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popo8
01-04-2014, 02:47 PM
And only for a price that makes the corvettes of past and present a discount... Including used zr1s...


http://m.autoblog.com/2014/01/03/2014-chevy-camaro-z28-75000-price/

I was very excited for the z28... :(

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JCzNova
01-04-2014, 02:52 PM
Well, it should certainly help C7 sales.... Like they needed any help anyway.

popo8
01-04-2014, 03:27 PM
I love the car.. I love the concept.. and if the 75k price tag is what its worth.. thats fine, but discount it for people that dont want ac or radio.. dont slap them in the face with a 1150 tag... that does not even cover the cost of the stereo and ac..

I find that the most insulting part. I get the idea behind the copos, and the now Z28... why build a racecar for the same or more, when you can buy a brand new one for the cost... I get it....

Its just disapointing that the camaro has lost its BLUE COLLAR roots. No, we dont need a mullet or t-tops...but, what are normal paid people left with anymore from the new car market....

JCzNova
01-04-2014, 03:33 PM
So is this new Z-28 going to have manual windows, locks, seats, no spare tire, manual steering, etc.? Then it is not a "Street race car" anyway. People that strip out their AC and power steering take other stuff out too.

firebird_1995
01-04-2014, 03:40 PM
I think its the reason they got discontinued after 2002. When you price a car that close to a corvette, why not buy the vette? A new ws6 trans am was around 32-34k in 2002. At the same time you could get into a 1 or 2 year old vette for the same money. Its easy to see why sales dropped

MeanTA
01-04-2014, 05:35 PM
This is the problem I have with modern muscle cars now days. Back in the day these cars was built for the average American to buy and go tear up the streets on the weekend. But now they are built and priced for people pulling in six figure incomes.

Muscle cars are meant to be bare boned cars with the most powerful engine possible stuffed in it.

Now they have dual climate control, power everything, touch screen navigation ect. And if you want to strip it down and go more powerful you get screwed by paying double the price.

Ill stick to my older cars.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 06:04 PM
This is the problem I have with modern muscle cars now days. Back in the day these cars was built for the average American to buy and go tear up the streets on the weekend. But now they are built and priced for people pulling in six figure incomes.

Muscle cars are meant to be bare boned cars with the most powerful engine possible stuffed in it.

Now they have dual climate control, power everything, touch screen navigation ect. And if you want to strip it down and go more powerful you get screwed by paying double the price.

Ill stick to my older cars.

the average american can buy a camaro they are just not going to buy a top level camaro. Its no different back in the day. you didnt see the average working man driving yankos nor did you see them driving ZL1 camaros and corvettes. The ZL1 option in 1969 cost almost as the entire car ordered as a 350.

Most people dont want to drive a stripped down car. Only the die hards want to and the reality is they are the minority. I love my camaro but even im glad i have power windows. This is coming from a guy who is anti technology I literally just bought a smart phone this last summer.

MeanTA
01-04-2014, 06:57 PM
the average american can buy a camaro they are just not going to buy a top level camaro. Its no different back in the day. you didnt see the average working man driving yankos nor did you see them driving ZL1 camaros and corvettes. The ZL1 option in 1969 cost almost as the entire car ordered as a 350.

Most people dont want to drive a stripped down car. Only the die hards want to and the reality is they are the minority. I love my camaro but even im glad i have power windows. This is coming from a guy who is anti technology I literally just bought a smart phone this last summer.

I wouldn't compare a new Z28 to a Yenko lol. Its like going from a 350 to 396. And paying more then double. Im sorry but 75,000 for a 505 horsepower glorified pig I nuts.

The Camaro, Firebird, mustang ect. Was originally rolled out to be a budget performance car. Now these cars in striped down form cost more then a C7 which will be a better performer. These cars are being built and marketed to people with more money then brains.

Yes im a purist when it comes to American muscle cars. I believe they should be built for one focus...... going fast as possible as quickly as possible! They don't need touch screen, dual climate, onstar, back up cameras, sending owners email notifications.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 07:24 PM
I keep hearing that these were cheap performance cars back in the day. The reality was they really weren't. My father who is 66 years old talks about it alot. He lived in New York city. my grand parents had some money and bought my dad a striped down convertible 69 corvette. Honestly this was the oddity. Most people weren't running out and buying these cars any more then the average person running out and buying an ss today. Most people only had one car and they werent buying camaros for their only car. Most kids were driving beat up old cars. I dont know where this Idea came from that these were cheap easily obtainable cars back in the 60s because they really werent.

popo8
01-04-2014, 07:43 PM
ie: my 3rd gen bird...brand new in 92.. Was 14k with a 3 k trade in... that was Blue Collar sports car price...

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AdamG
01-04-2014, 08:03 PM
ie: my 3rd gen bird...brand new in 92.. Was 14k with a 3 k trade in... that was Blue Collar sports car price...

LTXtech.com is my drug.

in todays money thats about what 30k which puts you at the price of a new ss? Lets not forget u have several levels of camaro. lt,ss, zl1,z28 in that order. all they did was rearrange the order.

popo8
01-04-2014, 08:08 PM
Id say that puts u in the 25 k range but TOMATOE tomato... Tell me what model was worth todays 50/60/70/80 k range...

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JCzNova
01-04-2014, 08:13 PM
A 2002 costing $32k does not equate to $75k for 2014.

Is anyone in here working the same job they did in 2002, making over double what you were then?!

AdamG
01-04-2014, 08:17 PM
Id say that puts u in the 25 k range but TOMATOE tomato... Tell me what model was worth todays 50/60/70/80 k range...

LTXtech.com is my drug.

actually a inflation calculator put 17k in 1992 money at 28,240 today. But they also made what two models in 92 the v6 and the z28. which had zero tech and most of the car was constructed from off the shelf parts. the top tog camaros of today have special materials to lighten them, new upgraded axles ext. lets not forget every ls7 is hand built and use special parts it is very expensive to produce. Imagine how much your 1996 would have cost if gm did an all out performance build on it. They put the lt5 in it, upgraded axles specifically built for it, up graded brakes, cooling system, suspension and so on.

you guys are not comparing apples to apples your going well top level camaro in 92 was x amount and now a top level camaro in 2014 is x amount when relativistically a top level camaro in 92 is on par with a ss which is toward the botom of the ladder. Again go back to the 60's and 70's and look at the top level cars back then they were very expensive when compared to wages its why only 2 zl1 corvettes were sold in 1969.

popo8
01-04-2014, 08:24 PM
U said 30.. I said 25... And ur calc said 28... And ur arguing... I said tomatoe/tomato.... Meaning same difference...

With that being said the first part of ur comment made the point many of us are saying... they were made for the blue collar man to afford...

Soooo with that being said...where is the blue collar in the fbody name anymore with the 50/60/70/80 k cars.

WITH that being said... BIRDS had v6 bird...tpi 305 and tpi 350 avail on the formula...Ta...and GTA. CAMAROS...same motor options... not sure of all the models...z28 and RS come to mind...



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JCzNova
01-04-2014, 08:24 PM
It's still a Camaro. It's not a twin-turbo lingenfelter Corvette. I hate to bring ford into the conversation, but the price difference between a GT and a Shelby GT-500 is not $45k.

MeanTA
01-04-2014, 08:27 PM
A new 396 L89 Option 69 Camaro in todays dollar would be 24,150.14

Yet somehow a new Z28 costs 75,000.00 that is nowhere on par with inflation

AdamG
01-04-2014, 08:34 PM
neither is their a 45k difference between the ss and zl1 which is the same as the comparison between the gt and the gt500.

where do you guys come up with these numbers. the lt or v6 starts at 24k, ss starts a 34k, zl1 starts 56, and z28 start 75k

camaro had rs,z28 in 1992 that was it.

firebird_1995
01-04-2014, 08:40 PM
where do you guys come up with these numbers. the lt or v6 starts at 24k, ss starts a 34k, zl1 starts 56, and z28 start 75k


in todays money thats about what 30k which puts you at the price of a new ss?

I like how you ask where these guys "come up with your numbers" then loosely post your own.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 08:43 PM
I like how you ask where these guys "come up with your numbers" then loosely post your own.

took those numbers of the cars right off chevys web page go right to it and look. I guestimated inflation from 1992 to now on the 30k qout not bad for being off 2 grand.

JCzNova
01-04-2014, 08:44 PM
neither is their a 45k difference between the ss and zl1 which is the same as the comparison between the gt and the gt500.

where do you guys come up with these numbers. the lt or v6 starts at 24k, ss starts a 34k, zl1 starts 56, and z28 start 75k

camaro had rs,z28 in 1992 that was it.

Ok, is the GT-500 $45k more than V6?

I think everyone is looking at the $51k swing in price.

MeanTA
01-04-2014, 08:45 PM
actually a inflation calculator put 17k in 1992 money at 28,240 today. But they also made what two models in 92 the v6 and the z28. which had zero tech and most of the car was constructed from off the shelf parts. the top tog camaros of today have special materials to lighten them, new upgraded axles ext. lets not forget every ls7 is hand built and use special parts it is very expensive to produce. Imagine how much your 1996 would have cost if gm did an all out performance build on it. They put the lt5 in it, upgraded axles specifically built for it, up graded brakes, cooling system, suspension and so on.

you guys are not comparing apples to apples your going well top level camaro in 92 was x amount and now a top level camaro in 2014 is x amount when relativistically a top level camaro in 92 is on par with a ss which is toward the botom of the ladder. Again go back to the 60's and 70's and look at the top level cars back then they were very expensive when compared to wages its why only 2 zl1 corvettes were sold in 1969.

Z28 Camaro with LS7=75,000 msrp
2013 Corvette Z06 with LS7=75,600 msrp

Do you see how ridiculous that looks. You spend the exact same for a still heavy Camaro with a LS7 as you would for a much lighter faster and more nimble Z06.

Yes the LS7 is hand built but it is a14,000 engine. Which is little over 7,000 more then a LS3. Sorry I don't see the 75,000 value in the new Z28

JCzNova
01-04-2014, 08:45 PM
There was BARELY a $55k difference from a base Corvette to the supercharged ZR1 when it came out.

CamaroZGuy
01-04-2014, 08:52 PM
I have to agree that its way over priced for a camaro, BUT if you look at the performance level of it, its one of the lower priced at that level. Porsche is 80-90k, Lambo LP690 is 200k ish. And really look at the GT500 that is base at 65k....the new z28 is basicly a street legal COPO...

Yes i love the look of the z28. But you can get a used SS and clone it for loss then half the price.

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firebird_1995
01-04-2014, 08:54 PM
Larry said his bird cost 17k in 92 and said that was a blue collar price. You equated that to 30k in "today's money", and said it was at the price of an SS. Then you said 17k in 92 equaled 28,240. Then you said an ss is 34k. You're everywhere with these numbers and calculations.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 08:54 PM
Ok, is the GT-500 $45k more than V6?

I think everyone is looking at the $51k swing in price.

Im sorry man I'm lost. v6 mustand starts at 22k, gt starts and 35k, gt500 55k, no 4th level mustang? seems to me to be about on par with the camaro. I might be missing something but I dont see on their page a level above the gt500 which is on par with the ZL1. I honestly dont think I understand what your trying to say other then the difference between the top and bottom.


Z28 Camaro with LS7=75,000 msrp
2013 Corvette Z06 with LS7=75,600 msrp

Do you see how ridiculous that looks. You spend the exact same for a still heavy Camaro with a LS7 as you would for a much lighter faster and more nimble Z06.

Yes the LS7 is hand built but it is a14,000 engine. Which is little over 7,000 more then a LS3. Sorry I don't see the 75,000 value in the new Z28

I dont see how we can judge anything about the new z28 till actual specs are released. your are basing the entire increase of the car on the ls7 yet we have no idea what else they did. what if the entire body is carbon fiber? or some other crazy crap was done to it. honestly if they through an ls7 in it and say yah 75k I agree with you and go yep its crazy. but till I have full specs I wont jump on that wagon.

popo8
01-04-2014, 08:55 PM
took those numbers of the cars right off chevys web page go right to it and look. I guestimated inflation from 1992 to now on the 30k qout not bad for being off 2 grand.

But i was way off with a guess off by 3k...

LTXtech.com is my drug.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 08:56 PM
Larry said his bird cost 17k in 92 and said that was a blue collar price. You equated that to 30k in "today's money", and said it was at the price of an SS. Then you said 17k in 92 equaled 28,240. Then you said an ss is 34k. You're everywhere with these numbers and calculations.
ok sorry my bad but im not saying the order of prices on the camaro is 50/60/70/80 no blue color worker can afford them. I think thats a little further off then my numbers.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 08:58 PM
But i was way off with a guess off by 3k...

LTXtech.com is my drug.

your corrected me I corrected you whats the big deal? we really gona make a mountain out of this mole hill?

joelster
01-04-2014, 09:03 PM
The 1LE is the new "blue collar" Camaro. But it's barely that. A fully optioned one can get around the $45k mark. Mine is a stripper. You could have 2 of my car with change left over for the price of a Z/28. If you think the Z/28 comes with $40k worth of better stuff you're crazy. The engine is roughly $6k more, wheels are negligible. The 1LE/ZL-1 have 20x10 and 20x11, the Z/28 comes with 19's. Probably cost GM the same to produce. The brakes are where the most is spent. The carbon ceramic stuff can add an easy $10k right there. It still doesn't add up to me. Word on the street is that they priced it at $75k because they know they will still sell all of them since production will be limited. They would still make money if the car was sold around the $55k mark. BTW a new 'Vette with the Z51 suspension would crush a Z/28.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 09:03 PM
lets not forget this car is built to compete against the porche 911 carrera s an 84k car. This is gms targeted consumer. not your person looking at a mustang gt .

popo8
01-04-2014, 09:04 PM
your corrected me I corrected you whats the big deal? we really gona make a mountain out of this mole hill?

I didnt correct u.. In fact...sayi g tomatoe tomato is me saying no difference.

LTXtech.com is my drug.

firebird_1995
01-04-2014, 09:06 PM
your corrected me I corrected you whats the big deal? we really gona make a mountain out of this mole hill?

HAHAHA I like how when you're doing the calling out its perfectly OK but when the tables are turned its no big deal. Ahh well I'm gonna stop now so your fingers can heal.

MeanTA
01-04-2014, 09:06 PM
Im sorry man I'm lost. v6 mustand starts at 22k, gt starts and 35k, gt500 55k, no 4th level mustang? seems to me to be about on par with the camaro. I might be missing something but I dont see on their page a level above the gt500 which is on par with the ZL1. I honestly dont think I understand what your trying to say other then the difference between the top and bottom.



I dont see how we can judge anything about the new z28 till actual specs are released. your are basing the entire increase of the car on the ls7 yet we have no idea what else they did. what if the entire body is carbon fiber? or some other crazy crap was done to it. honestly if they through an ls7 in it and say yah 75k I agree with you and go yep its crazy. but till I have full specs I wont jump on that wagon.

The specs put it 100 pounds lighter then the SS and 300 less then ZL1from insiders. has flared fenders amd redesigned facia for aerodynamics. And improved spoiler and defuser.

Brakes ain't much different from standard SS. Yes it will be better. But its not like there stopping 40 shorter then a SS

And will have a more aggressive handling package. Among other slight changes to drive train.

It will still be a steal body mid 3,000 pound car.

Trust me the changes are not worth a 40,000+ jump in price

popo8
01-04-2014, 09:07 PM
lets not forget this car is built to compete against the porche 911 carrera s an 84k car. This is gms targeted consumer. not your person looking at a mustang gt .

Exactly the point of how the CAMARO lost its BLUE COLLAR accessability with the new z28... Camaros were made to compete with the mustang...

LTXtech.com is my drug.

MeanTA
01-04-2014, 09:11 PM
Exactly the point of how the CAMARO lost its BLUE COLLAR accessability with the new z28... Camaros were made to compete with the mustang...

LTXtech.com is my drug.

That's why I said they priced it for people with more money then brains.

GM losses my respect a little with things like this.

AdamG
01-04-2014, 09:16 PM
I didnt correct u.. In fact...sayi g tomatoe tomato is me saying no difference.

LTXtech.com is my drug.

Well im sorry I am wrong them. When I did it initially I ment it more as a joke but looking back on it, it wasnt very well though out and was wrong of me.


HAHAHA I like how when you're doing the calling out its perfectly OK but when the tables are turned its no big deal. Ahh well I'm gonna stop now so your fingers can heal.
maybe next time your wrong Ill stick my nose into it and point it out even though its none of my business. Or I am sorry you walk across water and never make mistakes and are never wrong?

Exactly the point of how the CAMARO lost its BLUE COLLAR accessability with the new z28... Camaros were made to compete with the mustang...

LTXtech.com is my drug.
I honestly dont get your point larry. So they priced one camaro out there I honestly dont see the big deal. They priced the cars at very price point starting from 25k to 75k. so the top dog isnt in the blue color range should they not have made it at all?

Again Meanta I dont know how gm came out with the 75k price point. maybe it is 40k mark up like I said i dont know.

popo8
01-04-2014, 09:26 PM
Well im sorry I am wrong them. When I did it initially I ment it more as a joke but looking back on it, it wasnt very well though out and was wrong of me.




Ok...cool.


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dawdaw
01-04-2014, 09:53 PM
:gayflag:

I'll stick with my geo tracker with a 4bt

CamaroZGuy
01-04-2014, 10:48 PM
:gayflag:

I'll stick with my geo tracker with a 4bt

Yugo!

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CamaroZGuy
01-04-2014, 11:06 PM
26536

For those that want to try and say its NOT "nimble"

the 12.9 miles and 154 turns of Nurburgring Nordschleife is the benchmark for production cars. almost all manufactures have development shops at the ring. and a 7:37 lap in semi-wet conditions is crazy good.

this is how they justify the 75k price tag. the Z/28 is NOT a blue-collar muscle car, it is an american supercar up there with the top Vetts and vipers.

MeanTA
01-04-2014, 11:42 PM
26536

For those that want to try and say its NOT "nimble"

the 12.9 miles and 154 turns of Nurburgring Nordschleife is the benchmark for production cars. almost all manufactures have development shops at the ring. and a 7:37 lap in semi-wet conditions is crazy good.

this is how they justify the 75k price tag. the Z/28 is NOT a blue-collar muscle car, it is an american supercar up there with the top Vetts and vipers.


Its a good car. But there is a lot if variables when it comes to the track times mainly the driver.

I just don't believe they did 40K worth if improvements. This cars handling improvements can be accomplished with a summit racing catalog basically.

The C7 is said by GM to be there best handling vette on that track. And it comes in less then the Z28.

If turning a muscle car into a supercar means this type of price. People are better of just getting a pure bread supercar.

meissen
01-05-2014, 04:40 PM
Contrary to what the 4th gen Z28 was that we're all familiar with, the Z/28 is the ZR1 of the Camaros. AdamG has been on par more than everyone's giving him credit for.

This car isn't built for the blue collar - that's what the SS is built for.

This car isn't built for people who would just buy a "regular" Corvette. This car is built for die-hard Camaro enthusiasts with money. With limited production, this car is going to be the next Barrett Jackson star in 15-20 years. Yes, you could buy a Corvette Stingray for about the same price but is that mass-produced Stingray going to have as much collector value as the limited edition Z/28?

Handling improvements out of a Summit catalog is my favorite, but on the topic of "is it worth it" - consider this. The suspension in the Camaro Z/28 is only available in one other production vehicle in the entire world. That vehicle, which has an MSRP of $1,700,000, is the Aston Marton One-77 hypercar.

300 pound weight loss. Thinner glass in the rear window, extraneous wiring removed, carpet in the trunk removed, all the speakers except for 1 removed (needed for the seatbelt chime, NHTSA requirement), A/C is optional and not standard.

Yes it's a lot of money, but so is the COPO. There's a model for every person.

Want the basic 5th gen? 1LS or 2LS v6 Camaro.

Want a little more luxury? 1LT or 2LT v6 Camaro.

Want a v8? 1SS v8 Camaro.

Want a little more luxury? 2SS v8 Camaro.

Want better performance over the SS? SS 1LE Camaro.

Want a supercharged super Camaro? One that's great on the track and good at the drag strip? Camaro ZL1

Want a purpose-built track car that's still street legal? Camaro Z/28

Want a purpose-built dragstrip car? It's not street legal. COPO Camaro.

And that's not even including the aftermarket models from Berger Chevrolet, Tom Henry Chevrolet, SLP, Henessey Performance, Lingenfelter, etc.

popo8
01-05-2014, 04:54 PM
Then call it something different than CAMARO.. because the name CAMARO has always been synonymous with BLUE COLLAR sports/muscle car.

I think thats whats not being made clear.

MeanTA
01-05-2014, 05:06 PM
Don't take that summit comment to heart so much. lol

The suspension system isnt a end all of suspension for the gen5. Simply stating the handling improvements can be done to a SS through aftermarket.

Sorry people may disagree with me on this. But I don't feel this car deserves a 75,000 price tag.

It's a fat gen5 Camaro with a LS7, tweeked body,and some suspension and brake mods.

HellTeeOne
01-05-2014, 06:13 PM
IMO a $75k car is indeed missing the point of what a Camaro has always been about, but whatever. If you ask me, all of these "special edition" hyped-up musclecars being sold recently (ZL1, GT500, Z/28, GT500KR) are grossly overpriced and overdone for one reason: collectors from the baby-boomer generation.

The manufacturers know that there is a large group of wealthy, graying, 50-and-60-something men out there with fond memories of the car they either had or didn't have back in the sixties. They want to re-live their youth and are willing to pay a huge premium in order to have the baddest and rarest thing on the market right now so they can stick it in their garage and only drive it to nostalgic cruise-ins on perfect summer Saturdays.

The truly ironic element here is, by pricing them this way GM is assuring that only a tiny minority of Z/28s will ever see the racetrack they're designed for. Most will be squirreled away in climate controlled garages in anticipation of the day they will fetch some huge sum in original condition at a Barrett-Jackson auction decades in the future.

joelster
01-05-2014, 06:14 PM
It doesn't weigh 300lbs less. It weighs 300lbs less than a ZL-1 which is not exactly a big feat. Take off the supercharger and related components and you'll knock 160lbs right there. They brag about the "massive" weight savings on the Z/28 and it's no lighter than a regular SS. Somewhat misleading marketing on their part.

MeanTA
01-05-2014, 07:12 PM
Exactly. I have the income to buy one of these. But there is no way in hell I would ever buy this type of car for this price.

These cars will never see track time. They will be bought just to say someone owns one. Which will make them look like idiots to most people. Like said GM will charge a crazy price to make them rare and give people something to brag about.
The most iconic Camaro's in history never had this type of mark up. And for there time they was the baddest most advanced thing on the streets. And they was actually used for what they was designed for. Which these probably won't. Because the car culture has become more about collecting then racing.

My father owns a 440 6-Pack Cuda. Ordered as a stripped down bare bones car. With no scoop, no engine packege decals, just a rubber floor mat, No stereo I mean nothing, with one intent..... to be raced and thrashed. And that is what he does with it to this day. He told me something years ago about his car that stuck with me "This car was made for people like me. So I could go pick on a rich kid in a Corvette and win."

Now people have to buy a Corvette so they can pick on a rich kid a Z28 and win. Tell me something isn't messed up with that.

meissen
01-05-2014, 07:14 PM
To each their own. I'm drinking the GM kool-aid since I work for GM corporate. I firmly believe the Z/28 is a great car and priced right. Would I personally like it be priced cheaper so I could afford it? Hell yeah, but that's not what they were going for with this car.

jaysz2893
01-05-2014, 08:22 PM
Way to go GM. It is still fat, ugly, and now overpriced. You can buy a ss and build a better car off it for less. Just going to make the me too crowd think their shit stinks even less. Well now atleast us old skool guys have something to shoot for with our old junk. Nothing better than a old fbody beating one of these.

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popo8
01-05-2014, 10:24 PM
Do we know what the over all weight will be on them?

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MeanTA
01-05-2014, 10:36 PM
Do we know what the over all weight will be on them?

LTXtech.com is my drug.

100 less then regular SS so around 3650-3700

JCzNova
01-05-2014, 10:52 PM
100 less then regular SS so around 3650-3700

The price definitely isn't for a carbon fiber body then.

meissen
01-06-2014, 06:45 PM
Has anyone here ever priced what carbon brakes cost? A guy on my site said $15k for carbon ceramic brakes... The Z/28 has them front and rear.

It's all good if you just can't afford the car and you wish it was cheaper so it was obtainable, but don't act like this car is just overpriced.

jaysz2893
01-06-2014, 07:02 PM
I used to make carbon ceramic brakes and and if ppl are paying 15k for them, they are getting ripped off... lol. They should just market this as a vette with back seats..

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JCzNova
01-06-2014, 07:03 PM
.......

You know what, not even worth it.

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popo8
01-06-2014, 07:04 PM
Has anyone here ever priced what carbon brakes cost? A guy on my site said $15k for carbon ceramic brakes... The Z/28 has them front and rear.

It's all good if you just can't afford the car and you wish it was cheaper so it was obtainable, but don't act like this car is just overpriced.

I only think its "ocerpriced" to carry the CAMARO name... Gm wants to make a supercar for 500,000 im all for it... But make it its own car...my issue is only with the fact that they used a name that is synonymous with BLUE COLLAR FUN. thats all.

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jaysz2893
01-06-2014, 07:11 PM
Also what grinds my gears is the SS badging in general. Z/28 was the RPO for performance and in this case is. Finally they got that right, but slappin SS on their other "performance" cars still bugs me. Super Sport was originally just an appearance package. I have seen 6cyl Novas and Impala SS cars tons of times. Maybe GM is finally getting back to some roots, but $70+k for a "mullet mobile" st seems nuts.
I am not complaining cause I can't afford it cause if I could I would go Vette at this price range for the pedigree and keep my z28 cause it is what it is and nothing else.

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joelster
01-06-2014, 07:17 PM
I really like the car, just hate the pricetag and Z/28 moniker attached to it. I can go on ebay and find carbon ceramic brakes front/rear for $14k. Don't tell me that a manufacturer like GM couldn't build them or equip them for cheaper. Look at how many titanium pieces they put into an LS7. They get those things for chump change compared to enthusiasts like myself. Plus the price is just too rounded to even be believable that they aren't making a ton of coin. If they announced pricing at say $73,965.25 (or something similar) i'd believe the car cost in the mid-upper 60's, and they are looking to make $5-$8k per.

This car will be JUST LIKE the COPO. It will have all the goods to light up a racetrack and get people talking about GM and Camaro's but SADLY, only 5-10% of the owners will do that. You'll see these at Barrett-Jackson, Mecum, and eBay, and occasionally you'll hear of one tearing up a track.

jaysz2893
01-06-2014, 07:24 PM
As to the pricing and profit it will be interesting to see the "dealer markup" bs. Some ppl will prb pay near $100k for one like they did for the c7.

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popo8
01-06-2014, 07:29 PM
As to the pricing and profit it will be interesting to see the "dealer markup" bs. Some ppl will prb pay near $100k for one like they did for the c7.

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That is a guarantee.... 100k easy.

Remember when the Prowlers came out?

jaysz2893
01-06-2014, 07:30 PM
Yep. We made the brakes for the prototype. Ppl paid way too much for that turd.. and still do.

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