View Full Version : New bootlegger can by lunati vs cc503
93blkz28
02-20-2015, 10:33 PM
I need opinions on these two. Street ability mostly.
Thank you.
Cc503 specs:
cc503:
(224/230 .537/.544 112lsa) w/ 1.6RR's
Bootlegger by lunati.
XXX08224HR specs:
(276/300 .554/.554 108lsa) w/ 1.5 stock ratio
Madman337
02-21-2015, 04:08 AM
Without more info I would say the CC503 would be more street friendly. I will assume the cam will be going in to your 93 right?
You will need a tune and if properly tuned then the difference between tuned and non tuned will make a difference no matter what cam you want and also what else is going to go along with it?
Need more info please.
englundjd
02-21-2015, 11:03 AM
we need the duration @.050 not the advertised duration on the lunati cam so we can compare.... because i'm to lazy to look it up via part number...
We also need to know a little more about the details of the engine, like:
1 What cubic inch is it?
2 What will the compression ratio be?
3 What supporting mods do you have?
4 Are you planning on having your heads ported someday down the road?
5 How much rpm are you comfortable with?
6 What do you consider streetable? Some people drive huge solid roller cam cars on the street and some don't like the lope of a cam... a lot of this is personal preference.
7 What are you going to use it for? (dd/weekend toy/racer/etc.)
93blkz28
02-21-2015, 01:38 PM
Yes it will be going into the 93.
I'll be getting a tune.
I have 1.6 full rollers and these springs
http://www.jegs.com/i/Crane-Cams/271/10308-1/10002/-1
Long tube headers. X pipe dumped.
Stock ratio compression.
350 cubic inches.
I am buying afr 180s soon.
Comfortable with a max 6500 rpm.
Street able to me is
Enough vacuum pressure to have good heat and braking power.
It's my daily driver.
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224 int./236 exh. On the bootlegger cam
Thanks for the replies :•]
bustedassz28
02-21-2015, 07:37 PM
Ive got about the same mods as you, plus a 3600 stall converter, fwiw i just ordered an le cam 227/235, and he said it would be fine on the street with good power throughout the rpm range, as i specifically told him its a street/ strip car but i didnt want to be miserable driving it on weekends or to work....hope this helps ya
bustedassz28
02-21-2015, 07:39 PM
Oh, and i'd call lloyd before making a purchase, this guy knows his shit and couldnt be any more helpful
93blkz28
02-21-2015, 07:50 PM
Thank you for your input busted :•]
I'll look into that right now
Madman337
02-21-2015, 11:05 PM
Yes it will be going into the 93.
I'll be getting a tune.
I have 1.6 full rollers and these springs
http://www.jegs.com/i/Crane-Cams/271/10308-1/10002/-1
Long tube headers. X pipe dumped.
Stock ratio compression.
350 cubic inches.
I am buying afr 180s soon.
Comfortable with a max 6500 rpm.
Street able to me is
Enough vacuum pressure to have good heat and braking power.
It's my daily driver.
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224 int./236 exh. On the bootlegger cam
Thanks for the replies :•]
I look forward to seeing how it all works out fpr you and Xs2 on talking to Lloyd. I want to do the same thing with my swap using a 125k 1997 setup out pf my donor but keeping all the 1993 pcm ect.
I am kinda set on Lloyds LE1 package so maybe he can set up something for you too?
Keep us informed cause I love the 93s and I am always interested in a build for one of them.
NightTrain66
02-23-2015, 06:15 PM
93blkZ28,
is the car auto or 6 speed?
If auto, what stall?
The Bootlegger uses a VERY aggressive int lobe and a SLOW and lazy exhaust lobe on a 108 LSA.
The only good part about it would be the 108 LSA (assuming you ant a choppy idl and have a 6 speed or 3600 stall to work with the 108 LSA).
The int lobe is HARD on springs and the ex lobes are wasting a lot of power compared to what a better lobe would do.
Bootlegger is Lunatis version of the Comp Thumper cam.
They are made to cruise thru the parking lot with a choppy idle and turn heads but making HP is more the Voodoo or XFI series cams.
The Thumper lobes are easier on valve trane part than the Bootlegger int lobe.
The int lobe for the Bootlegger cam is not meant tyo be taken about 6000-6200 RPM, even with GOOD springs. It will just east the springs up. The lobe is just a lil too "square" to see high RPM and have the springs live. I am sure thats fine for the guy that the Thumper and Bootlegger cams were designed for as they cruise the parking lot and car shows and have that choppy idle with never really getting on the car much and not taking it past 5500 RPM.
Lloyd
bustedassz28
03-04-2015, 05:58 AM
So... did ya pick a cam yet???
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