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CamaroZGuy
12-18-2012, 05:09 PM
THIS IS NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE HERE.

why the hell do peole spend thousands of dollars on well thought out either NA or boosted engines then slap some power killing off the shelf cam or stock heads!? i am not talking about just LTx engines, but people from every engine world. it just buggs the hell out of me when i am talking to some one about a killer car they got then bam! crap parts used to get in on the road sooner for 100$ cheeper. its just crazy to see a $10,000 boosted engine barly break 400rwhp because some one did not want to spend the extra money to get a proper cam speced out.......Rant over...cant think straight...

jaysz2893
12-18-2012, 05:18 PM
because there is alot of ignorance out there and ppl like fast and cheap for answers.. plus the internets if full of bad info

popo8
12-18-2012, 05:25 PM
I dont know.

But its good to vent.

94Blackbird
12-18-2012, 05:44 PM
It's because people spend all this time and money, and when the light is finally at the end of the tunnel, they get impatient and try to hurry to the finish line. Or they are ignorant or lack the where with all to double check information ( Before I believe something, I try to find it in at least three different places by three different people who aren't quoting one another ).

30thSSclone
12-18-2012, 05:47 PM
Fast, cheap, reliable...pick 2

CamaroZGuy
12-18-2012, 06:14 PM
i know for me, i think about every steep several times build it in my head, then talk to other very knowledgeable people and get input. maybe its just my curse to over think stuff, but if i am spending that kind of money i deff want it to be worth is in the long run.

mainly what set off this rant was talking to LS guys and them wanting to use a massive cam because "it sounds cool" when it would hurt there motor more then help. i will say i am not the best when i comes to spec'ing stuff like that, but over the past year i have been planing out my build i have talked to MANY experts and have listed and learned from there words. and trying to pass on the knowledge, i get the deer in headlight look or i drive a LTx so im dumb...

BIG CAT
12-18-2012, 06:14 PM
it think a lot of the low power on boosted cars is also due to poor tuning. the few mail order tunes i have looked at are just shit imo.

popo8
12-18-2012, 06:18 PM
it think a lot of the low power on boosted cars is also due to poor tuning. the few mail order tunes i have looked at are just shit imo.


I dont think any boosted cars should thrash on a boost tune.... my shit dyno tune to the guys who knew what they were doing was just under 100 extra hp... and night and day driveability!!!

jaysz2893
12-18-2012, 06:20 PM
and them wanting to use a massive cam because "it sounds cool" when it would hurt there motor more then help

Yeah, why does this alwys seem to happen? Part of the internets bad info i assume..

popo8
12-18-2012, 06:24 PM
I just did what LE told me to do.... (cause I didnt know any better.) lol

CamaroZGuy
12-18-2012, 06:28 PM
I just did what LE told me to do.... (cause I didnt know any better.) lol


Lloyd will forget more then i will ever learn about topends! LOL

97firehawk
12-18-2012, 06:31 PM
Lack of cash that's what killed my build . And i think its also lack of information and bad advice from LS guys that failed to make an LT1 make power.

Mystery Bird
12-18-2012, 06:56 PM
THIS IS NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE HERE.

why the hell do peole spend thousands of dollars on well thought out either NA or boosted engines then slap some power killing off the shelf cam or stock heads!? i am not talking about just LTx engines, but people from every engine world. it just buggs the hell out of me when i am talking to some one about a killer car they got then bam! crap parts used to get in on the road sooner for 100$ cheeper. its just crazy to see a $10,000 boosted engine barly break 400rwhp because some one did not want to spend the extra money to get a proper cam speced out.......Rant over...cant think straight...


Goosfraba...

popo8
12-18-2012, 11:58 PM
Whats goosefraba?


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

94Blackbird
12-19-2012, 05:47 AM
Whats goosefraba?


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com


I think it's similar to woosa

popo8
12-19-2012, 06:01 AM
I think it's similar to woosa

Lol... Ok... That one i know


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

Mystery Bird
12-19-2012, 08:48 AM
Whats goosefraba?


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
LTXtech.com

Movie quote. Anger Management

jaysz2893
12-19-2012, 08:56 AM
not to hijack, but I have a bit of a rant from another topic. i took care of LTX_outlaw yesterday VIA pm.. i think he is on the right track now and this is not direted at him.
For everyone else, DO 100% NOT believe Autozone, Advance Auto, NAPA, Dealer, buddy that fixes lawn mowers, the bum on the corner, or that other tech when it comes to our cars especially 1992-1993 ltx motors. These cars are getting old and parts are getting mistaken for the wrong ones. The local parts store has access to only thier inventory and how they catergorize things. I can not tell you how many times I had to just go with the correct part in hand or a good known part number to any parts store or my dealer to get the right parts. It is worse with my even older cars.. try finding a carb kit for a 1963 corvair with a factory turbo. How I led LTX_OUTLAW down the right path was some simple google searches and using shboxes site..I dunno how many times that simple combination of 2 actions has saved my ass with my camaro. Also I feel that we are a great community and the is A LOT of knowledge here. PLEASE try to believe most of what peolpe here are telling you. Many of us have been doing these motrs for a long time. My car may not be a 700HP monster but I have personally touched every part of the damn thing in the past 11 years and know what a lot of ppl are going through. Sometimes i feel like my comments as well as others here fall on deaf ears becasue it is not the answer the OP was hoping for or expecting. These cars are frustrating but not impossible. With a litte educated guessing, good question asking / answering, good listening skills, an open mind, and the ability to live through the frustration you can and will solve the LTx issues. /rant

CamaroZGuy
12-19-2012, 11:33 AM
Also I feel that we are a great community and the is A LOT of knowledge here.

YES!!! i know i try to pick the minds of thoes smarter then me, and i see too often people ignoring the knowledge and advice of the "gurus"

GreenZ96
12-19-2012, 11:37 AM
Not to sound like an eh-hole, but
I wouldn't worry about what others do or spend on their cars.
If someone wants to drop that kind of coin on a "bought" car, let em. Most of those folks just want something to brag about.
A flashy ride that looks and sounds cool so they have something to show off to their friends.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

Dangerous95lt1
12-19-2012, 11:41 AM
Hey now i work at napa lol!

jaysz2893
12-19-2012, 12:36 PM
Hey now i work at napa lol!


sorry, but i did say not to 100% Believe.. 99.999% is fine.. LOL

jaysz2893
12-19-2012, 12:40 PM
YES!!! i know i try to pick the minds of thoes smarter then me, and i see too often people ignoring the knowledge and advice of the "gurus"

As do I and I am no means a guru when it comes to the hardcore power stuff, but my car has plauged me with all kinds of the typical crap that goes wrong and I feel i ahve a good working knowledge of it.


Not to sound like an eh-hole, but
I wouldn't worry about what others do or spend on their cars.
If someone wants to drop that kind of coin on a "bought" car, let em. Most of those folks just want something to brag about.
A flashy ride that looks and sounds cool so they have something to show off to their friends.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2
I agree, it is there money. My rant is more about ppl that want to DIY it and then ignore others that DIY and are sucessful. Again not directed at anyone in particular here or anywhere. I see this happen in real life in all kinds of situations.. dont get me started about work.. LOL

ZGOBYBY
12-19-2012, 12:45 PM
This rant is a direct illustration of a local '04 GTO with an STS setup with a lumping giant cam in it. It's just plain stupid.

shownomercy
12-19-2012, 02:25 PM
You are just hating, stock heads means I will see higher boost numbers.

ginoz28
12-19-2012, 11:13 PM
CALMDOWN I wont install them stock.

30thSSclone
01-22-2013, 11:49 AM
My turn to rant. Why is is that people just completely ignore your Facebook messages? Facebook told me you saw it, so if you have a problem or whatever...find me annoying...i don't care. Tell me! I will be straight up honest with you. Please tell me so i can unfriend you so you can't pun me off and waste my time.

Sorry for the rant guys. This is why i sometimes find girls to be a huge pain.

NuckinFutz93
01-22-2013, 12:20 PM
I agree with just about everything in this thread, except Clone's facebook bullshit.

Not talking about this forum, but out of 10 pieces of advices from other places, you should onlt believe .5% the other 99.5% is dipshits talking out of thier ass.