bolton lt1 dyno

[lt1freak]

Here is mine!

[96lt1m6]

what all bolt ons do you have:
type
vendors etc.

[lt1freak]

Everything you can possibly do to an lt1, I have done it, from front to back!

[96lt1m6]

Everything you can possibly do to an lt1, I have done it, from front to back!


thats fine and cool however that does not help anyone here that may be looking for bolt-ons and manufactuers that make the products you have to get the HP/TQ you show on your dyno sheet.......you have no info at all,no sig just a few pics.....thats quite a bit of power shown more than usual for sure..
what does the car run 1/4?
what mph?
A4 or M6?
etc.........

[Fastbird]

Was that dyno dynamics dynomamoter loaded correctly? Reason I ask is because that's cam only LT1 and bolt on LS1 area right there. Something is amiss.

[Tyler Wheat]

Those are awfully high numbers. I suppose its possible, but I know my bolt-on car is nowhere near that. 400 tq and 346 at the wheels is unusual for a bolt-on car. What combo of parts are you using?

Props on the dyno

[Camaro_94]

+1 on more info

- Mike

[AChotrod]

WE WANT INFO NOW!!!!!!!:|

[Z28pr0jekt]

lol its bs thats its only bolt ons, it has AT LEAST a cam also or the dyno operator skewed the number

[96lt1m6]

OP has not been back since so i call BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
until i see timeslips,video or something.. dyno sheets mean nothing :whistle:

[lt1freak]

Well I drove to the dyno with 4 other fbodies and we all made pulls and my other buddies formula put down 309rwhp and he has way less mods than I do?? But I will admit the tq is messed :shame: Puttin her on a dynojet in a couple weeks so I will post the results from that!! Hey whats a guy to do, I drove there, made the pulls and that was my last pull with dual cutouts open:peace2:
http://www.fquick.com/videos/Dyno_pull_LT1_Z_28_/6955

[lt1freak]

This is me racing a 356rwhp 2000 SS and I had a passenger !! The freak can hang ya'll :metal:
http://www.fquick.com/videos/Z28_VS_SS/6580

[Tyler Wheat]

What all parts do you have on it?

[Fastbird]

Well I drove to the dyno with 4 other fbodies and we all made pulls and my other buddies formula put down 309rwhp and he has way less mods than I do?? But I will admit the tq is messed :shame: Puttin her on a dynojet in a couple weeks so I will post the results from that!! Hey whats a guy to do, I drove there, made the pulls and that was my last pull with dual cutouts open:peace2:
http://www.fquick.com/videos/Dyno_pull_LT1_Z_28_/6955

Wanting to see mod lists for both cars. I for one believe that the Dyno settings were off. Those Dyno Dynamics can be VERY accurate or horribly INaccurate depending on what the parameters are set to.

[lt1freak]

Ya I agree about the dyno thats why gonna try a dynojet next! My mods are mostly a great pcm4less tune! Lt's,tru duals,ewp,udp's, 1.6rr's,etc....check the fquick for full list :D

[stilltime]

Performance:

K&N COLD AIR
TRICKFLOW CERAMIC ELBOW
SLP AIRFOIL
TB BYPASS
160 THERMOSTAT
GMPP 1.6RR'S
MARCH PULLEY'S
MEIZERE EWP
PCMFORLESS TUNE
LT4 KNOCK MODULE
EGR & A.I.R DELETE
TAYLOR OVC PLUG WIRES
NGK PLUGS
MSD IGNITION&COIL
PACESETTER LONG TUBES
X PIPE,CUTOUTS
2.5" TRU DUALS
DYNOMAX BULLET MUFFLERS

Still seems high for those mods...

[Fastbird]

I think 300, maybe 310 as that's what those mods support. Unless he got the magic set of true duals and got the sizing and everything right and figured out something no one else has. Stranger things have happened.........Waiting for dynojet results.

[lt1freak]

How many of you including me have ever seen an lt1 hang that well with a full bolt on ls1 I mean cmon guys my buddy dynoed 309 with his formula and I destroy him in races?? Dont hate.. it should be encouraging:finger:

[Fastbird]

How many of you including me have ever seen an lt1 hang that well with a full bolt on ls1 I mean cmon guys my buddy dynoed 309 with his formula and I destroy him in races?? Dont hate.. it should be encouraging:finger:

Not hating, just skeptical.

[Z28pr0jekt]

How many of you including me have ever seen an lt1 hang that well with a full bolt on ls1 I mean cmon guys my buddy dynoed 309 with his formula and I destroy him in races?? Dont hate.. it should be encouraging:finger:

looks like every run I had with an exhaust/lid ls1 when I had thermostat,flowmaster,intake

with them through 2 gears, by the top of 3rd they walk away

[Camaro_94]

How many of you including me have ever seen an lt1 hang that well with a full bolt on ls1 I mean cmon guys my buddy dynoed 309 with his formula and I destroy him in races?? Dont hate.. it should be encouraging:finger:

LT1's can definately hang with LS1's, but definately not stock for stock, and even ones with similar mods. It wouldnt even be a race. LT1's are low 14 second/very high 13 second cars stock, while LS1's are low 13 second cars stock. Not even close.

I've only raced 1 LS1 Trans Am (which was stock), and she pulled me from a 40 roll. I had pasesetter LT's, ORY, SLP LM2 Exhaust, trickflow elbow, CAI, and a few other things. I'd like to see the results when you go get it on the dyno again.

- Mike

[lt1freak]

Ya you guys have seen the vids the ss doesnt pass me until 110mph! Oh what do ya know 1/4 mile is over and an ls1 just lost to an lt1!! Guys all the ls1 cars around me have much respect for my lt1 because I have smoked half of them I will post the new dyno results soon!!

[Camaro_94]

Ya you guys have seen the vids the ss doesnt pass me until 110mph! Oh what do ya know 1/4 mile is over and an ls1 just lost to an lt1!! Guys all the ls1 cars around me have much respect for my lt1 because I have smoked half of them I will post the new dyno results soon!!

Were not trying to take away at all from your car man. It just it doesnt make sense at all. For the mods you have, 345rwhp and about 400rwtq just doesnt add up. And you cant even go by that roll race saying that the it equals to a "1/4 MILE" race because you started from a roll.

- Mike

[Z28pr0jekt]

Were not trying to take away at all from your car man. It just it doesnt make sense at all. For the mods you have, 345rwhp and about 400rwtq just doesnt add up. And you cant even go by that roll race saying that the it equals to a "1/4 MILE" race because you started from a roll.

- Mike
exactly not to mention 4.10s make a huge difference from a roll

[96lt1m6]

Ok enough with the BS already!
You are comparing apples to oranges, even up the playing field!
Get time slips,dynos are for tunning not predicting the outcome of a dragrace.........
BTW there is definately no hating going on here,the HP and TQ is just not adding up! Lt1 camaros have been proven to weigh alot less than the Ls1 cars thats part of the reason you stayed together from a roll but shortly after you see which car has more HP cause he starte pullin you!

[lt1freak]

Im not denying his hp is higher. Im saying the numbers between the 2 cars are about right by about how much he pulled on me in that race:devil:

[Camaro_94]

Im not denying his hp is higher. Im saying the numbers between the 2 cars are about right by about how much he pulled on me in that race:devil:

With the mods you have, there is absolutely no way those numbers are correct. Whats the point of going by numbers that arent even correct in the first place. If you want to keep claiming that 400rwtq and almost 350rwhp, dont get it dyno'd again on a different one because I guarantee it wont be anything near that.

Were not trying to be a bunch of asses to you.. Its just something isnt right.

- Mike

[YZF]

On an LT1 site, all of you guys are criticizing his number and are irritated that he's beating LS1 cars? C'mon. If he wants to make up numbers, or get bad dyno readings, let him be. But shouldnt we see the better side of things here. LT1>LS1 :)

[Fixxer99TA]

The numbers are up there alright.... +1 on the more info....

[CamaroRacing12]

crapoola on the dyno numbers.... he def could of beaten ls1's tho

[ksmyss]

mine dynoed 335 rwhp and 350 rwtrq with every bolton. it also ran 12.50 @ 112 w/ 1.88 60 ft.

i had
electric wp
under drive pulley
58mm tb
crane gold 1.6 rrs
slp midlenght headers, 2.5" true duals
madz28 tune and obd1 conversion
160 thermo
descreened maf
spec 3 clutch
4.10 gears
stock ss air box with cut out hood and gutted filter
1le elbow
taylor ovc wires
ac delco r44lts plugs
air and egr delete
accel 300+

it has dyned on the higher side since i got it almost new.

[lt1freak]

Nice #'s bro especially having mid tube headers! Lt's would have got a another 10 ponies at least

[NicksTAgt]

I think its possible that you hit that HP number, but that torque, no way. The fact that the torque was so obviously off makes me wonder how much the dyno was off. Get that second set of #s quick so everyone can be proven right/wrong respectively.

[96lt1m6]

To be fair,why not go to the track gather all info below:
Track altitude
Air temp in degrees
Relative humidity
Barometric pressure
E.T.
MPH
post these up so we can work with the numbers under RACING conditions:peace2:

[ksmyss]

Nice #'s bro especially having mid tube headers! Lt's would have got a another 10 ponies at least

i doubt it. a good friend of mine went from edlebrock shorties to flp longtubes and picked up 2 hp and about the same in torque. unless you are pushing over 400 there isn't going to be much of a difference.

here is my dyno sheet
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/865/1625/263928.jpg
the 350 torque was a torque spike but the other run was 346 and they are dead on the same as you can see. the reason why the first one was lower is that it was made while that car was still in open loop and we didn't notice it till we looked at the data log. also ignore the a/f ratio. i don't trust the tail pipe sensors. we put it in just to compare with the lm1 that we tune from.

the 12.5 pass was the very next day. dyno was 10-2 and passes were 10-3. back in 04.

[lt1freak]

Sorry man... if you think there is no diff on a bolt on lt1 between shorties and lt's you are mistaken! Post a thread and ask guys if there is a diff cause there is :metal:

[ksmyss]

Sorry man... if you think there is no diff on a bolt on lt1 between shorties and lt's you are mistaken! Post a thread and ask guys if there is a diff cause there is :metal:

there is a difference, but not much of one. i have seen it personaly. now that i have cam and heads sure long tubes help me more but just bolt ons there isn't going to be much to gain.

its just like people saying a 58mm tb isn't needed on anything but big cubed strokers. we proved that wrong on the dyno also. i will take first hand knowledge over parroted info that goes from one person to the other on the net.

[SS#1230]

Ok enough with the BS already!
You are comparing apples to oranges, even up the playing field!
Get time slips,dynos are for tunning not predicting the outcome of a dragrace.........
BTW there is definately no hating going on here,the HP and TQ is just not adding up! Lt1 camaros have been proven to weigh alot less than the Ls1 cars thats part of the reason you stayed together from a roll but shortly after you see which car has more HP cause he starte pullin you!


im not saying your wrong because ive never seen ls1 camaro vs. lt1 camaro weights, but where did you get that from? i would think that the ls cars are lighter due to the fact that they have an aluminum block vs. the iron lt1. the front brakes on the ls cars are gonna weigh a little more, but other than that, what would make the LS1s heavier???

oh, not that it makes much difference, but the LS cars have got a lighter driveshaft too....

[SS#1230]

i doubt it. a good friend of mine went from edlebrock shorties to flp longtubes and picked up 2 hp and about the same in torque. unless you are pushing over 400 there isn't going to be much of a difference.

here is my dyno sheet
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/865/1625/263928.jpg
the 350 torque was a torque spike but the other run was 346 and they are dead on the same as you can see. the reason why the first one was lower is that it was made while that car was still in open loop and we didn't notice it till we looked at the data log. also ignore the a/f ratio. i don't trust the tail pipe sensors. we put it in just to compare with the lm1 that we tune from.

the 12.5 pass was the very next day. dyno was 10-2 and passes were 10-3. back in 04.


running a little lean there huh???

[ksmyss]

running a little lean there huh???

no. it was a tail pipe sensor and i never trust them. they always tend to read a little lean. we tune with an lm1 right behind the collectors and it was reading dead on perfect.

[ScreaminRedZ]

I'll wait for the dynojet or track numbers to comment.

[96lt1m6]

im not saying your wrong because ive never seen ls1 camaro vs. lt1 camaro weights, but where did you get that from? i would think that the ls cars are lighter due to the fact that they have an aluminum block vs. the iron lt1. the front brakes on the ls cars are gonna weigh a little more, but other than that, what would make the LS1s heavier???

oh, not that it makes much difference, but the LS cars have got a lighter driveshaft too....

not too sure what they did to increase the weight of a fully loaded Ls1 z but my friends camaro is 3680 heavier than mine at 3540fully loaded!

[95LT1Z28]

whatever happen to this guy? and this thread

[941le]

guy probly gave up tryin to defend his false numbers.

[Blubird]

he forgot to mention his 150 dry shot:jest:

[BIGT94z]

I'll wait for the dynojet or track numbers to comment. a good bolt on m6 lt1 with full bolt ons is around 320-328 around here. u must have some magic air up where ur at :metal:

[Blubird]

maybe he dyno'd 3000 feet below sea level

[SSSC]

Would loved to see some 1/4 mile times for sure. That would get you a ball park ideal.

[YZF]

maybe he dyno'd 3000 feet below sea level


Maybe thats where he's currently residing.

[lt1freak]

The new dyno #'s are comin soon! I will also match some track times too! Most likely im bettin between 320 and 330! Oh and the next dyno will be at sea level lol!!

[YZF]

The new dyno #'s are comin soon! I will also match some track times too! Most likely im bettin between 320 and 330! Oh and the next dyno will be at sea level lol!!


Where did the dynograph go? Weren't the numbers upwards of 360? What happened to that?

[lt1freak]

Ya that was weird, didnt notice the graph was gone but i put it back up and it was 341 through td's and 346 through the cutouts!!

[96lt1m6]

if i recall correctly it was 400tq 350+hp :secret:

[bricez28]

lolol^^^ i want manswers!!!

[Toronto_LT1]

paging lt1freak.:secret:

[BigBitch97Z]

I think 300, maybe 310 as that's what those mods support. Unless he got the magic set of true duals and got the sizing and everything right and figured out something no one else has. Stranger things have happened.........Waiting for dynojet results.

I dyno'd higher than 310 with less mods... ON A DYNOJET!

[1SLOLT1]

Who cares about dyno numbers? Lets see some track times.

[96lt1m6]

EXACTLY HOW I FEEL!
Dynos are for tunning,what it does at the 1/4 is what it is.............

[lt1freak]

Uh ya........ what up! Gonna just run a mid 12 next month and prove my hp # dont worry!

[96lt1m6]

Uh ya........ what up! Gonna just run a mid 12 next month and prove my hp # dont worry!


LOL OK, your ET does not really matter at this point.
ET does not show HP
MPH shows HP
not tryin to be a RICHARD CRANIUM but all of your past posts on this topic have been vague! the only way you can expect people to believe your claims is having a TRACK VIDEO .......
how about a race weight?
the video of your Ls1 race could have been a 2.73 geared Ls car for all we know......you really have to understand how all the people that have posted here are thinking when they see abnormal bolt on numbers my friends 97Lt4 SS#75 with a tune,SLP 1-3/4 and Lt4 hotcam barely beats those #s:secret:

[YZF]

Mid 12's is do-able. But I wont beleive any of it without video.

[3DFORMULA]

Uh ya........ what up! Gonna just run a mid 12 next month and prove my hp # dont worry!

Mid 12's with 346hp ain't gonna impress.

[YZF]

Mid 12's with 346hp ain't gonna impress.

A local Camaro here went 11.3x with 333rwhp. I'd have to agree with you.

[LSWHO]

That would be impressive on street tires.

[ksmyss]

A local Camaro here went 11.3x with 333rwhp. I'd have to agree with you.

333rwhp and low 11s could mean an auto with a big stall that is super light so its not really a fair comparison.

[YZF]

333rwhp and low 11s could mean an auto with a big stall that is super light so its not really a fair comparison.

You nailed that one on the head haha.

[96lt1m6]

Exactly,that would be the record holders!

I wonder what the full weight record are for both A4 and M6?

[mr maimi]

need track numbers asap

[mr maimi]

and video to back it up

[3DFORMULA]

Exactly,that would be the record holders!

I wonder what the full weight record are for both A4 and M6?

I'm full weight and stock engine.

[96lt1m6]

that's what i am talkin about! with only the mods in your sig right?

what track do you run at?

[3DFORMULA]

that's what i am talkin about! with only the mods in your sig right?

what track do you run at?
I'm sorry, I missed responding back here.
I ran this @ Cordova, Illinois. I did use 26" slicks, otherwise sig description. Launch @ 5500-5700rpm, powershift @ 5700-5800rpm.

I'll try to keep up with this.

[96lt1m6]

Nice,that's how to get it done!

[Steel185]

2 months later......nothing!

[lt1freak]

Sorry guys its still rainin in oregon and Im gonna throw some 4.10s on before I run it!! Will post times and vids real soon!! I did make some new vids though on streetfire or fquick!!

[BIGT94z]

Link it up!

[lt1freak]

Linked for you sir!! Enjoy
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/94-Z28-vs-99-SS_648623.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LT1-Z28-vs-LS1-SS_646616.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ls1-vs-lt1_648625.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/camaro-vs-camaro_646619.htm

[BIGT94z]

ill watch them when i get off work posting from cellie FTW

[BIGT94z]

the vids dont help ur claim any imo but i have a strong runner ;)

[lt1freak]

Finally ran her sorry it took so long lol!! First run 13.003@107.44 Second run 13.161@107.42 Here is the vids!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LT1-at-the-track-2_701794.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LT1-at-the-track_701663.htm

[3DFORMULA]

Good runs. But with all the bolt-ons available(as previously qouted) it's only good. And not the mid 12's as expected by yourself. And with mid 3xx hp, theres plenty of room for improvement on the timeslip. GL, keep us posted

[lt1freak]

Thanks Man! Will do gonna run it a couple more times this year.

[Itsonlyanlt1]

Are you a full weight car? What was the 60'?