94 Z28, old mans car

[popo8]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HG0PbleR4VA

car made 471whp 604rwtq on a land and sea dyno yesterday, no changes since ltxtech dyno day. either the trans is slipping or something with converter. owner of shop said it is a 600whp all day car if it would actually read right and not spin/flash converter on dyno

gotta get it to the track.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using TapatalkThats great. harner said it would prob read a bit lower than yhe dynojet... which read 500 rwhp...

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[SSlowBoat]

Thats great. harner said it would prob read a bit lower than yhe dynojet... which read 500 rwhp...

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalkthe torque number is off though, been reading about how it's reading and I think taking 50 off the torque and adding it to hp is logical due to the converter

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[popo8]

the torque number is off though, been reading about how it's reading and I think taking 50 off the torque and adding it to hp is logical due to the converter

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using TapatalkThats beyond me...

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[SSlowBoat]

Thats beyond me...

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalkthe motor naturally aspirated made 490/490 on engine dyno with smaller heads, so motor is making probably 510 crank hp WITHOUT boost. add 10-12psig to that number and the converter/trans are soaking alot up

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[SSlowBoat]

finally got popo8 9" rear in the car. need to make new brake lines and waiting on a 1000hp chromoly driveshaft. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180205/fbe33593cdd53d194ae6837e0f3d664b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180205/068f4dda71123a113fb8f2b6d6f7fbca.jpg

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[popo8]

U know i have a chromoly ds here in my garage, just needs a different length yoke and good to go.

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[myltwon]

I'd be more interested to see what it does at the track than on a dyno

[SSlowBoat]

I'd be more interested to see what it does at the track than on a dynowe are, hence the rear upgrade. also, it's gonna get a new procharger Inlet too to get rid of the plastic restrictive one, I've been reading alot about that being a choke point in these cars. technically, it should go low 11's high 10's with a good driver and traction

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[SSlowBoat]

jeeze it's been a year. car still on cribs, gotta do brake lines and driveshaft then she will be back on the ground/road. the old guy was in a slump last year, I ain't letting that happen again this year. if he dont finish it, I will and drive it

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[popo8]

jeeze it's been a year. car still on cribs, gotta do brake lines and driveshaft then she will be back on the ground/road. the old guy was in a slump last year, I ain't letting that happen again this year. if he dont finish it, I will and drive it

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkMake it so... spring is right around the corner.

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[popo8]

Spring is closer...

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

Spring is closer...

LTXtech.com is my drug...

He has a driveshaft, showed up friday. Just gotta find time. His house is battling him now lol.

[popo8]

He has a driveshaft, showed up friday. Just gotta find time. His house is battling him now lol.Battling so bad to keep him from a driveshaft install?

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

Battling so bad to keep him from a driveshaft install?

LTXtech.com is my drug...considering his camaro almost became a catfish with a broken pipe garage flooding situation, yes

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[popo8]

considering his camaro almost became a catfish with a broken pipe garage flooding situation, yes

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkLol... oh boy

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

Lol... oh boy

LTXtech.com is my drug...yep, atleast a) his hood was closed and b) it sprayed opposite my motor on the dollies. hit the cutty stock bottom end but i hit it with wd40 last night and i think itll live long enough to spray all the nitrous at it

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[popo8]

yep, atleast a) his hood was closed and b) it sprayed opposite my motor on the dollies. hit the cutty stock bottom end but i hit it with wd40 last night and i think itll live long enough to spray all the nitrous at it

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkWell he can address the house issues while u finish the car and test drive it... ;)

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

Well he can address the house issues while u finish the car and test drive it... ;)

LTXtech.com is my drug...he got started on the brake lines today.

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[popo8]

he got started on the brake lines today.

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkWooo hooo

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

the way this is sitting is bothering me, but thats how it wants to rest. rear is at full droop. think itll be ok?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190330/6039aa4d55fd1b0028b82b9478a07b10.jpg

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[popo8]

the way this is sitting is bothering me, but thats how it wants to rest. rear is at full droop. think itll be ok?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190330/6039aa4d55fd1b0028b82b9478a07b10.jpg

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkU mean cause the plug is turned and not letting the line stay square with the axle tube? If so, I dont see it as an issue.

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

U mean cause the plug is turned and not letting the line stay square with the axle tube? If so, I dont see it as an issue.

LTXtech.com is my drug...thats the only way the stainless line wants to rest with that loop in it.

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[popo8]

thats the only way the stainless line wants to rest with that loop in it.

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkI see no issue with it.

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

finally got this junk pile back together again. spohn chromoly driveshaft installed, 9" from popo8 installed, brakes bled, moved out under its own power, hosed off and took for a ride. some little things to do stillhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190903/caa2a723c3bfc04c964dcec6306f4351.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190903/73c6aeb9c1d2a3b9fee9a5b9e107af8a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190903/76191136d54d69bc2c882a7c628e3bfb.jpg

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[popo8]

finally got this junk pile back together again. spohn chromoly driveshaft installed, 9" from popo8 installed, brakes bled, moved out under its own power, hosed off and took for a ride. some little things to do stillhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190903/caa2a723c3bfc04c964dcec6306f4351.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190903/73c6aeb9c1d2a3b9fee9a5b9e107af8a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190903/76191136d54d69bc2c882a7c628e3bfb.jpg

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkCant wait for him/you to make some passes in it.

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

well its time. 275/40/17 et street r. going to track this coming weekend to see if we can actually put down a passhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/5fc7482af41bc1b5b0e625807699eb88.jpg


https://youtu.be/HXH4BwyE2bU

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[popo8]

well its time. 275/40/17 et street r. going to track this coming weekend to see if we can actually put down a passhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/5fc7482af41bc1b5b0e625807699eb88.jpg


https://youtu.be/HXH4BwyE2bU

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkFkn A!!!!! What track are u headin 2?

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

Fkn A!!!!! What track are u headin 2?

LTXtech.com is my drug...Island, its only 20 mins from us

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[popo8]

Island, its only 20 mins from us

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkOh, ok... I think we talked about that, now that u mentioned it.

Make sure to get video... if u want some go pros, I have 2.

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

Oh, ok... I think we talked about that, now that u mentioned it.

Make sure to get video... if u want some go pros, I have 2.

LTXtech.com is my drug...I have a go pro and will be videoing. just hoping we can dial the suspension in and it sticks enough to make somewhat of a decent pass

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[Fastbird]

I wanna see results!!!!

[SSlowBoat]

I wanna see results!!!!Of course this car fights with us a few days before something as usual. bangin limiter on shifts, ugh.

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[SSlowBoat]

So, turns out the car wasnt banging the limiter, it was shifting exactly when commanded. Spark was blowing out. running a bkr6e at .035 to try to stop fouling on street. well that has been causing spark blow out with the og delco opti and stock ignition system. scrambled to regap plugs to .027ish last night. set shift to 5700 to try to keep it from breaking up.

-5700rpm shift point
-275/40/17 et street r at 21psi
-11psi was seen at 5700rpm
-left on idle at half throttle, punched it at the 60ft, left lane

1 pass and track said no no (11.49 and quicker needs a roll bar)

i just want to thank everyone that has helped us over the years. yeah the car is fast, but never really knew how fast it was. i think its got a 10 in it. its still a street car through and through. but damn, its a freight train up top


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[Fastbird]

Ok there's more info here than you gave me on FB. Get an Ignition Box on the car (I had an Accel 300+ on my turbo car and it was fine......the Accel is a nice unit), raise the shift points back up, and yeah, there's 10's there if you can get it out of the hole.

[SSlowBoat]

Ok there's more info here than you gave me on FB. Get an Ignition Box on the car (I had an Accel 300+ on my turbo car and it was fine......the Accel is a nice unit), raise the shift points back up, and yeah, there's 10's there if you can get it out of the hole.i keep reading ignition boxes kill optis. was thinking ltcc

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[Fastbird]

I don't believe that for a second. You realize how many LTx Fourth Gens have been run over the years without issue with an ignition box on them? Both cars I owned ALWAYS ran better with the box on the car.

[Flyinz]

I ran an MSD 6AL box for years, with an MSD coil, no issues. What do you think of those tires?

[SSlowBoat]

I ran an MSD 6AL box for years, with an MSD coil, no issues. What do you think of those tires?after 1 pass, at 21ish psi, shit burnout, they didnt spin with all the torque hitting hard

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[popo8]

i keep reading ignition boxes kill optis. was thinking ltcc

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkMy camaro ran a simple 6al... once I had the delco opti on there, it was never an issue. I'm with Fastbird on the ignition box... but I told u that in our other convo.

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

6al on the way, along with a few other little things. and this black metal hoopity doop thingy is in process to be installed. really dont want to drop the tank, but i guess we gotta. would like to make cecil or island in a few weeks and get some good runs before a track rental we are trying to attend. nothing like last minute for me and the old guy, its our normal.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191007/6daf7d04a10923cd334c33b835455564.jpg

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[SSlowBoat]

where u guys mounting your ignition boxes?

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[Fastbird]

I always had it up on the strut tower right behind the fuse box.

[SSlowBoat]

I always had it up on the strut tower right behind the fuse box.Some of us have fuel lines there lol

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[popo8]

where u guys mounting your ignition boxes?

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkMine was in the glove box. Mounted it raised on 3/4 inch spacers, and I would just open the glovebox when driving to keep it cool...

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[popo8]

Believe it or not... this is the only pic that partially shows it there... lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/63db47f078f8a0c719a1a596ef070345.jpg

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[Brandon++S]

Firewall.

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[shownomercy]

Mine was in the trunk for the longest time when I was NA

[Fastbird]

Some of us have fuel lines there lol

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That's with factory lines in the OEM location. It fits. I don't have a picture but the purple T/A had one sitting right there bolted in when I bought the car.

Pic I stole. The lines go right over the top of it.
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[SSlowBoat]

That's with factory lines in the OEM location. It fits. I don't have a picture but the purple T/A had one sitting right there bolted in when I bought the car.

Pic I stole. The lines go right over the top of it.
https://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o58/insomniac791/324.jpgthats the old style msd box. the one we got is the newer digital 6 that is about 3" longer and an inch taller.

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[Fastbird]

Oh, interesting. Didn't know they made them bigger. I couldn't find a pic of my old setup because I had the Accel 300+ box mounted UNDER the fuse box because it was so small.

[SSlowBoat]

bout as ready as we are gonna be for the rental on monday. have to get the rollbar padding in, finish wiring msd box, and reinstall exhausthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191108/e8635d9167750488a7b2def590240b8e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191108/5e6d36f2203724059c5c259da8f983a8.jpg

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[Fastbird]

Have you tested it up high under load with the new ignition yet? I'd at least get a couple of quick rips in just to make sure it's all good.

[Vicious95Z28]

where u guys mounting your ignition boxes?

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Mine is where the CAI would drop out of the engine bay but I have an LS1 lid conversion with CHRS1313 ram air.

[SSlowBoat]

Have you tested it up high under load with the new ignition yet? I'd at least get a couple of quick rips in just to make sure it's all good.Yeah, tomorrow, before it goes on trailer [emoji23][emoji23]

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[SSlowBoat]

tomorrow is the dayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/2d28058f05f3929bfcbe8b08f96e6d78.jpg

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[Fastbird]

Hope it's nice for you today! We're getting snow here in NE IN. Updates man! We need updates!

[shownomercy]

Today was a good day I think

[SSlowBoat]

Holy shit roller coaster of a day. long post alert.

last night car started overheating 2 mins after idling. guess the brand new 6 month old rad cap quit. Ltconvert changed that before putting it on trailer.

first pass off the trailer was 10.94 at 128mph, 21psi in the et street r's. second pass was quicker at 10.88 same everything. third pass 10.94 same everything. shifting at 5700rpm. we are new to drag racing, i am new to it as a driver, not gonna lie. since everything was going the right direction we decided to put the tune on kill and see what happens.

I proceeded to raise shift points to 6500rpm, limiter to 7k, figuring everything is running right and the msd box seems to be doing the trick. proceeded to run 11.2x with the car breaking up right at the shift 1-2 and 2-3.

immediately came back to pits and reflashed with a 6000rpm shift point tune, same everything else, and go back to 10.92https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191112/f32f21940fccc371e6a68aa9fb9a5966.jpg no spark blowout/breaking up shit. reviewed datalog and car is shifting 250rpm after commanded shift point, which imho a built cahall 4l60e is doing its job correctly with 11-12psi of boost and a heavy car hitting it.

made another 10.92 pass and hotlapped it back. tried to leave harder and went fastest at 10.87 proceeding to blow the passenger side header gasket at cylinders 2 and 4.

The car surprised the shit out of me and osie today. i really didnt realize how fast it is. i know 10.87 at 126mph may not seem all that quick, but for us, it means alot after all this thing (and the multiple other lt1's ive built) have put us thru.

After reviewing the datalogs, i am seeing pcm showing battery voltage dropping significantly from 13.2v to 11.5v by end of run. this car always always since way back in the heads cam days of 2013 ran 13.2ish volts on the pcm logs. alternator has been changed multiple times (even to a 200amp), heavy duty battery cables installed, extra grounds, pcm, list goes on. I am thinking this voltage drop is causing the spark issues we are having, because even with the msd box it doesnt have enough, it just moved up in the rpm range.

I want to thank everyone on this forum for all the help over the years getting it where it is. now we got the bug and we wanna go faster. great event today blackbirdws6. great seeing everyone. i need a beer.

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[shownomercy]

Congrats!

Car leaves smooth and pretty much drama free

(check to make sure you are spinning alternator at correct RPM)

[SSlowBoat]

Congrats!

Car leaves smooth and pretty much drama free

(check to make sure you are spinning alternator at correct RPM)all pulleys are stock diameter. no underdrives. doesnt matter which alt. know one thing, alt is getting hot as hell.

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[Camaro96]

Congrats on the car running well.

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[Cathead]

Those are damn good times! Great job!

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[SSlowBoat]

Congrats on the car running well.

Sent from my VS996 using TapatalkEh, running ok, could be faster, could stop breaking up up top

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[Camaro96]

Ya they can always be faster. You get it figurer it out.

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[shownomercy]

Eh, running ok, could be faster, could stop breaking up up top

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If its not leaning over up top, gear it better or run taller tires. Or spin it to the moon lol

[SSlowBoat]

If its not leaning over up top, gear it better or run taller tires. Or spin it to the moon lolif i could get it to rev to 6500 without breaking up.

taller tire is going in in spring

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[shownomercy]

What plugs and gap?

[SSlowBoat]

What plugs and gap?bkr6ef at .027.

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[Fastbird]

Wow. I wouldn't have thought you'd need that small of a gap. Although I had mine (on my Vette) at .028 and it was blowing out, tuner took them down to .024 to get it stable at 17 PSI. Granted that's at over 900 RWHP, moving significantly more air. You could take the gap down some and see how it reacts. You running an OEM or aftermarket coil?

[SSlowBoat]

Wow. I wouldn't have thought you'd need that small of a gap. Although I had mine (on my Vette) at .028 and it was blowing out, tuner took them down to .024 to get it stable at 17 PSI. Granted that's at over 900 RWHP, moving significantly more air. You could take the gap down some and see how it reacts. You running an OEM or aftermarket coil?when the initial issue arose, it had an msd blaster coil. we put a new delco stocker on and it moved higher in the rpm range. now we have a msd digital 6 with the msd coil, and its still there

what i am seeing on the logs is the pcm voltage reading dropping over a run, by 3rd gear voltage is reading 11.5v.

car has upgraded battery cables, paperformance 200 amp alternator, new optima battery. the alternator is hot as hell all the time, and seeing weird voltage movement at idle now too. Moe had said something way back in 2013 about the pcm reading low voltage, but we upgraded all that stuff back then and its still showing up. not sure what to do.

i know the bkr6e is a projected tip plug, i wonder if switching to a br7ef would help

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[Fastbird]

You could try a BR6EF plug also. Keep the heat range and move to the non-projected tip.

I think it's got something to do with the voltage though. Definitely concentrate on the voltage drop. Might be worth plopping a stock rebuild alternator in just to see how it acts.

[shownomercy]

Be expensive, but would be interesting to toss on a dyno with a heavy battery charger maintaining voltage and see if it blows out spark.

[SSlowBoat]

Be expensive, but would be interesting to toss on a dyno with a heavy battery charger maintaining voltage and see if it blows out spark.funny story, i have an aquaintance as does osie, who has a dynocom dyno in his garage, 10 mins away. Ltconvert maybe we should call up eric and ask him for a few pulls (and your snowplowing LOL)

we are actually doing just that Fastbird , reman alt going in, as well as a new exciter pigtail. going to possibly try the spare ground idea too.

I just looked at the log again, the car is breaking up slightly at wot in 3rd gear up to the stripe. only revved to 6350.

dyno log from 2017 shows a voltage drop but only down to 12.4v. at idle back then it was 13.6, now its 13.1, weird.

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[SSlowBoat]

new alternator and header gaskets arrived. trying to maks island black friday.

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[DeuceSS]

Work and weather permitting, I'm gonna try to get there also.

[popo8]

Wow. I wouldn't have thought you'd need that small of a gap. Although I had mine (on my Vette) at .028 and it was blowing out, tuner took them down to .024 to get it stable at 17 PSI. Granted that's at over 900 RWHP, moving significantly more air. You could take the gap down some and see how it reacts. You running an OEM or aftermarket coil?I still like this idea... tighten the gap. But also replace with conventional tips...

LTXtech.com is my drug...

[SSlowBoat]

ready to rock for tomorrow, last test and tune of the year at island. praying for some decent traction and a 10.7xhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191129/4c0f973a7f6fc87bb5caf28bd63360c6.jpg

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[popo8]

ready to rock for tomorrow, last test and tune of the year at island. praying for some decent traction and a 10.7xhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191129/4c0f973a7f6fc87bb5caf28bd63360c6.jpg

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkGood luck man!

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[SSlowBoat]

10.78 at 125mph. thats all shes got for the year. the alternator and added ground seems to be helping, i did not see the voltage dropping now. left the 6k tune in it because the track didnt have good traction today.

Just want to thank everyone on here that has helped us along the way. car has totally surprised us and lived up to what people were saying it could do. happy holidays everyone!


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[SSlowBoat]

hmmmhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191201/0cd3634ecac5a38875729e7f1371613d.jpg

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[SSlowBoat]

moser bs grade 8 studs bye bye. arp 3.25" x 1/2" going inhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/5fa226342f0a62d2c76c82befd7ea52f.jpg

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[SSlowBoat]

got em on finally. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/78aa9d24b6e832605294a52682fb6d28.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/b3734ffe7e5a267270c097870b69e5b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/1c2af6d1ba1ff9bc5754f6f3c5ac1f7e.jpg

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[popo8]

got em on finally. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/78aa9d24b6e832605294a52682fb6d28.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/b3734ffe7e5a267270c097870b69e5b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/1c2af6d1ba1ff9bc5754f6f3c5ac1f7e.jpg

Sent from my SM-N975U using TapatalkLookin good! U guys change the plans on the "widebody" quarters?

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[SSlowBoat]

Lookin good! U guys change the plans on the "widebody" quarters?

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkYeah he bought the correct racestars. ill use the odd offset rears on my third gen.

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[popo8]

Yeah he bought the correct racestars. ill use the odd offset rears on my third gen.

Sent from my SM-N975U using TapatalkOhhhh. Didnt even realize they were different

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[SSlowBoat]

got the brakes bled again, had bad bleeders not holding on the rear calipers. also started laying out the linelock wiring. fyi, if you delete fog lights, the harness/switch and wiring is perfect for the linelock and makes a boatload easier

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[SSlowBoat]

went to the track today to test on the 275/60/15 et street radial pro's. went slower all around, fastest mph was 124 spinning. fastest pass was 11.04 at 122. so we are down a few mph and 3 to 4 tenths. ugh

atleast i got good data todayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201003/7092e8b46c4e2e25b8d57e59b1f300e1.jpg

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[SSlowBoat]

This winter we are finally going to get serious. Motor is coming out and going to Karl Ellwein to make sure shes tip top, because the wick is getting turned up next year.

Going to send the trans to gail at cpt for a refresh/whatever updates they have since the last time it was there (billet input shaft i think it needs) and also be converted to 24x....

yeah, you read that right. 24X. I dont want to hurt this thing pushing on the obd1 computer any longer. rather just do it right and get a good speed density tune in. we have had a full 24x plug in setup from harner in the garage for like 4 years, its time to use it.

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[shownomercy]

Gonna need more blower

[SSlowBoat]

Gonna need more blowerD1SC or F1A

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[Fastbird]

F1A all the way.

[SSlowBoat]

Ltconvert got movin on the 94 this weekend. front end is ready bare from bumper to engine.

possibly drop motor next weekend?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201207/5ea37ae9f2033fe07281ff2087f968ff.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201207/16f4fe46d769fb74bb260f42942bbe88.jpg

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[harner]

F1X coming in hot

[SSlowBoat]

hes plugging away39712

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[Fastbird]

What's the story? What's going on with it?

[SSlowBoat]

What's the story? What's going on with it?Going to karl to get checked/possibly slightly changed. trans is going to gail to be updated for 24x, bigger blower, some odds and ends

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[SSlowBoat]

Ta-Dahttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201214/319832d85a0705a5a4794b67267c6ec1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201214/84fdd21748e366d5bc807953d86664cd.jpg

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[popo8]

Ta-Dahttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201214/319832d85a0705a5a4794b67267c6ec1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201214/84fdd21748e366d5bc807953d86664cd.jpg

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We should race.. see how soon the impala is done compared to this being back together... the 27th of this month will be 1 year for the impala being down. Sigh...

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[Ltconvert]

We should race.. see how soon the impala is done compared to this being back together... the 27th of this month will be 1 year for the impala being down. Sigh...

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I hope it won’t be that long!


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[SSlowBoat]

motor dropped off to karl ellwein for check up/refresh and trans dropped off to gail of cpt for refresh/updates

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[shownomercy]

Gap those rings for 25psi

[SSlowBoat]

Gap those rings for 25psiyou providing a turbo kit? [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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[shownomercy]

It wasn't terrible, could certainly tweak things in retrospect but you buy the pipe, I'll advise.

#turboallthethings

[SSlowBoat]

CPT has the trans updated/converted to 24x, new pro torque converter is in, and the mad scientist mr ellwein will be tearing into the motor hopefully this week.

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[SSlowBoat]

Mr Karl Ellwein just shot me an email, stated engine looks perfect inside. bearing all looked good, little bit of skirt dirt so a quick hone and new rings should be good to go.

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[SSlowBoat]

Karl posted up a 3 (or 4 part) vid of the engine teardown on his ellwein engines channel. said it looks basically brand new inside.

That was good news lol. hes got about 3 or 4 weeks until he gets back on it.


https://youtu.be/fpS0T4_wyqY

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[shownomercy]

Those plugs looked dark, how rich were you idling and part throttle?

[SSlowBoat]

Those plugs looked dark, how rich were you idling and part throttle?i guess too rich, had a few burnt plug wires too. the wideband would hang around 14-15 at idle

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[SSlowBoat]

been a while. so karl reassembled the motor and dyno'd it. it made 15hp and about 20tq less everywhere than it made same everything except the le trickflow heads. karl heard a noise on the engine dyno he didnt like, and decided to pull the heads and check the piston side clearance again.

he found the gap was excessive, and believes the pistons are rocking alot in the bore/losing compression.

so he strongly suggested a piston swap to a mahle from the wiseco, but the problem is they wont ship until november. now we wait

i picked the trans/converter up from CPT last month on the way back from the beach. really just need the motor back, and the d1 or f1a then can reassemble

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[SSlowBoat]

another one havent touched in a while. due to the covid supply chain crap it took a long while to get the new pistons that Ellwein wanted to try. well the results dont lie, he was right, something was up with the engine.

521hp/514tq on motor with a 20 year old cola crank, some le trickflows, 4.040 bore and new mahle pistons, same cam etc.

originally it made 490/490 with le2's and same exact cam.

now we gotta get the motor from karl and then Ltconvert has to decide on D1sc or F1A

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[shownomercy]

F1x

[SSlowBoat]

F1xosie wants a 9 sec street car. dont know if thats needed

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[shownomercy]

osie wants a 9 sec street car. dont know if thats needed

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[harner]

osie wants a 9 sec street car. dont know if thats needed

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It would certainly make 9s easier!

[SSlowBoat]

just picked up the motor today in the storm (its like a ritual to go to gail or karl's in a storm lmao)

soon

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[SSlowBoat]

what is this? what is THIS????

Got Ltconvert motor back in, along with the top o the line CPT ultra pro race 4l60e, new billet faced pro torque converter, etc

got alot done yesterday, cracked the first beer at 10am and finished up around 5pm. mainly top side stuff now, wiring, Fastbird fuel line relocation, etchttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221107/ef8406f1e0bd86b58da22e7d7628c81f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221107/efeda533625667898199550f1d33cc51.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221107/78ec62007944d1189f454da126f49543.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221107/e1f34c955de404775ab61cb6838ad326.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221107/4af23d2de8d9deaaeb335d9d856be071.jpg

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[JOATMON]

Awesome, pretty quick install considering you were relaxed drinking beer. AND, on cribs on the floor. I'm impressed.
Nolan

[SSlowBoat]

Awesome, pretty quick install considering you were relaxed drinking beer. AND, on cribs on the floor. I'm impressed.
Nolanwe have been doing the cribs since 2013, its become second nature to just break out the cribs for alot of stuff, takes 10 mins and have full access to almost everything

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[SSlowBoat]

that was fun, osie is continuing stuff up front while i worked underneath. Umi drag bar installedhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221121/31665b5225fa128d86a7c4d3b397040c.jpg

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[95 blackbird]

What exhaust is that?
Looks like a single 4"?

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[SSlowBoat]

What exhaust is that?
Looks like a single 4"?

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mufflex 3.5" single with magnaflow muffler.

[SSlowBoat]

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[camz2894]

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I know it’s been a awhile but how did the ltcc work out?


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[SSlowBoat]

I know it’s been a awhile but how did the ltcc work out?


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ltcc was on my other car. it worked on that car and my 95, then when i installed it on the new green car i got it wouldnt start. i just got it back from bob bailey who replaced the chip but i havent tested it again

[camz2894]

ltcc was on my other car. it worked on that car and my 95, then when i installed it on the new green car i got it wouldnt start. i just got it back from bob bailey who replaced the chip but i havent tested it again

Oh ok well good to hear it was working for you, hopefully it tests out ok this time


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[SSlowBoat]

Oh ok well good to hear it was working for you, hopefully it tests out ok this time


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hows your car running? you went torqhead correct?

[camz2894]

hows your car running? you went torqhead correct?

Yea I have the torqhead kit, it’s running good!


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[SSlowBoat]

We back boys! went live today! FINALLY!

https://youtube.com/shorts/fi5Ix15AG0g?feature=share

Got the steering wheel removed (nightmare) and Ltconvert got the wiring tidy underhood/battery relocation

changed injector constant and flashed it with hptuners. she fired off, no dtc just didnt wanna idle lol.

sent the tune to the tuner and see what happens now

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[JOATMON]

Sounds sweet and deceptively mild.

[SSlowBoat]

Sounds sweet and deceptively mild.engine is same as before so it should have some chop once the tune is sorted

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[JOATMON]

What cam? You may have said before but I don't remember.

[SSlowBoat]

What cam? You may have said before but I don't remember.custom le 227/239 blower cam on a 112lsa

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[JOATMON]

Nice, sometimes I wish mine was about that duration. Probably would be more civil on the street, oh well, I ain't changing it now. LOL

[SSlowBoat]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5MBwFlx-nj8?feature=share

2nd start. workin on the tune and the bugs.

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[Brandon++S]

What is the clicking, ticking sound? More so on the driver side, rockers?

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[SSlowBoat]

What is the clicking, ticking sound? More so on the driver side, rockers?

Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalksounds like a header leak. engine hasnt been run since the engine dyno and karl ellwein checked everything before sending it home. sounds like a header leak in person.

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[JOATMON]

Brandon has better ears than me, I didn't hear any ticking. I should probably get hearing aids. LOL

[SSlowBoat]

https://youtu.be/kfmJhh3Kw0M

she went on her maiden voyage today, bit of work to do still. some stalling and not shifting right4045740458

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[Brandon++S]

What's the exhaust set up again? Sounds awesome!

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[SSlowBoat]

What's the exhaust set up again? Sounds awesome!

Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalkthat tick was a header leak by the way, whole driver side was leaking. changed the gasket and its golden now.

pacesetter longtubes ory and mufflex 3.5" single magnaflow



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[Brandon++S]

Good deal. Sounds good with that exhaust!

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[SSlowBoat]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YrDe93raAuI?feature=share3

getting the tune closer. having an issue where 2nd to 3rd wont shift at wot. never had that before

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[SSlowBoat]

Been a while. So short redacted version, 2 different tuners, both open loop speed density and maf/closed loop, car ran like shit. It ran best but still wasnt all there on the OLSD tune, and was the worst on the MAF tune.

Osie got kind of twisted one night while we were hanging out in my garage, and ordered the efi connection holley terminator x max direct fit kit.

110% no bullshit plug and play, have to hardwire 6 wires total, and they are all hot or ground.

I took a 24x LS base file and changed the nrcessary stuff like firing order injector stuff etc. I added some timing to the base and took away 10% fuel right away, and we started the car. It lit off faster than it ever has, even obd1 opti. the vid below is after about 5 whole seconds of run-time. shouldve video'd it after 10 mins of the tune learning and me moving just fuel around. never surged or stalled out, or even dipped stupid low or anything. once it was warm i had it revving really snappy and returning to idle/idling very well with about 2% max correction, no fireballs or knock etc

Now we are going to start installing the procharger again, this time just lower boost. just want the car to be driveable and fun again. I could always put some spray on it to make it party

headphone users beware, air filter loud

https://youtube.com/shorts/EmvJk2xEqDc?si=Jbu7ZsF6rDF4vVMg

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[JOATMON]

Hey, Thanks for posting this. I have a bunch of questions about the system. I'll try to figure most of it out on the Holley and EFI Connection websites, then pick your brain.
I'm really interested in making the change but I don't have the spare cash right now. I just spent a assload on a building, a truck and a golf cart. Gotta save up for it.
Nolan

[SSlowBoat]

Hey, Thanks for posting this. I have a bunch of questions about the system. I'll try to figure most of it out on the Holley and EFI Connection websites, then pick your brain.
I'm really interested in making the change but I don't have the spare cash right now. I just spent a assload on a building, a truck and a golf cart. Gotta save up for it.
Nolan

questions in regards to what? give it a spark table, tell it what injectors you have and cubic inch/firing order, and start car lol its that easy. especially if you buy the kit from efi connection. the harness fits better than the stock harness, and plugs right in.

[shownomercy]

Or if you get the 3.5in screen, you answer like 5 questions and bam, it will start/idle/drive like a dream.

[JOATMON]

Thank ya'll.

[SSlowBoat]

gotta redo some vacuum lines, add a breather to be cool like SNM, and update tune to 3 bar maphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240413/10bedca03749e9cfd01dc60cce674546.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240413/132957f9ef82cf997724b751973c79b2.jpg

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[shownomercy]

A breather? What for?

[SSlowBoat]

A breather? What for?to be cool like you papa. dont feel like running anything to the inlet of the blower yet, as that may change

and also to stir more shit in the fb group [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] i love my haters [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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[JOATMON]

Headed to Talladega for Spring race week. I'll catch up with progress on these cool projects when I return.
Later, Nolan

[SSlowBoat]

Headed to Talladega for Spring race week. I'll catch up with progress on these cool projects when I return.
Later, Nolanhope you had a good trip.

got the car out for its maiden boosted holley voyage. this thing is rowdy, and so far the holley is handling it well. car already scared the shit out of me rolling into boost. its running hot though, got up to 210 (83 outside) so that kind of sucks. Also have to add a breather on passenger valvecover, but gonna end up going with a puke tank.

https://youtu.be/5lwVaUmSiH8?si=AshkhlUViHrQsywo

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[JOATMON]

Hey thanks, we had fun. The Camaro is sounding great. I'd like to see a video of the scary part when it goes under full boost, hint.
I'm chomping at the bit to bring mine to the dragstrip time trials. Just gotta get feeling better first.
Nolan

[SSlowBoat]

Hey thanks, we had fun. The Camaro is sounding great. I'd like to see a video of the scary part when it goes under full boost, hint.
I'm chomping at the bit to bring mine to the dragstrip time trials. Just gotta get feeling better first.
Nolanhopefully next weekend i can get more logs/vids. the 7 mile ride getting that hot bothered me, have some things to sort first

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[SSlowBoat]

not much to post about this one yet, osie changed the stat and redid the intercooler piping a little to eliminate some of those long rubber elbows the procharger kit uses. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240524/8f8e3991127793626124da86dfcee6cc.jpg

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[JOATMON]

Looks great, blower is tucked in so neat you can't see it in the photos.
Nolan

[SSlowBoat]

Alright where to start with this fiasco. So thursday night we load up, rip an exhaust clamp off the y pipe, nearly take out the bumper (damn this car is low).

Friday go to back it off the trailer at Island and figured ill leave it on the trailer ramps, chock it, fix exhaust clamp. well when i go grab the new clamp out of my bag, i see antifreeze on the trailer....waht the f**k. so my fiance and osie start searching searching searching. well the rad came with a level sensor plug, and osie didnt have a level sensor anymore, so we both totally overlooked it and realized thats where it is leaking from. Advance auto had one in stock about 20 minutes away from island, so we sent my fiance and daughter to get the sensor, a gallon of 5050, and a small drain pan. figured we will swap it quick when she gets back on the fly, top off, go thru tech.

well thats exactly what we did, i made 2 motor hits then she got back, swapped it with minimal loss, then went thru tech. tech for whatever reason gave me a hard time about the car having a 6 point with stock seats and belts, even though they were the ones that made us put a 6 point in it in 2019 and said after we are 10.0 good with the stock seat and belt. i threw a little bit of sarcasm at the tech guy, because the other tech guy said i was good, this guy said no, looked at other tech guy and he walked away. whatever.

go immediately up to make a pass, tires were at 18psi cold, these are 275/50/15 et street SS tires, so a 26" setup. this car is a street car thru and thru, long torque arm (relocated) lowering springs, koni sport adjustable shocks for handling, etc. NOT a drag car. yes i have been 10.78 in it on a 1.39 60ft, but i feel that may have been luck.

left off idle and immediately hazed the tires hard enough to have to fully lift, ugh. got back in it and ran it out the back. about 2/3 track start smelling a hint of burnt oil. bring it back to the pits and get the below slip, then see oil dripping. appears the driver side valvecover shifted back and since there are no posts due to the scorpion rocker arms, it allowed it to a) leak and b) the bolts were hitting the rockers (could hear the squeak). little annoying. just loaded it back on the trailer as i was over this car that day, and didnt want to stress out or risk wrecking it.

funny thing is it did this pass with just a basic street tune in the holley, with 6k rpm shift points. lol i think its making alot more steam now.


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[SSlowBoat]

crappy vid of the pass:


https://youtu.be/mYdgbkqJeZA

[JOATMON]

Awesome, thanks for sharing.
Nolan