Probably the stupidest question I will ever ask. Hypothetical idea

[nateleduc]

I've been thinking. I really like the the roots supercharger on the LT1 that Cornel did. Personally I think that is the coolest look in the world. I also know that buying a kit for one will never happen. Now here comes the stupid question.

Why not have a set of SBC heads converted for reverse cooling, then mount a low profile supercharger on top of it? I feel that would be much cheaper than having a custom intake made for a whipple to attach to.

Obviously this idea has probably been proposed before, as I know its too good of an idea to not be discussed.

I'm thinking something like this would be perfect:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Whipple-Small-Block-Chevy-W200R-3-3L-SC-Hot-Rod-Kit-Non-Interclr-WK-11000B-/280868985805?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4165189bcd&vxp=mtr

[Fastbird]

I like your thinking, but I think the big factor you don't see many roots blower builds on the F-Body's is because of simple hood clearance. There's just not a lot of room to work with, especially with how far under the cowl the engine sits.

[WTF 24/7]

Could probably work on Impalas and LT1 swaps. Have to sort out bracket and pulleys.

[popo8]

We have a couple members that have done roots style blowers on lt1s. one has an impala that is now a TT set up.

Co-Owner/Admin @ LTXtech.com

[nateleduc]

I like your thinking, but I think the big factor you don't see many roots blower builds on the F-Body's is because of simple hood clearance. There's just not a lot of room to work with, especially with how far under the cowl the engine sits.

What about the RAM Air hood. I think that might give a few extra inches to fit


We have a couple members that have done roots style blowers on lt1s. one has an impala that is now a TT set up.

Co-Owner/Admin @ LTXtech.com

Nothing looks better than a roots style. I was wanting something a little more straight forward than milling out a lower intake for it.

[firebird_1995]

Fastbird hit the nail on the head. Its not so much the hood clearance that will get you so much as the cowl. When I looked at putting the side mount on my dads camaro, what I found was I would have to relocate it forward about 6 inches to get out from underneath it. By that time you are too far forward to get a compact drive belt in. What WOULD work is a twin M90 setup like pocket did on 3rd gen. Because the housings are not as long, you could get them in front of the cowl and still have room for a drive belt assembly.

[SSlowBoat]

mmmm pocket's build. i remember watching taht when i had a iroc. im pretty sure you could clearance the cowl enough to not make it too noticeable though

[firebird_1995]

Lol. His build(s) were the inspiration for mine. Very nice guy, very willing to help and share info. I didn't think about cutting the cowl, that might work...

[Formula218]

what if you trimmed the cowl? depending on how important wipers are to you there is really n reason NOT to cut it, is there? how much room could be gained by trimming it like people do to run a carb'd setup?

[fullforce]

sounds like a lot of wasted money, I highly doubt your bottom end is already built for boost so why not just get a standard small block and build it?

[RamAir95TA]

Truthfully if you're going to put SBC heads on then why not just use a SBC block? It would cost probably half as much.

Would be a COMPLETE waste of cash, IMO.

[firebird_1995]

He never said anything about putting this on a stock engine, so it doesn't matter what his bottom end was built for. Last time I checked, and I did this for the same reason he's asking, most places charge between $200-$300 to convert SBC heads to lt1. So I suppose there would be that much money "wasted". The bottom end is all standard SBC stuff. Timing chain (if using an ewp) is SBC. Only thing left would be the opti.


Another option would be having the SBC style manifold base that's used on that kit modified for lt1 heads.

[SSlowBoat]

^ive thought of the same thing, and i dont see why it wouldnt work, except for maybe the fact that most sbc lowers for blowers dont have injector bungs

[nateleduc]

Hence the whole "probably the stupidest question i will ever ask" title. My block isn't built, I don't see my I couldn't trim the cowl a bit and have everything bolt up. Obviously I would need to move the waterneck and route a few things differently. Figured it would be cheaper than having a custom intake CNC'd

[firebird_1995]

It wasnt a stupid question. Sometimes you just have to think outside the box.

[nateleduc]

The issue I'm having is all the SC I find a carb.

EDIT:
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/product.asp?ProdID=1176

This looks "close" but that intake at the back is all kinds of off. I'm beginning to see why this would never work

[firebird_1995]

Well, it HAS been done. So its not impossible. Its just crammed in there tight. The reason I went with a side mount was to alleviate space issues and for the ability to run an air to air intercooler.

[nateleduc]

I'd run meth if I did, still contemplating the idea. I don't have much left to pay on my car, then I'd get a Elio.

What SC would you reccomend?

[firebird_1995]

Battmann on nastyz28 built this.
21932
I believe that's a b&m 144 with a custom plate to bolt on in the place of a carb.

[SSlowBoat]

if i had the time money and tools i always wanted to try something like this, cornell's setup always intrigued me. i love the sound of a roots blower

[nateleduc]

Battmann on nastyz28 built this.
21932
I believe that's a b&m 144 with a custom plate to bolt on in the place of a carb.

I like my EFI :(

[firebird_1995]

It is efi. The plate that bolts in the place of the carb hold the injectors

[nateleduc]

There is no way that would fit under the hood of a fourth gen.

I'm thinking a whipple would be the only logical move

[Formula218]

cowl hood.