Time for a new toy...1993 Corvette...

[popo8]

So in the past... I've almost always purchased a new toy, just before an old toy goes under some type of surgery...

It's kind of like, I need something else... just in case the project takes 2 long... I dont get all antsy...

Soooo, with the Impala getting ready for surgury... Something happened tonight...39086

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[95formula383lt1]

Looks like a lt1 vette rear bumper

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[Fastbird]

You bought a LTx swapped Chevette?

[SSlowBoat]

[emoji23] congrats buddy even though its speed density. shes gonna be a cool ride

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[popo8]

Looks like a lt1 vette rear bumper

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[popo8]

You bought a LTx swapped Chevette?Hahahaha, not ywt... but maybe someday. Lol

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[popo8]

[emoji23] congrats buddy even though its speed density. shes gonna be a cool ride

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkThanku... since I only have intentions to do cosmetic, suspension and other odds and ends, the SD was not a big concern to me. However... the mileage at (see photos) was HUGE!39087

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[popo8]

As mentioned previously... this is am SD car so I really have no intentions of modifying it to the point where it would need tune/computer adjustments.

So it will get tint, lowered, exhaust, cai and the hideous flat black wrap for a more aggressive and updated look...

Here is how she sits now... with a slightly off white leather seats and door panels...

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[JOATMON]

Looks like a stealth bomber Popo. The low miles are pretty impressive. Around here the LT1 Vettes can be bought very reasonable but typically have alot of miles on them. Nice score. Nolan

[JOATMON]

Oh, you'd just as soon get a new opti on order. If it has the same record as my wife's '94 non vented opti, they failed almost like clockwork at just over 50k miles. And as an update I replaced the second failed opti at just over 100k with an spline drive MSD with the new style venting and its been working flawless.

[Cathead]

Cool car! This would be a pretty good look if you get tired of the black!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191218/81f9938c8bdba91a5b29f7e69a8ff176.jpg

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[popo8]

Cool car! This would be a pretty good look if you get tired of the black!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191218/81f9938c8bdba91a5b29f7e69a8ff176.jpg

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkLol, it definitely would be cool... but since mine is an lt1 car, it has the wrong front and rear bumpers to replicate facemans car.

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[shownomercy]

Wait whats wrong with SD tuning?

[popo8]

Wait whats wrong with SD tuning?Finding someone to burn chips on a stock applocation.

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[shownomercy]

Finding someone to burn chips on a stock applocation.

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Oh, you are speaking of LTx problems.

[popo8]

Oh, you are speaking of LTx problems.U know... since this is LTX tech and all... lol

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[Fastbird]

Hey Larry, just an FYI, the old PCMForLess chip guy Alvin is running PCMofNC and has been for years now. He still does chip burning. You could easily get away with your typical bolt on's and even most off the shelf heads and cam setups and have him mail order tune it and be fine. He's a whiz with the chip cars. Don't limit yourself to bone stock.....you should be able to bolt on your way to about 300 RWHP with the car which would put it at stock C5 power levels at least.

[zooguy]

When I first got my current car i ditched the MAF sensor and went speed density. The car absolutely love being on nitrous. Just tossing that out there.

[Stormyweather]

Cool deal there.

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[popo8]

When I first got my current car i ditched the MAF sensor and went speed density. The car absolutely love being on nitrous. Just tossing that out there.Ur missing the point. It's not the ss that's the issue... it's the fact that 93 requires chips burned to tune.

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[popo8]

Hey Larry, just an FYI, the old PCMForLess chip guy Alvin is running PCMofNC and has been for years now. He still does chip burning. You could easily get away with your typical bolt on's and even most off the shelf heads and cam setups and have him mail order tune it and be fine. He's a whiz with the chip cars. Don't limit yourself to bone stock.....you should be able to bolt on your way to about 300 RWHP with the car which would put it at stock C5 power levels at least.Thanks man... I will keep it in mind. Didnt think anyone was still burning chips.

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[Fastbird]

Thanks man... I will keep it in mind. Didnt think anyone was still burning chips.

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Yep. He still has the 87-93 Vette listed on the website. Also, talk to jaysz2893 about the real time emulator (Moates Roadrunner I believe). Can actually plug it in, load it up, and real time tune with it BEFORE burning a final chip. It's neat stuff.

Oh, let me look around too. I may have a couple of chips and an adapter floating around here somewhere. Remember, I used to run SpeedDensity.org back in the 2001-2007 timeframe.

[jaysz2893]

Fastbird popo8
I happen to have a spare Moates Ostrich sitting around. It is the best option if you cant find a chip burner. Use Tunerpro R/T to upload the .bin. The .ads and .xdf files are all still at Moates support site. I run the Ostrich all the time in place of the Prom.

also I have an alvin tune with full bolt ons and a baby LPE cam... made approx 350/350 at the wheels.

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[SSlowBoat]

Oh, you'd just as soon get a new opti on order. If it has the same record as my wife's '94 non vented opti, they failed almost like clockwork at just over 50k miles. And as an update I replaced the second failed opti at just over 100k with an spline drive MSD with the new style venting and its been working flawless.Surprised your msd hasnt quit on you in 10 miles, had bad luck with them, currently have a 180k mile spline drive oem opti no issue

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[SSlowBoat]

When I first got my current car i ditched the MAF sensor and went speed density. The car absolutely love being on nitrous. Just tossing that out there.you cant easily flash a chipped pcm.

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[popo8]

Surprised your msd hasnt quit on you in 10 miles, had bad luck with them, currently have a 180k mile spline drive oem opti no issue

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkI was gonna say the same thing, but I didnt wanna jinx him in case he had the one msd that they made right. Lol

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[JOATMON]

LOL, No I don't work for MSD. My wifes '94 GM opti failed from corrosion damage at just over 50k, then again at just about 110k again from corrosion/ moisture damage. I posted photos here of the damage. I know alot of people got burned on defective MSD opti's. I "THINK" they may have resolved the earlier issues. I figured I didn't have anything to lose buying a vented version of the early spline drive unit. So far "knock on wood" it's worked fine.
I've had another experience with them, when I bought my '97 it already had a MSD opti. The previous owner gave me a folder full of info on the car and I found that the MSD opti that was in it had the rotor fall off sometime in the early 2000's. The repair ticket said the nechanic just put the rotor back on and all was well. While I was doing a head job on it I decided to replace it. I contacted MSD and told them I had paperwork proving that I had one of their problem units from around 2001. They told me to send it and they would rebuild for $130 even though it was well out of warranty. To my surprise they sent me back a brand new opti which is working flawless "knock on wood". I think that they may have all the problems resolved now, it has been nearly 20 yrs ago when they had all the issues. But I do understand many still have a bad taste in their mouth about the MSD opti.

[Injuneer]

Problem with the MSD seems to be new problems pop up at random times. A large batch from about 4 years ago had a problem with intermittent, spurious high res pulses making the PCM think the engine was turning as high as 7,000 RPM. The PCM would respond by raising the IAC counts, and idle would jump as high as 3,000 RPM, and surge all over the place. I gave MSD data logs showing the problem, and eventually they figured out it was something with the cap (stray high voltage pulses interfering w/ the optical module?). There’s a thread on this site summarizing the events. The thread started with an MSD tech rep who is a member here offering discount prices on cosmetically damaged surplus caps.

Of the three people I helped with this problem, 2 sent the defective units back to MSD and had them rebuilt. In both cases the returned rebuilt units were defective and the engine would not start. One guy just gave up. The other got a third unit from MSD (new, not rebuilt) and it was OK.

MSD makes great stuff, but their Opti has always had issues.

[popo8]

Had her tinted today...39089

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[Stormyweather]

Looks great. Keeping the wheels?

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[popo8]

Looks great. Keeping the wheels?

Sent from my HP Pro Slate 8 using TapatalkNo, not keeping anything, lol. Wheels, wrap lighting, suspension, all getting changed.

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[Stormyweather]

Cool

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[Fastbird]

Looking better already. Call me crazy but I like the flat black wrap. It's got potential. But I'm partial to this also:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/f5/9c/b1f59c38a36eefc7cc40528fd72f17e6.jpg
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[popo8]

Looking better already. Call me crazy but I like the flat black wrap. It's got potential. But I'm partial to this also:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/f5/9c/b1f59c38a36eefc7cc40528fd72f17e6.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/2d/e7/f92de7978dbfd5558ecb9342aa4c5293.jpgDude... u cant tell from the pics... it's all bubbles and seams and patches spots... its garbage.

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[Fastbird]

Dude... u cant tell from the pics... it's all bubbles and seams and patches spots... its garbage.

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Oh.......ewwwwww.

[SSlowBoat]

LOL, No I don't work for MSD. My wifes '94 GM opti failed from corrosion damage at just over 50k, then again at just about 110k again from corrosion/ moisture damage. I posted photos here of the damage. I know alot of people got burned on defective MSD opti's. I "THINK" they may have resolved the earlier issues. I figured I didn't have anything to lose buying a vented version of the early spline drive unit. So far "knock on wood" it's worked fine.
I've had another experience with them, when I bought my '97 it already had a MSD opti. The previous owner gave me a folder full of info on the car and I found that the MSD opti that was in it had the rotor fall off sometime in the early 2000's. The repair ticket said the nechanic just put the rotor back on and all was well. While I was doing a head job on it I decided to replace it. I contacted MSD and told them I had paperwork proving that I had one of their problem units from around 2001. They told me to send it and they would rebuild for $130 even though it was well out of warranty. To my surprise they sent me back a brand new opti which is working flawless "knock on wood". I think that they may have all the problems resolved now, it has been nearly 20 yrs ago when they had all the issues. But I do understand many still have a bad taste in their mouth about the MSD opti.Funny story, my msd worked fine, was from the early 2000's, sent it for a rebuild for 130 bux for bearing play, they sent back what looked like a "new" one, wasnt the same one i sent them, and it had nothing but issues.

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[JOATMON]

Hey Popo, Sorry to mess up your thread by even mentioning the evil opti made by em es de. LOL

[SSlowBoat]

sorry hott fuzz.

so what you thinking for exhaust?

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[popo8]

sorry hott fuzz.

so what you thinking for exhaust?

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkLol... I'm thinking 1700 bucks of clear image headers... then mate em up to what's there for now.

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[SSlowBoat]

Lol... I'm thinking 1700 bucks of clear image headers... then mate em up to what's there for now.

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkHe makes c4 vette headers?

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[popo8]

He makes c4 vette headers?

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkNo... that was the answer for the impala. Lol.


Exhaust for the c4 will most likely start with a cat delete and muffler delete if not loud enough. Then if 2 loud prob some magnaflow cans at the end.

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[popo8]

Dropped off at my buddies shop for some keyless entry, hatch popper and remote start action...39092

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[popo8]

Some friends challenged each other yesterday, to see who could peel more of the bubbles up wrap from the targa top.... that festered into stripping 80% of the car with the exception of the headlights the drivers side door. The bottom half of the passenger side door amd some trim...

We now know why they put that crappy wrap on the car...

Because like many early 90s cars, the clear coat faded and peeled... I guess one of the previous owners grabbed a DA and went to town... what they were left with was not pretty... so why not wrap it. "How hard could it be, hold my beer," I cam only assume were the last words the vette heard...39095

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[JOATMON]

New wrap or paint job?

[popo8]

New wrap or paint job?Custom liquid vinyl wrap...

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[popo8]

GS flares just arrived. gm authentic... these lil things are 400 bucks!!!!39103

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[JOATMON]

I just read about the spray on wraps. Interesting concept. I also found out you could get the final coats done in gloss which I think looks wayyy better than the matte finishes. Can't wait to see how yours comes out.

[popo8]

I just read about the spray on wraps. Interesting concept. I also found out you could get the final coats done in gloss which I think looks wayyy better than the matte finishes. Can't wait to see how yours comes out.Yes sir... and that final coat is not just a gloss... it is actually done in clear liquid vinyl which dries to a hardness that can actually be wet sanded and buffed. Just like paint, that I can peel off at anytime.

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[popo8]

Sweet jebus, thata wide!39133

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[Camaro96]

Sweet jebus, thata wide!39133

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[popo8]

What size rims are you running ?

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[Camaro96]

18 x 10.5

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkI love seeing sports car with a lot of rubber out back

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[popo8]

I love seeing sports car with a lot of rubber out back

Sent from my VS996 using TapatalkMe2... cant wait to get em on... will be the widest tires I've ever had. Idk why I never got a set for the camaro while it was "alive."

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[Injuneer]

How about 355's on a Camaro.....

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/wheels-tires-49/mini-tub-355s-884674/

[popo8]

How about 355's on a Camaro.....

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/wheels-tires-49/mini-tub-355s-884674/Looks awesome... I just wanted to avoid mini tubbing in the vette and in the old camaro...

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[Cathead]

How about 355's on a Camaro.....

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/wheels-tires-49/mini-tub-355s-884674/Damn, that looks good!!

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[popo8]

So, had to push the Corvette's cosmetic makeover since the impala is not dun yet (I bought the vette to distract myself while the imp was under construction, not to have both under construction at the same time).

On top of that, the vette has somehow become my field friendly dd!

It's been getting better with every tank of fuel I've run thru it... so idk if the previous owner idled and ran garbage gas, or if I'm just easier on the throttle...39218

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[Cathead]

So, had to push the Corvette's cosmetic makeover since the impala is not dun yet (I bought the vette to distract myself while the imp was under construction, not to have both under construction at the same time).

On top of that, the vette has somehow become my field friendly dd!

It's been getting better with every tank of fuel I've run thru it... so idk if the previous owner idled and ran garbage gas, or if I'm just easier on the throttle...39218

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkNothing worse than all of your toys out of comission. On the gas topic...I experienced the same thing with my SS, using 93 octane. I think the previous owner used 87.

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[popo8]

So, had to push the Corvette's cosmetic makeover since the impala is not dun yet (I bought the vette to distract myself while the imp was under construction, not to have both under construction at the same time).

On top of that, the vette has somehow become my field friendly dd!

It's been getting better with every tank of fuel I've run thru it... so idk if the previous owner idled and ran garbage gas, or if I'm just easier on the throttle...39218

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkFor those that messaged me thinkin that it only said 400 mile range because I had just filled up... it has actually gotten better. This pic is still the same tank btw...39222

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[popo8]

Tires mounted and new wheels ON.

used the old rears which were 285s and put them on the front... amd got a new set of 335s for the rear.392473924839249

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[Fastbird]

Solid improvement.

[SSlowBoat]

looks damn good with those on it

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[popo8]

Tha is fellas... I gotta get some pics from behind... looks insane with those 335s on the back of a c4.

Next up... muffler delete.

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[popo8]

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[SSlowBoat]

she phat

[Fastbird]

That's a lot of meat back there. Needs a big snaily boy up front so it makes those meats earn their keep, lol.

[popo8]

Well... while not much is goin on... I spent 15 minutes drilling 3 holes and mounting the Grand Sport flares... only used the screws on both sides... when it goes for paint they will need to be removed, and at that time it can get the 3m and screws for permanent attachment.

Now I need to decide... how big of a spacer to flush em...392803928139282

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[popo8]

Finally got to space the wheels out to match the GS flares... love it!3932239323

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[SSlowBoat]

shes got a fatty

[harner]

Looks about 10x wider back there now!

[popo8]

Looks about 10x wider back there now!I guess in reality its 5" wider... I love the look from behind!

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[Brandon++S]

Looks awesome!


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[popo8]

So I had to drop the vette off at the local exhauat shop... as they are going to handle a muffler delete for me 2moro.

Its exactly 2 miles from home...

I was gonna call am uber to bring me back... but it was soooo nice... i decided to walk.

Thanks to Spotify and the vanilla ice Channel for having me singing and strutting for the full 2 miles...3949539496

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[popo8]

Some of you may remember my old vette. The 96 GRANDSPORT CLONE...

(the GS was a limited edition made 1 year only in 96, and only 1000 were made. In the pics below... one is my clone and one is legit).

Well I had plans of doing something similar but with the car painted nardo grey and a black stripe...

...but now with all of the anti-cop shyt going on... i think she is going to get wrapped in a dark color with a bright blue stripe (representing the thin blue line) up the middle. So same scheme... different colors... DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

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[popo8]

Muffler Delete done! Kept the stock box tips...

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[popo8]

Muffler Delete done! Kept the stock box tips...

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[SSlowBoat]

smoooth

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[JOATMON]

LOUD?

[JOATMON]

So I had to drop the vette off at the local exhauat shop... as they are going to handle a muffler delete for me 2moro.

Its exactly 2 miles from home...

I was gonna call am uber to bring me back... but it was soooo nice... i decided to walk.

Thanks to Spotify and the vanilla ice Channel for having me singing and strutting for the full 2 miles...3949539496

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OH, I forgot to tell you that I walk a mile most mornings. I can walk a bit faster than you without pushing myself. AND, I'm 65 yrs. old. Just saying, LOL.

[popo8]

LOUD?Not at all... just enough to make some noise.

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[Parmy]

Are you gonna build the motor? I’ve a killer top end for sale if you are

[SSlowBoat]

Are you gonna build the motor? I’ve a killer top end for sale if you areHe has a LE2 heads/cam motor ready for it.

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[popo8]

Are you gonna build the motor? I’ve a killer top end for sale if you areTubby is right... everything from the Impala is gonna be available for it... once the impala is done with my old camaros heart.

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[SSlowBoat]

Tubby is right... everything from the Impala is gonna be available for it... once the impala is done with my old camaros heart.

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[popo8]

Sorry hot fuzz didnt mean to speak for you

Sent from my SM-N975U using TapatalkI appreciate that you did...

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[Parmy]

No worries, I’d post them for sale but don’t have enough posts to allow me to do that

[popo8]

[QUOTE=Parmy;493136]No worries, I’d post them for sale but don’t have enough posts to allow me to do that[/QUOTE meissen can we help him out with the post count to get some parts up for sale?

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[meissen]

I lowered the post count requirement for the "General Sales" section to 10 posts so you should be good to post your sales ad now :)

[popo8]

[QUOTE=Parmy;493136]No worries, I’d post them for sale but don’t have enough posts to allow me to do that[/QUOTE meissen hooked you up Parmy

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[popo8]

I lowered the post count requirement for the "General Sales" section to 10 posts so you should be good to post your sales ad now :)Thanku B!

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[popo8]

Sooo, as the impala project stalls once again due to my inability to do anything, I turn towards the vette again.

I'm looking into purchasing some z51 shocks (not a z51 car) to stiffen the ride. Unfortunately the base suspension is softer and on one higher speed sweeking bump, I put the rear tire into the right rear quarter... both cracking it ans separating the bond.... not a big deal, as I plan to body work it back together before I have the car wrapped...

I believe the z51 shocks (from what I've read and my experience from the old vette which was a z51), should be much more aggressive and keep the quarters off of the tires in the future if I stay with the same set up with the flares. (Was thinking of putting the camaros old ddc5 wheels om the car and slamming it without spacers as another option). Either way, the more aggressive shocks should be good for either set up...

Thats it for now... once I get the susp figured out... ill continue to put miles on it the way it is... till the Impala is done... whenever that will be... at which point I can swap the vette for the impala to have the heads and cam from the impala installed, and have a chip burned to accommodate that...

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[Parmy]

Thanks Popo!

[Parmy]

Thanks!

[popo8]

Quick 2 hour round trip to pick up a glass top for the Vette...3969539696

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[popo8]

Well absolutely bored sitting at home... so why not spend money.

Ordered the 1" lowering kit... and also some viking double adjustable rear shocks to stiffen the ride (since I bottomed out and put a wheel into the quarter panel when I had the spacers on, NO BUENO).

THATS all for now... lol

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[popo8]

Took the vette to drop it off to have some work done...3972339724

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[popo8]

Well we made it 2 years... I decided it was time to unload her because at this point I life, with a 6 year old... all the toys should at least have a rear seat.

Still a low mileage 1993 vette, she sold quick (less than 5 hrs after posting, she was on her way to NC).

BUT... as most of you know. More toys to come.

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[popo8]

Got some pics from the new owner... he's been busy the past two weeks.40104401054010640107

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