AM
My friend has a cam-only LS1 that runs 11.18's at 122mph. Wait til he gets his new clutch, and can really launch it hard.


There are some really impressive cam only ls1s', just as there are some very poor running H/C ls1s that are lucky to break 11:laugh:

I'ts all about geeting everything to work together and putting the power down efficiently:metal:
LT1RUNNER
06-17-2009, 01:50 PM
A cam only LS1 running 11's? Has to be more than that to get him into 11's!
YZF
06-17-2009, 03:41 PM
A cam only LS1 running 11's? Has to be more than that to get him into 11's!


I hope you're joking sir.

Cam only cars have been 10.20/30/40/50/60/70/80/90's blah blah.

It doesnt take much.
LT1RUNNER
06-17-2009, 04:19 PM
No seriously. I know they take mods better than the LT but 11's with a cam only swap? Wow. Well I've been wrong before. Then why does it take so much for us LT guys just to get into the 12's?


Wait! Don't answer that. :embarassed:
mpe331lx
06-17-2009, 04:40 PM
No seriously. I know they take mods better than the LT but 11's with a cam only swap? Wow. Well I've been wrong before. Then why does it take so much for us LT guys just to get into the 12's?


Wait! Don't answer that. :embarassed:

There definately are cam only ls1s in the 10s:
" CAM ONLY" list:
LS1 / LS6 engines

Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Year & Type of car, Transmission, Converter or Clutch, Gear Ratio, Cam (with specs if not a widely known one), DA, Race Weight, Date

F-body

1. Smokin01ta 10.219 @ 132.29 (1.38), 01 T/A, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010 lbs, 3/06
2. LS1Joe 10.232@132.04 (1.39), 02z28, M6, Spec4, 4.71, 250, -1100, 3150, 03/06
3. 01-Z 10.295 @ 128.48 (1.38), 01 Z, TH400, 5500, 4.57, G5X4, -110, 2880, 4/05
4. Magnus 10.295 @ 128.48 (1.36), 97 Bird, T350, 5500, 4.10, G5X4, 200, 2820, 4/05
5. Dragaholic 10.340 @ 127.46 (1.36), 00 SS, 350, 5500, 4.56, TRex, -700, 2850, 11/05
6. SSmokedLS1 10.48 @ 130.29 (1.45), 01 T/A, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, 800, 3035, 3/07
7. Trevor @ TSP 10.510 @ 125.80 (1.43), 98 Z, 4L60E, 4500, 4.56, MS3, -1000, 3175, 2/05
8. Project_SS 10.561 @ 126.74 (1.44), 98 SS, 4L60E, 4400, 3.73, Vind, 2400, 2840, 7/07
9. DMcRacer 10.738 @ 125.06 (1.46), 02 SS, 4L60E, 4600, 3.42, AMS, -1080, 3375, 1/05
10. SSPerformance 10.766 @ 124.22, 1.438, 94 Z, LS1, TH350, 4400, 4.33, TRex, -1000, 3300, 12/08
11. Jason99ta 10.783 @ 128.27 (1.56), 99 T/A, M6, RAM, 4.56, TRex, 1300, 3253, 06/04
12. Minshall 10.81 @ 123 (1.42), 02 Z, 4L60E, 5000, 4.10, G5X4, +1700, 3125, 04/22
13. Chrs1313 10.81 @ 122.67 (1.386), 02 Z, SS4000, 230/230, 3.23, -400, 3275, 10/08
14. GrannySShifting 10.821 @ 126.9 (1.47), 97 SS, M6, Tex, 4.56, PSI 233/238, -1000+, 3458, 11/08
15. PewterZ28 10.857 @ 123.53 (1.46), 02 Z, TH350, 4900, 4.10, G5X4, 46, 3310, 10/06
16. Coach02A3Z/28 10.917 @ 122.97 (1.47), 02 Z, TH350, TK, 5.13, TRex, 2751, 3200, 06/04
17. Camscam02 10.98 @ 121.98 (1.47), 02 SS, 4L60E, 4400, 4.10, MS3, 290, 3370, 11/07
18. Demonicbird00 10.99 @ 126.93 (1.49), 00 T/A, M6, Lingenfelter, 4.10, 245, -1082, 3260, 4/07
19. Diabloformula 11.709 @ 119.19 (1.634), 98 Formula, M6, LS7, 4.11, Lunati VooDoo 222/228MS3, DA unknown, 3580, 3/09

Corvette

1. Roger White 10.869 @ 123.04 (1.46), 02 C5, 4l60e, 4400, 3.90, M2,-1000,3350, 11/03
2. Redgar 10.968 @ 124.66 (1.50), 99 C5, 4l60e, 5000, 3.90, VD, -800, 3400, 11/05
3. Robz 10.968@124.32 (1.46), 03 Z06, M6, Cartek, 3.90, 2x, -1000, 3250, 11/03
4. blk04z 11.167 @ 123.56 (1.59), 04 Z06, M6, RPS, 3.42, TR230/236, -800, 3186, 11/07
5. BLU-BY-U 11.281 @ 121.20 (1.51), 02 Z06, M6, clutch, 3.90, RPM, -670, 3220, 1/05
6. MadDawg 11.516 @ 117.40 (1.64), 01 C5, 4l60e, 3200, 3.15, Stealth2, -661, 3310, 2/05


GTO

1. Joeyelbows 12.186 @ 1114.35 (1.78), 04 GTO, M6, LS7, 3.46, 207/220, DA unknown, 3500 lbs, 12/08



If that's not enough, there are STOCK LONGBLOCK cars in the 10s!:metal:

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F-Body
Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Race Weight, Date

RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400, ATI4600, 4.56, 3060, 03/08
Project_SS ----- 10.866 @ 122.14 (1.45), 98 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 2840, 03/07
Magnus --------- 10.987 @ 119.31 (1.42), 97 Firebird A4, YPT4400, 4.10, 2920, 12/04
Promod1955 ----- 11.030 @ 124.18 (1.45), 00 Camaro SS A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3085, 04/09
Skelton -------- 11.088 @ 119.10 (1.44), 01 Formula A3, CN4800, 4.10, 3150, 02/09
1BAD98LS1 ------ 11.089 @ 120.62 (1.47), 98 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.89, 3070, 11/07
Hawkn01 -------- 11.256 @ 118.48 (1.52), 01 Firehawk A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3086, 03/04
SilentbutViolent 11.302 @ 117.84 (1.52), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.73, 3128, 11/04
V6 Bird -------- 11.322 @ 118.67 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3170, 11/02
Matt D --------- 11.421 @ 116.24 (1.47), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3100, 11/07
ATwelveSec02Z28 11.424 @ 119.26 (1.53), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, RAM, 4.56, 3300, 12/06
BAIN ----------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
Lane ----------- 11.458 @ 117.33 (1.53), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4200, 3.42, 3350, 11/02
11SECSS -------- 11.458 @ 116.94 (1.50), 01 Camaro SS A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3200, 04/02
DMcRacer ------- 11.468 @ 116.88 (1.56), 02 Camaro SS A4, PY3800E, 3:42, 3400, 11/03
MDBlackZ28 ----- 11.494 @ 115.85 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 4.10, 3150, 07/05
Black Sunshine - 11.496 @ 116.24 (1.52), 01 Camaro SS A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3225, 10/01
NSSANE02 ------- 11.514 @ 119.50 (1.64), 02 Camaro SS M6, TexOZ700,4.11, 3270, 03/09
Birdman -------- 11.519 @ 115.60 (1.55), 98 TransAmWS6 A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3180, 05/02
WILWAXU -------- 11.544 @ 115.36 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4200, 3.73, 3320, 01/04
01-Z ----------- 11.549 @ 117.82 (1.60), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Mcleod, 4.30, 3090, 09/02
Lynda ---------- 11.550 @ 115.36 (1.51), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/03
chrs1313 ------- 11.558 @ 116.24 (1.54), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS3600, 3.23, 3365, 11/07
Raughammer ----- 11.562 @ 115.25 (1.50), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4500, 3.73, 3175, 01/01
2002Z ---------- 11.564 @ 115.75 (1.52), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.73, 3450, 10/02
Colonel -------- 11.565 @ 115.54 (1.51), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.89, 3285, 10/00
RAGEman -------- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
Dangerous SS --- 11.576 @ 116.52 (1.55), 02 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 01/04
Shon Herron ---- 11.592 @ 113.00 (1.50), 97 Z28 LS1swap A4, PT4400, 4.10, 3110, 11/08
MikeHoffpauir -- 11.593 @ 116.00 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/01
JFM ------------ 11.623 @ 115.44 (1.57), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3350, 01/02
DOUBT IT ------- 11.623 @ 114.94 (1.57), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 3.73, 3365, 11/08
mmiller -------- 11.664 @ 114.55 (1.53), 01 Camaro SS A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3312, 02/02
JS12 ----------- 11.672 @ 119.23 (1.72), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, Spec S4, 3.73, 3435, 11/02
LARRY01Z28 ----- 11.674 @ 118.20 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Star, 3.73, 3265, 10/02
JASON ---------- 11.682 @ 116.37 (1.62), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YSY3500, 3.42, 3340, 01/03
FASTR A4 ------- 11.694 @ 114.57 (1.56), 00 Formula A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3450, 04/03
Magnet --------- 11.699 @ 115.38 (1.59), 02 Camaro SS A4, YSS3600, 3.23, 3400, 02/09
LS1INSIDE ------ 11.700 @ 114.93 (1.55), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3350, 02/06
AliWantsNss ---- 11.702 @ 116.58 (1.56), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, CARTEK, 4.11, 3425, 11/05
MikeG ---------- 11.702 @ 115.66 (1.63), 01 Camaro SS A4, YPT4000, 3.23, 3420, 01/09
Kent1 ---------- 11.704 @ 115.38 (1.51), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4200, 4.10, 3400, 03/07
1999TransamWs6 - 11.715 @ 115.93 (1.73), 99 Trans am A3, PTC4000, 3.23, 3600, 11/05
JonCR96Z ------- 11.715 @ 113.39 (1.56), 01 Trans-Am A4, YPT4000, 3.23, 3480, 03/09
XtremeLS1Z28 --- 11.719 @ 115.07 (1.64), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI3500, 3.73, 3260, 03/06
2Quick4U ------- 11.721 @ 115.19 (1.58), 00 Trans-Am A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3500, 10/01
MADCOW --------- 11.730 @ 115.80 (1.57), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3300, 03/04
black02-z28 ---- 11.731 @ 113.81 (1.50), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS4200, 3.73, 3600, 12/04
z28kid98 ------- 11.740 @ 113.55 (1.56), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3250, 10/02
Durien --------- 11.747 @ 117.59 (1.60), 99 Camaro SS M6, Cartek, 4.11, 3487, 02/04
*Bolt on's ONLY. Stock internals motor, intake to oil pan, stock long block (as it came from GM). LS6/LSx style intake swaps allowed.
BIGT94z
06-17-2009, 04:40 PM
Cam only and full bolt on ls1 is easy high and 11 and lower. Are u living under a rock lol jk jk
YZF
06-17-2009, 04:42 PM
No seriously. I know they take mods better than the LT but 11's with a cam only swap? Wow. Well I've been wrong before. Then why does it take so much for us LT guys just to get into the 12's?


Wait! Don't answer that. :embarassed:

11's is nothing for an LS1 car. With just a cam swap/bolt ons they can trap 120-124. Theres a local car here that I've seen click off a 10.81 at 123 with a cam swap, 9" rear end, tune, stage 5 built 4L60E and some 28" radials and the usual bolt-ons.

Your average cam swap/bolt on LT car should be a good second slower. But, who cares because our torque curve pwns that of an LS1.
MeanGreen94Z
06-17-2009, 05:20 PM
my LS vs Shane's LT= the reason for his sig ;) j/k man

that list and my mods to my old LT are the reasons for my LS1 swap... but the LT1 torque is also the reason my old LT has YET to leave the pallet in my shop, theres future plans for that if i get a 96 SS early next year ill probably put the driveline of my car in the SS and sell the LS1 swapped car. or swap the LS to the 96 and DD it and build the hell out of my LT
LT1RUNNER
06-17-2009, 05:50 PM
See I thought we were talking about stock everything and only a cam swap. Guess I didn't read the thread right. I saw some pretty tall gears and high stalls on that list which would make sense. Bolt on's and cam swaps. Got it. :)
mpe331lx
06-17-2009, 09:10 PM
See I thought we were talking about stock everything and only a cam swap. Guess I didn't read the thread right. I saw some pretty tall gears and high stalls on that list which would make sense. Bolt on's and cam swaps. Got it. :)


"cam only" is a common term for a car that has a cam installed and still has stock heads and is stock CI. It can be full bolt ons, full supension. As long as it still has the stock heads and is still a 346, its considered cam only.

Is somone truly only did a cam swap, they should be beaten:shiner: