To Truck or not to Truck?

[Jayz28]

Found an awesome truck at a car lot in wv. Was wondering what you guys think of it before I buy.

11' silverado
37k miles
Extended Cab
37x12.50 nittos with 30% left
18" wheels
6" lift
$25,500

It has small damage on the rear bumper, some scratches, tires will need replaced soon, speedo is off and wheels touch inner fenders when turned hard.

My question is, is there any problems I may run into with such a big lift? What will wear out? I know the tires are gonna be expensive.

And do you think its a good deal?



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[SSlowBoat]

if its a 1500, transmission with that much rolling mass. also, from a few lifted newer silverado guys i know, they have said they wear out the front control arm bushings, u joints and such quickly with that much lift. food for thought.

but, if i had the cash, id buy it. thats like my dream truck lol

[popo8]

I have no constructive info for u at all...


but...



its bad ass tho!!!

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[Jayz28]

if its a 1500, transmission with that much rolling mass. also, from a few lifted newer silverado guys i know, they have said they wear out the front control arm bushings, u joints and such quickly with that much lift. food for thought.

but, if i had the cash, id buy it. thats like my dream truck lol

Interesting. Thanks for the information. I like the truck too. They can get my payment down around 400. So I'm just seeing if it's worth it before I buy. I think its awesome. Super clean.


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[Jayz28]

I have no constructive info for u at all...


but...



its bad ass tho!!!

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LOL yea it's pretty badass. Black silverado pulling a black Z28, oh yea!!!!


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[SSlowBoat]

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my buddy that owns this said do it. if it helps any lol

[Jayz28]

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my buddy that owns this said do it. if it helps any lol

That is an awesome paint job!!!!!

It would suck to buy a cool truck and transmission go out lol.


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[SSlowBoat]

That is an awesome paint job!!!!!

It would suck to buy a cool truck and transmission go out lol.


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have cahall take care of it. or dont beat on it bad

[Jayz28]

have cahall take care of it. or dont beat on it bad

True. Ah itd never be off-road. I'd let my gf keep it.

Everyone be like dayum seeing a hot lil woman climb out of that truck lol...


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[Dhayes]

Ive had my share of Silverados and sierras ( 9 I can think of right now. Most of which were lifted. Like said biggest problem is the transmissions. Then again locally a rebuilt 4l60e with new conv and 2 yr warranty can be had for $850. Next to that depending on the lift brand/ design and driving habits, Bushings tie rods and baljoints wear quicker. Haven't had a problem with CV joints personally from a lift but had heard of boots tearing prematurely. The newer body truck like that one can also develop an issue with traction control and abs lights popping up. Something to to with wheel and speed sensors not being within a specific difference of each other. Solved by a computer tune or plug in tuner which also would fix speedo reading and help with mpg. Exhaust, cold air intake and tuner help greatly. Also if it has a 2 PC drive shaft the carrier bearing tends to go out quicker especially if a drop bracket wasn't installed. Watch for a vibration on takeoff. 37s on a 6" lift are going to rub my 35s rub every now and then depending on how the trucks sitting.



My brothers 05 ext cab 5.3 6" lift on 35s gets 16-18 on the freeway still. K&n intake and flow master dual out cat back.
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I have two right now.

06 2500hd crew 2wd 6.0l 4l80e rcd 8" lift on 35s bilstein 5100 shocks
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And a 99 sierra ext 4x4 4.8 4l80e swap rcd 6" lift on 35s bilstein 5100 shocks
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Love me my lifted gm trucks.

[Jayz28]

Ive had my share of Silverados and sierras ( 9 I can think of right now. Most of which were lifted. Like said biggest problem is the transmissions. Then again locally a rebuilt 4l60e with new conv and 2 yr warranty can be had for $850. Next to that depending on the lift brand/ design and driving habits, Bushings tie rods and baljoints wear quicker. Haven't had a problem with CV joints personally from a lift but had heard of boots tearing prematurely. The newer body truck like that one can also develop an issue with traction control and abs lights popping up. Something to to with wheel and speed sensors not being within a specific difference of each other. Solved by a computer tune or plug in tuner which also would fix speedo reading and help with mpg. Exhaust, cold air intake and tuner help greatly. Also if it has a 2 PC drive shaft the carrier bearing tends to go out quicker especially if a drop bracket wasn't installed. Watch for a vibration on takeoff. 37s on a 6" lift are going to rub my 35s rub every now and then depending on how the trucks sitting.



My brothers 05 ext cab 5.3 6" lift on 35s gets 16-18 on the freeway still. K&n intake and flow master dual out cat back.

I have two right now.

06 2500hd crew 2wd 6.0l 4l80e rcd 6" lift on 35s bilstein 5100 shocks
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/ebeguju9.jpg

And a 99 sierra ext 4x4 4.8 4l80e swap rcd 6" lift on 35s bilstein 5100 shocks
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/8yje6a7u.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/u2y2uged.jpg

Love me my lifted gm trucks.

I agree. Trans is gonna be my biggest problem. Thanks for your input. You've been very helpful.

Anything specific I need to check for? It drove pretty darn good today. I hate the fact the tires gonna cost an arm and a leg to replace.


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[Dhayes]

I agree. Trans is gonna be my biggest problem. Thanks for your input. You've been very helpful.

Anything specific I need to check for? It drove pretty darn good today. I hate the fact the tires gonna cost an arm and a leg to replace.


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Just make sure you take a really good test drive. Transmissions can hide problems until fully warmed up. Check for a vibration or slight thump on hard takeoff from a dead stop. Obliously visually check suspension parts and anything else you would normally check. If its at a legitimate or bigger dealer chances are the put it through service and checked it out in which case you can ask for a copy of the inspection/repair sheet so you know what was needed. With that mileage you should be good if it wasn't totally beat on. If it drives straight and smooth at higher speeds for a decent amount of time it should be good. I had one the would drive perfect until long distance 30+ mins of highway speed. The after getting off the freeway it would shift stupid hard and throw codes until it was shut off for about 10 mins. Ended up being a computer detected slip at higher speeds which increased line pressure which led to hard shifts afterwards.

Yea, tires suck no way around that. There $400 a corner for my 06 for the cheaper ones lol. Just make sure you do some research on tires so you get what best suits you, your truck, and driving conditions. Usually best to pay the extra $50 or whatever a tire and get something good. Crappy tires on a big truck get annoying. And most shops at least here charge extra for alignments on lifted trucks but deffinitly do it.

[Jayz28]

Just make sure you take a really good test drive. Transmissions can hide problems until fully warmed up. Check for a vibration or slight thump on hard takeoff from a dead stop. Obliously visually check suspension parts and anything else you would normally check. If its at a legitimate or bigger dealer chances are the put it through service and checked it out in which case you can ask for a copy of the inspection/repair sheet so you know what was needed. With that mileage you should be good if it wasn't totally beat on. If it drives straight and smooth at higher speeds for a decent amount of time it should be good. I had one the would drive perfect until long distance 30+ mins of highway speed. The after getting off the freeway it would shift stupid hard and throw codes until it was shut off for about 10 mins. Ended up being a computer detected slip at higher speeds which increased line pressure which led to hard shifts afterwards.

Yea, tires suck no way around that. There $400 a corner for my 06 for the cheaper ones lol. Just make sure you do some research on tires so you get what best suits you, your truck, and driving conditions. Usually best to pay the extra $50 or whatever a tire and get something good. Crappy tires on a big truck get annoying. And most shops at least here charge extra for alignments on lifted trucks but deffinitly do it.

Last question.

Warranty is voided with the lift. Still a good deal? I'm scared.

Right now payments are at 430.


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[shownomercy]

IDK if gassers have the issue, but tie rods will bend and buckle if you nail it in 4x4, and CV axles will go boom as well if you launch hard in 4x4. (tie rods at any angle, CV axles are an issue with the big lift trucks, puts em at bad angles)

Brake lines rust pretty badly etc.

[Dhayes]

Last question.

Warranty is voided with the lift. Still a good deal? I'm scared.

Right now payments are at 430.


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Well I know where I'm at generally dealerships only void warranty on replaced parts or parts that fail as a result of the replaced parts. As far as value and deal the more u haggle them down the better in any case but you would have to look up kbb in your area and search for similar trucks and there prices to compare. Its not a bad price in my area for what it is. Pretty much in line for what would be stickered here then generally would drop a little to get it sold.

[Jayz28]

Well I know where I'm at generally dealerships only void warranty on replaced parts or parts that fail as a result of the replaced parts. As far as value and deal the more u haggle them down the better in any case but you would have to look up kbb in your area and search for similar trucks and there prices to compare. Its not a bad price in my area for what it is. Pretty much in line for what would be stickered here then generally would drop a little to get it sold.

More than likely gonna buy this evening. 24,500 with a payment of 430 a month.

The warranty is still good on the power train so I feel a little better and at 37k miles I think truck will be good for awhile.

Guess next question will be about tires lol...


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[Featherburner]

More than likely gonna buy this evening. 24,500 with a payment of 430 a month.

The warranty is still good on the power train so I feel a little better and at 37k miles I think truck will be good for awhile.

Guess next question will be about tires lol...


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[Dhayes]

Most common way their corrected is plug in tuner which owners tend to take with them when they trade them in which reloads factory tune. It can also be taken off when warranty works needs to be done. At least the tuners I have experience with are that way. And they also act as an interface showing alot of good info on the digital display.

What kind of driving and climate do you do/are you in?

[Chopstix]

ask the dealer (if its a GM dealer) if they can correct the speedo for the tire size

[Jayz28]

Most common way their corrected is plug in tuner which owners tend to take with them when they trade them in which reloads factory tune. It can also be taken off when warranty works needs to be done. At least the tuners I have experience with are that way. And they also act as an interface showing alot of good info on the digital display.

What kind of driving and climate do you do/are you in?

I'd say they took the tuner with them leaving the speedo off.

Climate is some snow ice in the winter. This truck will never see off-road. Well very little lol.

I brought it home today. I'll take pics tomorrow.


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[Dhayes]

I'd say they took the tuner with them leaving the speedo off.

Climate is some snow ice in the winter. This truck will never see off-road. Well very little lol.

I brought it home today. I'll take pics tomorrow.


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Congrats! Well I can't offer any help with the snow/ice part exactly. I have toyo open countrys on my 06 and have had them in light snow/slush once and they were OK otherwise been a great street tire. My 99 has bfg all terrains which are also great on the street but get chewed up in the dirt quicker. My brother has general grabber red labels and loves them on and off road rain and mud but never had them in snow. I'm getting the red labels on both mine when these sets are done.

[Featherburner]

Most common way their corrected is plug in tuner which owners tend to take with them when they trade them in which reloads factory tune. It can also be taken off when warranty works needs to be done. At least the tuners I have experience with are that way. And they also act as an interface showing alot of good info on the digital display.

What kind of driving and climate do you do/are you in?
Yeah, the dealer can tell how many times its been flash even when the factory tune is reloaded. Which leaves them an out for warranty work.

[Jayz28]

Congrats! Well I can't offer any help with the snow/ice part exactly. I have toyo open countrys on my 06 and have had them in light snow/slush once and they were OK otherwise been a great street tire. My 99 has bfg all terrains which are also great on the street but get chewed up in the dirt quicker. My brother has general grabber red labels and loves them on and off road rain and mud but never had them in snow. I'm getting the red labels on both mine when these sets are done.

Hey, what are all the important parts of a lift? I'm hoping this one was done right. What do I need to look for?


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[Dhayes]

Hey, what are all the important parts of a lift? I'm hoping this one was done right. What do I need to look for?


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Can you see a brand name? If not can you post up some pics of the lift?

Generally in the back is blocks bolts and shocks, maybe shackles.

Up front should be drop brackets for the front cross member/differential and for the torsion keys/mount. Extended spindles, sway bar links and shocks. They also usually add support bars from the front drop brackets to the torsion bracket. Some also come with a carrier bearing drop bracket.

Its can depend on the manufacture/style also though. Some have different designs but are generally same.

[Jayz28]

Can you see a brand name? If not can you post up some pics of the lift?

Generally in the back is blocks bolts and shocks, maybe shackles.

Up front should be drop brackets for the front cross member/differential and for the torsion keys/mount. Extended spindles, sway bar links and shocks. They also usually add support bars from the front drop brackets to the torsion bracket. Some also come with a carrier bearing drop bracket.

Its can depend on the manufacture/style also though. Some have different designs but are generally same.

You've been a lot of help. Thank you so much. I'll snap some pics when I get home.


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[Jayz28]

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I was in a hurry and couldn't snap too many. Had to go when I got home.


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[Jayz28]

Found a major problem today. The 37x12.50s are way too big for the truck. I can't turn tight turns. :((


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[popo8]

did u buy it?


btw.. even my escalade on the 22s has limited full lock steering...

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[Jayz28]

did u buy it?


btw.. even my escalade on the 22s has limited full lock steering...

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Yes sir. It's one of those things I had to have. Just drew me in. Hope I can afford it lol.


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[Dhayes]

Found a major problem today. The 37x12.50s are way too big for the truck. I can't turn tight turns. :((


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Looks like a rough country lift.

I would get 35" tires when you replace yours. I don't known if I would even put 37's on my 06 with the 8" of lift .

[Jayz28]

Looks like a rough country lift.

I would get 35" tires when you replace yours. I don't known if I would even put 37's on my 06 with the 8" of lift .

Agreed. I found some places that shows how to trim the inner fenders.

So I may do that this weekend. I can't take steep curves and it sucks. lol


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[Jayz28]

Here it is all washed up. Not a bad looking truck. The weather was okay today so my woman and I spent a good part of the afternoon cleaning it in and out. I think I done good. Got an awesome woman who does wonderfully cleaning and a good looking dependable ride.

What do y'all think?

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[95albinobird]

it it diesel? if it's not diesel than it's not a truck.....IMHO.
Chevy+Duramax+Alison trans = BAD ASS
a big exhaust like 4 or 5 inch,bully dog turner you talking over 500hp and like 1000ft pounds of torque...

[popo8]

it it diesel? if it's not diesel than it's not a truck.....IMHO.
...

Thats not very nice...


Truck looks great man.

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[MeanTA]

Truck looks good man!

And there's nothing wrong with a gas engine truck.

[Jayz28]

Thanks guys!!! Can't wait to get some pics of it pulling the old maro to the track!!

Hoping to finally get some nitrous pulls this year. Season is looking good so far. New truck and some nitrous.


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[95albinobird]

Thats not very nice...


Truck looks great man.

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i'm sorry i'll play nice.i drive a 18 wheeler so i'm kinda bias.

[Jayz28]

Hey guys, quick question.

The truck doesn't have a spare. I have an old wheel that will fit but won't be close to the 37x12.50s.

Will this be ok to get me home it I have a flat? I was thinking it needs to go on the front????


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[popo8]

depends on where it would need to go. if on a drive wheel i say no...

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[biggriff]

looks good, I have 35's on my Jeep and it had stock spare, I went to a local used tire place and swapped out for a 35.... (like new BF Goodrich)...id look for a like size spare....imo

[Jayz28]

looks good, I have 35's on my Jeep and it had stock spare, I went to a local used tire place and swapped out for a 35.... (like new BF Goodrich)...id look for a like size spare....imo

I've been looking and can't find anything close. I think a 35 would be fine. I just don't want too small. It would def break sometging.


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[shownomercy]

Good luck fitting a 35 in the spare wheel well...

[popo8]

get a bed mount.

check cl for single tires for sale.

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