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Jayz28
12-16-2012, 09:38 PM
People pick on LT guys down here like crazy. It sucks being all alone LOL.

Anyways, a fellow LTXer got some crap stirred up over his new cam install. Says he can toast a stock LS. So on Facebook, there's like 5 cars lined up to get a bite.

Will a cam only LT1 lose to a stock LS1? Both are M6 full weight cars.

After that, he's got a bolt on GTO that runs mid 12s, A cammed 11' Camaro, and an unknown modded 6.0 car.....

Races are in Mexico.... And the LT has a medium cam, bolt ons, and a mail order tune....

CamaroZGuy
12-16-2012, 09:41 PM
a camed, bolton LT SHOULD run a stock LS....

popo8
12-16-2012, 09:42 PM
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Races are in Mexico.... ..

LOL

Jayz28
12-16-2012, 09:49 PM
Hell yea Popo....

If it was at the track, I'd be bolting up my slicks this week. LoL

Fastbird
12-16-2012, 10:03 PM
A cammed LTx, even a baby cammed LTx, should EASILY run a stock LS1.

MeanTA
12-16-2012, 10:24 PM
track times between a stock LT1 and LS1. is very small. a camed LT will easily out run the LS1

my old TA with cam/1.6 rollers out ran my old 02 SS.

LS1 guys need to realize there 30 or so extra horsepower can be overtaken with a cam.

joelster
12-16-2012, 10:38 PM
Well since Tony Q ran an 11.99 with just bolt-ons i'd say it's pretty feasible to beat a stock-internal LS1.

Featherburner
12-16-2012, 10:46 PM
Define "stock" LS. Stock internals but bolt ons? Or, nothing done to the car?

Fastbird
12-16-2012, 10:52 PM
My old black car, I was running intake/exhaust/tune and ran against a buddy with a intake/cat-back LS1. I beat him, and he was an automatic and I was a six speed. We trapped the same at about 104 but I got out of the hole harder and quicker. Add a cam to that and I'd have walked him bad.

STOCK LS1 vs. bolt on/cam LT1 doesn't stand a chance. Start modding the LS1 though and that changes quick.

blackbird1084
12-17-2012, 01:36 AM
What year is the ls1 car? If its got an ls6 intake it'd be tough to beat. I've seen many m6 stock 01-02' cars run 13.3-13.5's on street tires. The gto he's got no chance, the cammed 2010' will smoke him, and the 6.0 bolt-on car will probably run away from him. The stock m6 should be close. Tires are a must.

Jayz28
12-17-2012, 08:02 AM
The LS is a 99 SS M6 stock to the air filter
03 GTO Bolton M6
11 SS Cam Bolton Auto

LT is decent cam bolton car only.

Hopefully I'll have some vids this weekend. He's got so much crap started, I hope he can back it up....

SexyTransAm
12-17-2012, 08:02 AM
my cam only out ran a full bolt on ls1 all the time, and boy did it piss my buddy off each and every time lol

Jayz28
12-17-2012, 08:04 AM
Oh and the other Camaro is probably a 408 in secret. Or a HCI 6 liter....

Jayz28
12-17-2012, 08:25 AM
LoL well bring it on over towards Pike county and play with these boys.... hehe

blackbird1084
12-17-2012, 08:45 AM
What bolt-ons for the lt car? It should trap between 106-109. Since the Ls car is a 99' it will only be running 101-103. The gto should be running 108-110 so if the guy can drive he should pull the lt car but if not then it could be a good race. Now the 2010 SS would have ran 104-108 stock. With a cam and bolt-ons look for it to be running 112-115. The 6.0 car is a pretty good indication that he probably he H/C/I also and should be running 115-120. Get video!

Jayz28
12-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Headers and CAI.... I forgot, but it never had the gear installed. Probably a 3.23 or 2.73. That killed it right there....

SexyTransAm
12-17-2012, 09:46 AM
LoL well bring it on over towards Pike county and play with these boys.... hehe

shit i may have to. i cant get anyone to run the turd LT1 round here anymore.

Jayz28
12-17-2012, 09:54 AM
LoL there's still action down here sometimes. Well, alot of people talk the talk. Sometimes they race. LS cars rule the street around here. Might be 3 fast LTs in the area....

blackbird1084
12-17-2012, 10:03 AM
That's more than here. Mine is the only fast lt1 here (fast by area standards). Sbc powered 1st gen camaro's and bbc foxes are the fast cars (8.30's-9.50's). Street car wise my wife's 06' gt is one of the faster street cars at 11.67@116.

Jayz28
12-17-2012, 10:38 AM
Well, plenty of street cars running mostly 12s. The faster cars either roll race or don't race at all. I don't race on the street. Im too scared. Lose my license, impound mr car, lose my job. I'm out.....

Lots of 9 sec cars, but they never come out....

blackbird1084
12-17-2012, 11:07 AM
Where do you live? They don't impound cars here. The most you get here for street racing is a careless driving ticket. We do roll races mostly here as well usually on empty highways at 3-4am.

Jayz28
12-17-2012, 11:09 AM
Eastern KY. They wanted to impound my car for loud exhaust, improper takeoff and bald tires....

blackbird1084
12-17-2012, 12:50 PM
Huh? That's bs. Good thing I don't live there.