Booooooooooo..........

[Fastbird]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i177/Fastbird93/IMAG0212.jpg

Fortunately its one of the inside bolts. But still.....boooooooooo!

Posted from my Rooted and ICS'd Rezound

[Badbird_96]

Boooooooooo

What is all that at the top of the pic?

And you have had such trouble with those bolts man.

[97firehawk]

Not good . Ive had the Factory intake bolts stretch like an acordian

[Fastbird]

It's just RTV I was ripping out up top. Fortunately I think only 1 bolt hole is truly fucked, and it's the one that's on the forward side of the #5 runner in the middle, so it can be lived without. But there's a couple other holes that the top 2-3 threads are missing from now too. I can't believe for how little those holes were used that they're pulling like that. Everythings about ready to go back on. Just gotta clean up the manifold surfaces. Found my oil leak, twas the rear of the manifold at the block surface as I thought. First time I've ever botched that. Relocated the OPS to a riser back there, won't happen again (I had to set, lift, and reset last time due to the OPS being directly in the port).

[Badbird_96]

Figured that's what it was. What kind of aluminum are those heads made from?

[Fastbird]

No idea, but they're Trick Flow's so they should be decent. I think the problem is that the shop that built my motor used 1" bolts and it overstressed the top few threads that were being used, considering the factory bolts are 1 3/8" long.

[Badbird_96]

Ah I see..... sue the pigs, take them for everything muahahahaha

[Fastbird]

Nah, it's engines. I've already got the manifold on and everything seems to be snugging up. Cheap wrong sized hardware on aluminum is bound to cause problems. Rectifying that though.

[Badbird_96]

Thought you had gotten good bolts?

[Fastbird]

I did and 8 of the 12 are in. I just need to either shorten (not gonna do that) or get standoffs (probably doing this) for the four corner bolts cause they're a hair too long and the holes aren't pass through like the rest. Probably what I'll end up doing is sending the one package of 5 bolts ($17.09 @ Summit, DAMN!) back and exchanging them for some 1 3/8" bolts just so it's all "right". I've got hardware I can use in the interim and it's not hard to change the corners out when the new ones come in.

[Badbird_96]

Ah I understand now. Those are high not as high as I paid for my header bolts

[Tyler Wheat]

No bueno!

[Alex94TAGT]

http://www.timesert.com

[Fastbird]

http://www.timesert.com

Oh wow! Would I have to pull the head to install that? The really jacked up bolt hole is actually pretty accessable so I could do a heli-coil on-car if I do fix it.

[Fastbird]

All done and back together. Exchanging the pack of 1.5" bolts I have left for 1.25" bolts via Summit.....have 1" bolts in there now and two of the four corners aren't liking it so they're not as torqued as they should be, but they'll work for now. Let this puppy sit overnight and I plan to drive it to work tomorrow. I will burn it to the ground if I get another leak at the rear of the manifold.

[Fastbird]

http://www.timesert.com

Ah, you know what, I don't think these would work for the intake manifold bolt holes. The mating surface is not perpendicular to the thread bore. That's a damn shame cause I really like the concept and was gonna call them tomorrow until I realized that. Such a shame.

[Alex94TAGT]

Ah, you know what, I don't think these would work for the intake manifold bolt holes. The mating surface is not perpendicular to the thread bore. That's a damn shame cause I really like the concept and was gonna call them tomorrow until I realized that. Such a shame.

Isn't that what hammers are for? :brows:

I'm honestly not sure if it would work or not -- I'd have to try it myself to be certain. The top lip on those time-serts *might* fit into the bolt recess in the cylinder heads without machining, but perhaps not. I can measure the intake bolt recess on my stock heads with dial calipers (to compare to the timesert lip O.D.), but I'm not sure if the stock heads are cut the same as these TFS heads. Perhaps a helicoil would be easier, albeit they may be more difficult to seal as they are not solid. The time-serts are stronger. At any rate, you could do it without pulling the head, but not without pulling the intake manifold again.

I'd just drive the car now and see how everything goes -- hopefully the intake gaskets hold (-I used gorilla snot / yellow 3M weatherstrip adhesive on mine last time -- don't look forward to pulling the intake again).

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[EDIT]

Looks like the time-serts come with a drill bit to cut a recess ("counterbore") for the lip of the time-sert to sit in. If one side of the timesert's lip sticks out towards the intake mating surface, you could probably lightly grind it down (if the intake gasket doesn't take up the difference anyway).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RvmL0pEphQI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RvmL0pEphQI#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qFSyfY1VLtU

[Fastbird]

I was pondering that myself, but on the TFS heads, there's no recess at all for the threads, they're just straight drilled. Well, there's a larger openin with the threads starting at the point where you get full threads as opposed to partial threads at the top. I do remember the stock heads having a recess clearanced......not on the TFS sadly. I guess if the counter sink bit was set up right it could work...........

I may contact them tomorrow anyway just for clarification and pricing. I can't see it being cheap by any means, but I LOVE the top flange and how it expands at the bottom with a bolt in it. Really well thought out.

I'll be driving the car as-is. It was driving fine last week, I only tore it down today to fix the oil leak.

[Fastbird]

Should update this. YAAAAAAAAY! No oil leak! Got a nice clean seal on everything. Car seems to be running good. Idle is hanging a tad now, at about 800-850 instead of 950-1000 but it sounds mean, lol. Still heating up too much for my likes though. Got to about 215-220 on the gauge today while caught in some traffic that forced me to roll at 2000 RPM at about 25-35 MPH I.E. worst case scenario. Thing I'm going to do some under the nose work and try to redirect some airflow and maybe add a radiator shield to keep air from escaping, then a big puller fan as a last resort. Or a stock water pump, but that means changing the timing cover. Ugh.

[Fixxer99TA]

Always somethin... But, one step closer...

I like it man, good to hear you are able to enjoy it finally too. All that hard work and fine tuning is paying off.

[Fastbird]

Yep. Ordered my new alky control pump today too, so BIG boost coming shortly. Think I'll take the car to a local honda shop and make some flied lice numbers on their dyno.

[Badbird_96]

Maybe they can install vtec while your there

[bigtoyz]

heli coil will clean them bolt holes right up and will be better than new. Around here alot of people will do that with a new motor. And something that all my buddies and I do to our sled motors. I took my new sled pulled it apart and heli coiled the whole thing and put it back together. So its fixable at least.

[popo8]

Should update this. YAAAAAAAAY! No oil leak! Got a nice clean seal on everything. Car seems to be running good. Idle is hanging a tad now, at about 800-850 instead of 950-1000 but it sounds mean, lol. Still heating up too much for my likes though. Got to about 215-220 on the gauge today while caught in some traffic that forced me to roll at 2000 RPM at about 25-35 MPH I.E. worst case scenario. Thing I'm going to do some under the nose work and try to redirect some airflow and maybe add a radiator shield to keep air from escaping, then a big puller fan as a last resort. Or a stock water pump, but that means changing the timing cover. Ugh.

MOST OF THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!

Little closer to LTX SHOOTOUT???

[Fastbird]

Unfortunately no. I'm not going to have the gas money to drive the car there/back (at least $500 to do that) or trailer it either.

[popo8]

ohhhhh :(

TapaTalk ROCKS!!!!

[Fastbird]

But I should still be there at least!

[Badbird_96]

Well that counts lol