I guess I will play to. WHP numbers?

[SwampWS6]

Well mostly everything is in my sig as far as specs goes. I am going to the dyno in a month or so and would like for your gestimates. This is my 1st build so I extremely excited into seeing what it will do. Heres a basic run down:

383ci
LE TFS 215cc
LE ported intake
LE 226/226 565/565 114LSA
Moser 12 bolt 3.42s
TH400
billet S480
Gate set on 8lbs
10:5 CR
ID1300 sticks w/E85

Ask if you need more details.

[blackbirdws6]

Shot in the dark but maybe 500rwhp on 8 lbs.

[firebird_1995]

Looking at a max of 550-600ish on those injectors at base pressure. Keep an eye on your duty cycle and crank the pressure up if you have to. Looking forward to the results

[dawdaw]

Yeah^^^ I highly doubt those 80s Are going to cut it on e85... like chris said raise the pressure on them to 4 bar to start out.

My shot in the dark, 537/611

[SwampWS6]

Thanks guys. So I am happy with hopefully being able to hit 500rwhp on at least 8#s. But like stated above, I have came to the conclusion that 80#ers will fall shy of the hp I need. So should I go for 96#ers or should I do 120#ers? I can try to see if someone is interested in them and try to upgrade them while I can.

[firebird_1995]

What's your end power goal?

[SwampWS6]

At least close to 800rwhp. Something where i could get into the 9s

[Ryan Stout]

Crank the base up to 60 if the pumps will let ya without killing flow.

545.

[SwampWS6]

Will 96lbers be enough to get close to 700rwhp? Last thing I want is to be short on injector. In the process of getting rid of the 80lbers

[GuillaumeC]

592 whp @ 8 psi :)

[dawdaw]

Will 96lbers be enough to get close to 700rwhp? Last thing I want is to be short on injector. In the process of getting rid of the 80lbers


talk to your tuner... if he's a decent tuner and tuned a fair share of boosted cars he should be able to point you in the right direction on sizing.... the 80 will probably work on 8lbs ... turning it up to 4 bar will put that injector just a hair above 92lbs...

i'd get the correct size one's in first so you don't have to go threw getting the car tuned twice.. would suck to have to find out you ain't got enough injector...

if i were to guess your'e looking at 120's but do not take my advice, call your tuner!

[shownomercy]

55 rail pressure with a 65psi rise assuming 1:1 and 10psi of boost gets you 80% DC on 80# sticks with E85 and a "700whp"

I would say you will either make it, or just be a hair over "safe" area on those injectors. I say run em, pumps are cheaper than good quality high Z 120# sticks

[firebird_1995]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/06/47446c37df0fb3a222d3d5aec00d90cb.jpg

[SwampWS6]

Going to a 24x conversion. How much do you think it will affect my numbers?

[gmpowered]

You need to use a fuel injector calculator like the one posted above, but with your calculated fuel pressure.
I think 80s will run close to 700whp with your fuel pressure.

You always want more injector than you think you need.

Running 24x, will give you more drive-ability, it will give you the ability to run a custom OSmeant for boost unlike the archaic stock pcm, a tuner would likely be more comfortable running a more aggressive tune. I would guess you would gain more power under the curve and gain peak power.
I wouldn't swap for a power gain so much as reliability tunability. Getting misfires(opti) under boost will end your fun fast.

[SwampWS6]

I am currently searching for 1000cc injectors right now. I have sold the 80s , so they are non existent. The whole opti deal is really making me think. The 24x will allow me more room for error. And like you said it will allow me to run a more aggressive tune and gain more power under the curve and also make peak hp. The more power I make the deeper I could get in the 10s. May even break into the 9s if I try hard enough (which I will).

[GuillaumeC]

24x sensor kit with Holley Dominator EFI for LS1 would be perfect :D

[SwampWS6]

24x sensor kit with Holley Dominator EFI for LS1 would be perfect :D

LMAO pockets not even fat enough. They on a mean ass unforgiving diet right now. Lol :laugh:

[shownomercy]

Here ya go, have fun with dem billz...

http://injectordynamics.com/injectors/id1000/

[SwampWS6]

Here ya go, have fun with dem billz...

http://injectordynamics.com/injectors/id1000/

Ha. Yea I know about those guys. I can get a slightly used set for $700 right now. Trying to figure out if I wanna bite that bullet

[fullforce]

600whp

[MoeHorsePower]

The 24x will allow me more room for error. And like you said it will allow me to run a more aggressive tune and gain more power under the curve and also make peak hp. .


Really? I would like to know How can you think you can run a more aggressive tune with the 24x and not the stock pcm?

[gmpowered]

Really? I would like to know How can you think you can run a more aggressive tune with the 24x and not the stock pcm?

I definitely run a more aggressive tune with my 24x.
AFR is always where I want it, pcm calculates environmental conditions more than stock(you can leave some burst knock as one example (,its calculations if set up properly fuel and time correctly open or closed loop) and more resolution helped me get my timing where I wanted it. The availability of an alcohol sensors is also a huge plus.
The availability to run two tunes on the same pcm, n20, boost good gas bad gas race/Street. Ect

Running a colder plug or more gap without blowout is also an advantage I've noticed, I've run more gap and noticed sotp gain upper rpm smoothness, but that's just my personal experience.

[Catmaigne]

I think RTT would take out a lot of the guesswork

[gmpowered]

I think RTT would take out a lot of the guesswork

Rtt made it stupid easy for me, with no data or other solid tunes to look at for reference.

The other thing I like is the injector timing, with radically different cam or head designs you can spray fuel on the valve for better atomation, change the power.curve slighlty or pass emissions easier with a larger cam ect ect ect.

[96famaro]

I run 160lb bosch fic on e85 and work really good. Its not easy to max those out too easily. Car drives around town running errands no problem on speed density tune 24x connection.

[harner]

SwampWS6 updates!

[SwampWS6]

Give me a sec. I'll update tonight

[SwampWS6]

Well hopefully I will have numbers on or after the 16th of this month. I had issues last time at the dyno and didnt get to make any pulls. So wish me luck again this time around. Really nervous right now...

[SwampWS6]

I have also added ID1300 injectors, full suspension, Moser 12 bolt and CO2 to the mix. So I am trying to hit 20lbs on E98 fuel. Its crazy how things have changed since I started this thread!

[blown383ta]

Well?

[SwampWS6]

Well?

http://ltxtech.com/forums/showthread.php?30790-Went-to-dyno-now-I-have-more-work-to-do