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popo8
01-01-2015, 10:30 PM
2 more officers shot. What was found is even more shocking...

http://www.wvnstv.com/story/27744097/two-officers-shot-in-lewiswburg-wv-searching-for-red-pick-up

95albinobird
01-02-2015, 01:41 AM
just saw it on the news.........WTF
i say all the police should call in sick for about 2 may b 3 days then everyone will STFU and get behind them.

popo8
01-02-2015, 09:46 AM
http://www.wvnstv.com/story/27744097/two-officers-shot-in-lewiswburg-wv-searching-for-red-pick-up

Madman337
01-03-2015, 12:30 AM
just saw it on the news.........WTF
i say all the police should call in sick for about 2 may b 3 days then everyone will STFU and get behind them.


That would be nice to show everybody what it would be like without coppers on the street but there is no way all of them would just not show up for work because Police are people who care about others and they would still show up for work anyway. Thats just how people who do a job like this are, they actually care about their fellow man and couldnt stand not being out there to serve and protect. You may as well ask your neighbor to walk on his hands for the next 5 miles, could he do it? maybe but its not gonna be easy or fun.

popo8
01-03-2015, 08:34 AM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/3bd380faec72f7ae76ed50392312d82f.jpg

Flyinz
01-03-2015, 09:19 AM
And THANK YOU, for what you do everyday Larry..:)

popo8
01-03-2015, 11:07 AM
And THANK YOU, for what you do everyday Larry..:)
My pleasure. Thanku.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/2d10e9886b0f3852f0e97b79aac05889.jpg

HellTeeOne
01-03-2015, 12:31 PM
This individual case has little to do with the macro situation with police and citizen relations in this country. The actions of the cops in this case are unquestionably heroic, the perps some of the worst of the worst. I have no doubt that the vast majority of police officers in this country would have acted similarly if tasked with taking down those two criminals.

Now, onto the macro situation of police/citizen relations. The police are not the problem in this country, and all of the race-baiting and anger surrounding the issue is grossly misdirected to an uninformed public that is, by and large, only looking to point fingers at the easiest and most visible scapegoat.

The real problem originates in our legislative chambers, in the form of a multitude of laws written to favor certain interests over others. In a civil society, if police need things like heavy weaponry, no-knock warrants and armored SWAT teams to carry out law enforcement on a daily basis, things have gone horribly wrong and some of the laws in question lack genuine legitimacy.
By "genuine legitimacy", I mean most ordinary people actually thinking or believing that breaking them is a bad or immoral action or any sort of a big deal. First and foremost among these is the war on drugs. You have a structure of laws regulating personal habits, written to promote massive non-compliance, backed by extremely harsh penalties and minimum sentencing guidelines promoted by our for-profit private prison system. Add to all of this the fact that being involved in the illicit drug trade can be extremely lucrative for those willing to take the risk, and you have a recipe for pitting an entire socio-economic class of people in this country at severe odds with the police. Heck of a situation to have to deal with, especially when individual 'crimes' of drug trafficking and dealing are often somewhat victimless and the overall population is largely indifferent and swinging toward legalization in one capacity or another.

I sort of hate to be the guy that mentions it, but does anyone else notice that the war on drugs was initiated and dramatically expanded almost immediately after the Jim Crow laws were abolished?

We must take an honest look at our policies and the impact they have on our society, not police officers.

popo8
01-03-2015, 03:13 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/a4890a45b99e26a5bf340fee5b893371.jpg
One of my favororite recent memes^

HellTeeOne
01-05-2015, 11:56 AM
Yea that meme is somewhat accurate, and it's sad. I wish Al would focus his energy in a more positive and less inflammatory manner. Problem is, conflict and blood sports of ally types have been big sellers with the human race since the beginning of time, and he and the rest of the media know this. Saturation coverage and sensationalizing of police shootings is the result.
The ignorant who don't know any better then focus all of their anger on the police, both collectively and tragically, individually as we've recently seen. None of these angry people seem to know or seek the truth or the underlying root of the problem. And by committing acts of violence and vandalism, they serve only to make the divide between the citizenry and the police even worse.

The 'be the change' phrase comes to mind here. If any of these folks like Al in positions of influence and power really wanted positive change and an improvement in LEO-citizen relations, they'd be doing the exact opposite of what they're doing now. Instead of constantly inciting mass protests and riots, they'd be trying to educate their audience about the real reasons things are the way they are. And those reasons have very little to do with police officers and a whole lot more to do with a hostile legal system and vast network of state and federal code that is written to facilitate unwarranted state control over people's lives.

I'll say it again. There has been no larger direct influence on our criminal legal system in the past 100 years, than the war on dugs. It's influence is felt everywhere, from sentencing guidelines, to department budgets, micro financial regulation, police tactics, the way officers are trained, civil forfeiture, the list goes on and on. It seems a very curious coincidence to me that the war on drugs was dramatically expanded in the wake of the culmination of the achievements of the civil rights movement. As in, it seems one war replaced another. We now have by far the highest incarceration rate in the world. This isn't the fault of police, it's the fault of bad policy. It's a case in which the treatment has proven far worse than the ailment.

popo8
01-05-2015, 03:54 PM
Yea that meme is somewhat accurate, and it's sad. I wish Al would focus his energy in a more positive and less inflammatory manner. Problem is, conflict and blood sports of ally types have been big sellers with the human race since the beginning of time, and he and the rest of the media know this. Saturation coverage and sensationalizing of police shootings is the result.
The ignorant who don't know any better then focus all of their anger on the police, both collectively and tragically, individually as we've recently seen. None of these angry people seem to know or seek the truth or the underlying root of the problem. And by committing acts of violence and vandalism, they serve only to make the divide between the citizenry and the police even worse.

The 'be the change' phrase comes to mind here. If any of these folks like Al in positions of influence and power really wanted positive change and an improvement in LEO-citizen relations, they'd be doing the exact opposite of what they're doing now. Instead of constantly inciting mass protests and riots, they'd be trying to educate their audience about the real reasons things are the way they are. And those reasons have very little to do with police officers and a whole lot more to do with a hostile legal system and vast network of state and federal code that is written to facilitate unwarranted state control over people's lives.

I'll say it again. There has been no larger direct influence on our criminal legal system in the past 100 years, than the war on dugs. It's influence is felt everywhere, from sentencing guidelines, to department budgets, micro financial regulation, police tactics, the way officers are trained, civil forfeiture, the list goes on and on. It seems a very curious coincidence to me that the war on drugs was dramatically expanded in the wake of the culmination of the achievements of the civil rights movement. As in, it seems one war replaced another. We now have by far the highest incarceration rate in the world. This isn't the fault of police, it's the fault of bad policy. It's a case in which the treatment has proven far worse than the ailment.

I agreed with everything you are saying, and you speak (type) very well. If its not 2 forward, can I ask what your educational back ground is.