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94Blackbird
06-25-2014, 09:46 PM
1 thing first before I start
1st, my trans am isn't on the chopping block, it's just on the back burner for now. I saw a chance to make some money and get a fun daily driver out of the deal, so I jumped on it like a fat kid on ice cream. and if things work out well, I should be able to keep making money. Making more money means the TA gets finished faster.


The beginning of this tale isn't fiero related at all, it starts about 4 months ago when my truck (2001 Ram 3500 24 valve) **** it's clutch on a haul out to indianapolis for work. I'm very glad that I chose a stick shift over and automatic or else I would have been SCA_REEEWED!!! Drove from columbus ohio to indianapolis and back to eastlake ohio with no clutch pedal. Truck was down for about 2 months trying to diagnose the issue and also due to the fact that it was february and this year was a colder than average winter, which ultimately lead to a full clutch replacement. Almost needed new undies, a 400 pound transmission trying to turn turtle on the trans jack just above your head is not a fun experience!

During this time, I couldn't just take 2 months off of work, so I purchased this:
http://i.imgur.com/xL9lfmHl.jpg

That green blob you are looking at is a 1997 Oldsmobile Aurora with the 4.0 Northstar V8. This car has been nothing but a headache, began throwing codes shortly after I got it home and I finally gave up on it when it sat for 5 days while I was hauling back and forth from eastlake ohio to ft wayne indiana helping a client move a large hoard of old pontiac superduty parts. (worked 50 + hours and drove 1000 miles in 5 days. Payed good though) Got home, tried to start the car and nothing. . The engine still starts and runs fine (have to put the charger too it to get it going though), just a little stumble at idle and no white smoke/coolant smell coming from the tail pipes. Just a big electrical gremlin hiding somewhere, and the car isn't worth the effort in my opinion, as it's all ready half rotted out. So for now it sits in the yard, but will still be a part of this tale

Fast forward 2 months, and with the truck back up and running and a perfectly good 4.0 northstar sitting there doing nothing, I thought it was time to find another vehicle to drive so I could keep the miles off my truck (cars are much, much cheaper to fix than my 1 ton). So I started looking into fieros since I know 3 guys who have or had engine swapped GT's, 2 are 3800 supercharged swaps (1 auto, 1 getrag) and the other is a fuel injected 355 with a G6 6speed swap.

Well, 2 saturdays ago, I had a line on a clean 88 roller in michigan, but the guy sold it on me at the last minute, so instead I looked around and picked up these 2 Gems for 300 a piece. No way were either of these cars going to fit the bill, but I saved a lot of good parts from the crusher, even though the cars are in pretty rough shape. I almost passed on them for the simple fact that, despite what the previous owners told me, the first car loaded (the 86 SE) did not roll. At all. All 4 wheels were locked up when we started, and silly me, I didn't have a winch in the trailer at the time. So 4-4.5 hours later, the 86 is finally loaded, and the 87 didn't take all that long because it did infact roll. Still not winch though, so another 1.5-2 hours with chains and a come along and both cars where finally loaded.

A couple pics of my tow rig
http://i.imgur.com/ozk8OR9l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eOyA5aVl.jpg

The 87 GT under the silver tarp (front clip missing and interior is trashed. Some parts are salvagable, but not much)
http://i.imgur.com/HDsu8anl.jpg (http://imgur.com/HDsu8an)

The 86 SE.
http://i.imgur.com/bQjSJ1cl.jpg (http://imgur.com/bQjSJ1c)

But wait, you say, this is a tail of 4 fieros, not 2! And how does the oldsmobile factor into all of this!

Well, if you have a little more patience, I was just getting to that part. This past sunday I hoofed out from cleveland ohio to a town about a half hour north of louisville KY, and picked up the other 2, well, really 1.5 fieros, both 88 GT's. I had a winch this time, and you will see why it came in handy that I forced myself to work all afternoon on saturday and late into the night to get this thing mounted and wired up. The .5 would have had to stay had I not had that sucker.

Get on with it you say, I'm here for the cars, not to watch some guy have diarrhia of the mouth. Alright, alright, here are the newest additions to my flock of fieros.

The running driving 88GT #7532 off the line. It's rough, but it's mostly there.
http://i.imgur.com/xtsg6mLl.jpg

This car is going to be my daily driver for awhile. When the other car is finished, then this one will be restored/restomoded and will likely have to find a new home so it doesn't become a poor neglected yard ornament. You will understand why I say this once you have made it through the next part.

The other 88 (#21426 of the line) is in pretty sorry shape. This part of the story is a little heart breaking, the previous owner had just finished putting the car together, then 2 weeks go by and he is rear ended buy a drugged up chick in a bottom of the line saturn (you know the ones, look like they have a heavily slopped caveman brow), ripping the rear half of the car completely off. But there are enough good parts left on the front half of the car and the back half of the 87 to resurrect this car and make it most of the way right again.

http://i.imgur.com/fJ2Z3X9l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WAE3IQMl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QirWflbl.jpg


But wait, you say, what's that green blob at the beginning got to do with any of this? Well, since you've been patient enough with my rambling to read this far, I'll tell you. If you haven't guessed the logical conclusion that is. Which if you have, good on you! You win an internets!
The car that is being resurrected will receive the 4.0 V8 after a thorough rebuild and a few small mods to increase power output and improve reliability. I'm going to be building a carburetor manifold for the engine and I'm pretty sure I have the distributor figured out (saw some pics of a blown northstar that had a distributor on it) This will be mated to a Getrag 5 speed, and the car will be tastefully modified to my liking. There is also a possibility that the car may be turbocharged in the future, but that has yet to be determined. This one needs reliability over power, at least for the moment (I know, I know, a NORTHSTAR? Reliable? Well, yes, if you follow the proper maintenance procedures. The one in the donor car has over 250,000 miles on it and has definitely never been opened up before so there! :P Plus, if this one shits on me, there are plenty more out there for decent prices. Rinse and repeat.)

Fastbird
06-25-2014, 11:18 PM
I'm jealous. I'd LOVE to do an 86-88 Fastback Fiero GT build! But never, NEVER, EVER ever ever ever! Would I do a Northstar in it. The motor is just too damn finicky, and considering LS's have been done plenty, a 5.3 would be cheap and easier. Just my $.02.

PLEASE keep posting up about this. I love me some Fiero V8 swap stuff though.

94Blackbird
06-25-2014, 11:35 PM
I'm jealous. I'd LOVE to do an 86-88 Fastback Fiero GT build! But never, NEVER, EVER ever ever ever! Would I do a Northstar in it. The motor is just too damn finicky, and considering LS's have been done plenty, a 5.3 would be cheap and easier. Just my $.02.

PLEASE keep posting up about this. I love me some Fiero V8 swap stuff though.

I will certainly keep everyone posted, but I want to do something a little different, and the northstar will bolt up to the fiero trans with no adapter needed. Plus I think a carbureted DOHV screamer will be pretty sick.

SS RRR
06-26-2014, 03:04 AM
This Fiero build is just plain ill:

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/886893-ls7-fiero-swap.html

Fastbird
06-26-2014, 04:05 AM
This Fiero build is just plain ill:

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/886893-ls7-fiero-swap.html

SIIIIIIIIIICK!!!!! Like the NSX headlights they grafted in too! Gawd, you guys need to quit posting these. Gonna make me pull the trigger one day. 5.3 turbo Fiero anyone? :D

jaysz2893
06-26-2014, 05:11 AM
oh noes, I cant see the pics.. I do love Fiero's and have toyed around with a few ideas for one someday.

popo8
06-26-2014, 07:01 AM
Im subscribed James... but I have been for a while now ;)

Always loved fiero gts... never acted on it oit of concern of fitting in one. Cant wait to see what u do up here...esp working with whatbu already have in ur possession.

94Blackbird
06-26-2014, 05:37 PM
Im subscribed James... but I have been for a while now ;)

Always loved fiero gts... never acted on it oit of concern of fitting in one. Cant wait to see what u do up here...esp working with whatbu already have in ur possession.

They are suprisingly roomy on the inside. Not like huge roomy, but I fit in one alright. Probably not something I would road trip in too often.

popo8
06-26-2014, 06:28 PM
Thats what I heard as well when I was lookin for one to do the lt swap... sat in a gt at the garage and I didnt fit. Im 6'4" 240ish...

Fastbird
06-26-2014, 06:42 PM
That's surprising Larry.....I'm bigger than you and found it completely tolerable.

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SJx408
06-26-2014, 07:25 PM
I like your writing style, it's intriguing and expressive. Nice set of fieros, im definitely interested to see where this goes.

popo8
06-26-2014, 07:47 PM
That's surprising Larry.....I'm bigger than you and found it completely tolerable.

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Guess it depends on where ur bigger.

My knees peg against the dash and I have to lean to the center cause shoulder is against the side.

Fastbird
06-26-2014, 07:51 PM
Guess it depends on where ur bigger.

My knees peg against the dash and I have to lean to the center cause shoulder is against the side.

Whatchu sayin? :D

popo8
06-26-2014, 07:52 PM
Lol... im just saying there are different defs of "bigger."

94Blackbird
06-26-2014, 10:11 PM
Thats what I heard as well when I was lookin for one to do the lt swap... sat in a gt at the garage and I didnt fit. Im 6'4" 240ish...

That's weird, I can push the seat back far enough to where I almost can't reach the pedals.

popo8
06-26-2014, 10:35 PM
Guess im longer than u

JCzNova
06-26-2014, 10:41 PM
Guess im longer than u

:laugh:

popo8
06-26-2014, 10:42 PM
Thanku... ill be here all night. Lol

94Blackbird
06-28-2014, 08:49 PM
Found out today why the previous owner of the running 88 couldn't get the thing to quit running rich. He put an electronically controlled carb on the engine without the computer to run the A/F mix solenoid.

Sahara54
06-28-2014, 09:20 PM
That'll do it. Do you have the correct carb in your cashe of parts.

Fastbird
06-28-2014, 09:20 PM
Lmao, nice.

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94Blackbird
06-28-2014, 09:30 PM
That'll do it. Do you have the correct carb in your cashe of parts.

No, v6 fieros are all efi. The guy got the car in pretty sorry shape and decided to throw a carb on it. I imagine that he went to the junk yard and pulled the first carb off a 2.8 s10 he found. I don't think he even knows the electronic carbs exist.

94Blackbird
06-28-2014, 10:06 PM
Lmao, nice.

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You should see the throttle return he rigged up. It works, but holy hillbilly batman. 2 random ass springs and a ziptie to anchor the other end to the upper engine mount

LT1RUNNER
06-28-2014, 11:25 PM
That was one of the coolest stories I've read in a while. Didn't know at the time but those fieros with the v6 were quick. Good luck.

94Blackbird
07-05-2014, 11:21 PM
Whelp, the fiero build is slowly getting out of hand, but not like my TA. It is going to be re-bodied, but not like anything currently out there for fiero kit cars. It's also going to be convertible. It's up in the air right now as to whether I'll stick with the 4t80e or swap out for the 5 speed, but I have time. have to get the chassis together first, hopefully in the next month or so I'll have it fully mocked up and ready to start welding.

Fastbird
07-06-2014, 12:18 AM
Oh, this sounds good.

popo8
11-10-2014, 05:45 AM
What happened with this James?

popo8
10-06-2015, 11:52 PM
Hey man... update???

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popo8
02-05-2016, 10:09 PM
Any updates on this venture and the pre made race cars?

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