Leavin the LTx world for good....but [Archive]

The SRZ

05-24-2012, 04:45 PM

There is always a but. LOL Well a brotha is out the LTx game. Part out will be in the comin months as right now it's really hard just lookin at it sitting in the garage. Almost had a mental breakdown yesterday over it. Only other time I had that kind of feeling is when I did snap while deployed 3 yrs ago and the reason for retiring, it was bad for my health literally. 18 deployments will do that to you...eventually. So I suppose a car can be traumatic afterall.

Anywho... I've decided this is my last hurrah with this car, if this doesn't work then its just meant to be even though in the eyes of many that could be said now...myself included when really being objective and honest w/ myself. But screw that, I want my car! So as far as an LTx goes that's out of the question...no matter how much I love the platform, it ain't happening. PERIOD. Even if one was given to me for free.

Plan is let is sit 5 yrs and build my reserve up for something even 5 yrs from now no one would do in a 4th gen....well really 2 of the options are that. I've got 3 to chose from but what would you do and I think most would say the 3rd just so they could see it. Either way one of these options will be done, no more of me doing the work as maybe that's been the damn problem. So w/ out delay.....

1. Custom ZR1 LS9 ditchin the S/C in favor of 101mm turbo
2. Shipped to Speed Inc for a Stage 2 900hp Ls6 TT build
3. Shipped to N.R.E for a LSx 402 or 454 TT 1600hp build. Can't decide which route.

So there you have it and my tenative intentions. Thoughts?

shadowbandit

05-24-2012, 07:26 PM

Or send it to Texas speed for a 427 tt build ;). But I live around speed inc and I just think that there are better shops

Fastbird

05-24-2012, 08:05 PM

Silas, I can't blame you man, I can't at all. You fought the good fight but in the end it just didn't want to happen, and I really hate seeing you go through it. Big props to sticking it out as long as you did. Most wouldn't have.

On another note.......for something that's not been done in an F-Body, how about a World block, bored out as big as it'll go, Earls superdeck for a 500+ CID on teh motor, and then a couple of big as you can fit turbo's. What you have listed above, in 5 years, will have been done. Think big, then go bigger. ........on that note.......AWD conversion too. :D

The SRZ

05-24-2012, 08:07 PM

Or send it to Texas speed for a 427 tt build ;). But I live around speed inc and I just think that there are better shops

And thank you for that input because that's what I need. Don't want to make another costly mistaken so to speak. LMR was on there too but for what I want it has to be start to finish. Couldn't really think of other REPUTABLE shops but the more people give feedback the better decision can be made. I will say TS builds some bad ass engines. Got a guy here w/ a 427 na that's is hella nasty. It pulls like it was already turbo'd. Only thing I didn't like was that they didn't put any arp head bolts on there just factory bolts?
Anyone else?

Silas, I can't blame you man, I can't at all. You fought the good fight but in the end it just didn't want to happen, and I really hate seeing you go through it. Big props to sticking it out as long as you did. Most wouldn't have.

On another note.......for something that's not been done in an F-Body, how about a World block, bored out as big as it'll go, Earls superdeck for a 500+ CID on teh motor, and then a couple of big as you can fit turbo's. What you have listed above, in 5 years, will have been done. Think big, then go bigger. ........on that note.......AWD conversion too. :D

Sean, believe me AWD did come to mind but I have no idea where I'd go to have something like that done. Chip Foose maybe. LOL I like your thinking. :D I'll check out World Blocks too as that didn't occur to me.

DMBlack

05-24-2012, 08:10 PM

Oh crap. You better find a way to hide this thread from Call911!

Sounds like a good plan on the replacement though.

popo8

05-24-2012, 08:21 PM

Oh crap. You better find a way to hide this thread from Call911!

LOL......

The SRZ

05-24-2012, 08:24 PM

Oh crap. You better find a way to hide this thread from Call911!

Sounds like a good plan on the replacement though.

I've known Ben for quite a few yrs and I know how he feels in general about it. I'm of the same position actually but enough's enough and even he would understand my plight. He's seen my car 1st hand and the only one that has that's on this board.

Actually waiting to hear him go off any moment. LOL But it is what it is. I've had this car 16 yrs now w/ only 2 1/2 yrs of raod time. 5 rebuilds and 3 turn key motors from some pretty big names...

This time around I want to drop it off, fly in and drive it back in that order w/ every bug I've ever had resolved.

Fastbird

05-24-2012, 08:41 PM

I've known Ben for quite a few yrs and I know how he feels in general about it. I'm of the same position actually but enough's enough and even he would understand my plight. He's seen my car 1st hand and the only one that has that's on this board.

I shoulda too but my trip timing was all jacked. I'm still sullen about that.

shadowbandit

05-24-2012, 08:50 PM

Fastbird

05-24-2012, 09:15 PM

Silas, if you're going to get crazy with it, why not take the electronics from a C5/C6 Vette and throw it in. You get all the bells and whistles and updated electronics. This is something I've considered because I'm sure it's possible to get it to work. Wiring harness, door/window switches, ect. I think it would make for a neat custom job.

blackbirdws6

05-24-2012, 09:27 PM

Ahh man this kills me but I get it. Honestly, I think you should go any route which brings you back to enjoying the car. If being able to smoke the tires at 100 with a NRE setup, then go for it. I know you like to be unique so if money is nearly becoming no object, put the wants into a list and start talking to the well known shops.

For my own selfish reasons, let me know if you have a nice intake on that blower you may consider parting with ;).

SexyTransAm

05-24-2012, 09:54 PM

holy wow there is crazy talk goin on in here. and im not goin to lie i wanna see it happen! what every ya do go big or go home!

The SRZ

05-24-2012, 11:09 PM

Or u could put a 2jz with a big ass turbo in it never seen that before and sound performance specilizes with turbo systems. Also fast motorsprots is a new shop and I know the own and very good at what they do

Actually it's been done. Someone on LS1tech posted about it last yr or so if not mistaken.

Silas, if you're going to get crazy with it, why not take the electronics from a C5/C6 Vette and throw it in. You get all the bells and whistles and updated electronics. This is something I've considered because I'm sure it's possible to get it to work. Wiring harness, door/window switches, ect. I think it would make for a neat custom job.
That's a little out of my league right there but it is not something I wouldn't entertain.

Ahh man this kills me but I get it. Honestly, I think you should go any route which brings you back to enjoying the car. If being able to smoke the tires at 100 with a NRE setup, then go for it. I know you like to be unique so if money is nearly becoming no object, put the wants into a list and start talking to the well known shops.

For my own selfish reasons, let me know if you have a nice intake on that blower you may consider parting with ;).
Believe me, it hurts bad B. Physically ill but I just can't let it go and get the best of me because I hate the what if's. Can't say I haven't tried that's for damn sure but now I want someone else to give me what I clearly couldn't give myself. The more I think about it the more I gravitate to NRE. Yeah I can do a piece meal job, LB built by TS, PT101, piping etc and do it under 15K but that still means someone has to do the leg work. Good thing is I can salvage some parts from the current setup, fuel sys, FAST, meth kit, BPV, tranny but it's still a piece meal w/ a shop doing the install and that costing another 7K w/ tuning maybe?

Got a status board in the garage working on the list of things needed. I'll keep ya posted on the intake.

holy wow there is crazy talk goin on in here. and im not goin to lie i wanna see it happen! what every ya do go big or go home!
Tell me about it. Still hopin folks throw out some names worthy of doing quality work. In the early stages of all this but it's getting done.

96famaro

05-26-2012, 05:25 PM

I'd put a SRT-10 motor if you wanna be different. They run!! believe me.:jest:
But I can relate to changing your platform.

AChotrod

05-26-2012, 05:48 PM

Lol I tried to ditch my LT1 days for a LSx never found the same joy in it I do with my LT1s. I seriously cant understand why some people have all these issues. With that nobody has ever found the limit of the LT1. Its your car so good luck in whatever you choose.

The SRZ

05-26-2012, 11:41 PM

I'd put a SRT-10 motor if you wanna be different. They run!! believe me.:jest:
But I can relate to changing your platform.
LOL! Now that would be different for sure.

Lol I tried to ditch my LT1 days for a LSx never found the same joy in it I do with my LT1s. I seriously cant understand why some people have all these issues. With that nobody has ever found the limit of the LT1. Its your car so good luck in whatever you choose.
I wish I knew the answer as to why some are extremely blessed w/ their setups and others aren't. As for the limit of the LT, I think that's been done by Baxter in the low 8's back in the mid to late 90's.

Believe me, there's nothing more I'd give to see my current setup run. I've been contacted by a shop and the idea has crossed my mind on them just redoing the engine and sorting out all my perceived electrical issues, it'd be hella cheaper than what I'm planning to do. It's cool to see modded out LTx's period as they're rarely seen. I'm doing a road trip this wk to do a tour of the shop and staff and maybe that'll help me more in my decision making process. They may even talk me out of it for all I know.

CALL911

05-27-2012, 10:46 AM

The SRZ

05-27-2012, 01:50 PM

Silas,

You are one of my fellow die-hard LTX guys. Nothing pains me more than seeing this happen. Knowing just a small little bit about whats going on with the car, I know its no easy fix. If it were me, I would not be able to make the decision you did. After what you've invested, something like this would not be worth it to me not to get it fixed and finally see it run how it should have all this time, at least if nothing else, just finally be done how it should to bring "good" closure to all the years of hard work you have done to it.

I won't beat you up on the thread as I have others because your mentality is different than others that just wanted to go to the dark side for common reasons, and you and I go back too far for me to do that to you ever.

You are a good friend of mine, and have been for years. It's sad to see this day come.
Thanks Ben. Now I feel like shit. LOL! Indeed we go way back and given the fact you've seen the car it sucks even more knowing I will no longer be apart of the LTx community, this is where my heart is and always will be. I just got off the phone w/ my potential future builder discussing my options. He's done past setups using what I'm currently running w/ the XIM etc and he offered to take a look at it when my schedule permits. SO tempting but I couldn't bare more heartbreak w/ that thing if he too were unsuccessful w/ it (4 other pro's have looked and scratched their heads on this one btw). I want to know the root cause whether mechanical, electrical or both for that matter. But that's where it'd have to stop, I just don't have the energy or mental capacity to deal w/ the platform. Bad luck, timing, whatever it is...I'm worn out from it--exhausted and for that I have to move on. May not make sense to some but 10yrs and counting of inconsistency is my limit.

Thanks for the support. How's that beautiful house coming along?

96LT1355Z28

05-27-2012, 02:12 PM

You may consider Larry Larson of Larson Race Cars. He's the man to talk to when it comes to twin turbo Moran engines and small tire cars on the street. (816) 690-7555 his shop is in Oak Grove, Missouri and cars are showing up from all over the country to have work done. Actually aomebody just shipped a car form Australia to have some work done!

http://larsonracecars.net/

CALL911

05-27-2012, 02:40 PM

Thanks Ben. Now I feel like shit. LOL! Indeed we go way back and given the fact you've seen the car it sucks even more knowing I will no longer be apart of the LTx community, this is where my heart is and always will be. I just got off the phone w/ my potential future builder discussing my options. He's done past setups using what I'm currently running w/ the XIM etc and he offered to take a look at it when my schedule permits. SO tempting but I couldn't bare more heartbreak w/ that thing if he too were unsuccessful w/ it (4 other pro's have looked and scratched their heads on this one btw). I want to know the root cause whether mechanical, electrical or both for that matter. But that's where it'd have to stop, I just don't have the energy or mental capacity to deal w/ the platform. Bad luck, timing, whatever it is...I'm worn out from it--exhausted and for that I have to move on. May not make sense to some but 10yrs and counting of inconsistency is my limit.

Thanks for the support. How's that beautiful house coming along?

I know the long history with the car. Otherwise I would say just take some time away from it for a bit. But like you said, its been in the works for a decade, and mortal man only have so much patience. FWIW buddy, I am sure this decision was one of the hardest for you ever. I hate to say it, but it may also be one of those that haunts you after its gone.

Have you considered keeping the car itself for sentimental value, and perhaps just going with another combo (maybe one that is done and just needs to be put in the car)? Knowing the large decision it was, I'll bet you considered just about every option. I just think your long term mental health may be better with the car running properly rather than letting it go out of your life like this. Then again, your current mental stability with the car may just not be able to go through it, and I could understand.

CALL911

05-27-2012, 02:44 PM

Oh, the house is beautiful, but I wonder lately if it will ever be finished. Almost like a big car build, there are un-forseen issues that are constantly needing to be dealt with. At some point it will be done,and it will be one of the happiest moments in my life.

96famaro

05-28-2012, 12:04 AM

I wish I knew the answer as to why some are extremely blessed w/ their setups and others aren't. As for the limit of the LT, I think that's been done by Baxter in the low 8's back in the mid to late 90's.

Believe me, there's nothing more I'd give to see my current setup run. I've been contacted by a shop and the idea has crossed my mind on them just redoing the engine and sorting out all my perceived electrical issues, it'd be hella cheaper than what I'm planning to do. It's cool to see modded out LTx's period as they're rarely seen. I'm doing a road trip this wk to do a tour of the shop and staff and maybe that'll help me more in my decision making process. They may even talk me out of it for all I know.[/QUOTE]

So was it all the electrical issues that ended up making you just pull the plug? I'm recently finishing off my build, went to get it dyno tuned last friday and it made 644 rwhp @ 5850 and started having issues with fuel so I think I'll break 700rwhp once I get that figured out. But the main thing that I enjoy about my Lt1 is how well it drives, giving absolutly ZERO issues! I did the 24x conversion and its running sooooo good I'm very happy with it.

The SRZ

05-28-2012, 01:03 AM

So was it all the electrical issues that ended up making you just pull the plug? I'm recently finishing off my build, went to get it dyno tuned last friday and it made 644 rwhp @ 5850 and started having issues with fuel so I think I'll break 700rwhp once I get that figured out. But the main thing that I enjoy about my Lt1 is how well it drives, giving absolutly ZERO issues! I did the 24x conversion and its running sooooo good I'm very happy with it.
No it's not an electrical issue from what we can tell. Used another FAST system and got the same results. Pulling the motor later this summer and having it thoroughly checked out only to find out nothing is wrong w/ it as we know. Then I'll be parting it out as a short block w/ video on an engine stand showing that it runs or parting it out individually. My part out list is all ready to go but won't post it til Aug/Sept timeframe.

What are you running for a fuel system? Dual walbros, what size inj's? W/ those numbers and getting the fuel sorted out you'll see 700's I'm sure. Glad you got it running and are happy w/ it as there isn't nothing like a stout LTx out on the streets! :D

Neil350

05-28-2012, 08:12 PM

I can't blame you, you held out a lot longer than I would have.

Tricked-Out-Toy

05-29-2012, 07:42 AM

Just a quick question, were you using the 24x crank reluctor from efi connection or the opti for your crank signal?

The SRZ

05-29-2012, 12:50 PM

Neil350. I wonder myself how I've done it all these yrs and why.

Just a quick question, were you using the 24x crank reluctor from efi connection or the opti for your crank signal?

Using a opti that's been converted for cam sig only. Opti was tested prior to shipping and so was the back up I had made by Brian Macy.

Neil350

05-29-2012, 03:32 PM

Neil350. I wonder myself how I've done it all these yrs and why

Yeah, we've been in this game fir a while dude. I remember the days of the speeddensity board. I just think that car is so close, I'd ditch the XFI for a 24X. I know you've made your mind up, but I'd love to see that car run

Fastbird

05-29-2012, 03:57 PM

Yeah, we've been in this game fir a while dude. I remember the days of the speeddensity board. I just think that car is so close, I'd ditch the XFI for a 24X. I know you've made your mind up, but I'd love to see that car run

Which SD.org version? lol

Silas, I'm with Neil. Gut the wiring, 24x conversion, it'll run. Only crappy side is the price.

The SRZ

05-29-2012, 06:27 PM

Which SD.org version? lol

Silas, I'm with Neil. Gut the wiring, 24x conversion, it'll run. Only crappy side is the price.

Might be a viable alternative. Selling just the XFI and XIM minus the harness might get me 1300 bucks or at least 1K. Then all I'd need is what, the cam sensor, harness, pcm as I have the coils already. What else am I missing?

Fastbird

05-29-2012, 06:44 PM

Silas, you coud ditch the harness too and get like $2K for everything, and its $2300 for the complet EFI 24X setup with a new wiring harness too.

blackbirdws6

05-29-2012, 09:07 PM

Silas, you coud ditch the harness too and get like $2K for everything, and its $2300 for the complet EFI 24X setup with a new wiring harness too.

Really not a bad option at all.

Neil350

05-30-2012, 11:12 AM

Might be a viable alternative. Selling just the XFI and XIM minus the harness might get me 1300 bucks or at least 1K. Then all I'd need is what, the cam sensor, harness, pcm as I have the coils already. What else am I missing?

Plus you go back to a factory PCM like the in your C5, with OEM trouble codes like in your C5 and the LS1 PCM runs every thing like it would in your C5. I can think of 4 blower LT1s with 24Xs making over 600rwhp, three of them are over 700rwhp, 2 of them are well over 800rwhp. In race cars the after market PCMs seem to be o.k but in street cars they seem to be a nite mare. I have a friend going through hell with his AEM in his twin turbo Viper, now he's putting a Pro EFI on that car. You know the motor is good, the blower is good, the trans is good, the rear is good, the fuel system is good, where does that leave you? Throw a cover over it, you have a lot of money in that car, parting out your going to get pennies on the dollar. You'd basically be throwing it away. Sell the XFI stuff, go on vacation, Aruba is nice, Joren Vandersloot is locked up so the beaches are safe, when you get back do the 24X. The new wiring harness is nice, my 93 harness was hacked and old. Was really nice to put a brand new harness on the car. Plus EFI Alchemy in Florida has a lot of 24X experience, whats the worst that happens, your nite mare ends and your car makes power and scared the shit out of you? I'd be more pissed looking back never getting that bad ass set up you have to work, that shits straight beast mode waiting to kill, just time to simpilify it and add some stockish parts to the mix. That guy karl Elwin? has done the 24X covers for the bigger crank hub like you people (blower guys)like to run. So if you got a double roller, you'll need one of their covers.

AChotrod

05-30-2012, 11:51 AM

Tricked-Out-Toy

05-30-2012, 01:50 PM

I was talking with Jim (the tuner) at Speedinc and he told me not to go with a aftermarket PCM like a BS3/Fast etc, but to go with the 24x and LS PCM set up. Says its way better and will support over 1000hp.

I think maybe he was smoking crack that day lol. How can anyone say the stock PCM, with all its extra bullshit and stupid tables that drive you crazy is better than an aftermarket engine management system!? Especially a boosted setup!? I had the LS PCM and it took an hour to get it to do what I got the FAST to do in 5 mins... There is NOTHING about the stock PCM thats better than a BS3/FAST/Holley... I would like to hear why Jim thinks that...

The SRZ

05-30-2012, 05:30 PM

Plus you go back to a factory PCM like the in your C5, with OEM trouble codes like in your C5 and the LS1 PCM runs every thing like it would in your C5. I can think of 4 blower LT1s with 24Xs making over 600rwhp, three of them are over 700rwhp, 2 of them are well over 800rwhp. In race cars the after market PCMs seem to be o.k but in street cars they seem to be a nite mare. I have a friend going through hell with his AEM in his twin turbo Viper, now he's putting a Pro EFI on that car. You know the motor is good, the blower is good, the trans is good, the rear is good, the fuel system is good, where does that leave you? Throw a cover over it, you have a lot of money in that car, parting out your going to get pennies on the dollar. You'd basically be throwing it away. Sell the XFI stuff, go on vacation, Aruba is nice, Joren Vandersloot is locked up so the beaches are safe, when you get back do the 24X. The new wiring harness is nice, my 93 harness was hacked and old. Was really nice to put a brand new harness on the car. Plus EFI Alchemy in Florida has a lot of 24X experience, whats the worst that happens, your nite mare ends and your car makes power and scared the shit out of you? I'd be more pissed looking back never getting that bad ass set up you have to work, that shits straight beast mode waiting to kill, just time to simpilify it and add some stockish parts to the mix. That guy karl Elwin? has done the 24X covers for the bigger crank hub like you people (blower guys)like to run. So if you got a double roller, you'll need one of their covers.
That's cool Karl has timing covers made. I've never had an issue w/ my FAST and it's a lot easier to deal w/ than a stk LS pcm. Like TOT said, way too many tables to mess w/ it. I will give it credit though for being leaps and bounds superior to anything LT pcm related though.

I think maybe he was smoking crack that day lol. How can anyone say the stock PCM, with all its extra bullshit and stupid tables that drive you crazy is better than an aftermarket engine management system!? Especially a boosted setup!? I had the LS PCM and it took an hour to get it to do what I got the FAST to do in 5 mins... There is NOTHING about the stock PCM thats better than a BS3/FAST/Holley... I would like to hear why Jim thinks that...

I'm w/ you on that. Even in street applications it's far better but I understand people loving the simplicity of install vs aftermarket. That can be a pita sometimes.

AChotrod

05-31-2012, 12:56 PM

I think maybe he was smoking crack that day lol. How can anyone say the stock PCM, with all its extra bullshit and stupid tables that drive you crazy is better than an aftermarket engine management system!? Especially a boosted setup!? I had the LS PCM and it took an hour to get it to do what I got the FAST to do in 5 mins... There is NOTHING about the stock PCM thats better than a BS3/FAST/Holley... I would like to hear why Jim thinks that...
He tunes some of the fastest LS cars in the world. Pretty sure he knows what hes talking about and could tune the LS pcm with no issues. Plus a factory type replacement just leaves less room for errors during the install. I dunno. I was going to go aftermarket and he told me not to.

Tricked-Out-Toy

05-31-2012, 02:16 PM

He tunes some of the fastest LS cars in the world. Pretty sure he knows what hes talking about and could tune the LS pcm with no issues. Plus a factory type replacement just leaves less room for errors during the install. I dunno. I was going to go aftermarket and he told me not to.

I agree 100% with the factory hard parts. Like sensors. Which is why i used the EFI Connection stuff for my FAST setup. Using external crank triggers can be a pain. BUT none of the fastest LSx cars in the world run a stock Pcm.... I don't know why he would tell you not to run an after market Pcm. I would really like to know his reasoning. The built in features of after market engine management systems are amazing.

Here's a great example. An x275 car running a big block and twins was doing testing two weeks ago and halfway through the run the alternator crapped out! The Holley EFI Pcm was setup with a nice fail safe so that if the voltage drop it would add and extra 30% fuel to account for the fuel pressure drop associated with the alternator falling off. This was before the engine ever saw a lean condition. At1600 HP it would have toasted itself running lean at 30+psi....

Can you be fast with a stock Pcm ABSOLUTELY. But when given the choice I don't know a single racer that doesn't jump for a BS3/FAST/Holley setup

Tricked-Out-Toy

05-31-2012, 02:30 PM

Another thing. You mentioned wiring being a problem or less errors with a factory setup... Are you sure? I had to completely rebuild my LSx PCM harness from scratch when I did mine and it was a BITCH! The FAST wiring was complete all I had to do was connect power and grounds and two wires between the XIM and XFI. I use a FAST XFI LTx harness and a FAST LSx XIM and they were plug and play and used the GM sensors. I thought that was to easy so I stripped out any extra connectors that my setup wasnt using...

AChotrod

06-01-2012, 12:54 PM

Dont they sell a complete harness? If we were talking 2k HP cars the LS pcm wouldnt be an option. Im not totally up to date with the SRZs build but the 24x should be able to handle it. How many times do you read about the aftermarket stuff failing? Seems like it happens all the time to me or theres always some kind of issue.
Either way I think its a bullet proof option that should work for him.

QC97Z

06-04-2012, 09:43 PM

I can think of 4 blower LT1s with 24Xs making over 600rwhp, three of them are over 700rwhp, 2 of them are well over 800rwhp.

I'm in the 600+ Club...and since dyno day, Mine has run great without a hitch.
EFI Connection sells a double roller timing cover that TPiS makes I believe. They also make a version for the larger crank hub (Which I run...but I had a stock timing cover modified to fit the large hub). BlackBirdWS6 is running the TPiS/EFI Connection cover I think.

I was talking with Jim (the tuner) at Speedinc and he told me not to go with a aftermarket PCM like a BS3/Fast etc, but to go with the 24x and LS PCM set up. Says its way better and will support over 1000hp.

Jim tuned mine...and had zero issues. Loved the simplicity of the LS1 PCM on an LT1 setup. I was fully tuned and out the door within 2-3 hours IIRC.

Dont they sell a complete harness? If we were talking 2k HP cars the LS pcm wouldnt be an option. Im not totally up to date with the SRZs build but the 24x should be able to handle it. How many times do you read about the aftermarket stuff failing? Seems like it happens all the time to me or theres always some kind of issue.
Either way I think its a bullet proof option that should work for him.

I agree Mike. I think that this is a good option for Silas to work with for a "hail mary". EFI Connection does sell a complete Plug-n-Play harness (which I have) and it's top notch quality.

The SRZ

06-23-2012, 01:09 PM

Well all that hard work didn't pay off. Story of my life w/ that damn car. LOL Had everything rewired and pwr it up and al systems go. Everything checks out. Redid the crank trigger and got it dialed in, CAM signal is there so I'm good to go. Nope, still won't fire it'll just hiccup. Pull the plugs and their sooty so it's too much fuel, back it off and same results...but my AFR's during crankin are in 17's so it's all jacked up. I reverse and add fuel and my AFR's still read in the 17's during cranking and plugs still look sooty and not fouled out (thank god for that) but I'm stuck. Put the rest of the car back together w/ the XFI is located and try a few other things w/ the cranking table, timing and crank ref angle and still nothing. Hook a brand new battery since the boxes are fickle w/ voltage and nothing. It acts like it wants to but won't under any circumstance. :( Then the cam signal dissappears again but have a CAM light on the XIM still. WTF? Now I'm pissed.

It has to be the motor as in I broke all or most of the ringlands or something. Well I'm going to go ahead and get a FAST guru in the mix down in Melbourne in Cal Hartline to go over the entire setup regarding the FAST boxes. Rewire the bitch w/ a new harness etc. If he doesn't get it running then NO one can because that indeed will indicate it IS the brand new old motor. And if that's the case, gonna be a lot of parts for sale. I'm not interested in another rebuild as it'll be my 3 turnkey and 6th rebuild if I go that route.....