THE "where do/does, I/my car fit" question thread.

[popo8]

I hope u guys (new coordinators and rule makers, etc) dont mind, but i thought maybe this might help newbies who are apprehensive about racing, as well as others (like myself) that just get confused reading the rules.

(If u guys dont like it, let me know and i will remove it).

[Sahara54]

I think I'll be in Extreme Street PA but here it goes. I also plan on the bracket class too if we can run 2 classes.

355 Lt1 w/ 6.0" rods
Stock Heads - fully decked, lightly smoothed ports, no bowl work
Impy SS Gaskets - CR is close 12.2/1
CC503
Comp Ultra Pro Mags
Stock Intake w/ 52mm TB
T56
Stock style tubular suspension
QTP 9" 4.11 on DR's (In the works, not racing 750 miles from home on stock 10 bolt)
150-175 shot through Shark Nozzle.

[DMBlack]

Sahara54 Your car, as described will fit in the Extreme Street P/A, True Street, and Bracket classes. You could also run in the Extreme Street N/A class without the N2O.

[SSlowBoat]

The headliner rule for the street classes has me up in arms. It's got sunvisors all interior plastics etc, just missing headliner and really don't plan on putting one in

[Chopstix]

The headliner rule for the street classes has me up in arms. It's got sunvisors all interior plastics etc, just missing headliner and really don't plan on putting one in

I lobbied to have all of those restrictions removed as well.

[79LT1Monte]

Carbs have never been allowed in ESPA, this class was intended to be stock heads, pcm, and intake class. We are already opening it up with allowing 24x. We are doing that to fit the cars that actually come out to race, this is a hobbyist event that should be adjusted to the community that we have.

[79LT1Monte]

All the ball busting I did about you running a carb I guess I deserved that lol. The carb option is an inexpensive route to take and if we have that many people showing up to race with setups like you plan on running we will have to adjust the rules to accommodate, but as I said earlier carbs have never been allowed in Extreme Street.


The intention was to get the location, date, and rules out to everyone as quickly as possible so they have time to build their cars to fit the classes we have. The last thing we want is the drama the event has been plagued with over the past few years about rules changes. If you agree with them or not or like them or not show up and prove us wrong. We are tired of seeing car count dwindle to nothing and stepped up to do this so we all have an event that is our own to run at. We can all race other NMCA or various other events but there has only been one LTX Only event and that is what we are trying to continue on with.

[79LT1Monte]

Until the Kansas crew gets us the trademark and website information we can not move forward with that name. I hope to have progress on that this week.

[firebird_1995]

The headliner rule for the street classes has me up in arms. It's got sunvisors all interior plastics etc, just missing headliner and really don't plan on putting one in
I'm just speaking for myself here, but the idea behind requiring these things like headliners, sunvisors, mirrors, etc is to keep people from gutting their cars out. If you show up on race day and your car is missing the headliner because it's too expensive or a pita to replace. ....I'm going to throw a tarp in your back seat for the weight it's missing and I'm moving on to tech the next car. I think people are getting too hung up on the little stuff.

[firebird_1995]

We ain't looking to bust people's balls here. You roll in with a completely stripped interior, no, that ain't gonna fly. You're missing a headliner or sunvisors (I personally HATE sunvisors) we'll figure out something in the drivers meeting like we always do to make it work.

[shownomercy]

I have a new headliner and did not get new sunvisors. Hate those things.

[SSlowBoat]

We ain't looking to but people's balls here. You roll in with a completely stripped interior, no, that ain't gonna fly. You're missing a headliner or sunvisors (I personally HATE sunvisors) well figure out something in the drivers meeting like we always do to make it work.
I'll eat a few cheeseburgers to make up the weight difference lol thanks

[firebird_1995]

Try to cover it with something. Hell you're winning awards for homemade cold air intakes for crying out loud. I'm sure you can whip up something to doll that boat up. Perhaps some marine vinyl....

[Ryan Stout]

Shag carpet.

[shownomercy]

Shag carpet.

And then have a bunch of optis hanging down from it.

[SSlowBoat]

Try to cover it with something. Hell you're winning awards for homemade cold air intakes for crying out loud. I'm sure you can whip up something to doll that boat up. Perhaps some marine vinyl....
It's the camaro, the yacht has headliner

Shag carpet.
If only it was my car lol

[SSlowBoat]

And then have a bunch of optis hanging down from it.
Now taking busted msd opti donations for this.

[firebird_1995]

Now taking busted msd opti donations for this.
I got busted orielys optis.... all MSD optis currently in service though...

[SSlowBoat]

I got busted orielys optis.... all MSD optis currently in service though...
Idn how the hell that thing is working.....lol

[firebird_1995]

The cam turns a splined driveshaft connected to an arbor on the distributor. The arbor contains an optical wheel which sends signals to the pcm telling it the exact location of the cam and crank. This arbor also holds a rotor which distributes the high voltage to the individual cylinder leads on the distributor cap. It's pretty simple really

[79LT1Monte]

Funny, I would have gone with "How does the posi trac work on a Plymouth? it just does"

[popo8]

Ok... so Im going with my TA. I dont think we will have the vette done.

The TA will be on skinnies/fatties. Ill be running drag radial. Motor is stock, Trans is a CPT build, and the rear will only have 3.73s in a 10 bolt with a TA diff cover.

Im pretty sure my 14 sec car will be ok to register in:

-LTX Bracket

-True Street

-Street Stock

Am I correct?

[firebird_1995]

Yes, as long as your tire sizes fit the dimensions listed in the rules you are in.

[popo8]

Yes, as long as your tire sizes fit the dimensions listed in the rules you are in.

ok, I need to check that then. I know the rear WHEELS are 15x10s but have not picked a tire. Im waiting to see if I win the raffle. lol

[firebird_1995]

Good call lol. The odds as they stand are 1 in 33.... i can't believe more people are not getting in on this

[popo8]

THOSE ARE GREAT ODDS.

You should BUMP the thread.

[firebird_1995]

LOL I bump the facebook page everytime someone donates/registers, every Sunday I post a new post. Approximately 65% of our visitors come from ltxtech.com (I've got a site tracker installed that tells me where everyone is coming from).... i don't get it

[firebird_1995]

Yea. We get about 10 hits a day from ls1tech, about the same from ls1lt1, and about 5 from search engines. Then equal parts ltxtech.com and facebook

[shownomercy]

Gotta make a more official profile for other sites and toss some pics up.

[firebird_1995]

Yea I need to work on that. I've been a member on most of those sites at one point or another but forgot my login and/or password. I believe the reason most people are coming over from here is because they know me. I don't frequent the other boards much but I would always go there to answer a question if need be. As time goes on hopefully we can build some trust with the other sites. We will most definitely be sharing pictures and info from the event as we get them

[shownomercy]

Lemme know if you need anything, I can try to help ya on the other site.

[firebird_1995]

Thanks I appreciate that. I think we are subscribed to most of the threads started over there but I noticed the other day I didn't receive one and a question went a few days without an answer. As much as I'd like to say I had the time to browse all the sites I just dont. I'd still like to reach out to the impala forums but I also don't want to be absent from them either. That's where members like yourself come in. If you hear a little chatter, by all means, let us know and we will chime in. I appreciate what you did for us on the ls1lt1 site.

[SSlowBoat]

Im sure TubbyFormy may be a member there... maybe he can post and monitor over there.
I'll try, but if it's not about donks and 24 ' s it will get looked over alot

[popo8]

Lol. Really?

[SSlowBoat]

Lol. Really?

Yup, and the performance guys are so cookie cutter. If you don't have this cai these headers this cam then you don't know what you're doing and your posts get deleted. I caught crap for not buying super expensive headers and using $180 dollar ones.

When I get home tonight I'll post up on there.

[popo8]

Ok... without wasting my money on classes that i have no business in... ill be running a pretty much stock 94 trans am gt. The vette wont be ready. The ta will have gears... wheels amd the cpt a4 thats in it. How many classes can i run and which ones. I was looking and realized that i can enter it in lots of stuff... but some classes would just be a waste.

[79LT1Monte]

To be honest running more than one class is a bit of a pain because you don't have a ton of time between rounds to make changes or let the car cool down. You also don't get to spectate much other than from the staging lanes.

The exception of course is True Street, we go first. You make a 30 mile cruise, come back and impound for 20 minutes then make 3 back to back to back passes and then that class is over.

I would say you will have a great time and should be competitive in both Bracket and True Street and if you want to run a third class enter Street Stock for some heads up racing.

[popo8]

Ok... bracket and true street it is.

Hmmm...Heads up racing in a mid 14 sec car tho?

[firebird_1995]

Racing is always a crap shoot. On paper, yea you would be outgunned. But you know how it is, people red light, miss shifts, cars break. You never know.
I think you'll do great in bracket for sure judging by how you've done in the past with the vette. True street is an index class so if you can get her dead on 14.0 you'll do well in that one as well

[shownomercy]

Ok... bracket and true street it is.

Hmmm...Heads up racing in a mid 14 sec car tho?

Racing is still fun, you of all people should know the shootout is more than just going to win races.

[popo8]

Racing is still fun, you of all people should know the shootout is more than just going to win races.
Shit... its more than the racing... not even winning. U know how i know... cause i was there yhe last 4 out of 5 years just to support... no racing at all. I think the point ur making is misguided as if u read the question im asking i am TRYING to enter AS MANY classes as i can (meaning even more support), without having a 14 sec car running heads up agains 11 sec cars and faster (BECAUSE, no one wants to see that).

[popo8]

Racing is always a crap shoot. On paper, yea you would be outgunned. But you know how it is, people red light, miss shifts, cars break. You never know.
I think you'll do great in bracket for sure judging by how you've done in the past with the vette. True street is an index class so if you can get her dead on 14.0 you'll do well in that one as well
Bracket...absolutley. i just dont think heads up is gonna be a good place for it, even with the odds of others breaking or red lighting. Im down for as much supporting as i can...

[firebird_1995]

You've already went above and beyond that man. Sign up for True Street and bracket and kick some ass! Plus if you sign up now you are entered to win an MSD box!

[popo8]

You've already went above and beyond that man. Sign up for True Street and bracket and kick some ass! Plus if you sign up now you are entered to win an MSD box!
Thanks man.

[joshuam2790]

79LT1Monte, what classes for me?

[79LT1Monte]

@79LT1Monte (http://ltxtech.com/forums/member.php?u=873), what classes for me?

Well as long as you don't get too crazy on the cruise True Street would be a good fit for sure.

And you fit Street Stock rules and that is a heads up class.

Bracket would also be a good class for a consistent car like yours.

I am just glad you get to make it to another Shootout :D

[shownomercy]

Since there is no general question thread, I'll ask here. Can you sign up for classes on race day?

[79LT1Monte]

Since there is no general question thread, I'll ask here. Can you sign up for classes on race day?
Yes, we would prefer to have you register early if you are interested in a class so we can better plan for the number of participants.

[shownomercy]

Of course, I already signed up for teh classes I want to run, but figure if I am feeling crazy I would toss my hat in outlaw.

[79LT1Monte]

Of course, I already signed up for teh classes I want to run, but figure if I am feeling crazy I would toss my hat in outlaw.
Do it!

[popo8]

Looks like ill be runnin the TA. ALL stock... but ill be running dr and prostars... done.

[zoomo]

I keep trying to read through the rules but i have a short attention span sometimes, and its getting close so i figured i would ask and get some suggestions...i will probably only enter one class. my car has a cam and headers. i will be on street tires. debating on with or without nitrous, but probably without as i have more experience that way.

thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide

[firebird_1995]

I keep trying to read through the rules but i have a short attention span sometimes, and its getting close so i figured i would ask and get some suggestions...i will probably only enter one class. my car has a cam and headers. i will be on street tires. debating on with or without nitrous, but probably without as i have more experience that way.

thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide
Bracket and true street are your best bet