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96z28SideSwype
10-22-2013, 11:28 AM
Not sure if this is the correct area or if advanced tech is better but how hard is it to convert to race fuel?
1996 Camaro Z28 pacesetter lts and ory Texas speed performance Catback exhaust K and N cai. 14.1 1/4 mile
blkchevyz
10-22-2013, 11:45 AM
not really any converting to do but their is no reason to goto higher octane unless you need it.
SexyTransAm
10-22-2013, 12:00 PM
too high an octane can hurt performance if u dont need it.
96z28SideSwype
10-22-2013, 12:45 PM
Well I bought a second Camaro that I'm going to use for just the track that's why I was wondering the highest octane down here is 91 also
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blkchevyz
10-22-2013, 01:37 PM
you can run unleaded race gas, or low lead without changing much... but again you dont really need it unless your running a power adder, or high compression.
popo8
10-22-2013, 03:28 PM
lead will beat up o2s and cats.
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96z28SideSwype
10-22-2013, 08:53 PM
Hmmm ok guess I'll stick with the 91 octane here and I'm not running cats on either car and o2s aren't to hard to change
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Mystery Bird
10-23-2013, 06:49 AM
I can run 91 in my car without ping or knock. Compression is 11.3. I run 93 when it's really hot out though.
blackbird1084
11-04-2013, 08:13 PM
Same^. My car actually felt like it ran worse with just 104 unleaded fuel the one time I tried it.
dawdaw
11-04-2013, 09:04 PM
Well while building the car for STRICTLY for the track, highly consider the fuel and what your willing to spend. Every fuel has advantages disadvantages.
On a NA build lean towards a oxygenated fuel. Q16 makes good power but has MTBE in it and is harsh big time on fuel systems, E85 is oxygenated and makes good power, is dirt cheap, but has to be drained every couple months if it sits cause it attracts moisture and the moisture will eat fuel systems.
If you're just looking at a mild build in the 12ish region for static compression pump gas 93 will work, your cooling system, TUNING, and how much cylinder pressure you make based off the split in the cam, cam timing, ring selection, etc. I ran 93 on a 12.9 almost 13:1 motor but I switched to E85 and am looking forward to.hopefully some good results, or at least my tuner thinks so lol.
94Blackbird
11-04-2013, 09:38 PM
Well while building the car for STRICTLY for the track, highly consider the fuel and what your willing to spend. Every fuel has advantages disadvantages.
On a NA build lean towards a oxygenated fuel. Q16 makes good power but has MTBE in it and is harsh big time on fuel systems, E85 is oxygenated and makes good power, is dirt cheap, but has to be drained every couple months if it sits cause it attracts moisture and the moisture will eat fuel systems.
If you're just looking at a mild build in the 12ish region for static compression pump gas 93 will work, your cooling system, TUNING, and how much cylinder pressure you make based off the split in the cam, cam timing, ring selection, etc. I ran 93 on a 12.9 almost 13:1 motor but I switched to E85 and am looking forward to.hopefully some good results, or at least my tuner thinks so lol.
The e85 is higher octane, so you'll be able to advance your timing more, as well as being less sensitive to the moisture in the air since e85 attracts moisture. The trade off is that e85 has less btu content that gasoline, so you need more of it to make the same power.
96z28SideSwype
11-04-2013, 10:51 PM
Not looking to change to e85 since I would have to change the fuel pump and all the other stuff I'll stick with 91 since that's the highest here and once I start getting extra cash I may look into swapping to e85
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Injuneer
11-05-2013, 12:29 PM
In a normally aspirated engine, octane requirement depends on many things, and one of those is elevation above sea level. El Paso shows as 3,800-ft above sea level in Wikipedia. That'a why they only sell 91 octane... you don't need anything higher because of the significantly reduced barometric pressure. At 3,800-ft your engine only pulls in 87% of the air mass that it would consume at sea level. That means an 11.0:1 static compression ratio behaves like its 9.6:1.
popo8
11-07-2013, 02:44 AM
In a normally aspirated engine, octane requirement depends on many things, and one of those is elevation above sea level. El Paso shows as 3,800-ft above sea level in Wikipedia. That'a why they only sell 91 octane... you don't need anything higher because of the significantly reduced barometric pressure. At 3,800-ft your engine only pulls in 87% of the air mass that it would consume at sea level. That means an 11.0:1 static compression ratio behaves like its 9.6:1.
jeez man ... u do know alot!
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96z28SideSwype
11-07-2013, 08:42 AM
Hmmm ok cool didn't know that guess it's better to stay 91 for now
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