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popo8
02-25-2013, 03:03 AM
Yes im being funny with the "naws..." but.... Can my
Stock
1985
Tpi
Horribly wired
Unknown mileage (odo reads 250+)
Automatic
Vette handle n20??? and if so...how much and what type of system.
?
Just toying with an idea...
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NuckinFutz93
02-25-2013, 03:24 AM
Should be able hold a 75 shot.
popo8
02-25-2013, 03:27 AM
Should be able hold a 75 shot.
U think if i did a dry shot ahead of the maf... It would adjust fuel when spraying?
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NuckinFutz93
02-25-2013, 03:44 AM
From what I understand, the TPI computer is to slow to make the needed changes for a dry kit.
I can't speak on this, but it was what I've been told before, I've never had a N20 on a TPI car.
popo8
02-25-2013, 03:49 AM
From what I understand, the TPI computer is to slow to make the needed changes for a dry kit.
I can't speak on this, but it was what I've been told before, I've never had a N20 on a TPI car.
Lol... Ive never had an n20 car....
Maybe its not a good idea.
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Chopstix
02-25-2013, 07:34 AM
yes on the nitrous....amount is depending on your willingness to push it...75-150hp
NO...on the dry kit, wet plate kit would be best but single/dual nozzle will work
make sure the ignition and fuel systems are up to par, change plugs, retard timing, have some fun
SexyTransAm
02-25-2013, 10:44 AM
Make sure ya got good comp, and fuel psi. And let her eat! Oh and wet would be the way to go here.
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popo8
02-26-2013, 09:12 PM
cmon larry, put the big boy pills in it. nothing but a wet shot and nothing less than 150 shot
Lol... U just wanna see it melt.
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popo8
02-26-2013, 09:49 PM
not always the case, ive known plenty of guys that will throw a 200+ shot on a stock small block just for fun. sometimes they last a lot longer then you would think, only one way to find out lol. make sure you get video
Hahahaha.... Mine may have anywhere between 90-260k on it tho... Lol
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popo8
02-26-2013, 10:27 PM
thats alright, the 200 shot will reseal those rings real quick lol
Lol... Reseal=melt
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abeane4
02-26-2013, 10:49 PM
Or just hit that bitch with a 200 hit like it sits see how long it will hold and after it melts u will have a reason to lt1 swap lol
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THIS I agree with this then after the swap you'll have a car you can race at the shootout.
popo8
02-26-2013, 10:59 PM
THIS I agree with this then after the swap you'll have a car you can race at the shootout.
Lol......
U guys .
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1sicks10
02-26-2013, 11:06 PM
Cmon man, everybodys doing it. There's a reason its called a tuneup in a bottle.
JCzNova
02-26-2013, 11:07 PM
So what's up? You sprayin and prayin or what???
popo8
02-26-2013, 11:22 PM
Asked blue bottle z to make me some shop time to bring the car i and get the new nittos on the back... We will go over the car and see what kinda condition she is in.... Odds are 100 will be all i throw at it...if we deem its up to it.
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JCzNova
02-26-2013, 11:29 PM
Asked blue bottle z to make me some shop time to bring the car i and get the new nittos on the back... We will go over the car and see what kinda condition she is in.... Odds are 100 will be all i throw at it...if we deem its up to it.
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I decided against the plate kit for tomorrow night, as I won't be running it at the Shootout. Looking for 13.0x and 102+ MPH this week.
popo8
02-26-2013, 11:29 PM
I decided against the plate kit for tomorrow night, as I won't be running it at the Shootout. Looking for 13.0x and 102+ MPH this week.
I thought everyone was spraying
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JCzNova
02-26-2013, 11:33 PM
I thought everyone was spraying
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You get them to add it to Street Stock and I will put the 250 on it!
popo8
02-26-2013, 11:37 PM
You get them to add it to Street Stock and I will put the 250 on it!
No no no... Po po no invo with rules.
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popo8
04-07-2013, 12:03 AM
Should be able hold a 75 shot.
Can I just do a dry shot if the car is already way fat.. or is that 2 risky to just use a "guestimate?"
popo8
04-07-2013, 12:04 AM
yes on the nitrous....amount is depending on your willingness to push it...75-150hp
NO...on the dry kit, wet plate kit would be best but single/dual nozzle will work
make sure the ignition and fuel systems are up to par, change plugs, retard timing, have some fun
What if its just a 40-50 shot.. can I dry shot it... Im just looking for simple and cheap.er.
Chopstix
04-07-2013, 02:44 AM
DO not go dry on TPI or LTx cars
popo8
04-07-2013, 02:46 AM
DO not go dry on TPI or LTx cars
OK, I didn't know if the answer was gonna change if I dropped the shot. So i will just buy a wet kit for it..... Would best the application be a TB plate?
popo8
05-03-2013, 09:02 AM
Ive decided to get it running right...(she has issues, and idk how to scan it) Then i will spray it with no more than 75-100....
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Ghettogmc23
05-03-2013, 01:29 PM
Tpi ran just a basic obd1 ECM didn't they? If it did datamaster should scan it, plus you get 20 free scans before you buy it. I had the ostrich setup and everything on my 4.3 tbi for tuning. Tried using datamaster for scanning but never could get it to work, course when I gutted the dash I found someone had cut the aldl connector wires lol. If you need some info moates.com has tuning stuff for obd1.
popo8
05-03-2013, 01:41 PM
Tpi ran just a basic obd1 ECM didn't they? If it did datamaster should scan it, plus you get 20 free scans before you buy it. I had the ostrich setup and everything on my 4.3 tbi for tuning. Tried using datamaster for scanning but never could get it to work, course when I gutted the dash I found someone had cut the aldl connector wires lol. If you need some info moates.com has tuning stuff for obd1.
The problem is WHERE... my car is a Frankenstein of two or more cars to get what is there now. No PORTS...
Ghettogmc23
05-03-2013, 11:36 PM
What??? Your motor doesn't have ports? How does it run!? Lol sorry couldn't resist.
Should be able to make one. Just get the connector from a salvage yard or something, then if I remember right it'll just need an ignition hot wire, a ground, and then it'll need a diagnostic signal from the ECM. From what you say that will be the hard part cuz you gotta track the wire. A Haynes book would say or if your lucky you can find a pinout for the ECM. Ill do some diggin cuz I know I took notes and archived some info on it when I was rewiring mine.
Off subject...... TPI? From the guy sellin all the LTX schwag? Lol jk Popo.
Ghettogmc23
05-03-2013, 11:39 PM
http://www.chevythunder.com/fuel%20injection%20ecm%20pinouts.htm
Might help ya.
96lt1m6
05-03-2013, 11:51 PM
Can I just do a dry shot if the car is already way fat.. or is that 2 risky to just use a "guestimate?"
Way fat is as bad as being too lean..
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popo8
05-04-2013, 07:06 AM
...
Off subject...... TPI? From the guy sellin all the LTX schwag? Lol jk Popo.
lol... got an LS Escalade also...
19020
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zooguy
05-04-2013, 11:11 AM
have your tuner pull *4 timing get a WET kit and spray a 75hp shot and your plenty safe and its enough to put a smile on your face
(and to all the naws pros yeah the rule of thumb is 2* for every 50 shot but if he is wanting to play is on the safe side and not push it more timing pulled then needed is way better than not enough pulled ) with the extra timing pulled you may lose 5-7 hp with out spray but that is no biggie.
popo8
05-04-2013, 12:04 PM
Troy...Im just curious... did u read any of the posts prior?
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zooguy
05-04-2013, 01:09 PM
on this one being honest ... no and i was looking back ... i must have woke up and did some half asleep posting. feel free to remove my nonsense posts. :shiner:
96lt1m6
05-04-2013, 01:28 PM
75 shot 100shot 125shot would be just about the maximum I would put on there.
There is no special tune to do on that motor to handle nitrous I promise you, many years of nitrous on TPI cars here..
You can pull timing on your own via distributor
I use autolite25 plugs gapped at .035"
Timing set at 6°-8°
No air leaks in the Plenum boots
Of course place the nozzle behind the MAF
Check fuel pressure 44psi w/ vacuum line off
With a 700r4 I prefer to have a manual activation switch so I can deactivate the nitrous just before the the 1-2, 2-3 shift since some 700r4s get pissed and freak out and not shift in time even during the useless manual shift that people tend to do. Right now if the car is in good shape it should be running 14.8 for an '85 so expect to dip into the mid 13s on a 100 shot
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popo8
05-04-2013, 02:29 PM
Lol
. thanku man and actually best pass out of three passes with it was a 14.9
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Ghettogmc23
05-04-2013, 03:43 PM
lol... got an LS Escalade also...
19020
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TPI, LTX, LSX.... all your missing is a carb 350 for a complete set...... or is that what's in the genesis.....? Lol
popo8
05-04-2013, 04:15 PM
no.
. but the cherokee may get one. :)
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Ghettogmc23
05-04-2013, 05:09 PM
no.
. but the cherokee may get one. :)
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At least with carb the only ports to worry about are on the heads lol!
btw any update on that?
popo8
05-04-2013, 09:12 PM
So after the car show today... i threw in 5 gallons of 112... and do i sound nuts if i say its running better...starting better... NOOOOOO wot pinging like i would hear on occassion....
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Ghettogmc23
05-04-2013, 09:29 PM
Sounds like timing issues. Knock sensors too tight maybe, or your timing is off at all points which is why the slower burn of 112 helps start and also delays the combustion at wot and gets rid of your pinging. Just a thought.
popo8
05-04-2013, 09:43 PM
Sounds like timing issues. Knock sensors too tight maybe, or your timing is off at all points which is why the slower burn of 112 helps start and also delays the combustion at wot and gets rid of your pinging. Just a thought.
and i thought maybe it was plugs...been noticing exhaust has a fat smell...and now at wot...even though runnin better...she is huffing some smoke.
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Ghettogmc23
05-04-2013, 09:52 PM
Could be plugs, you said it was running rich... although not sure how octane would help it start lol.
popo8
05-04-2013, 09:59 PM
lol... that i dont know... but maybe timing which has lead to shitty plugs?
U think it needs more or less timing?
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Ghettogmc23
05-04-2013, 10:24 PM
Higher octane = slower burn so its igniting later than it was. If it were me I'd try turning the timing back a degree or two. Should be easy with the distributor. Might wait to burn the 112 out tho. Give you more run time to make sure it wasn't just a coincidence and also avoid having to readjust when you go back to regular pump gas.
Of course for all the work that's gonna take you could drop an LTX in... Lol
popo8
05-04-2013, 10:29 PM
Higher octane = slower burn so its igniting later than it was. If it were me I'd try turning the timing back a degree or two. Should be easy with the distributor. Might wait to burn the 112 out tho. Give you more run time to make sure it wasn't just a coincidence and also avoid having to readjust when you go back to regular pump gas.
Of course for all the work that's gonna take you could drop an LTX in... Lol
LOL.. it may get one, one day.. carb'd though.. nice and simple. The car is a spliced and disgusting assortment of wiring harnesses, that would make an FI LTX even more of a nightmare... but we will cross that bridge later.
Ok..Ill run the fuel out of it first and see how it is runnig till the tank is done. Amazing tha 5 gallons of 112 in a FULL tank of 93, can be noticeable? Hope its not in my head. lol
Ghettogmc23
05-04-2013, 11:21 PM
Well full tank of 93 - 5 gallons of 112 how much does that leave you? Maybe 11? So that's about 33% 112 so your actually running about 100 octane (this is all in my head n I've been awake all day so it might be off lol)
either way if your only a degree or two off that's enough octane boost to handle it. Regular to premium is what 89 to 93? Not saying that it IS the fix but seems like what I'd go with as a plan of attack. Course reading your plugs couldn't hurt. That's how I learned mine had problems with over fueling, the strong smell wasn't enough to tip me off lol
popo8
05-04-2013, 11:36 PM
Well full tank of 93 - 5 gallons of 112 how much does that leave you? Maybe 11? So that's about 33% 112 so your actually running about 100 octane (this is all in my head n I've been awake all day so it might be off lol)
either way if your only a degree or two off that's enough octane boost to handle it. Regular to premium is what 89 to 93? Not saying that it IS the fix but seems like what I'd go with as a plan of attack. Course reading your plugs couldn't hurt. That's how I learned mine had problems with over fueling, the strong smell wasn't enough to tip me off lol
lol... im impressed.
looking fwd to gettimg some more miles on it now.....
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Ghettogmc23
05-05-2013, 01:10 AM
Thanks. I do what I can to help out because I've been in the spot where I didn't really know what to do and I know how nice it is to just have someone to bounce ideas off of. Actually up until about two months ago I didn't really know what BLMs were for, but now I'm pretty confident in how to use them for tuning. I love diagnosing problems, its fun to me cuz if I'm right I feel like I helped and if I'm wrong I usually learn something. I just do a lot of research when I'm bored, that's usually how my projects get started. That's why I'm on here all different times of the day lol.
Keep us posted, I'm interested to see it running good to see how the wet kit does and how you get it set up. That was my next step for my LTX until I had a few hiccups. Plus if you don like it ill buy it at discount from ya lol.
popo8
05-05-2013, 02:43 AM
Thanks. I do what I can to help out because I've been in the spot where I didn't really know what to do and I know how nice it is to just have someone to bounce ideas off of. Actually up until about two months ago I didn't really know what BLMs were for, but now I'm pretty confident in how to use them for tuning. I love diagnosing problems, its fun to me cuz if I'm right I feel like I helped and if I'm wrong I usually learn something. I just do a lot of research when I'm bored, that's usually how my projects get started. That's why I'm on here all different times of the day lol.
Keep us posted, I'm interested to see it running good to see how the wet kit does and how you get it set up. That was my next step for my LTX until I had a few hiccups. Plus if you don like it ill buy it at discount from ya lol.
hahahahaha.... u got it... tell u what .if i dont like it... Ill GIVE it to u.!
Thanks again. Between what u wrote here and what ubwrote in Ryan's other thread about how u were hesitant to poat on a forum...
this all means ALOT!
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popo8
05-05-2013, 02:46 AM
One more question... if the car turns out to be running good with its current timing and the mixed fuel... techincally its a more powerful car on the mixed fuel
. i coulld theoretically just keep running it on a fuel mix rather than retading timing
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popo8
05-05-2013, 02:49 AM
75 shot 100shot 125shot would be just about the maximum I would put on there.
There is no special tune to do on that motor to handle nitrous I promise you, many years of nitrous on TPI cars here..
You can pull timing on your own via distributor
I use autolite25 plugs gapped at .035"
Timing set at 6°-8°
No air leaks in the Plenum boots
Of course place the nozzle behind the MAF
Check fuel pressure 44psi w/ vacuum line off
With a 700r4 I prefer to have a manual activation switch so I can deactivate the nitrous just before the the 1-2, 2-3 shift since some 700r4s get pissed and freak out and not shift in time even during the useless manual shift that people tend to do. Right now if the car is in good shape it should be running 14.8 for an '85 so expect to dip into the mid 13s on a 100 shot
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this reminds me... I wanna take it to our guy and have him do a svc and shift kit on the trans & anything else he can do to make it better, (while still in the car)
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Ghettogmc23
05-05-2013, 06:04 PM
Your right, it is allowing you to run more timing, which is a slightly longer burn so it is more powerful. Sounds almos like it was supposed to have higher octane.
You can leave it and run a mix, it would be like stepping from regular to premium for more timing. No real drawback other than doubling fill-ups, fuel grade quality, etc. you know what's up lol.
Or you could go the other way n run pure 112 n bump timing up a bit lol. Lotta options depending on what you wanna do overall.
Your current setup would probably work well with nitrous cuz if you plan to run at the track or something just fill with pure 112 n timing shouldn't need adjusted, but don't quote me on that! Just in theory sounds good.
Personally I'd just do the adjustment n not keep mixing for the main point of being less hassle in the long run. Idk how much you drive it so maybe once a month to fill up wouldn't be too bad but every week or so might get rather annoying lol.
popo8
05-05-2013, 06:24 PM
Your right, it is allowing you to run more timing, which is a slightly longer burn so it is more powerful. Sounds almos like it was supposed to have higher octane.
You can leave it and run a mix, it would be like stepping from regular to premium for more timing. No real drawback other than doubling fill-ups, fuel grade quality, etc. you know what's up lol.
Or you could go the other way n run pure 112 n bump timing up a bit lol. Lotta options depending on what you wanna do overall.
Your current setup would probably work well with nitrous cuz if you plan to run at the track or something just fill with pure 112 n timing shouldn't need adjusted, but don't quote me on that! Just in theory sounds good.
Personally I'd just do the adjustment n not keep mixing for the main point of being less hassle in the long run. Idk how much you drive it so maybe once a month to fill up wouldn't be too bad but every week or so might get rather annoying lol.
Ohhhh, its my DD, and Ive been DD'n it with 93.... just always noticed a slight WOT ping.. but right now she is running awesome... THAT TPI is even blowing off the DRs!!!
popo8
05-05-2013, 06:32 PM
Your right, it is allowing you to run more timing, which is a slightly longer burn so it is more powerful. Sounds almos like it was supposed to have higher octane.
You can leave it and run a mix, it would be like stepping from regular to premium for more timing. No real drawback other than doubling fill-ups, fuel grade quality, etc. you know what's up lol.
Or you could go the other way n run pure 112 n bump timing up a bit lol. Lotta options depending on what you wanna do overall.
Your current setup would probably work well with nitrous cuz if you plan to run at the track or something just fill with pure 112 n timing shouldn't need adjusted, but don't quote me on that! Just in theory sounds good.
Personally I'd just do the adjustment n not keep mixing for the main point of being less hassle in the long run. Idk how much you drive it so maybe once a month to fill up wouldn't be too bad but every week or so might get rather annoying lol.
Ohhhh, its my DD, and Ive been DD'n it with 93.... just always noticed a slight WOT ping.. but right now she is running awesome... THAT TPI is even blowing off the DRs!!!
Ghettogmc23
05-05-2013, 10:16 PM
Lol hey I've never been against TPI, just wanted to throw that out there...
If its your DD I'd just turn timing back to run the 93 without pinging at WOT.... course in my 7 years driving I don't think I've ever been brave enough to go wot in my daily lol. Either way it sounds like you got your issues figured out, just need to choose which solution.
so ummmm.... just wondering..... how's that port issue comin along? Lol
popo8
05-05-2013, 10:28 PM
Lol hey I've never been against TPI, just wanted to throw that out there...
If its your DD I'd just turn timing back to run the 93 without pinging at WOT.... course in my 7 years driving I don't think I've ever been brave enough to go wot in my daily lol. Either way it sounds like you got your issues figured out, just need to choose which solution.
so ummmm.... just wondering..... how's that port issue comin along? Lol
lol.... if this resolves my issue...no port issue for now... seriously tho...i have a sticker over the ses light... so no need to scan it anymore...lol.
As for goin wot in.my dd.... this vette is my beater...to play with..have fun with amd not really hold back.... if it breaks...so be it...it keeps me from thrashin on my baby (camaro.) lol
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Ghettogmc23
05-05-2013, 10:40 PM
Lol so it's DD to the real DD. as for the sticker over the ses.... performance mod. So now were just waiting on my.... I mean YOUR nitrous kit to be installed? Lol
popo8
05-05-2013, 10:42 PM
Lol so it's DD to the real DD. as for the sticker over the ses.... performance mod. So now were just waiting on my.... I mean YOUR nitrous kit to be installed? Lol
hahahaa... its a dd to the real dd...with a back up dd (escalade) im the wings.... lol
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Ghettogmc23
05-05-2013, 10:56 PM
Lol how is that the backup to the camaro??? Even more important, and can't believe I just noticed this, how is a corvette a daily beater!?!? Put that escalade on the road and make the vette the official site car! Lol
popo8
05-05-2013, 11:18 PM
Lol how is that the backup to the camaro??? Even more important, and can't believe I just noticed this, how is a corvette a daily beater!?!? Put that escalade on the road and make the vette the official site car! Lol
LOL... thought about making the vette the site car.. but I really do use it to much to make it "everyones"
car.... The camaro used to be a DD till the past year... I just want to keep from beating on it...so that is where the vette comes in. In fact the vette was purchased because driving regular cars bores me.. and while the camaro was down I needed something more enjoyable to drive... The escalade is my bad weather...lazy day, or "my back is out" DD... other than that ...she sits till the winter...
Ghettogmc23
05-05-2013, 11:51 PM
Lol I hear ya on that. That's why I started building up my daily for autocross, may not be fast by it'll be fun! Then there's days its nice to kick bak in the Rio with the ac on and still get 40mpg without trying.
Guess I'm a little off topic tho. We're here cuz your vette is wanting some naws! Lol
popo8
05-06-2013, 12:07 AM
Lol I hear ya on that. That's why I started building up my daily for autocross, may not be fast by it'll be fun! Then there's days its nice to kick bak in the Rio with the ac on and still get 40mpg without trying.
Guess I'm a little off topic tho. We're here cuz your vette is wanting some naws! Lol
lol... its ok. everything is on hold till i beat the racefuel out of it. lol
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popo8
05-06-2013, 12:31 AM
btw...are pistons in an 85 tpi hyperutectic...or cast?
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96lt1m6
05-06-2013, 09:20 AM
btw...are pistons in an 85 tpi hyperutectic...or cast?
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Cast pistons until the Lt1 came out then it was all about the hypereutectic and high compression;)
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popo8
05-06-2013, 10:25 AM
Cast pistons until the Lt1 came out then it was all about the hypereutectic and high compression;)
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and cast can take an n2o hit?
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Sahara54
05-06-2013, 10:49 AM
Here's an article from carcraft, not much tech just destruction but gives you a hint at how tough a SBC is.
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0406_nitrous_350_chevy/viewall.html (http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0406_nitrous_350_chevy/viewall.html)
Ghettogmc23
05-06-2013, 12:28 PM
That's a good article.
Main thing I've learned about hypereutectic pistons is they have a higher silicone content. They're not much weaker than cast but don't hold up to heat as well. So either way your durability would be about the same when it comes to nitrous.
If it was pinging like you said it may have weakened your pistons a bit, a nitrous shot might be enough to break something that's already a little stressed. However with this being your backup backup dd I'd say it'll handle it lol. Just keep it fueled up n keep the timing right, the amount your looking to spray shouldn't have any force like the one in the article lol unless you hit it in low RPMs
popo8
05-06-2013, 12:34 PM
Printing the article now to read....... Thank You.
96lt1m6
05-06-2013, 04:03 PM
and cast can take an n2o hit?
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All of my 87-92s I ever owned had nitrous on them. :)
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popo8
05-07-2013, 03:42 PM
I was always under the impression that CAST was fragile.
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96lt1m6
05-07-2013, 05:26 PM
It is fragile but not all that bad, trust me we were using Nitrous a very long time ago and even before me. Let me see if I can find this old article of a crossfire injection c4 Corvette that runs N2O with NO mods at all....... searching......
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popo8
05-07-2013, 05:41 PM
It is fragile but not all that bad, trust me we were using Nitrous a very long time ago and even before me. Let me see if I can find this old article of a crossfire injection c4 Corvette that runs N2O with NO mods at all....... searching......
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I have one of a CF vette running 11s on DRs and spray....
96lt1m6
05-07-2013, 05:49 PM
I found the most recent from 07
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0707gm_1984_chevy_corvette/viewall.html
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Ghettogmc23
05-07-2013, 11:49 PM
Forged > cast > hyhypereutectic
you can run a lot of boost and nitrous on any piston, it's all about avoiding detonation and keeping fuel to it to keep the heat down. All forged will do over cast is put up more of a fight against tuning issues. That article pretty well proves you should be okay. Your pretty well set on running it so may as well just start settin it up lol
popo8
05-08-2013, 05:59 AM
thanku guys... lol...
ill start lookin into a kit after ocmd
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popo8
11-09-2013, 11:50 PM
Now that the vette is running 100%.... or close to it.
Can I just do a 50 or 75 shot of dry...without adjusting other stuff?
Chopstix
11-10-2013, 01:27 AM
no....but I am sure other will chime in to the contrary.
I would never run nitrous without a way to adjust timing (easy enough on yours), and swapping plugs to a colder heat range. Also for a dry kit you will need to handle the fuel enrichment to compensate how do you plan on controlling that?
popo8
11-10-2013, 07:28 AM
no....but I am sure other will chime in to the contrary.
I would never run nitrous without a way to adjust timing (easy enough on yours), and swapping plugs to a colder heat range. Also for a dry kit you will need to handle the fuel enrichment to compensate how do you plan on controlling that?
idk... thats y i was askin if it was a small enough shot if i could just spray and go. lol
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Chopstix
11-10-2013, 09:20 PM
Nitrous is not something you just throw on and go....if you don't have a way to accurately control fuel enrichment then dry is not an option
popo8
11-10-2013, 09:28 PM
Nitrous is not something you just throw on and go....if you don't have a way to accurately control fuel enrichment then dry is not an option
Thats why I ask.
I didnt know if there is a small enough shot that is "throw on and go"
Have a friend with a busa... he hits it with a 40 shot on a weekly basis... dry.
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SSlowBoat
11-10-2013, 09:40 PM
^thats what she said! i wouldnt ever run dry, i had a buddy with a built c5 vette doing a big dry shot and he blew up his intake mani when his controller bugged one time
popo8
11-10-2013, 09:43 PM
^thats what she said! i wouldnt ever run dry, i had a buddy with a built c5 vette doing a big dry shot and he blew up his intake mani when his controller bugged one time
lol... doh!
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firebird_1995
11-10-2013, 09:54 PM
I've never ran it before but SexyTransAm is pretty nitrous-literate. Maybe he can chime in on the dry shot. A 50hp dry shot just to get the system in and play with doesn't seem like it would hurt as long as the fuel system has enough capacity.
popo8
11-10-2013, 10:00 PM
Im always lookig to learn. Id just love to see my vette hit the 13s now that its running right. Im thinkin a small shot and gears will get it there. it did like 14.8 huffing fuel out of the exhaust.
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SexyTransAm
11-10-2013, 10:06 PM
A 50 hit will be just fine on stock plugs and timing, I hit my car stock with a 125 wet and just changed plugs and never got any detonation . But u will need to make sure the fuel can keep up with that dry shot. Most dry kits do that by jackin up fuel psi.
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popo8
11-10-2013, 10:16 PM
A 50 hit will be just fine on stock plugs and timing, I hit my car stock with a 125 wet and just changed plugs and never got any detonation . But u will need to make sure the fuel can keep up with that dry shot. Most dry kits do that by jackin up fuel psi.
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so i can just turn up the fp...amd timing can stay the same?
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SexyTransAm
11-10-2013, 10:24 PM
This should cover it for ya. Iv used this to show others how it works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leE4eyBLadM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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SexyTransAm
11-10-2013, 10:25 PM
And timing will be fine on that small a hit.
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popo8
11-10-2013, 11:26 PM
This should cover it for ya. Iv used this to show others how it works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leE4eyBLadM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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And timing will be fine on that small a hit.
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Thanku!
Great video!
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