non-adj. or adj. panhard bar??

[5POINT7]

as the title says, I was wondering which one to go with, I know the adjustable is for lowered cars and fitting bigger tires on the car.

Im at stock height, and will be running 275/40/17's. Do I need the adjustable, it "sounds" like a good thing to have. If i go adjustable, which one should I use (single adjustable, "on car" adjustable, or double adjustable) Its manily a street car, may see the track every now and then. :confused: Same ? with LCA's I want to work the suspension, but confused on what to get.

thanks in advance

[R3DLT1]

If its just street use and it will see mininal track time i would go with the non adj. They work as good as the adj panhardbar.

You'll be fine i have the none adj panhard bar and i am running 305/35/18 on the back.

[5POINT7]

I think Im going to go with the non-adj. I didnt know if it was needed besides for lowering and running bigger tires, thanks

[McCauleyWB]

Initially, I had purchased a non-adjustable too. Now I regret it. I never even considered lowering my car until being persuaded by the stance of those here. Regardless of anything, you never know what future plans might involve. I would suggest an adjustable one of some sort.

[5POINT7]

yeah my plans might change, thats why I thought about going with an adjustable, I still might, someone told me that its a good thing to have because if your springs, etc. are bad that can mess up the "alignment" of the rear? Does anyone know it that is true?

[95maroz28]

i would opt for the adj. you never know if youll change your mind later on. I went with an adjustable panhard bar since im lowered and had 10.5s in the rear and non-adjustable lcas since i dont plan on running a taller tire than 26"

[5POINT7]

i would opt for the adj. you never know if youll change your mind later on. I went with an adjustable panhard bar since im lowered and had 10.5s in the rear and non-adjustable lcas since i dont plan on running a taller tire than 26"


What kind of adjustable would you go with, (single, double, or "on car" adjustable) Im looking at UMI parts. I read the description of each one and they all say mostly the same thing. Its going to mainly a street car with very little track use.

The LCA's I decide to go with the non-adjustable also.

[PipesTA]

I have the BMR poly/poly "on car" adj. panhard rod. I also would vote for an adj. panhard for that "just incase" factor.

[Ninety5PoloZ]

I went with the non adj and after I lowered my car I now have a hole in my tunnel from the UMI torque arm because the rear is off center by 1/2"

Rather than buying another one I thought about making mine adj but I have to see.

If you want a non adj shoot me a PM, my UMI PH bar has only got about 3500 miles on it.

[Hot94Z28]

I have a UMI on the car adjustable you wont regret getting one.

[SirSpeedAlot]

You can buy a double adjustable panhard on ebay for 89.99 plus shipping... just a heads up..

[SWells]

I built an adjustable one for an 83 Camaro a few years ago. Discovered that the rear axle was off centre by about 3/4". Nice to be able to centre it with the adj. PB. On car adj is convienent, but it is a "set it and forget it" thing. Once done you don't need to do it again unless you make further suspension mods. Go adjustable!

[popo8]

So are people saying my car's rear is no longer centered since I lowered it with the stock panhard bar.....?

[Tarheel'Z']

So are people saying my car's rear is no longer centered since I lowered it with the stock panhard bar.....?

dont worry im in the same boat

[popo8]

dont worry im in the same boat


It drives great, no "dog-leggin", but is that the theory behind what is being said???

[Tarheel'Z']

It drives great, no "dog-leggin", but is that the theory behind what is being said???
yeah mine too,,but in theory i guess when you lower it down that non-adjustable pushes the rear to the side..
i cant see any visual signs of it being off but i guess it just about has to be..its on my to do list of mods

[popo8]

yeah mine too,,but in theory i guess when you lower it down that non-adjustable pushes the rear to the side..
i cant see any visual signs of it being off but i guess it just about has to be..its on my to do list of mods


Well I guess its on mine also..... maybe thats why when I bottom out , I only bottom out on the right rear.....

[Spartan7]

With the car lowered, the panhard rod is at a smaller angle to the ground when sitting, meaning it can shift the rear to the driver side (or the body to the passenger side, whichever way you look at it). Not to mention that many F-bodies left the factory with the rear end not completely centered (they can be off by up to an inch or more in some cases). Which is why it's better to buy an adjustable. Not all rear ends are off-center, but the PHR will fix it if it is.

I've also heard that others have had issues with aftermarket torque arms hitting the driveshaft tunnel, which can only be fixed with an adjustable PHR.

I have a BMR adj. PHR on mine.

[sk8prk]

Well I guess its on mine also..... maybe thats why when I bottom out , I only bottom out on the right rear.....


Yep, I was in the same boat, if you look at where your rear tires sit in relation to the fender at the wheel well, you'll probably find it's 1/2" off or more. I was the same before I got my adj PHR, but I actually had to physically check each tire at the opening to be able to see the difference.

[jakesz28]

The "on car adjustable" or double adjustable is the same thing. I would run a double adjustable one so that you can adjust the rearend side to side if needed. If you ever step up the size of the tire it is a nice option to have.

[SWells]

Tie a nut on a piece of string (X2), tape it to the fender (same location on both sides) and measure from the string to the edge of the rim. Quick check to see if it's centered....that's what I did.

[Tarheel'Z']

i measured mine today and im 1/4 inch off,,,is that a big deal or is there a such a thing as a tolerable amount

[SWells]

My stock height 83 Camaro was out by 3/4", I built an adjustable one to straighten it out. I'm planning to build one for my 97 WS6 TA (haven't checked it yet). 1/4" doesn't sound like much and there are probably 1000's of F bodies on the road with that or worse. I've always figured that there are some things you can do and get big gains, after that it's a whole bunch of small things that add up to a noticable difference

[popo8]

i measured mine today and im 1/4 inch off,,,is that a big deal or is there a such a thing as a tolerable amount


Im scared to check mine.... 2" drop......

[5POINT7]

^^^Id check it asap.

[popo8]

^^^Id check it asap.

can I actually hurt anything...?

[SWells]

Not sure if it will damage any thing but think of this, the springs are off centre, the front and rear wheels aren't in line (different geometry turning left/right), drive shaft is slightly angled, (u joints?), probably a few other things too.

[popo8]

Not sure if it will damage any thing but think of this, the springs are off centre, the front and rear wheels aren't in line (different geometry turning left/right), drive shaft is slightly angled, (u joints?), probably a few other things too.


Damn it.... ok....

Anyone have an adjustable panhard bar for sale???:hail:

[CamaroGirl]

Not sure if it will damage any thing but think of this, the springs are off centre, the front and rear wheels aren't in line (different geometry turning left/right), drive shaft is slightly angled, (u joints?), probably a few other things too.
lca relocation brackets
i've got an adjustable...for what they're worth, and i've seen them go cheaper, just get a new one

[5POINT7]

can I actually hurt anything...?

Id imagine that it would wear certain parts eventually, your also suppose to get an alignment done after lowering, from what I read. and for the panhard bar, you can get a double adj, for 132.xx new so it would probably better just to buy new.

[popo8]

Ok.... bluebottlez is calling SPOHN for me..... ordering that today!!!

[Jperran]

You should ALWAYS buy adjustable suspension parts. You don't necessarily need the super triple adjustable chrome molly piece for a pleasure car, but it's a waste to get non-adjustable. What happens if you need to, I don't know...adjust it?

[CamaroGirl]

You should ALWAYS buy adjustable suspension parts. You don't necessarily need the super triple adjustable chrome molly piece for a pleasure car, but it's a waste to get non-adjustable. What happens if you need to, I don't know...adjust it?
i like you, you're hired

[Jperran]

Sweet, what do I get paid?

[CamaroGirl]

Sweet, what do I get paid?
haha uhh paid how?! :whistling:

[Jperran]

I'm not going near that question

[CamaroGirl]

and thats why i said it! :)

[popo8]

haha uhh paid how?! :whistling:


YOWSA!

[sanddog]

This might sound stupid but im going throught the same problem, my car is lowered and im noticing more wheel hop than usual. How did you guys measure or what did you measure to find out how much its off by? just the fender clearence?

[popo8]

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Tie a nut on a piece of string (X2), tape it to the fender (same location on both sides) and measure from the string to the edge of the rim. Quick check to see if it's centered....that's what I did. "




Sounds lke good advice for your measuring question... but your wheelhop is prob not caused by that.... when I lowered my car 2" I began to get wheel hop.... that didnt stop till I cot the relocating brackets for the lower control arms...

[Tarheel'Z']

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Tie a nut on a piece of string (X2), tape it to the fender (same location on both sides) and measure from the string to the edge of the rim. Quick check to see if it's centered....that's what I did. "




Sounds lke good advice for your measuring question... but your wheelhop is prob not caused by that.... when I lowered my car 2" I began to get wheel hop.... that didnt stop till I cot the relocating brackets for the lower control arms...


X2

[5POINT7]

^^^^is that the only way to check it, or is there a more "professional" way, not to sound mean, or is that the only way???