Dyno Day

[popo8]

(no need for "help." Mobile app won't let me turn it off.....


ANYWAYS...... 330 appt to get the Z back on the roller! As u know.... Odds are i won't publicly share numbers..... But Im very EXCITED and NERVOUS....



TILL THAT TIME: anyone want to guess on my numbers. If the majority of guesses are within 25 hp, Ill post up the real numbers.....

[BIG CAT]

The numbers will depend on how hard they lean on it. You can tune it up till the rods come out and it will still be picking up power.
625 to 650 would not be really hard to get esp with a stick car.

[waggl1]

I'll aim for 615/650 and that's just pulling it out my ass because I'm in class lol

[waggl1]

Granted my buddies made 757/878 at 8psi

[AdamG]

711 not sure about your setup so its just in a shot in the dark

[shadowbandit]

Well I'm thinking 765/820

[Fastbird]

Larry, I think you're going to be in the 600-650 RWHP range with that blower and your setup. You damn well better text me and let me know what's up. :D

[dkd1990]

I think Fastbird is really close to what I would guess at. Anywhere in there would be a good number to achieve. Good luck Larry.

[CALL911]

Well, I would tend to agree with above posts, but since its just a baby P1SC blower, I'm gonna say 575-610 at the tires if he pushes it real hard.

[BIG CAT]

Well, I would tend to agree with above posts, but since its just a baby P1SC blower, I'm gonna say 575-610 at the tires if he pushes it real hard.

i though he had a d1.

[zmm95]

673.9rwhp/ 654.3rwtq is my guess!

[AdamG]

I want to revise mine to 650 ish.

[popo8]

Keep em comming......


Here are some vids of short pulls when we started....

4k base line pull.


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3006406608430

[CALL911]

i though he had a d1.

Nope, weak P1SC. ;)

[popo8]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3007195028140

[popo8]

Nope, weak P1SC. ;)


On your tail... and not close to done tuning..... :whistle:

[Fastbird]

On your tail... and not close to done tuning..... :whistle:

:D This. I can't wait to see the end results man. Your engine is WELL put together at this point I think.

[CamaroZGuy]

DAMMIT I WANT TO KNOW YOUR NUMBERS!!!! LOL

but from what i can pick up, i should defiantly be able to see what i want to with my build even with the slightly smaller heads.

and my guess, fully tuned in P1 BEAST mode...656rwhp....

[popo8]

:D This. I can't wait to see the end results man. Your engine is WELL put together at this point I think.


YES I think I finally have the RIGHT combination... And yes I know bigger numbers would come faster with a bigger blower... but I gotta say I am SOOOOO impressed with the P1 with the 3.55 pulley on it.... and I still have one more pulley drop, to the 3.40. I really do think the way it sits now... I will suprise a few non believers once the HICCUP is cleaned up...

DAMMIT I WANT TO KNOW YOUR NUMBERS!!!! LOL

but from what i can pick up, i should defiantly be able to see what i want to with my build even with the slightly smaller heads.

LOL..... Yes, I believe you will.... Im limited at 5,400 rpms right now, and under 7 lbs of boost... and in "D1" territory... lol

[CamaroZGuy]

sounds like Call911 may have to call 911 to report the assault by a P1.....lol

[popo8]

sounds like Call911 may have to call 911 to report the assault by a P1.....lol


HOLY CRAP!!! THAT WAS AWESOME......

[CamaroZGuy]

he may need to find a new popo to report it to though.... :(

[popo8]

he may need to find a new popo to report it to though.... :(


LOL... nah.. Ill be happy to take the "report."


BTW, does this thread and videos help RE MOTIVATE you???

[CamaroZGuy]

yes, though going for a ride at the shoot out could help some more :D

[popo8]

yes, though going for a ride at the shoot out could help some more :D


I may be able to accomodate that request....

[CALL911]

Hey now, just cause you think you can box...

If you are "on my tail" meaning just under the power I am making, then my guesstimate must have been about spot on accurate.

I do have a couple honest questions for you though;

You say you are getting "hiccups" at 5400 RPM, didn't you have an issue like this before? It may still not be resolved if it is anything like before (just something to consider).

What RPM do you plan on spinning it to? What RPM does your P1SC max out at? You'll want to know what the blower maxes out at and not go beyond it with the smaller pulley (even if the boost numbers are low) as you don't want to over-spin the impellor.

Are you tuning just for a max RWHP number or are you tuning it to drive? You mentioned throwing race gas in it and bumping up the timing to see what it will do. When you have the final tune done, if race gas was used, you will need to run race gas in it every time you drive it from here on out. That can get very expensive, but may be what you were looking to do.

Is this being done with or without the air filter?

I ask, and bring up points just to mention things you may not have considred. Then again, you may have already thought of all of that, but I just wanted to offer you some thoughts.


...Now, CALL911 has beaten cars with more than 200 more RWHP. It has beaten cars that ran a 10.0 in the 1/4 mile. While being raced, two worthy opponents cars blew up. I fear no P1SC car, and would love to settle it up at the track. ...BUT since Larry refuses to race at the shootout, or possibly refuses to share numbers, we'll never know. When you get your hiccup figured out, if you are on my heels now for power, you should surpass my "previously posted" power level. However, you are not the only one changing up their car this year... :devil:

[popo8]

Hey now, just cause you think you can box...

But I can.... ;)

If you are "on my tail" meaning just under the power I am making, then my guesstimate must have been about spot on accurate.

You are close, at a max of 5,400 rpms

I do have a couple honest questions for you though;

You say you are getting "hiccups" at 5400 RPM, didn't you have an issue like this before? It may still not be resolved if it is anything like before (just something to consider).


Yes, however this time we finally realized that throwing more timing at it was making it a smaller hiccup and moving it up the rpm ladder... however we did not want to keep throwing timing at it on pump fuel to determine whether it was a timing issue, or an IGNITION component issue........ so....

What RPM do you plan on spinning it to? What RPM does your P1SC max out at? You'll want to know what the blower maxes out at and not go beyond it with the smaller pulley (even if the boost numbers are low) as you don't want to over-spin the impellor.

I aint scared... lol.. we did the math... Ill be close with the 3.40 to beating it up... but the way I drive the car.. it wont hardly see that......




Are you tuning just for a max RWHP number or are you tuning it to drive? You mentioned throwing race gas in it and bumping up the timing to see what it will do. When you have the final tune done, if race gas was used, you will need to run race gas in it every time you drive it from here on out. That can get very expensive, but may be what you were looking to do.


It is being tuned for everything... remember I DD this car as well...... THe race gas comment was simply for the sake of explaining how we will safely throw more timing at it for experimentation purposes, to determine if it just needs more timing, or if it needs me to review the ignition components....... Not a permanent tune..... just for safe experimentation.









Is this being done with or without the air filter?

WHAT????? WHy would I run it without a filter.... lol







I ask, and bring up points just to mention things you may not have considred. Then again, you may have already thought of all of that, but I just wanted to offer you some thoughts.


Im either on par with your thinking or a step ahead, but I always appreciate insight... thank you ...







...Now, CALL911 has beaten cars with more than 200 more RWHP. It has beaten cars that ran a 10.0 in the 1/4 mile. While being raced, two worthy opponents cars blew up. I fear no P1SC car, and would love to settle it up at the track. ...BUT since Larry refuses to race at the shootout, or possibly refuses to share numbers, we'll never know. When you get your hiccup figured out, if you are on my heels now for power, you should surpass my "previously posted" power level. However, you are not the only one changing up their car this year... :devil:

Remember... Im a cop... I pay attention to conversations....... I picked up on a few things you said.... BOTH F-BODIES ARE DOWN....... FASTBIRD IS GOING TO VISIT YOU....... I see and hear ALL.....


:secret::secret::secret::secret::secret::secret::s ecret::secret::secret:

[CALL911]

Both F-bodies are down, however neither is down currently for anything that will make them go any faster. I know your a cop, but I don't leave evidence, so you won't find what I am doing posted anywhere. Not even Fastbird has all the details on my car. Don't beat yourself up over it. There is always someone faster. In this case, its just me. :D

[popo8]

Both F-bodies are down, however neither is down currently for anything that will make them go any faster. I know your a cop, but I don't leave evidence, so you won't find what I am doing posted anywhere. Not even Fastbird has all the details on my car. Don't beat yourself up over it. There is always someone faster. In this case, its just me. :D


LOL..... ;)

[CALL911]

Alright, so side joking aside; you are going to run race gas and advance the timing just for trouble shooting purposes? Is that number going to be the number you claim? Or will it be the number you do the final tune on with pump gas?

Some guys pull the air filter on the dyno just to get a bigger number (didn't know if you were one of "those guys".

What is the RPM you'll be pulling it to? You said you'd be fine because of the way you drive it, but you never mentioned the RPM.

Your large heads are going to flow so well, you probably aren't going to see a high boost number. You'll see more than now, but its not going to double or anything. But as mentioned to you before, its better to make more power with less boost, as it will be easier on your motor.

[popo8]

Alright, so side joking aside; you are going to run race gas and advance the timing just for trouble shooting purposes? Is that number going to be the number you claim? Or will it be the number you do the final tune on with pump gas?


Of course not... that would be cheating. If I need more octane, Ill just add meth injection, and use those numbers.....


Some guys pull the air filter on the dyno just to get a bigger number (didn't know if you were one of "those guys".

No, Im not one of THOSE guys.... lol

What is the RPM you'll be pulling it to? You said you'd be fine because of the way you drive it, but you never mentioned the RPM.

Oh yeah... IM thinking 6,500 -6,700 if I run it hard... but this thing has yet to see the 6,000 chip thats in the MSD box .... thats what I meant by HOW I DRIVE IT...




Your large heads are going to flow so well, you probably aren't going to see a high boost number. You'll see more than now, but its not going to double or anything. But as mentioned to you before, its better to make more power with less boost, as it will be easier on your motor.


Exactly... Im VERY impressed with these heads, and the LE cam... hell, Im even impressed with my "DOORSTOP" intake..... GFU 05HD!!!!

[CALL911]

Good deal man. Well, if you are making 600ish now at 5400 RPM, another 1,100-1,300 RPM could gain you a bit more. Depending on where your setup peaks at, you might gain another 60ish RWHP if you take it all the way to 6700 RPM.

I'm going to put my official guess for the final numbers at 653 RWHP.


I don't understand why at where you are for timing that it would "hiccup" because it wants more timing. If it is a timing issue though, good call on the meth injection, but I bet your problem lies elsewhere. Let us know of any updates. You said it will be a few weeks?

[popo8]

Good deal man. Well, if you are making 600ish now at 5400 RPM, ...?

I may have messed up by giving that RPM....

It looks like I picked the RPM where we let out of it because of the stumbling.....


It actually peaked at 4800 rpms before that linear craziness.....

[BIG CAT]

Good deal man. Well, if you are making 600ish now at 5400 RPM, another 1,100-1,300 RPM could gain you a bit more. Depending on where your setup peaks at, you might gain another 60ish RWHP if you take it all the way to 6700 RPM.

I'm going to put my official guess for the final numbers at 653 RWHP.


I don't understand why at where you are for timing that it would "hiccup" because it wants more timing. If it is a timing issue though, good call on the meth injection, but I bet your problem lies elsewhere. Let us know of any updates. You said it will be a few weeks?


If i had to guess it blew out the spark or its a fuel delivery problem.

[CALL911]

If i had to guess it blew out the spark or its a fuel delivery problem.

Both good possibilities. I figured it wouldn't be the spark, just because popo had forgotten about that once before, and new that tighter plug gap is necissary for FI, but its possible it may have slipped his mind. Fuel delivery could be an issue, but again, I would think they would have been keeping a close look on the dyno at the fuel pressure and if it was going lean.

[popo8]

I had never forgotten about blowing out spark before.... In fact since my first build ive been gapped from 30 down to 28..... As for fuel delivery.... We had to repeatedly reduce fuel pressure.... done thru the boost refrenced fpr rather thab the tune...... And still the car is on the rich side.

[CamaroZGuy]

I had never forgotten about blowing out spark before.... In fact since my first build ive been gapped from 30 down to 28..... As for fuel delivery.... We had to repeatedly reduce fuel pressure.... done thru the boost refrenced fpr rather thab the tune...... And still the car is on the rich side.

i like to hear that since im running the same pump....

[popo8]

i like to hear that since im running the same pump....


Oh yeah... plenty of fuel...

ALTHOUGH.. tonight, I was going over my AF chart and my hp chart and noticed that at 4700 rpm... right when the car hiccups....... I went slightly lean...(11.0-12.0) from the 10s I was running in.


EXPERTS, here is a pic....


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k110/popo08/1996%20Procharged%20385%20Lt1%20Camaro/AirFuel.jpg

[BIG CAT]

I had never forgotten about blowing out spark before.... In fact since my first build ive been gapped from 30 down to 28..... As for fuel delivery.... We had to repeatedly reduce fuel pressure.... done thru the boost referenced fpr rather than the tune...... And still the car is on the rich side.

you may want to tighten the gap up more. i run .020 and i run a very stout ignition. its good that your not running out of fuel psi. personally i would not lower fuel psi to lean it out. you would be better off reducing the pulse width because most systems like fast can compensate for a lower fuel psi. with my car at 6700 i am running about 78% on a 150lb injector. if for some reason i start to loose fuel psi the computer will use the 02 correction table and keep it from going lean.

[BIG CAT]

Oh yeah... plenty of fuel...

ALTHOUGH.. tonight, I was going over my AF chart and my hp chart and noticed that at 4700 rpm... right when the car hiccups....... I went slightly lean...(11.0-12.0) from the 10s I was running in.


EXPERTS, here is a pic....


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k110/popo08/1996%20Procharged%20385%20Lt1%20Camaro/AirFuel.jpg


if you blow the spark out in 1 hole it will fool the wide band into thinking its lean. also looks way fat early. i would not run it fatter than mid 11's and always trust you plugs they will never lie to you like a wide band can.

[CALL911]

With that lower amount of boost, I still might be a little surprised if he's blowing out the spark.

Honestly that looks a lot fat, and doesn't get to where "I" would consider a GOOD AFR until about 5100 RPM. This is all preference of you and your tuner, but 10.5 that it was at most of the time was way to fat IMO. Ideally most guys aim for around 11.5. Anything leaner than 12.0 and you are entering dangerous lean territory.

I am excited for you Larry! Its coming together now, and its gonna be impressive (for a car you won't race ;), lol JK). I'll give ya this, you've got patience! I could never stop in the middle of the tune like you and wait that long until its back on the dyno to get finished (I am sure this is not by choice, and your hands were probably tied).

[Fastbird]

I wouldn't be surprised if its spark blowing out. Reason being that he's moving a heck of a lot more air than before, even at the low boost number. His VE is a lot higher now and that translates into sheer air movement being higher.

Larry, what ignition box are you running? I ask cause I'm running NGK BR7EF plugs @ .028 at 20 lbs with an Accel 300+ box and coil without blow out issues.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2

[popo8]

you may want to tighten the gap up more. i run .020 and i run a very stout ignition. its good that your not running out of fuel psi. personally i would not lower fuel psi to lean it out. you would be better off reducing the pulse width because most systems like fast can compensate for a lower fuel psi. with my car at 6700 i am running about 78% on a 150lb injector. if for some reason i start to loose fuel psi the computer will use the 02 correction table and keep it from going lean.




if you blow the spark out in 1 hole it will fool the wide band into thinking its lean. also looks way fat early. i would not run it fatter than mid 11's and always trust you plugs they will never lie to you like a wide band can.


Ok, I appreciate that....

Next time on the roller Ill bump the fp back up on the fpr. I think its at an ideling 40-45 psi right now.... When we started it was up in the mid 50s...... Then I can lean it back out with the tune.


Now you said you run .020..... wouldnt that be to tight for a dd street car that does NOT see alot of WOT. Im willing to try anything I just want the car to be at its best on the street, even if it suffers on the dyno or track... because the street is what I built it for....

Also... Im running 1 degree colder plugs... I cant remember what kind, but they are the short ones that AFR suggested...... Do you think I should go another degree colder???

Im also looking to see if I can find a stronger coil than the MSD blaster (the black one) that I am running now.....

Finally, I though that other thread I started, boost people were saying that 10.5 ish is where I wanted to be at WOT.......?

Still learning... THANK YOU...









With that lower amount of boost, I still might be a little surprised if he's blowing out the spark.

Honestly that looks a lot fat, and doesn't get to where "I" would consider a GOOD AFR until about 5100 RPM. This is all preference of you and your tuner, but 10.5 that it was at most of the time was way to fat IMO. Ideally most guys aim for around 11.5. Anything leaner than 12.0 and you are entering dangerous lean territory.

I am excited for you Larry! Its coming together now, and its gonna be impressive (for a car you won't race ;), lol JK). I'll give ya this, you've got patience! I could never stop in the middle of the tune like you and wait that long until its back on the dyno to get finished (I am sure this is not by choice, and your hands were probably tied).

Thanks BEN... that sounds like a very small window... saying that 11.5 is where I want to aim, and anything leaner than 12.0 is dangerous. That leaves me .5 of a window to be safe?????

At 10.0... the car is making POWER fast... If I could post up (which I wont) the HP/TQ chart you will see that prior to that squiggle at 4700 ish.. this thing was sky rocketing.....








I wouldn't be surprised if its spark blowing out. Reason being that he's moving a heck of a lot more air than before, even at the low boost number. His VE is a lot higher now and that translates into sheer air movement being higher.

Larry, what ignition box are you running? I ask cause I'm running NGK BR7EF plugs @ .028 at 20 lbs with an Accel 300+ box and coil without blow out issues.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2

Im running a simple MSD 6AL mounted in the glove box...

[AChotrod]

Shouldnt put it in the glove box. It will get hot and vibrate there.

[popo8]

Shouldnt put it in the glove box. It will get hot and vibrate there.

1" spacers, air circulates around it.... glove box door is open. Stands are rubber for insulation.... problems solved...

[CALL911]

Larry, it may seem like a small window, but your tuner should be able to get your AFR to stay pretty consistant throughout the RPM's at WOT. If you go the meth injection route, you'll see your AFR go a little fat when the meth kicks in, but should lean back out to where it should be. At running 10.0 almost consistantly, you can be on your way to being dangerously rich as well. You just need to get it right where it needs to be at 11.5 (ot wherever you and your tuner feel is safe and ideal). 12.0 is entering dangerous territory lean wise. 12.5 is IN dangerous territory. If your car hit 12.0 momentarily, you should be fine, but that's not where you would want to be throughout your whole RPM band.

If you're making good power with running that rich and another 1,000 RPM to go, then I would say you have a bit more power left out on the table. Maybe even another 100 to the wheels!

Keep us up to date with the progress! ...we eagerly wait

[BIG CAT]

Ok, I appreciate that....

Next time on the roller Ill bump the fp back up on the fpr. I think its at an ideling 40-45 psi right now.... When we started it was up in the mid 50s...... Then I can lean it back out with the tune.


Now you said you run .020..... wouldnt that be to tight for a dd street car that does NOT see alot of WOT. Im willing to try anything I just want the car to be at its best on the street, even if it suffers on the dyno or track... because the street is what I built it for....

Also... Im running 1 degree colder plugs... I cant remember what kind, but they are the short ones that AFR suggested...... Do you think I should go another degree colder???

Im also looking to see if I can find a stronger coil than the MSD blaster (the black one) that I am running now.....

Finally, I though that other thread I started, boost people were saying that 10.5 ish is where I wanted to be at WOT.......?

Still learning... THANK YOU...

Thanks BEN... that sounds like a very small window... saying that 11.5 is where I want to aim, and anything leaner than 12.0 is dangerous. That leaves me .5 of a window to be safe?????

At 10.0... the car is making POWER fast... If I could post up (which I wont) the HP/TQ chart you will see that prior to that squiggle at 4700 ish.. this thing was sky rocketing.....

Im running a simple MSD 6AL mounted in the glove box...

closing up the gap should not have any affect on street drive. that 6al is working its ass off to fire the plugs with that much fuel and air in the hole. our old setup t-trim at 12.5 psi would not fire the plug if the afr got below 10.5 we ran a crane hi6r and a msd coil. that combo made 572 rwhp at 6100 and 610ft lbs at 4100. and 1/2 point in afr sounds small but its not that hard to hit. you can fatten it up but the lower than 11.

[blackbirdws6]

Maybe you answered this before but why have you chosen not to disclose your power figures?

[popo8]

Because i dont.....

No reason other than that...

Never have.... Never will.... Lol. sorry.

[blackbirdws6]

That's fine and you aren't hurting any feelings by not doin so. Just curious.

[BIG CAT]

Maybe you answered this before but why have you chosen not to disclose your power figures?

a solid 400 to the tire.:jest:

[Fastbird]

a solid 400 to the tire.:jest:

To each rear tire when it's all over maybe. :secret:

[popo8]

closing up the gap should not have any affect on street drive. that 6al is working its ass off to fire the plugs with that much fuel and air in the hole. our old setup t-trim at 12.5 psi would not fire the plug if the afr got below 10.5 we ran a crane hi6r and a msd coil. that combo made 572 rwhp at 6100 and 610ft lbs at 4100. and 1/2 point in afr sounds small but its not that hard to hit. you can fatten it up but the lower than 11.

So are you saying the hi6r will be a stonger spark than the 6al? Is there maybe another MSD that I can swap out on the plug rather than rewiring that you would suggest?

How about COIL... what are you guys using there?

And do you think if I go ANOTHER degree colder on the plug it will help?


That's fine and you aren't hurting any feelings by not doin so. Just curious.

I wasnt challening you.. or being rude, I just do not publicly post numbers.....


a solid 400 to the tire.:jest:


LOL....


To each rear tire when it's all over maybe. :secret:


I WISH!

[CALL911]

I don't think the answer would be to keep going colder and colder on the plugs. Theres something else there. What brand plugs are you using? AFR heads really like Autolite's FWIW.

I am using a MSD blaster coil, and it works fine. I don't think its the coil hurting you either though.

I could understand not wanting to post current numbers. Its not done, its still in progress. But are you going to post the numbers when it is done? It's your call, and not sure if you are doing it just for more talk? Or just to be secretive, but I guess at this point you'd have to understand the level you have involved everyone, the end RWHP and RWTQ numbers is what everyone is waiting for at the end of all this. To involve everyone the way you have, then leave us hanging... well, you'd make your friends a lot happier if you'd tell us at the end is all.

[AChotrod]

I agree^^^^ Whats the point in leading us all on a build and never sharing the results????? Just doesnt make much sense to me.

[The SRZ]

I was just using a HI-6 and their p92 coil and had no issues w/ spark whatsoever and close to 740 to the tire. My gap is .028 using TR6 plugs. Just throwing that out there.

And I'll agree what the others have said above. Post your numbers. Got nothing to be ashamed that's for sure. :D

[BIG CAT]

So are you saying the hi6r will be a stonger spark than the 6al? Is there maybe another MSD that I can swap out on the plug rather than rewiring that you would suggest?

How about COIL... what are you guys using there?

And do you think if I go ANOTHER degree colder on the plug it will help?

i would say the 6al and hi-6r are just about the same in terms of out put. i was more trying to point out that as the tune gets fatter you can have problems getting them to fire. and your in a tough spot with needing something that has enough ass to get the job done but still last on the street. i would optimize what you got then make changes as need be. our ignition is a drag race only setup running on 16vdc. you can go colder on the plug but you have some one look at them and determine if its necessary.

[popo8]

I don't think the answer would be to keep going colder and colder on the plugs. Theres something else there. What brand plugs are you using? AFR heads really like Autolite's FWIW.

I am using a MSD blaster coil, and it works fine. I don't think its the coil hurting you either though.

I could understand not wanting to post current numbers. Its not done, its still in progress. But are you going to post the numbers when it is done? It's your call, and not sure if you are doing it just for more talk? Or just to be secretive, but I guess at this point you'd have to understand the level you have involved everyone, the end RWHP and RWTQ numbers is what everyone is waiting for at the end of all this. To involve everyone the way you have, then leave us hanging... well, you'd make your friends a lot happier if you'd tell us at the end is all.

Not looking for the ANSWER witht the older plugs...... simply trouble shooting.....

AND I WILL NEVER SHARE MY NUMBERS>..

Its never been a suprise since day one on here, I dont post numbers...

[popo8]

I agree^^^^ Whats the point in leading us all on a build and never sharing the results????? Just doesnt make much sense to me.


It makes sense to me.....






I was just using a HI-6 and their p92 coil and had no issues w/ spark whatsoever and close to 740 to the tire. My gap is .028 using TR6 plugs. Just throwing that out there.

And I'll agree what the others have said above. Post your numbers. Got nothing to be ashamed that's for sure. :D

Cool, thank you... after vaca... gonna start by tightening up the gap some..... and working from there... Def nothing to be ashamed of... but I still dont POST numbers....


i would say the 6al and hi-6r are just about the same in terms of out put. i was more trying to point out that as the tune gets fatter you can have problems getting them to fire. and your in a tough spot with needing something that has enough ass to get the job done but still last on the street. i would optimize what you got then make changes as need be. our ignition is a drag race only setup running on 16vdc. you can go colder on the plug but you have some one look at them and determine if its necessary.


Ok cool. Thank You man.......

[CALL911]

...Ill post up the real numbers.....


...AND I WILL NEVER SHARE MY NUMBERS>..

Its never been a suprise since day one on here, I dont post numbers...

:confused:

...such a tease

[popo8]

:confused:

...such a tease


LOL....

[CALL911]

LOL....

Glad you took it the right way (humor wise). I poke a lot, but never mean anything offensive to ya man. Glad you understand that. You're a good friend, and wouldn't want you to take it the wrong way.

Keep the numbers off the forum.

...just as long as you tell me ;)

[popo8]

Ahhhh i got a thick skin.... And even as friens we dont have to always c eye to eye....

But.... Ur the first one that picked up on what i say..... I wont POST.... i wont SHARE publicly..... Those are the things i say. i tell plenty of people my numbers..... Just not the way everyone is pushing for me to do so....

[CALL911]

Ahhhh i got a thick skin.... And even as friens we dont have to always c eye to eye....

But.... Ur the first one that picked up on what i say..... I wont POST.... i wont SHARE publicly..... Those are the things i say. i tell plenty of people my numbers..... Just not the way everyone is pushing for me to do so....


Right on buddy. I hope you enjoy your Z at the cruise, and I for one can't wait until you get it back on the rollers to get it dialed in. Sounds like when you get the "hiccup" figured out that you've got some serious power to make!

Yours is probably going to be the most powerfull P1SC car I have ever seen or heard about. Most guys with that blower even with some really good internals are not able to break into the 600+ range.

[popo8]

Right on buddy. I hope you enjoy your Z at the cruise, and I for one can't wait until you get it back on the rollers to get it dialed in. Sounds like when you get the "hiccup" figured out that you've got some serious power to make!

Yours is probably going to be the most powerfull P1SC car I have ever seen or heard about. Most guys with that blower even with some really good internals are not able to break into the 600+ range.

Well, keep an eye on my other thread... If they get the car dialed in.... Ill post charts and numbers there....


Thats right.... If the car is 100%.... Ill share.

[Fastbird]

Well, keep an eye on my other thread... If they get the car dialed in.... Ill post charts and numbers there....


Thats right.... If the car is 100%.... Ill share.

Who's the imposter and where's the real Larrry?

[popo8]

Who's the imposter and where's the real Larrry?


Lifes short, just getting into the WHATEVER mentality.... lol

[zooguy]

Lifes short, just getting into the WHATEVER mentality.... lol

as we say in the south "stick to your guns" do go all soft Larry. this is an on going and fun game you let us play

[Mrs Popo8]

Very interesting.......that is all.....<3 hahahah

[popo8]

as we say in the south "stick to your guns" do go all soft Larry. this is an on going and fun game you let us play

Apparently I dont comprehend "south." lol


WHat are you saying Troy...