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Fastbird
03-31-2014, 07:33 PM
Does it NEED to remain routed as stock, I.E. coming vertical up off that banjo bolt? I ask because I'm considering rerouting it to hide it while I have things apart, and if I could get away with it that would be grand. But I don't want to fubar things if it's routed like it is for evaporative evacuation purposes.

firebird_1995
03-31-2014, 07:41 PM
As long as you don't create any traps you can reroute it. In the past I have retapped the heads for a 3/8 npt and ran an fittings back to the radiator.

shownomercy
03-31-2014, 07:47 PM
I have done three setups now with AN fittings to replace all the steam pipe BS, no overheating issues whatsoever.

Fastbird
03-31-2014, 07:50 PM
I have done three setups now with AN fittings to replace all the steam pipe BS, no overheating issues whatsoever.

How did you route it? I'm thinking of taking mine over the strut tower and back around to "disappear it" so to say.

shownomercy
03-31-2014, 07:52 PM
How did you route it? I'm thinking of taking mine over the strut tower and back around to "disappear it" so to say.

All done basically same route as stock, but I would think as long as you don't go that much higher than radiator port, you should be fine.

firebird_1995
03-31-2014, 08:07 PM
As long as you don't rise up above the inlet of the radiator you will be fine. I'm thinking above the strut tower then back down to tie into the radiator is going to trap air.

Yea what he said ^^^

shownomercy
03-31-2014, 08:11 PM
Run it down under the PCM area, and then into wheel well and up to radiator should work.

BUT,thats a lot of area for hoses to chafe, break, or burst.. all in front of your tire, not the best situation.

SSlowBoat
03-31-2014, 08:24 PM
i doubt it will trap air since its a pressurized system. maybe on initial fill, but with an electric pump i dont see this as a problem.

firebird_1995
03-31-2014, 09:36 PM
i doubt it will trap air since its a pressurized system. maybe on initial fill, but with an electric pump i dont see this as a problem.

I'm gonna pick on you since you're an HVAC guy.... what do you find at the top of a condenser coil that has air in the system?

SSlowBoat
03-31-2014, 09:40 PM
No traps

firebird_1995
03-31-2014, 11:02 PM
if what you were saying was true, we would never get condenser water to the tops of some cooling towers if a slight trap was a issue....also, refrigerant lines, inverted traps at the tops of risers?

Your condenser water will go as far as your pump will push it. If you have AIR in your condenser cooling water, its going to the highest point in that system or wherever it becomes trapped and the velocity of water can no longer push the air through the trap.
If you are referring to inverted traps in suction lines (which is the only place I've ever see them used) then you are on the VAPOR side of the system which is going to draw any AIR or non condensable into the compressor, into the condenser where it will will find its home at the top of the condenser, and reduce system capacity. So what I'm saying is true.

SSlowBoat
03-31-2014, 11:09 PM
yeah, youre right. im tired, didnt realize what i had said was as backwards as it could be

firebird_1995
03-31-2014, 11:51 PM
Sorry to muck up your thread sean. Clean it up as you see fit

Fastbird
04-01-2014, 08:26 AM
No it's all good, good reading. So what I was initially thinking seems to be the consensus too. Don't take it higher than the fitting on the radiator and it should be fine. Just something else for me to look at. I'm just sick of that damn steam pipe always being in the way.