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95z28man
07-15-2012, 09:01 AM
My car was painted by Maaco about 6 years ago, I bought the "best" paint job they offered, I'll spare the detail about how crappy the experience was, but long story short, I need to repaint my mirrors and t-top roof black. A couple years after the car was painted (just out of warranty) all the black paint on the car slowly started to fade away, I'm guessing from sun damage. Anyways, I really don't want to spend any more money on exterior mods anymore, I'd rather save it or spend it on performance. Are any of these DIY kits from Duplicolor or Rustoleum any good? I'm not looking for, or expecting a professional job, anything will look better than it does now. Also if anyone has any tips to make the job go a little smoother, I'm all ears. Thanks

jaysz2893
07-15-2012, 09:06 AM
When I get to a real pc later today I will put up my spoiler and stripes. I used duplicolor rattle cans and sanded and buffed them. Turned out pretty damn good. They are laquer and will probally crack over time if exposed to the elements. I am repainting the whole car this fall, but in the interim the rattle can worked well.


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95z28man
07-15-2012, 11:45 AM
I would prefer to use something that will resist fading and cracking under the sun, unless it gets too expensive maybe it would actually be worth it to see how much it would cost to have it professionally done.

popo8
07-15-2012, 11:53 AM
Have the roof wrapped, and just shoot the mirrors with cans..




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Badbird_96
07-15-2012, 12:13 PM
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My drivers door is rattlecanned. Lasted for 2 years until I went to north Carolina to visit Jim (94blackbird) and it started slightly cracking on the top from the heat. I used duplicolor engine paint and clear and then wet sanded with 2000 grit and used a powerball for headlights and buffed it and waxed it. But over an entire roof you will have problems with streaking cause its gonna be hard to get the clear to spray evenly over such a large surface.

Edit - just remember you said ttop bar. That would plenty easy to do. Just got good masking tape and use newspaper for masking it off. I would do it for you if you were close btw don't forget to prep it before you spray it. Needs sanded and wiped down good. 98% of a good paint job be it spray can or spray gun is the prep work.

95z28man
07-15-2012, 04:24 PM
Have the roof wrapped, and just shoot the mirrors with cans..




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Is wrapping expensive?


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My drivers door is rattlecanned. Lasted for 2 years until I went to north Carolina to visit Jim (94blackbird) and it started slightly cracking on the top from the heat. I used duplicolor engine paint and clear and then wet sanded with 2000 grit and used a powerball for headlights and buffed it and waxed it. But over an entire roof you will have problems with streaking cause its gonna be hard to get the clear to spray evenly over such a large surface.

Edit - just remember you said ttop bar. That would plenty easy to do. Just got good masking tape and use newspaper for masking it off. I would do it for you if you were close btw don't forget to prep it before you spray it. Needs sanded and wiped down good. 98% of a good paint job be it spray can or spray gun is the prep work.

Wow, that looks damn nice. I'd never know that was a spray can job. Thanks for the tips, only thing I shy away from is wet sanding. I practiced it on my old hood one time years ago, and I ended up leaving very visible scuff marks everywhere the sand paper touched. I think I was even using 2000 grit too. I would definitely take you up on helping out if you were close, would be a good learning experience.

Badbird_96
07-15-2012, 04:58 PM
I practiced it on my old hood one time years ago, and I ended up leaving very visible scuff marks everywhere the sand paper touched. I think I was even using 2000 grit too. I would definitely take you up on helping out if you were close, would be a good learning experience.

The trick to wetsanding is using ALOT of water. Everything must stay very wet. Plus then using the powerball I used and a buffing compound it slicks and smooths everything. But I do have to say 2000 shouldn't have left any marks it almost feels like notebook paper lol. And any trash on the paper like dirt or dust will cause scratches as well. It should look like its hazed up instead of scratched. Maybe we can take a trip up close to you sometime and we can do some custom paint work.

Oh and thanks I've been painting wheels and such for awhile now.
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Did this rattlecan as well. It was my first attempt at pinstriping as well

zmm95
07-15-2012, 05:49 PM
Buy a cheap detail gun with a 1.0 nozzle and a quart of black paint... 70 bucks maybe? You could spray it outside and it should turn out great and hold up..

Camaro95
07-15-2012, 06:42 PM
^ This

Camaro95
07-15-2012, 06:43 PM
And make sure you get single stage urathane black.

2 or 3 coats and no clear, very easy for a first timer to do a very nice job.

Badbird_96
07-15-2012, 07:04 PM
And make sure you get single stage urathane black.

2 or 3 coats and no clear, very easy for a first timer to do a very nice job.

Beat me to it. Why didn't I think to suggest this method. I personally don't have a big enough compressor and usually have alot of spray cans laying around from engine and brake pieces. Duplicolor engine paint works amazing on brake calipers lol

95z28man
07-15-2012, 08:45 PM
Hm, well I have a cheap 13 gallon compressor, not sure if it's up to spraying paint or not. Depending on the amount and price of the spray cans I need, I think I would rather go that route instead of chance it on my compressor. It works decent for nail guns, but I don't know if I would trust spraying with it or not.

Jesse, if you have any interest in checking out cornfields, cows and Amish Country, this is the area for you lol. I'm hoping to get this done late summer/early fall or else I will probably end up waiting until next spring.

Badbird_96
07-15-2012, 09:06 PM
Hm, well I have a cheap 13 gallon compressor, not sure if it's up to spraying paint or not. Depending on the amount and price of the spray cans I need, I think I would rather go that route instead of chance it on my compressor. It works decent for nail guns, but I don't know if I would trust spraying with it or not.

Jesse, if you have any interest in checking out cornfields, cows and Amish Country, this is the area for you lol. I'm hoping to get this done late summer/early fall or else I will probably end up waiting until next spring.



Lol I just like to see new places and its always worth it to meet ltxers. Only problem is I can't travel for awhile they have us on lockdown for people missing too much time. Miss one day without a doctor's excuse is a write up. Three days is termination. If your late or leave early its considered a full day missed. If your one minute late they hold you an hour, take your per diem, and write you up. This job sucks. Cant wait for it to end or a better job to come up.

On topic does the black look fine when its wet?

Tyler Wheat
07-15-2012, 11:08 PM
Buy a cheap detail gun with a 1.0 nozzle and a quart of black paint... 70 bucks maybe? You could spray it outside and it should turn out great and hold up..

Bingo! It's not hard at all to just paint it. Just be very thorough with your prep work and taping. Painting is the easy part after that. I like using that black plastic to cover for as cheap as it is.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/lt1sierra/CARS/282344_10100697270940412_617138399_n.jpg

Camaro95
07-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Like said before your prep work is how well your paint job will look.

Make sure you knock all the shine off the clear and hit it with a good wax and grease remover before you spray.

Some guys will disagree but if your paint is very well done all you need to do is scuff it up with a scotch brite

But if the paint underneath is really bad I'd almost take it right down with some 220 or so and then hit it with a good high build primer and then go from there. Either way detail gun is best...but you can do some really nice work with a rattle can and some color sanding.

zmm95
07-15-2012, 11:35 PM
all these guys are right, HVLP guns dont require a large compressor ither.

popo8
07-16-2012, 01:52 AM
What is your definition of expensive.... The roof behing ttops should be 150-200 max with a 5 yr or better out door vinyl.

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95z28man
07-16-2012, 06:17 AM
That's a good question, the paint actually used to perfectly fine when it was wet, but now it's gotten to the point where you can see it wet as well. And popo, 150 is a little more than I'd like to spend on it, plus I won't get the experience of properly prepping and painting and seeing how it turns out on my own.

Badbird_96
07-16-2012, 07:29 AM
If it was fine while wet it just needed clear coat on it.

95z28man
07-16-2012, 04:03 PM
If it was fine while wet it just needed clear coat on it.

Haha damn it, if only I had posted here earlier, I would just be taping off and spraying a clear coat... maybe I'll try that first and see if it works? I'll have to wet the roof again to see what it looks like, but IIRC it was becoming visible even when wet.

firebird_1995
07-16-2012, 04:30 PM
I've been dabbling with auto body repair for about 2 years now. I'm definitely still an amateur but I enjoy it much more than turning a wrench. As you acquire more tools the jobs get easier and you will save money. Plus the pride of doing it yourself is nice too. I always said I wanted to get into it, my only regret is that I didn't start sooner.

95z28man
07-16-2012, 04:43 PM
I've been dabbling with auto body repair for about 2 years now. I'm definitely still an amateur but I enjoy it much more than turning a wrench. As you acquire more tools the jobs get easier and you will save money. Plus the pride of doing it yourself is nice too. I always said I wanted to get into it, my only regret is that I didn't start sooner.

I hear you. I wish I never would have taken a break from working with my car like I did. I'm starting to get back into it now, but money is still an issue since I'm trying to find an affordable apartment in my area that has a garage lol. I refuse to leave home without my jacks and tools and I need a garage to store them in and use them. I found a couple places just need to make sure I can afford them in the long run.

95z28man
07-16-2012, 04:56 PM
Hey guys while I'm posting about paint, I had an idea... I'm sure most of you know AZ2ENVY on here, he has the exact same stinger hood as me. I think I want to paint the scoop black similar to his while I've got the rattle cans out. Would I just want to tape off around the scoop, sand the old paint off, then prime, paint and clear coat the scoop? Is that pretty much all I would need to do or is there a better way to make it look nice? And remember by no means am I expecting my first time to look perfect, but like I said earlier, it won't be much worse than the crap job that Maaco gave me.

Badbird_96
07-16-2012, 05:55 PM
Just have to scuff it. Mask it first then lightly scuff it for paint to adhere and wipe it down good and spray.

95z28man
07-16-2012, 08:07 PM
Ok, so don't worry about any kind of primer? Sorry for so many questions but I'm just not sure what applications to use primers and clear coats and which ones not to use them.

Camaro95
07-17-2012, 01:58 AM
Also when you start to paint your clear. Use a masking technique called back masking.

Retape off for your clear about half an inch more around where you actually want your clear. Tape a sheet of masking paper to the edge of the tape and pull the paper back on it's self so you have a rolled edge around your scoop.
And when you clear just Feather the clear into the back mask.

That way to wont end up with a hard line you could feel with your fingers, you still will have a bit of one though.

There is a much better way to explain this but it's late and I'm super tired lol

Badbird_96
07-17-2012, 07:00 AM
Also when you start to paint your clear. Use a masking technique called back masking.

Retape off for your clear about half an inch more around where you actually want your clear. Tape a sheet of masking paper to the edge of the tape and pull the paper back on it's self so you have a rolled edge around your scoop.
And when you clear just Feather the clear into the back mask.

That way to wont end up with a hard line you could feel with your fingers, you still will have a bit of one though.

There is a much better way to explain this but it's late and I'm super tired lol

Hmm never tried that one. Always had a line on my stuff. I will try that next time I do anything.

As for primer if your going way down then yeah you might need it. But as long as the paint is smooth and not cracking or chipping then all you have to do is scuff it. For a professional body respray I would take it down and primer it but the stuff your doing I wouldn't. If you do use spraypaint I highly recommend the duplicolor engine paint and clear for a couple reasons.

1 - its good quality paint.

2 - its easy to work with and is a thicker paint than rustoleum engine paint and that helps with runs.

3 - it resists heat up to like 500°

Also when spraying do light coats and even coats. Go all the way from paper to paper don't stop in the middle. Let the previous coat almost dry then spray the next. Usually I do about two or three coats color then three to four clear. Spray the first coat of clear when the last coat of color is almost dry. Also like stated about wax and grease remover will help you eliminate orange peel and fish eyes. Be sure to let it dry all the way before spraying the first coat of paint.

95z28man
07-17-2012, 02:33 PM
Also when you start to paint your clear. Use a masking technique called back masking.

Retape off for your clear about half an inch more around where you actually want your clear. Tape a sheet of masking paper to the edge of the tape and pull the paper back on it's self so you have a rolled edge around your scoop.
And when you clear just Feather the clear into the back mask.

That way to wont end up with a hard line you could feel with your fingers, you still will have a bit of one though.

There is a much better way to explain this but it's late and I'm super tired lol

Yeah I saw something about that on MuscleCar awhile ago, I forgot what it was called so I figured I would ask and make sure.


Hmm never tried that one. Always had a line on my stuff. I will try that next time I do anything.

As for primer if your going way down then yeah you might need it. But as long as the paint is smooth and not cracking or chipping then all you have to do is scuff it. For a professional body respray I would take it down and primer it but the stuff your doing I wouldn't. If you do use spraypaint I highly recommend the duplicolor engine paint and clear for a couple reasons.

1 - its good quality paint.

2 - its easy to work with and is a thicker paint than rustoleum engine paint and that helps with runs.

3 - it resists heat up to like 500°

Also when spraying do light coats and even coats. Go all the way from paper to paper don't stop in the middle. Let the previous coat almost dry then spray the next. Usually I do about two or three coats color then three to four clear. Spray the first coat of clear when the last coat of color is almost dry. Also like stated about wax and grease remover will help you eliminate orange peel and fish eyes. Be sure to let it dry all the way before spraying the first coat of paint.

Cool, thanks for the tips man. I'm going to go to Pep Boys soon and price out the paint and try to figure out how much I will need to buy. I'm also going to post some before and after pics so everyone can see what I'm talking about here.

Badbird_96
07-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Doin what your doing probably two to three for the ttop and another two to three for the hood and one for the mirrors. That's color. Clear two maybe three cans should do it. If your just clearing the ttop bar then drop those off the color. Should have left over and any cans you don't open you can take back. But better to have two many than not enough

95z28man
07-17-2012, 08:36 PM
Yea I tend to overbuy things when I'm not sure how much to get, then I just hang on to the excess and stockpile it lol

Badbird_96
07-17-2012, 08:47 PM
Well that paint is good for anything. Wheels, suspension, motor parts, brake part, etc

95z28man
07-18-2012, 06:26 AM
If I have enough left over I might do the bumper on my Ram too.

Badbird_96
07-18-2012, 10:30 PM
Be sure to do a write up and pics. I wanna see how it turns out

95z28man
07-19-2012, 06:24 AM
I might get some before pics up later today so you can see what I'm dealing with.

Badbird_96
07-19-2012, 07:51 AM
That would help lol. Have you tried the water yet?

95z28man
07-19-2012, 05:34 PM
Here's the roof damage:

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/IMG_20120719_165501.jpg

Mirror damage, other side is identical:

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/IMG_20120719_165432.jpg

Stinger hood that I want black:

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/IMG_20120719_165447.jpg

Badbird_96
07-19-2012, 05:48 PM
Yeah the hood will be easy. Your going to have to sand the top and mirrors though. Gonna need to use 500 and get any roughness out and all the "white " has to be gone. It will flake off if not. After its good and smooth sand it all with 1000 then 2000 and wipe it down with wax and grease remover and spray it black. Or atleast that's how I would do it. Some will argue the use of 2000 but the smoother your base is the smoother the finish will be and with black everything shows.

Edit - if you notice its the clear wearing off is what's giving you that look.

95z28man
08-10-2012, 07:06 PM
Bought supplies today and sanded the t-top and mirrors down with 120 grit, followed by 400 grit. Wet everything down and it looks nice and smooth. I was going to go up to 1000 grit, but I don't think it needs it. Tomorrow I will degrease and clean, then tape everything off and paint and clear it all. I have some pics and will take more tomorrow then post them with final result.

Badbird_96
08-10-2012, 07:34 PM
Bought supplies today and sanded the t-top and mirrors down with 120 grit, followed by 400 grit. Wet everything down and it looks nice and smooth. I was going to go up to 1000 grit, but I don't think it needs it. Tomorrow I will degrease and clean, then tape everything off and paint and clear it all. I have some pics and will take more tomorrow then post them with final result.

Awesome I've been wondering about this. Glad it didn't take as much to get a nice base

95z28man
08-10-2012, 07:38 PM
Yup, actually when I wet it down, it looked even better than before I sanded it, much smoother and better color, which really makes me realize I should have done this sooner and I may only have needed to do the clear. But I am kinda glad I'm doing the paint as well and getting some experience.

Klrz28ss
08-10-2012, 08:08 PM
Wheres the results? I want to see!!

Badbird_96
08-10-2012, 08:17 PM
Yup, actually when I wet it down, it looked even better than before I sanded it, much smoother and better color, which really makes me realize I should have done this sooner and I may only have needed to do the clear. But I am kinda glad I'm doing the paint as well and getting some experience.

Yeah it never hurts to learn more stuff lol. Will turn out better with paint anyways. Remember to drag the spray off the surface before releasing and overlap half a spray area when going across. If you start or stop on the surface it will be noticeable.

95z28man
08-10-2012, 09:01 PM
Wheres the results? I want to see!!

Should be done tomorrow if all goes well. Weather looks like it should be good this weekend.


Yeah it never hurts to learn more stuff lol. Will turn out better with paint anyways. Remember to drag the spray off the surface before releasing and overlap half a spray area when going across. If you start or stop on the surface it will be noticeable.

Thanks for the tips. One thing I am a little worried about is that I have to paint it outside in the open. It's going to be in the 80's most likely which should be fine, but will the direct sunlight while drying affect anything? Also, it would be just my luck to have a gust of wind throw something on a wet coat, or a bird fly by and drop something off...

Badbird_96
08-10-2012, 09:29 PM
Nah it wont be that bad. I did all my painting outside. Only thing I would watch is if the clear is drying to fast over a large area it will want to do a stripping effect. If it does that after a couple coats wait for it too cool a little. What paint did you get? If you got the duplicolor engine paint I always use, put a light coat and once it gets tacky put a second and so and so then do the same with the clear just keep trucking. I usually do 2-3 coats of paint and 2-4 coats of clear. Can of clear goes alot farther than you think. Let it dry completely before removing tape and pull tape off away from the painted surface. You can remove the paper while it's drying just wait on the edging tape. Also if any wind is blowing be sure to tape off the opposite side of the car alot to prevent over spray. I think that's it. Looks like alot of stuff to remember but its not really that much lol

95z28man
08-10-2012, 09:41 PM
I got 3 cans of paint, 2 cans of clear, all duplicolor engine brand. Thanks for all the great tips, hopefully I will put them to good use tomorrow.

Badbird_96
08-10-2012, 09:56 PM
Your welcome. I will be looking for pics if you get it done. Gotta work so may be slow to the party if you post them. Oh and one last tip. Keep an eye on the weather. If the temp starts dropping fast and the moisture in the air starts rising like a storm is coming it will cause the paint to flash. It with appear to haze up and turn white almost looks like fogged up glass. So check the weather before you start. Also to high a humidity can cause it as well.

Chris
08-10-2012, 11:50 PM
I vote for 20 dollars in vynyl just wrap them Mattte or gloss take 30 minutes look great and no prep

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08-11-2012, 01:27 AM
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95z28man
08-11-2012, 06:30 AM
I vote for 20 dollars in vynyl just wrap them Mattte or gloss take 30 minutes look great and no prep

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The prep work was pretty much done last night, didn't take too long at all. Today I need to use the degreaser and cover things up, then paint. These weathermen are killing me though... last night said today was supposed to be beautiful all day, but I wake up this morning and there is clouds in the sky and they are calling for rain til about noon. I planned on having this done and posting pics by noon, but now it might be this evening or tomorrow morning.

Badbird_96
08-11-2012, 06:57 AM
Can't control the weather though. Any hint of rain I would hold off. If it flashes you have to sand it back off and start over.

95z28man
08-11-2012, 07:05 AM
I'm keeping a close eye on the weather, I would like to get it done today but I will wait til tomorrow if I have any doubts.

Badbird_96
08-11-2012, 07:08 AM
K keep us posted

95z28man
08-11-2012, 11:09 AM
Well guys I guess I should have just stuck with my plan and took a chance on the rain... haven't had a drop yet, but now they are calling for 95-100% chance at 4pm. I don't think that will allow sufficient drying time will it? Tomorrow looks like it will be good all day, but then again, they said the same last night about today...

95z28man
08-11-2012, 04:12 PM
My God, I learned that I shouldn't quit my day job today. Nothing really worked out too well today. From the wind to the heat, not to mention my terrible painting skills lol. So I get everything taped up after fighting the wind. Then when I start painting, the wind continues and is literally blowing my paint stream away as I am painting. That caused me to hold the can closer, then the wind would stop and I would get drips and sags because the can was too close. All in all, I basically gave up after 2 coats and just started layering the paint on fairly thick not really concerning myself with neatness. I may try and wet sand it down and see if I can smooth the coats out but my hopes are not high right now. I don't want to post the pics out of embarassment but I will because I know you wanted to see how it turned out. So here we go:

The taped up pics are after 2 coats I think, the rest are the final outcome.


http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/lefttaped.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/righttaped.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/top.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/rightfinal.jpg

This last one really shows the detail of how bad it looks:

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/95z28man/closeup.jpg


The first two coats actually didn't turn out TOO bad, but once the crap started piling up, I lost faith and kinda rushed to get done. If I can't wetsand and buff this to look half decent, I will probably just strip it off again and save the money for a shop to do it down the road.

Badbird_96
08-11-2012, 04:43 PM
Lol so we learned there isn't a painter in you lmao. Easy fix would be to use wax and grease remover. It will take the paint off or atleast it.did for me. There isn't much hope in fixing that as once you sanded it down to smooth it your probably going to be back where you started anyways. I do wish you lived close I would totally fix it for you. Laying it on thick is bad idea for future reference lol but I've been there with the wind. Could you have pulled it along side your house to block the wind?

95z28man
08-11-2012, 04:57 PM
One side of my house has a tree and the other side is pretty wide open and vunerable to wind. Another thing I forgot to mention was when the cans got low they wouldn't spray horizontally and I wouldn't be able to paint the top part of the t-top nicely. I'm glad I tried it, but I suppose a better suited painting environment would be better for a beginner to learn lol. I'm not even going to attempt my hood until I practice more or have the money to fork over for a pro lol. It's a shame you don't live closer or I would have appreciated the help. I haven't totally given up yet though, I only put one clear coat since I realized it looked like crap anyways, so maybe I can sand through it and then just work on smoothing the paint out and then maybe respray the clear?

Edit: I guess I can't say there is NO painter in me, I actually paint occasionally at work, but using rollers and brushes... maybe I should give that a try on my car? Hmmm?

Badbird_96
08-11-2012, 05:32 PM
Lol are you coming to the shootout? If so we can spray it there :cool: oh and the wax and grease remover only works pre clear :(

95z28man
08-11-2012, 05:38 PM
I hadn't thought about the shootout, never went before. Let me take a look at the details and I'll see if I can do it this year.

Badbird_96
08-11-2012, 05:46 PM
If you can make it there bring the supplies and we can atleast do the hood. If you have the top back down we can hit it and the mirrors. Won't take long if we aren't sanding there.

Tyler Wheat
08-13-2012, 03:55 PM
Don't give up so easily. I'd take it back down and then be patient and wait for a perfect day if you have to do it outside. Is there no garage that you can borrow?

Painting in the wind is what the problem is I'm sure. If you think its your rattle can skills, go out and find some stuff and get your rhythm, distance, etc down. You can do it, I have faith. Just remember to be patient, in both the prep and paint. Its too much tedious work involved to rush at the end to get it finished.

95z28man
08-13-2012, 04:42 PM
Don't give up so easily. I'd take it back down and then be patient and wait for a perfect day if you have to do it outside. Is there no garage that you can borrow?

Painting in the wind is what the problem is I'm sure. If you think its your rattle can skills, go out and find some stuff and get your rhythm, distance, etc down. You can do it, I have faith. Just remember to be patient, in both the prep and paint. Its too much tedious work involved to rush at the end to get it finished.

Yes your right. I got pissed that day lol. I mean, I know that I'm capable of much better work. I've painted my stock rims before and other small things with no where near the issues I had. I just never really did anything quite as involved and noticeable as the roof before and got flustered after the first couple coats looked bad in my opinion. And I have considered sanding it down and trying it again, but I do want to do a little wetsanding first and see what I can do, plus it will be practice wetsanding if I screw it up more lol.

firebird_1995
08-13-2012, 05:11 PM
Lack of prep work is where the majority of poor paint jobs come from. Its also the most time consuming. When I started spraying with automotive paint through a hvlp gun I could get color to lay down nicely but not clear....AT ALL! Matter of fact, I had to sand down the clear twice on the whole side of the car before I figured it out. I needed a smaller tip and more pressure and more practice. Ive got a beat up fenders with about 6 layers of clear on them. Now they lay down like glass. I guess what I'm getting at is, if you have the patience to do the prep work, (which it sounds like you do) then all you need now is to not give up on painting. You'll get it man!

Tyler Wheat
08-13-2012, 05:12 PM
There you go. No need to pay someone for something you can do yourself!

Badbird_96
08-13-2012, 05:17 PM
Good advice guys. If you do come to the shootout I will help you like I said. Practice makes perfect but I with also throw in some assistance lmao

firebird_1995
08-13-2012, 05:26 PM
^ Its also hard to beat hands on training also!

Badbird_96
08-13-2012, 06:40 PM
Any news on if you will be able to make it?

Edit - just noticed it said Amy instead of any lol

95z28man
08-13-2012, 08:05 PM
First off, thanks for all the positive support, I will continue to try and practice. I was just upset that day at myself, I tend to be a little bit of a perfectionist sometimes. But like I said, I have painted better small projects before this, but I just never used to actually do the prep work. This time I did the prep pretty nicely, but chose a bad day to paint and spoiled the whole project lol.

And when is the shootout this year? I saw it's in Bowling Green but for some reason I couldn't find any dates or times?

Badbird_96
08-13-2012, 08:15 PM
Aug 31 is the car show and Sept 1 is the racing.

95z28man
08-13-2012, 08:22 PM
Well that sucks, I was hoping it was in the fall sometime. I will be in Pittsburgh that weekend for the Panthers first game, my best friend is alumni there and getting me a free ticket. Oh well, there is always next year for the shootout, but I will probably have tons of free time this winter if you ever decide to take a trip up here, or maybe I could take a drive as well. Not that it will be any good weather for painting then either lol but maybe I will have my own place by then with a nice garage.

Badbird_96
08-13-2012, 08:51 PM
Maybe so. I would definitely do like the other guys said and do some practice spraying

harner
08-16-2012, 03:28 PM
I am with everyone else - just keep working at it. It's all in the prep.

I did the CETA mod myself in semi gloss. I also did my SLP ram air hood, as well. That was with wet sanding, patience, rattle can, and no clear. I bought two real cheap Harbor Freight guns that I plan on breaking in soon. I primer'd my IROC with this process, and want to throw some better quality primer and flat black on it.

Here's my T/A:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8294/7797499308_a33a741b0d_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/charner/7797499308/)
photo (1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/charner/7797499308/) by chris.harner (http://www.flickr.com/people/charner/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/7797499528_d90197a771_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/charner/7797499528/)
photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/charner/7797499528/) by chris.harner (http://www.flickr.com/people/charner/), on Flickr

1badz
08-16-2012, 05:44 PM
It's salvageable for sure! Just take it back down a couple coats and start again. Prep it and spray it (given better weather and conditions). You can get rattle can to look PRETTY darn good with good prep and wet sanding/polishing after. Going to see if I can get BadBlackZee to post up some pics. He did part of his roof rattle can black and part of his rear quarter panel. You cannot tell the difference from the original GM paint unless you REALLY look closely. Looks great up close.

95z28man
08-17-2012, 03:03 PM
I just need to let my motivation heighten a bit, then hit it again hopefully indoors somewhere. But I'm going to use the leftovers in my cans to practice a little in the meantime.

Badbird_96
08-17-2012, 03:32 PM
Good idea. Can never have too much practice