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The pan gasket was replaced at 100kish by a shop. The timing chain wasn't touched.
I'll just replace it.
I fixed the hub bolt holes too.
Well, I got a umi torque arm relocation crossmember and am going to get a torque arm from founders.
dawdaw
05-08-2016, 06:26 AM
You don't have the motor torn down completely yet????
I do. New heads will be bolted down when I get home from work. Should have pushrod length measured tonight.
dawdaw i found a ls car who wants to race you at Lapeer.
dawdaw
05-08-2016, 07:04 PM
Well that's good. You are quite slow :)
I haven't touched mine. I kind of temporarily lost interest in it due to work, child, etc.
I know I'm slow. Just trying to make time with all these doctors, shoulder injury again, work, school etc. I have Tuesday and Wednesday off and my friends are coming over to help me so we should make a lot of progress.
How is your kid doing? Still pooping his diapers?
Formula218
05-08-2016, 07:56 PM
Work at your pace, rush and you'll risk skipping stuff. The tracks will be open for a long time, keep it up man!!! After messing with mine all last year i started to lose interest in it. felt like it was all working on it and no having fun. I didn't really do much with mine this winter just cuz i wanted it to be ready to rock. Just keep that first turn of the key in mind and how satisfying it'll be once it's together!
I'm trying to get it done. I'll be having more days off soon so I'll be happy to get this ball rolling
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LOL RIP ME MAN..
dawdaw
05-11-2016, 05:15 AM
Wow you had the wrong socket on it ? Drrrrrrr
Formula218
05-11-2016, 06:45 AM
I got it off
twss
12 points are the best sockets
dawdaw
05-11-2016, 02:27 PM
I figured
Probably should have drained the block before lifting the heads
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Head gasket was blown and the coolant passages(I think?) were all gunked up!
SJx408
05-13-2016, 12:30 AM
Good progress!
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Alright, I have a question.
How clean should the block be before putting the new head gaskets on? Anything I should use?
Also incase any tiny bits of old gasket material fell into the cylinder, can I spray some oil in each cylinder and turn the motor over to try and get that leftover junk into the pan?
Thanks guys. I'm going to be installing the cam Sunday. My friends have a YouTube channel with car stuff and they might be coming by to film this shit with some of my other friends too.
shownomercy
05-13-2016, 12:08 PM
Clean as you can get it. Alcohol, and paper towels till that bitch shines. I would be wary of using anything but a straight razor to clean crap off.
Just use a shop vac to get the big chunks out of cylinders then use a paper towel soaked in some oil to wipe clean.
Ok. Thanks snm you're the man. I was just worried about the stuff in between the piston and cylinder wall. You can see some kind of crap but I'll try vacuuming it out.
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I'll get a picture of my headgasket when I get home.
shownomercy
05-13-2016, 12:19 PM
Could try running the cylinder up and down to see if the crap sits up top when piston goes down
popo8
05-13-2016, 06:03 PM
Use the straight razor backwards so the edge is not going into the metal... thatl clean ur surfaces up nice. Then some laquer thinner or good cleaner (alcohol, brake kleen... etc).
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Catmaigne
05-13-2016, 06:37 PM
Solvents alone usually don't get the job done. I lightly use straight razors and lots of them. They get dull and nicked pretty easily so I'm constantly switching. Keep the blade away from holes in the deck as much as you can bc the corrosion and buildup will damage it.
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dawdaw
05-13-2016, 07:58 PM
Holy tape. Lol . what you worried a mouse is gonna chew a hole threw the pistons??
Holy tape. Lol . what you worried a mouse is gonna chew a hole threw the pistons??
Went away for the weekend! Can't let no mice in there.
Do while it's all apart I'm changing motor mounts. Where do I jack the motor up at? Just use a block of wood underneath the pan and jack?
Catmaigne
05-14-2016, 10:55 AM
I wouldn't, it's flimsy steel. If you have a hoist then you can bolt a chain to the front of the block and lift from there. When I didn't have a hoist I had bottle jacks under the accessory bracket and the front corner of the block. Dunno if that was right but I didn't die so it was ok.
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Well I just got it the accessory braket off. I could put it back on I guess. Any other suggestions?
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popo8
05-16-2016, 11:44 PM
Good job man. Stick with it.
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shownomercy
05-17-2016, 06:18 AM
Block of wood under crank snout and go slow. Its only a crank, what could go wrong?
Personally I would just wait till you can use a hoist to pull front of motor up.
Formula218
05-17-2016, 06:56 AM
I used wood under the pan and it didn't dent or anything, try and use something wide to spread the load. We had a piece of a 6x8 beam that worked perfect.
Block of wood under crank snout and go slow. Its only a crank, what could go wrong?
Personally I would just wait till you can use a hoist to pull front of motor up.
I was gonna lift it up by the cam.
The only hoist I got is a boat hoist lol. I just figured it would be a lot easier todo the mounts now with literally nothing there.
dawdaw
05-17-2016, 07:58 PM
Don't get the floor dirty.
popo8
05-18-2016, 09:23 AM
When is ur goal to do fire up?
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Hopefully next Friday. I've been throwing up all morning but idc need to get this running
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Didn't change the timing set yet, but mocked up the 24x. But the heads are partially on, I need new head gaskets because these ones were a little bent on the edges and I ain't doing this again.
Formula218
05-19-2016, 06:00 AM
Good progress!
Thanks Formula218
After talking with a fellow lt1 guy from Michigan, I'm likely buying a keyed ati hub and using a longer key after his crank reluctor walked off. Whether that be for this season or next I'm not sure yet. He had a ati hub w/ no extended key.
Still need to rotate the motor to get some more crud out from between the piston and cylinder wall.
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I've also been trolling my school's group and they actually believe I put a forged 5.3 with heads converted for single plane in my car. I even said I built the motor myself :/
Waiting on my oil pump drive gear still. Gonna go measure pushrod length. I don't need no oil pump drive do to that!
Shouldve just went through dealer for 10 bucks more :/
PoloGreenZ
05-31-2016, 11:23 PM
Any updates on your build?
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Not really, FINALLY got the oil pump drive after almost two weeks.
0411 Pcm I sent Moe wasn't from a f body so I'm a little pissed off. I was told it was.
Ugh
popo8
06-01-2016, 10:20 PM
Not really, FINALLY got the oil pump drive after almost two weeks.
0411 Pcm I sent Moe wasn't from a f body so I'm a little pissed off. I was told it was.
Ugh
Does it need to be from an fbody if its being tuned fresh?
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According to Moe, he has to do some more magic with it to make it work.
Came out of a damn LM7 truck.
Oh well, we'll make it work.
shownomercy
06-02-2016, 07:35 AM
Change the vin and you win. My PCM was a V6 fbody in a previous life.
Formula218
06-02-2016, 07:36 AM
I'm pretty sure you can flash them to work for whatever, I'm using the stock LM7 ecm with HPTuner in my car without issue.
Moe can't tune truck PCMs so he's having someone else load the tune for me. Just gotta mail money again. I've spent 350 on a tune so far. The first one never worked on the other lt1 pcm.
popo8
06-02-2016, 07:44 PM
Moe can't tune truck PCMs so he's having someone else load the tune for me. Just gotta mail money again. I've spent 350 on a tune so far. The first one never worked on the other lt1 pcm.
Lol... 350 on tuning. Ive got thousands... Sssssssss in tuning.
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350 to me is chump change to you. This is just a Mail order tune. Just annoyed I have to spend more money but I understand.
I like Moe, I trust him over anybody else for a mail order. I hope he doesn't get the wrong idea from this.
Catmaigne
06-02-2016, 08:39 PM
I've got $160 invested between two tunes and I'm still mad
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popo8
06-02-2016, 11:24 PM
Everyone has to remember... if ur not doing a street/driving or dyno tune... u cant be upset if its not 100% or sometimes even close. Each car is different and mail ordering a tune is an educated guess based on the assumption that all of the information about the vehicle is dead on... that all of the vehicles mechanical aspects are working 100% and so on...
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I'm not saying I'm upset it wasn't the best tune, it never worked because that pcm was bricked. Not Moe's fault but mine for not just sending mine out.
I've bought two PCMs here and I'll never do it again.
Formula218
06-03-2016, 06:28 AM
The tuning aspect was the single biggest reason I went LS. So much easier to just order HPTuner and be able to do stuff yourself. Me and 3 friends with LS stuff went it and bought it so it was cheap, and now I can just have my buddy tweak my tune whenever I do something new. Might be worth looking into if you can use HPT for the 24x stuff.
dawdaw
06-03-2016, 09:45 AM
OE PCM ttfmf!
SSlowBoat
06-03-2016, 10:43 AM
I had 100 invested in mine, including cable and program. Learned to do it myself. Osie has over 2k in his, and the 200 mail order is better than the 1600 "dynosaur" tune
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popo8
06-03-2016, 03:54 PM
... Osie has over 2k in his, and the 200 mail order is better than the 1600 "dynosaur" tune
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But u said it urself... he pulled the car from them early cause it was there for a while and he didnt wanna keep spending the money. I left mine there till they were done with it (and I definitely paid for it)... but its the closest to "perfect" that its ever been.
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Also, this is just a tune to make the car drivable.
I already have a guy do to a street tune.
SSlowBoat
06-03-2016, 04:04 PM
But u said it urself... he pulled the car from them early cause it was there for a while and he didnt wanna keep spending the money. I left mine there till they were done with it (and I definitely paid for it)... but its the closest to "perfect" that its ever been.
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No. They called and said they were done with it, he drove down to pick it up and it was worse than before.
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popo8
06-03-2016, 04:05 PM
No. They called and said they were done with it, he drove down to pick it up and it was worse than before.
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Really... cause what i wrote above is what u explained to me then.
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SSlowBoat
06-03-2016, 04:08 PM
Really... cause what i wrote above is what u explained to me then.
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Lost in translation. They said it was ready, he went to get it, paid for it over phone the day before and went down on a Saturday. He got there and it didn't want to start, and the ride home was surgy and not running like it should. Dove into the tune and even moe said the tune was wrong. I'm glad your car runs great from them. His didn't.
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popo8
06-03-2016, 04:18 PM
Lost in translation.
Lol... ok.
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Spec Stage 2 clutch kit, Spec steel flywheel, ARP PP bolts, and pushrods have been ordered.
That was a fast 1100 spent.
Formula218
06-08-2016, 05:59 AM
God damn! I couldn't afford the LT life even if I was a glutton for punishment.
Ls life and life in general is the same. Gotta pay to have fun
Formula218
06-08-2016, 09:22 AM
Same principal, yes. Far from the same cost. You've gotta really love work and hate money to build a LT lol.
How would a Spec Stage 2 clutch kit, Spec steel flywheel, ARP PP bolts, and pushrods cost less than $1100 on a LS?
A $350 tune for a LT1 is less money for a LS tune.
When OP finally gets to a good tune it will cost about the same as a LS tune.
I'm so confused on how the work is different.
Pushrod motors
Catmaigne
06-08-2016, 11:26 AM
How would a Spec Stage 2 clutch kit, Spec steel flywheel, ARP PP bolts, and pushrods cost less than $1100 on a LS?
Everybody knows they come with that stuff from the factory, duhhhh
My tune for THIS build is 350. That is my Mail order and soon to be street toon.
Do I pump and prime these lifters? Interwebs is so yaynay
Catmaigne
06-08-2016, 01:45 PM
Just soak them in fresh oil
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Thanks. I've come this far would rather not fuck it up lol
Formula218
06-08-2016, 04:31 PM
How would a Spec Stage 2 clutch kit, Spec steel flywheel, ARP PP bolts, and pushrods cost less than $1100 on a LS?
A $350 tune for a LT1 is less money for a LS tune.
When OP finally gets to a good tune it will cost about the same as a LS tune.
Unlocked my ecu in HTP for $100 and I can update it when I need to for free lol. The LS is better already so they don't need to be upgraded to make as much power. And the things I did on that list were cheaper because people like me more since i have a LS swap.
Everybody knows they come with that stuff from the factory, duhhhh
exactly!
Catmaigne
06-08-2016, 08:01 PM
What are you on about? When I looked into getting HPT for my 24x swap it was $500 for the interface and credits. Even if you bought the interface used for a few hundred, you still have to spend $100 for each PCM you unlock and bricking one leaves you SOL. Tuning an LT1 only takes a $60-80 cable, my crappy laptop, and some freeware.
This platform is dying but still cheaper for builds 425whp and under.
Formula218
06-09-2016, 06:27 AM
What are you on about? When I looked into getting HPT for my 24x swap it was $500 for the interface and credits. Even if you bought the interface used for a few hundred, you still have to spend $100 for each PCM you unlock and bricking one leaves you SOL. Tuning an LT1 only takes a $60-80 cable, my crappy laptop, and some freeware.
This platform is dying but still cheaper for builds 425whp and under.
I just had to buy credits, I already have access to the interface. I don't know about that 'cheaper 425whp and under', I should be close to that HP number hopefully, and will have no place near what this build costs into mine. Obviously Dan could have done it cheaper than he did if that was his goal, but the prices you guys pay for stuff blows my mind when i know what i'll have into mine to be comparable.
popo8
06-09-2016, 07:21 AM
Either way... to each their own. To say one is cheaper than the other is not a true statement... its all in what kind of deals u find... how much DIY u are capable of, etc. It wont be long before the LS platform is basterdized to the newest, latest and greatest.
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Wow how off topic this shit fucking got.
It's not about the money to me. I'm not into junkyard and used parts builds. Of course i could have picked up a set of afr 195cc heads off lt1 nation for cheap and just got a cam.
That's not what this build/shit show is about. It's about me brah.
Ls platform is better no shit but their community is trash and the proof is here.
You're right about us getting off topic Dan. I'm a HUGE lurker and I have read every page of your build and I give you props for digging into your project the way that you have.
Oh jeez that's no good that you've read everything.
I dug into this because blown headgasket. I'm going to school for engineering so that helps too.
shownomercy
06-09-2016, 12:18 PM
I can get gas cheap cause I don't have to own a refinery too, that logic is dumb.
At some point you pay for the HPT suite, which is not cheap, and then you pay per OS unlock. Used to cost more for a 3bar OS too, assholes at HPT.
In the end, we do what we can, with what we got. There is always someone faster, who did it for less and gets more wins.
Formula218
06-09-2016, 12:24 PM
I can get gas cheap cause I don't have to own a refinery too, that logic is dumb.
At some point you pay for the HPT suite, which is not cheap, and then you pay per OS unlock. Used to cost more for a 3bar OS too, assholes at HPT.
In the end, we do what we can, with what we got. There is always someone faster, who did it for less and gets more wins.
Gas would probably cheaper for you, if not free is you had your own refinery, so yeah THAT logic was pretty silly lol. I didn't pay for the suite, and never will have to but i get what you're saying and how it would apply to most people.
shownomercy
06-09-2016, 01:12 PM
Gas would probably cheaper for you, if not free is you had your own refinery, so yeah THAT logic was pretty silly lol. I didn't pay for the suite, and never will have to but i get what you're saying and how it would apply to most people.
Point was you would have to invest in owning a refinery in order to see the cheap gas.
popo8
06-09-2016, 05:41 PM
I can get gas cheap cause I don't have to own a refinery too, that logic is dumb.
At some point you pay for the HPT suite, which is not cheap, and then you pay per OS unlock. Used to cost more for a 3bar OS too, assholes at HPT.
In the end, we do what we can, with what we got. There is always someone faster, who did it for less and gets more wins.
Well said.
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Courtesy of mister 96LT1355Z28
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Got one head torqued down yeee haw
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We got heads torqued and rockers on ready for a lashin'!
Need to get it done right meowhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160617/d4dcf913ac6a3aba06ac71c86093d472.jpg
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I did this the other day I forgot
Should probably get this thing moving
SJx408
06-23-2016, 12:45 PM
Looking good Dan !
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popo8
06-23-2016, 10:28 PM
Should probably get this thing moving
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Gotta get it fixed so I can sell it
popo8
06-24-2016, 07:56 AM
Gotta get it fixed so I can sell it
Lol. Yeah right.
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shownomercy
06-24-2016, 12:37 PM
Hurry up and get an LS1 in there already.
popo8
06-24-2016, 02:43 PM
Hurry up and get an LS1 in there already.
Trouble maker. Lol.
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Some things have been happening at home and this car has been put on the back burner. Going to try and slowly work on it, but it's not looking good.
Will hopefully post some updates Sunday
Slowly working my way on this car with only a few hours a day. It was 105° in the garage.
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Look at those fancy bolts!
popo8
07-15-2016, 12:13 AM
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Look at those fancy bolts!
Ur getting there... cmon man. Step it up so u can drive it b4 winter.
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I'm getting there. Going to set lash tomorrow when I grt home from O'Reilly.
The pan bolts are supposed to basically be hand tight right? Not too tight because it will crush the gasket?
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07-16-2016, 04:35 AM
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SSlowBoat
07-16-2016, 08:04 PM
I'm getting there. Going to set lash tomorrow when I grt home from O'Reilly.
The pan bolts are supposed to basically be hand tight right? Not too tight because it will crush the gasket?
Loom at shbox.com for a torque fastener matrix. Has torque value for every bolt. And no, it's actually tighter than that
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Yeah.. I brain farted on that one.
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Lel
Set lash.
FUCK CANTONS.
That is all.
shownomercy
07-26-2016, 06:34 AM
Wait till it leaks.
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Having a hard time finding most of the bolts. I think I accidentally threw them away like a genius.
shownomercy
07-30-2016, 09:45 PM
They are prob under the intake.
Formula218
07-31-2016, 07:25 AM
Who throws away bolts? You're supposed to have a old coffee can or a drawer in the tool box for all the extras.
popo8
07-31-2016, 11:02 AM
Lookin good. But yeah... who throws away hardware. Get a container and always keep ur "extra" stuff. Just in cases like this...
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dawdaw
07-31-2016, 12:17 PM
Looks like I may lose my bet to Jim. He said he would not see this turd running by fall.
https://youtu.be/Ca3zFTs5F6U
It's running bro
dawdaw
07-31-2016, 02:21 PM
Lol.
Catmaigne
07-31-2016, 06:18 PM
Sounds healthy
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Formula218
08-01-2016, 12:33 PM
It's running bro
That sounds more like an coyote motor, something seems fishy here.
You caught me, I dun 5.0 swapped my car
popo8
08-01-2016, 03:19 PM
https://youtu.be/Ca3zFTs5F6U
It's running bro
Lol. Ur so weird. Haha
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So these cantons...
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Shits annoying fam
popo8
08-01-2016, 10:15 PM
I dont see the issue. Is there contact?
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It's only mounted at two spots, up high and down low. The other brackets won't reach over the valve covers. I'm just overly dissatisfied with them and they will probably leak with my luck.
Doing the harness tomorrow, shouldn't take me long. Still don't know how I'm mounting coils. Original plan won't work.
I'm too anal about everything
popo8
08-01-2016, 10:25 PM
I run cantons. No issues mountin the alt. And NO leaks
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shownomercy
08-02-2016, 09:29 AM
That is why you do not run mailboxes as valve covers.
But, I have never run the silly factory brace for the alternator and no issues. Two bolts through case and good to go.
Formula218
08-02-2016, 11:19 AM
It's only mounted at two spots, up high and down low. The other brackets won't reach over the valve covers. I'm just overly dissatisfied with them and they will probably leak with my luck.
Doing the harness tomorrow, shouldn't take me long. Still don't know how I'm mounting coils. Original plan won't work.
I'm too anal about everything
Could you mount them inside the wiper cowl or just under it where they can't be seen, then just run wires down the firewall and out to the plugs?
Is a valve cover that big required for rocker clearance?
Catmaigne
08-02-2016, 11:41 AM
Sounds like more trouble than it's worth. I've never had a problem with stock valve covers and a little trimming... I'm still using them actually.
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Before I cut any wire.
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This means I have to splice the 4 wires into one correct?
shownomercy
08-02-2016, 01:16 PM
No.
Do not splice or solder anything.
Well then how do I get them to go into one? They are grounds. Could I just ground them to the body?
shownomercy
08-02-2016, 01:20 PM
Pull up a 0411 PCM pinout, look for ground pins, use them if they are empty.
Alright. I have another list that I'm going to use as well. Thanks man
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Don't know where else black 30 can go. Blue 3 is already in the spot
I figured it out. Wire just needs to be not "hot" anymore.
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It looks like poo i know. I'll clean it up later if it works.
Working on the mounting bracket for the coils.
shownomercy
08-11-2016, 10:17 AM
Temporary and works, become permanent.
Take the time to make it how you want it to look when you have the chance now.
popo8
08-11-2016, 04:20 PM
Temporary and works, become permanent.
Take the time to make it how you want it to look when you have the chance now.
Well said.
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SSlowBoat
08-11-2016, 06:29 PM
Should've just stayed opti
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Camaro96
08-11-2016, 09:17 PM
Evil opti will not let you spin past 7000.
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I'm spinning til 6k. 24x was cheap for me. Wasn't a big deal. Wasn't too hard.
I will be tidying it up if it works.
SSlowBoat
08-12-2016, 10:08 AM
I'm spinning til 6k. 24x was cheap for me. Wasn't a big deal. Wasn't too hard.
I will be tidying it up if it works.
Still don't see why
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popo8
08-12-2016, 10:50 AM
Should've just stayed opti
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popo8
08-12-2016, 10:51 AM
Evil opti will not let you spin past 7000.
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He wont be spinning past 7k... lol. Most people dont spin past 7k...
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Camaro96
08-12-2016, 12:18 PM
He wont be spinning past 7k... lol. Most people dont spin past 7k...
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That's true. LOL most of use don't. The power has peaked before 6500.
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Catmaigne
08-12-2016, 06:32 PM
Who in their right mind spins past 7k on a stock bottom end?
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I never said I'd spin it anywhere near 7k.. Limiter is set to 6300..
Car isn't starting. Testing for spark tomorrow
https://youtu.be/yNyWZ_NZpYQ
Camaro96
08-25-2016, 08:49 PM
Good video. Did you happen to check to see if you have fuel pressure?
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I'm leaning towards the crank sensor being bad.
FASHOOTER
08-26-2016, 05:32 AM
Go 24x they said....it will be easy they said
popo8
08-26-2016, 05:54 AM
Good video. Did you happen to check to see if you have fuel pressure?
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I agree. Always start with the basics. Fuel pressure is the easiest to test.
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popo8
08-26-2016, 05:54 AM
Go 24x they said....it will be easy they said
Viva le Opti!!!
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Jon114
08-26-2016, 06:58 AM
Had problems with my crank sensor too. 2 sensors later and car fired right up. Shoulda stayed with the opti!
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popo8
08-26-2016, 08:27 AM
... Shoulda stayed with the opti!
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shownomercy
08-26-2016, 10:49 AM
Does the fuel pump prime?
Do you have power at coils?
Is there spark?
Do you expect to diagnose off a video of it cranking?
Any codes?
Pump primes.
There is power going to the coils, however I think my wiring is bad. I have the power for the coils running to the extra 12v source for the pcm.
Only code I had was map sensor voltage low but fixed it by plugging the pin into the computer and have Evap code.
I don't expect diagnosis off a video. Just wanted to post it.
shownomercy
08-26-2016, 12:07 PM
Well, grab a scan tool, and see if it picks up RPM on cranking. Go from there.
Yeah.. 160 mV at the coil harness.. That's not right
shownomercy
08-26-2016, 05:44 PM
Feed it a quick +12v and see if she sputters.
https://youtu.be/aJimi2dnJfk
Tach isn't working
shownomercy
08-26-2016, 06:56 PM
tachs are lame.
congrats though
Have to bleed brakes tomorrow and I hope to atleast drive it. I'm going to hold off on the clutch until everything is OK.
Ran it more today. Kept acting like it wanted to stall. Almost had it idling after giving it some gas but started seeing smoke so I killed it. Think it mightve been coolant that splashed
Car won't idle, backfires on startup. Drivers side header isn't hot vs passenger side is hot.
Missing a little.
I'm changing the plugs and wires because I have a strong feeling it's part of the issue.
Sounds fuckin gnarly though lol
https://youtu.be/QfWukrBd6uM
shownomercy
08-27-2016, 07:25 PM
Your harley sounds pretty good
popo8
08-27-2016, 10:09 PM
Check ur oil and make sure its not adding 2 much fuel. Last thing u want is to wash out and have to do a full build.
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True. I'm pulling the plugs tonorrow when I get off work and replacing the wires when they come in
7/8 fouled out. Making new wires now.
Also bought an aem wideband
shownomercy
08-29-2016, 07:36 PM
What was wrong with the wires?
You have injectors and coils correctly swapped?
I'll try the existing wires tomorrow and see if it gets better.
What do you mean by are the coils and injectors correctly swapped. There's only one way for the coils to go on. I fouled them out being stupid and not running it long enough.
I'll run it tomorrow and see how it runs and decide if I will replace the wires.
Day 2 of the car running.
Put 12.5 gallons of fresh gas in it. Fuel gauge works.
Running it open y pipe until Friday when I have time to disconnect the intermediate pipe and hook it all up.
It's loud as fuck
Sounds great though. The neighbors love me even more.
Only problem I'm having is no tach and the speedo is off about 5.
Abs doesn't work due to the 24x, but the fucking brakes work.
I haven't changed out the clutch yet. It's not even blowing past the clutch. I'm guessing it's been replaced and isn't stock because it holds the power to what I think is 6k.
Idk,im so fucking happy. The power is just wicked fun. Lloyd is the MAN
Also the belt is slipping or I have a bad bearing in a pulley. And I have to put the front sway bar on.
https://youtu.be/lVLpOmyi9g4
Car has a slight miss and I blew the header gaskets. Replacing those and made new wireshttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160917/102ea0963ab728abab830ad39eabba08.jpg
Formula218
09-17-2016, 06:55 AM
Why do you have to keep making wires? are off the shelf LS wires too short with your valve covers?
Off the shelf ls wires have 180 degree boots on the spark plug and they don't clear my headers
Car idles a lot nicer now.
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It's still a mess under the hood but I'll be fixing it Monday.
popo8
09-18-2016, 05:06 AM
What is that blue wire just running across the top of the engine?
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popo8
09-18-2016, 10:38 AM
That little thing? And why is it just drapped across the motor. This is what the guys were warning u bout earlier. If u dont clean up the wiring during the build... u prob never will.
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I'm doing it Monday after class I promise :)
Catmaigne
09-18-2016, 06:52 PM
Not nearly as bad as me with my EWP connected with alligator clips. Worked fine until I forgot to unplug it and it killed my battery lol.
How much hp does a pink intake make vs red?
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Pink intake adds tree point fiddy fo.
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So let's discuss why my tach isn't work. When I was driving home from work the needle moved off zero for a split second then stayed back on it. If you folks remember i put a shift light in and that's not reading either. I check the wiring down at the kick panel on the passenger side and it appears to be intact.
When I fix up my harness tomorrow I'll double check it.
I am getting a rpm reading from the pcm via scan tool
shownomercy
09-19-2016, 08:12 AM
You prob grabbed tach signal from the wrong wire if you left it hooked up the same as an LT1.
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Exhaust is back on and no more headers and y pipe slamming the floor boards lol.
I have a turndown for it that will be painted pink when I grt it to fit. I also have started on the wiring.
I still have a huge smile on my face when I fire it up and pop that clutch. Lloyd is the man!!
https://youtu.be/L3_L9oSWdtM
It's so much better now.
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Catmaigne
09-20-2016, 09:39 PM
alomst... oh my lexdysia
You know I never noticed that hahaha
Formula218
09-21-2016, 10:16 AM
Guys who can't spell probably shouldn't get into the sticker making business lol
Sounds good!
You know I never noticed that hahaha
That's so f'n funny!
popo8
09-22-2016, 03:31 PM
Hhahahahah... im fukin dying over here. How do u miss that Dan?!?!?!
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harner
09-22-2016, 03:35 PM
Guys who can't spell probably shouldn't get into the sticker making business lol
Sounds good!
Or the tattoo business!
Alright so I got the sticker from a friend lol. We didn't notice it until I was looking at the pictures from our little photo shoot and I noticed it then. It was a sticker from a huge meet in Michigan and there was like 3500 of these made. I'm going to leave it on just for laughs.
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09-22-2016, 05:26 PM
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dawdaw
09-22-2016, 06:48 PM
So u ready to run 13s now? Tick tock gramps will be dusting his old hairy balls off soon, you will have to take me and jim down,
I'll be going to Lapeer this Sunday dawdaw I think.
And hell naw I won't be running 13s. I'm gonna be 14s forever!
dawdaw
09-22-2016, 07:23 PM
What time? I will actually be literally 1 mile due north of you at the "pit" . Its a DNR shooting range.
I lied, I might not be able to go. I thought the rules were 12.99 and faster were requirements for a driveshaft safety loop, not 13.99.
Just ordered one from summit, with my luck it should be here Saturday.
If I go though it'll be around noon
Formula218
09-22-2016, 08:47 PM
Ain't nobody checking for that shit, you're good. If you had slicks if might be a concern but on street tires or DRs you'll be fine.
Camaro96
09-22-2016, 09:52 PM
Ain't nobody checking for that shit, you're good. If you had slicks if might be a concern but on street tires or DRs you'll be fine.
Your right ain't nobody checking that shit till you break it and send it into the stands.
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Catmaigne
09-22-2016, 10:48 PM
Tech inspection only seemed to care if my battery was bolted down lol
When I went to ubly with Kyle, I don't believe they even looked at my car. Just checked for a seat belt.
Summit might be coming through and FedEx says it'll be here today(friday)
shownomercy
09-23-2016, 07:30 AM
I have yet to have anyone tech my car :( Should have made the bar out of PVC
Formula218
09-23-2016, 07:34 AM
Your right ain't nobody checking that shit till you break it and send it into the stands.
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How often does that happen with little power and street tires?
Camaro96
09-23-2016, 08:21 AM
How often does that happen with little power and street tires?
Not often I have only seen it with such little power. Drive shafts fail often and I have seen a front yoke twist off and buirre the the front of the drive shaft into the ground and lift the rear of the car off the ground and shoot the drive shaft out to the side of the car 150 ft or so. It put sever dents into the floor of the car and ruined the rear end destroyed 50 to 100 ft of asphalt.
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popo8
09-23-2016, 09:29 AM
I'll be going to Lapeer this Sunday @dawdaw (http://ltxtech.com/forums/member.php?u=4087) I think.
And hell naw I won't be running 13s. I'm gonna be 14s forever!
You better run 13s. My heavy Impala runs 13s with like 2.08 gears.
popo8
09-23-2016, 09:30 AM
Ain't nobody checking for that shit, you're good. If you had slicks if might be a concern but on street tires or DRs you'll be fine.
Hes right^^^
popo8
09-23-2016, 09:31 AM
I have yet to have anyone tech my car :( Should have made the bar out of PVC
I had a hoop in my old 92 bird made out of PVC. Lol. covered it with red nerf, and when I had the Ttopes off... I was RACECAR
SSlowBoat
09-23-2016, 01:09 PM
I had a hoop in my old 92 bird made out of PVC. Lol. covered it with red nerf, and when I had the Ttopes off... I was RACECAR
Old school ricer
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dawdaw
09-23-2016, 01:14 PM
I know safety is always a concern but I really wouldn't be too concerned with your car. You're probably only making about a 150 wheel horsepower anyways. I'd be Concerned about the Motor coughing a rod through the side of the block And getting oil on Gramps
Bring gramps out dawdaw.
Debating if i should bring my radials or not. I have a college shootout next weekend too at Milan
And I got called into work tomorrow yay. I'll post times next weekend when I go to Milan
Went sideways down the highway yesterday morning on my way to school. Raining a fuck ton.
Car has a miss under load, mainly at low rpm and in 4,5,6. As soon as you mash the pedal it will hesitate for a second and then it comes back alive. I don't know if it's due to there being an error code P0332 which is bank 2 knock sensor low input.
Other than a little oil leak and a squeaky belt.
But it's still running great. Changing the oil Friday and replacing a couple wires that had dinner with the primaries and throwing a new set of plugs in while I'm at it. I've already put 600 miles on it
Afr gauge is in and rigged up until 6le ships a gauge holder that goes in the AC vents. I ordered it on the first and still haven't gotten it. Emailed him and he said there was a shipping problem.
Afr is gud. Tune is gud. Trying out a different muffler tomorrow too.
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shownomercy
09-27-2016, 01:56 PM
You have two KS bro?
shownomercy
09-27-2016, 05:43 PM
That pesky bank two KS though?
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Put my black widow muffler on yesterday in between classes.
The big thing about them was "all tone no drone". The dynomax droned like fucking hell and I got tired of it really fast. This morning was the first time I drove the car with the windows up in a year. The drone is almost gone and it sounds a little better albeit mostly the same.
https://youtu.be/vhUiKqq0iDI
Yeah, money well spent on this muffler. The drone is almost gone, and it sounds good. I'm a happy customer
Fixed the tach. The pin was bent so it wasn't connecting to the computer. It's reading 650 rpm at idle though so it's off.
shownomercy
10-05-2016, 06:16 PM
Gonna put a down turn and or hanger on dat der muffler?
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Turn down fer wot
I take it back, tach doesn't work. It doesn't even read above 1000 until I'm at 4k+
Formula218
10-07-2016, 05:18 AM
Were the tach signals changed in the ECM to to work with the LT gauges? I seem to remember having a problem like this after my swap and it was something about how the signal is sent to the gauges being different for pre and post '98. I wonder if this has to be done in yours too since you've got a LS ECM now.
That's what I was thinking. I'm going to have a local guy fix it. Wish I could have it fixed for tomorrow but I guess not
Couldn't get the driveshaft safety loop on. I got the lower cross member portion but couldn't get the whole loop. My torque arm is in the way and it's bent too.
Lol damn my suspension is top notch
But Milan at 9 am tomorrow. Will be sure to upload slips. Not going for anything crazy. It's bracket racing
popo8
10-08-2016, 06:12 AM
Couldn't get the driveshaft safety loop on. I got the lower cross member portion but couldn't get the whole loop. My torque arm is in the way and it's bent too.
Lol damn my suspension is top notch
But Milan at 9 am tomorrow. Will be sure to upload slips. Not going for anything crazy. It's bracket racing
Have fun. Try to do some videos if u have a go pro or even a clip for ur phone. I would just clip mine to the sunvisor.
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First run. It's bad I know. I'm shaking like a mofo lol. Just nervous trying not to break it. I'm on teh left. I'm guessing when to shift too. Soo
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popo8
10-08-2016, 06:04 PM
Are u 6spd?
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Formula218
10-09-2016, 06:48 AM
NICE! Not far off from where I was last year. Looks like you need some slightly stickier tires to get that 60ft down.
Phone died last night and I fell asleep.
Best run was a 13.6. Tires spinning on launch. I think once I replaced my torque arm and LCAs, it should help.
For a mail order base tune, getting mid 26 mpg on the highway, I can't complain.
I'll try and get more runs in under my belt. I'll have videos to post later.
Formula218
10-09-2016, 02:09 PM
time for a sig update!
https://youtu.be/20wPwp3kB2g
Lost to 5th gen
https://youtu.be/S57XkE5q5Jc
The other camaro was supposedly a stroked lt4 with ported heads and hot cam. I dunno it ran a 14.4 I think. It was an auto too.
popo8
10-12-2016, 05:11 AM
https://youtu.be/20wPwp3kB2g
Lost to 5th gen
https://youtu.be/S57XkE5q5Jc
The other camaro was supposedly a stroked lt4 with ported heads and hot cam. I dunno it ran a 14.4 I think. It was an auto too.
Looked like u were sleeping at the tree.
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I was leaving on green because I didn't want to risk red lighting and DQing
popo8
10-12-2016, 06:07 AM
I was leaving on green because I didn't want to risk red lighting and DQing
Yeah... thats way 2 late. U should be reacting to the third yellow.
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shownomercy
10-12-2016, 06:24 AM
You are trapping under a 100mph in a six speed car that is cammed, bolt ons, and tuned...?
popo8
10-12-2016, 06:32 AM
You are trapping under a 100mph in a six speed car that is cammed, bolt ons, and tuned...?
Mail order tune iirc.
Dan are u monitoring AF ratio when WOT?
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Yeah... thats way 2 late. U should be reacting to the third yellow.
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I normally do, like I said I didn't want to DQ.
You are trapping under a 100mph in a six speed car that is cammed, bolt ons, and tuned...?
Mail order tune, stock rear suspension, wasn't pushing the car to full potential. I didn't want the car to end up on the gurney for the trip home. And I trapped 104 boi
Mail order tune iirc.
Dan are u monitoring AF ratio when WOT?
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Yes. It's 12.8-13.3
popo8
10-12-2016, 06:40 AM
If ur leavin on the third yellow properly u wont "dq." Thats how u get a good rt. And in bracket racing thats the difference btwn winning and losing.
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I understand that. This was my first visit this year and I was nervous as hell about breaking something and wanted to do good for my school. But when I go back I'll give ya'll a 12 second run ;)
I'm starting my list of winter mods as it's getting cold as hell in the mornings here and it reminds me of winter.
So far on the list is:
True duals
Ported intake
Yanking the harness and making it even more beautiful
Clutch
And might entertain a 8.8 or 9inch rear end
Formula218
10-12-2016, 09:45 AM
Were those filmed with a burning samsung phone?
Nice runs!
FASHOOTER
10-17-2016, 07:12 PM
Didn't want to break anything huh? Now u know why I trailer my car to the track. Even street cars can ride on a trailer!!
popo8
10-17-2016, 09:11 PM
Rear end should be ur first on the list of mods...
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Didn't want to break anything huh? Now u know why I trailer my car to the track. Even street cars can ride on a trailer!!
My car has a higher chance of breaking!
Rear end should be ur first on the list of mods...
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