Front Mount Distributor , teaser pic

[roadtrip120]

I was going to show it off at the Shootout, but I couldn't wait.. I made a little progress tonight. Here is the new distributor location, maybe the first for a LT1. It should work flawlessly with my XFI.









http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Jesselbeltdriveinstall001.jpg

[uncool]

Very nice!!

If anybody gives you crap, you can say its driven off the cam just like an opti!!

[Tony Shepherd]

If anybody gives you crap, you can say its driven off the cam just like an opti!!

So is my rear mount distributer. Driven off the cam.:D

[joelster]

Where is your water pump? Are you going to run one of those inline pumps?

Looks excellent BTW!

[YZF]

That looks slick. Thats good work, I like.

[Fire67]

That definitely looks very nice. What did you have to do to get a SBC belt drive timing setup on there? Those pump delete plates are very nice looking as well. Custom made I'm sure.

[LT1RUNNER]

DAYUM! Nice!!!

[roadtrip120]

Where is your water pump? Are you going to run one of those inline pumps?

Looks excellent BTW!
Ya running a Meziere 362 radiator mounted pump



That definitely looks very nice. What did you have to do to get a SBC belt drive timing setup on there? Those pump delete plates are very nice looking as well. Custom made I'm sure.
Lt1 timing cover it taller and slightly different than a sbc cover, a few other parts had to be swapped out for a lt1. Ya, the water pump flanges were cnced then i had 12an fittings welded to them.


thanks

[Fire67]

...Lt1 timing cover it taller and slightly different than a sbc cover, a few other parts had to be swapped out for a lt1...


You make it sound like you bought off the shelf parts. I was told that the install issues were only the size and mounting of the cover. And probably push the cam dowel in some. What other parts had to be swapped out?

Either way, very nice setup man! Are providing the FAST system with a cam sync somehow, or just running bank to bank?

[roadtrip120]

You make it sound like you bought off the shelf parts. I was told that the install issues were only the size and mounting of the cover. And probably push the cam dowel in some. What other parts had to be swapped out?

Either way, very nice setup man! Are providing the FAST system with a cam sync somehow, or just running bank to bank?


Jessel already sells the parts for a lt1 cam, but not a cover for the lt1 block.

I am still messing with the cam sensor. You can take an extra msd crank trigger sensor and press the magnet into the cam gear, thus a cam signal for the XFI.

[AChotrod]

Well Im glad I dont have to race you!!!! Very trick looking set up you got there!!!!

[T/A KID]

I like the distributor idea, but man I really like the waterpump idea. Makes me think "why didn't I think of that, lol"

[Fire67]

Jessel already sells the parts for a lt1 cam, but not a cover for the lt1 block.

I am still messing with the cam sensor. You can take an extra msd crank trigger sensor and press the magnet into the cam gear, thus a cam signal for the XFI.

Ahh, I figured that since you can use SBC timing chains there wouldnt be any difference at the cam... Other than the obvious fact that the dowel pin would probably interfere.

MSD sells a "Universal" Cam Sync Kit that is basically just a sensor and magnet. You could probably get that to work just by fabbing up a bracket for the cam sensor and then attaching the magnet like you said before.

[roadtrip120]

Ahh, I figured that since you can use SBC timing chains there wouldnt be any difference at the cam... Other than the obvious fact that the dowel pin would probably interfere.

MSD sells a "Universal" Cam Sync Kit that is basically just a sensor and magnet. You could probably get that to work just by fabbing up a bracket for the cam sensor and then attaching the magnet like you said before.

The sbc timing chain you are referring too that fit lt1's are late model OE roller sbc timing chains. The jessel kit comes with a pre OE roller. The lt1 and late model sbc camshaft have a smaller diameter than the old sbc cams. If you notice the lt1 has a retainer plate and it cuts down 1/8 inch off both sides of the cam, thus putting the bolt holes on a smaller diameter.




thats what i was going to use, same thing just a little smaller.

[Biggin'89]

first off, thats badass!:metal:

second, how is that going to work with a cover and still seal and not throw oil everywhere? Also isn't a belt sort of unreliable being that it can stretch and will probably get oil soaked? I understand the 4 cylinders and their belts, but they are dry and not near as powerful as this motor.

I guess I should just research this to find out how exactly it works. Im really curious about this setup.

[Ponyhntr]

first off, thats badass!:metal:

second, how is that going to work with a cover and still seal and not throw oil everywhere? Also isn't a belt sort of unreliable being that it can stretch and will probably get oil soaked? I understand the 4 cylinders and their belts, but they are dry and not near as powerful as this motor.

I guess I should just research this to find out how exactly it works. Im really curious about this setup.

It's a dry belt setup... the cover is behind the belt. ;) It's actually more reliable, less power loss, and makes degreeing the cam easier.

[chevy42083]

I like the distributor idea, but man I really like the waterpump idea. Makes me think "why didn't I think of that, lol"

Same here. I may have a way to run an Electric water pump with my limited frontend space on the truck. :metal:

[Biggin'89]

It's a dry belt setup... the cover is behind the belt. ;) It's actually more reliable, less power loss, and makes degreeing the cam easier.

ok that makes more sense now. I was wondering how the belt wasn't going to get soaked.

[T/A KID]

Found the waterpump setup, looks pretty trick. Roadtrip any pics of it on the car?
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MEZ%2DWP362&view=32&N=700+400027+4294822055+4294838996+4294891681

[Z8's]

Rick Intrau ran a very similar set up on his car back in the day of his 8.08 pass.:secret:

[Toronto_LT1]

very nice looking set up.good job!

[krayzie7th]

wow! that thing is beautiful!! i wish that was mine.Great job!

[Tyler Wheat]

That's awesome! I look forward to seeing it at the shootout!

[roadtrip120]

Found the waterpump setup, looks pretty trick. Roadtrip any pics of it on the car?
not yet still mocking the rad up, but thats the pump



Rick Intrau ran a very similar set up on his car back in the day of his 8.08 pass.:secret:

Ya i had a few pics of his setup from back in the day. I had his long block pic to look at and i talked to a guy that has the Jessel setup on his NHRA lt1 car, he told me a lot about it, but no pic. So btwn the two i was able to understand what needed to be done.

As for the water pump flanges , that was a tough one, 12an fitting will not fit in the space btwn the upper and lower bolts, and still leave room for the fittings to turn and the bungs to be welded. It took some creative minds to figure an easy way to set it up.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/90498787.jpg
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/JesselBeltdrivemockup077.jpg

[T/A KID]

Roadtrip I just put two in two together, Your have the dart heads Bret did for you, the ones that flow 330+cfm?
Can't wait to see how this car runs :cool:

[roadtrip120]

Roadtrip I just put two in two together, Your have the dart heads Bret did for you, the ones that flow 330+cfm?
Can't wait to see how this car runs :cool:


yep, me too.

FAST XFI, should be here any day now, get it back together and start testing and dial it in before the shootout.

[JoeliusZ28]

wow, some incredible setups in here! I like!

[roadtrip120]

Updated pics

Radiator, pump, fan, and hoses all in place.

Made a little more progress tonight

Saved about 15lbs off the front end swapping from the factory radiator and dual fans to a 3" dual core Griffin radiator (15.5x27.5) and Single 14" Spaul fan, 12an fittings and lightweight black 12an hose


Here are some pics
http://ltxtech.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Radiatorsetup019.jpg%5B/IMG%5D
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Radiatorsetup019.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Radiatorsetup008.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Radiatorsetup009.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Radiatorsetup014.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Radiatorsetup015.jpg

[Speed Density]

Um..yea thats bad ass.

[paul95z]

Got the same radiator set up, wish I woulda thought about the water pump. Looks bad ass

[sinistr]

you are so handy dandy .. thats fn pimp

[95ztrey]

right on man !!! time to get you car running !!!

[MEAN LT1]

Raod Trip is not playing with yall. When he said its time to fish...its time to fish. Not play in the water gentelman.



Step ya game up fellas.

[95ztrey]

damn ....... thats looking bad!!!!! ill make sure to go the other way when i see you haha

[Fire67]

Looking very nice man! Where/who did your heads?

[roadtrip120]

Looking very nice man! Where/who did your heads?


Bret Bauer Racing Engines out of New York

330cfm at .625

[1SlowFormula]

OK, so I was thinking about somthing similar but carb'd (SR cam, Single Plane, nice heads, Jesel belt drive and shaft rockers) would you be willing to share more details on setting up the belt drive when that time comes for me?