My Pros and Cons in a small town PD.

[popo8]

Well, on 01/26/11 into 01/27/11 we here in SE PA had a decent snow storm......

A quick hitting 12" of snow and people who didnt heed the warnings of the weather forcasters, put me to work that midnight shift.

I worked the 7pm-7am shift from the 26th into the 27th. After my first several disabled vehicles, and realizing that tow companies had a 2-4 hours ETA, I would need to arm myself with a shovel...

I had my shovel riding shotgun with me for the remainder of the shift and we shoveled out and pushed alot of vehicles out of sticky predicimants that would have later been disasters as other vehicles would have crashed into the disabled vehicles.... well anyways... long story short....

After shoveling, and pushing over 20 cars out of prediciments that could have been avoided by staying the F home, I got out of my SUV for one more, when I did the good old slip a jerk and I felt a pop from my back.....being the troope (no pun intended) that I am, I kept on keeping on till 7am....

Went home, went to bed woke up stiff as a board, but.... being the guy who does not want to dick other people over at work, I didnt call off, I went in and did another 12 hour shift of pure misery.......

Since I did send the Chief emails documenting what was going on, I got sent to the W/C doctor and I am now out of work for a while. Start PT tomorrow, and got lots of drugs....

So, expect more posting from me....

I guess the whole thing behind this story is me pleading with you , to stay home if you can when the weather is shitty, because you may not realize that someone is going to get really hurt even if you make it home in one piece without any crashes....



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[popo8]

:devil:

[Ryan Stout]

Yeah, I'm screwed here. Yesterday wasn't bad, but today sucks.

[faust]

i'm sorry your now sponging off the state now lol

[Chris]

What snow?

[popo8]

i'm sorry your now sponging off the state now lol


So not cool..... lol

[faust]

larry , you know i'm give you a bad time. right? us roughnecks give anyone on w/c a bad time

[harner]

At least you're getting it taken care of. I hurt my back at work a year and a half ago and reinjure it doing the dumbest things. I just hurt it again last weekend and still recovering. When it snows around here I don't even go into work. Although, I can work remotely :)

Take care of it and enjoy the drugs!

[popo8]

larry , you know i'm give you a bad time. right? us roughnecks give anyone on w/c a bad time


Of course man.... I dont take any offense. Honestly I do the same. I hate being off work, I hate knowing others have to pick up my slack. Im the guy that picks up others slack, not this way.

[popo8]

At least you're getting it taken care of. I hurt my back at work a year and a half ago and reinjure it doing the dumbest things. I just hurt it again last weekend and still recovering. When it snows around here I don't even go into work. Although, I can work remotely :)

Take care of it and enjoy the drugs!


I will, thank you. Ive hurt all kinds of body parts, but the back by far is the most crippling!

[Tarheel'Z']

is more posting possible??lol,,i expect more movie reviews to!!,,hope you feel better soon man,,being 260lbs doesnt help on a hurt back,i broke mine when i was 17

[popo8]

is more posting possible??lol,,i expect more movie reviews to!!,,hope you feel better soon man,,being 260lbs doesnt help on a hurt back,i broke mine when i was 17


Hahaha, so funny you say that because I just posted on my MOVIE REVIEW site on FB.... lol

(for anyone interested... http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/home.php?sk=group_149101901811810 )

And yes... I intend to POST alot more, as long as I can find interesting things to post....

Thank You man, I appreciate the well wishes, and you are correct, 260 is prob part of why it hurt me so quickly... however without that 260, I prob would not have been able to assist all of those people that got themselves stuck.....

[Tarheel'Z']

Thank You man, I appreciate the well wishes, and you are correct, 260 is prob part of why it hurt me so quickly... however without that 260, I prob would not have been able to assist all of those people that got themselves stuck.....

dont get me wrong i didnt mean you got hurt because of your size but now that you are hurt being a bigger dude makes it rough with a hurt back,,did me anyway and then i was prob 220,,now im 245 and i feel it some mornings just trying to roll out of bed,,at least i broke it when i was young i guess

[popo8]

dont get me wrong i didnt mean you got hurt because of your size but now that you are hurt being a bigger dude makes it rough with a hurt back,,did me anyway and then i was prob 220,,now im 245 and i feel it some mornings just trying to roll out of bed,,at least i broke it when i was young i guess


I knew what you meant, but I also believe that being heavier, made that slip and jerk more damaging....

[faust]

i had endoscopic discectomy on l4/5 l5/s1 back in 05. they wanted to fuse my spine but my wife work in w/c so she found me a specialist. best thing i ever done, i could touch my toes a week after surgery. never have had a problem since

[chevymec]

Hope you get better soon. I hurt my shoulder some how and with no ins. and being self employed, I just grin and bare it.
Oh, and I requested to join you movie review group! My profile pic is my son holding the Procharger.

[popo8]

Well, surgery has not even been discussed yet because WC protocol is to begin treatment with meds and PT... and return every few days.... so with PT 2moro, we will see....

[CALL911]

Hopefully its something that you just strained, and just some R&R will heal it back to normal. I have often been in similar situations where I didn't want to pull the woose card so I just toughed it out, and paid the price for it later. The older I get, the more I realize I should just say "no" more often.

I am definatly enjoying some time off from work right now (due to the snow). I love my job, but I still appreciate the time off.

Not to scew the thread too much, but does anyone know how much more the midwest is supposed to get? And when it will stop?

[Phstratton]

At least you had a cool ride though! lol

[faust]

Hopefully its something that you just strained, and just some R&R will heal it back to normal. I have often been in similar situations where I didn't want to pull the woose card so I just toughed it out, and paid the price for it later. The older I get, the more I realize I should just say "no" more often.

I am definatly enjoying some time off from work right now (due to the snow). I love my job, but I still appreciate the time off.

Not to scew the thread too much, but does anyone know how much more the midwest is supposed to get? And when it will stop?
here in chandler ok its sunny with 25 mph winds. been out shoveling for 20 min at a time. we got 16 inches of that white crap and drifts 6 -11 ft its all done here wind chill has it a -11

[6Speed]

That sucks man. Hope your back gets to feelin better.

[popo8]

That sucks man. Hope your back gets to feelin better.


Thanks Man.... I appreciate it, and hope so also...

[F.G.]

I hope its nothing major man, I hurt a disc when I was 15, and I still feel it from time to time.

[popo8]

I hope its nothing major man, I hurt a disc when I was 15, and I still feel it from time to time.


Thank You man... did my first day of PT. Felt like hard work, with the pain tho (I know Im a bitch...). Felt ok after I left, but as I sat for a while I stiffened right back up, and the pain was just as bad as when I got there....

[F.G.]

Man that sucks. Did you get x-rays?

[popo8]

Man that sucks. Did you get x-rays?


Not yet , unfortunatley WC protocol for back injury is P.T. plus medication..... then P.T. plus more medication..... then X-rays........

This friday is my next apt with the WC Doctor...... So if not better by then, Im guessing that wll be the orders for X-rays....

[F.G.]

damn, hope youre alright

[95z28man]

Hope you feel better man. I've been off work for weeks now due to weather and I'm starting to get depressed lol... staying up late, waking up late, slacking on my diet. I just now started forcing myself back into my "normal" routine minus actually working. Just trying to do things around the house. I know your injured but IMO at least try to keep a little busy cuz if your anything like me it's easy to fall into a small depression lol

[popo8]

Hope you feel better man. I've been off work for weeks now due to weather and I'm starting to get depressed lol... staying up late, waking up late, slacking on my diet. I just now started forcing myself back into my "normal" routine minus actually working. Just trying to do things around the house. I know your injured but IMO at least try to keep a little busy cuz if your anything like me it's easy to fall into a small depression lol


Thanks man... my dilema is I used to keep busy with work, the gym and working on cars at the garage. Well, Im outta work, I am not allowed to lift, and I can go hang at the garage, however, I cant really do anything, and with the pain shooting from my lower back to my knee to my ankle, as if someone was constantly electrocuting me, Im freakin misreable.

I take pain meds and then Im just lethargic and in pain..... and all i wanna do is sleep. blah.

[Fixxer99TA]

Hope ya feel better Popo, back injuries are the worst.... They always seem to come back.

That and, at least now I dont feel like the only person who wants people to stay the F home when it snows. People in MA just dont understand how to drive, let alone in blizzard wind/snow. Somehow everytime Im out all night plowing, theres always some dumbass stuck somewhere in the way at 3-4am.

[popo8]

Its even worse because back in 2004ish I was involved in an accident where a 79 year old man failed to see me directing traffic, and barreled by the traffic I was detouring and nearly crushed me in between the front of his minivan and the entire driver side of my crown vic. I had seen him comming and did my best to clear my car (actually jumped on and almost over the trunk) however when he hit my car he ended up launching me through the air. My impact with the ground was feet first before falling and hitting the ground. I was full of piss and vinigar back then and I brushed it off and finished my shift in another car... however a few days later I was nearly paralyzed with pain in bed, and taken to the hospital, where injury to my spine was discovered..... Being the dumb ass tough guy I was, I brushed it off and never took off from work.... years later, it took a snow storm to bring that pain crashing back down on me.....:puke:

[ZGOBYBY]

Damn Popo! Stay tough man! Try to get some R & R!

[popo8]

Damn Popo! Stay tough man! Try to get some R & R!


Thank You, feeling a lil better, but it changes day to day...... PT was good today, and I visit with the WC doc again tomorrow.

[popo8]

Well recently, I have become the newest secretary at the PD, Apparently the Chief has soooo much stuff that needs to get done, that he called me in for light duty, so I have been at the PD (8 hours a day filing and shredding). Im not complaining, its keeping me busy.

What bothers me is that, I have a partner that tore his shoulder 2 years ago, and while out for 6 months, he was never called in for light duty.... I had two other partners who were injured off duty, who were struggling for money and requesting some light duty work, and there was nothing for them either. Me.... who gets hurt on duty, and because it was on duty I remain getting 100% of my pay (in fact more because it is not taxable) has to return to work.

Either way Im still not complaining, just updating.... I know that not everyone is treated equally, its the way the world turns...



Weds I went to the workmans comp doctor, and when asked what my pain level was on a 10 scale, i advised it was a 7-8...... ( I believe sitting on my arse all day at the office is aggrivating my injury)... he replied to me, that the MRI reports state that I was "structurally sound" and that people do not have more than 6 weeks of pain from a back injury unless there is structural damage.... I informed him that is great news, but unfortunatly I must be Atypical...... Either way, after all but being called a liar by this asshole, he gave me another script for pain meds (which just stacks up in my cabinet because I dont like taking them) and ordered me another 4 weeks of "light duty." Im confused.... is the idea to fukn bandaid me, or make me better.... pain meds and more time of sitting on my ass.....? really. After nearly strangling the doctor that all but called me a liar, I left and went back to work.... shred....file....shred....file... OH YEAH, the doctor also said, " you need to go to your family doctor and tell him it is his responsibility to figure out whats wrong with you, because its probably not work related." I SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING ALREADY....... (GLOVES.....ON!)


Thurs, I went to my scheduled PAIN MANAGMENT appointment for cortisone injections. I was prescribed 3 valiums to take prior to relax my muscles and then MULTIPLE "locals" prior to and during the injection. Unlike most cortisone injections, mine were not EPIDURALs (meaning injected into the spine) mine were injections into a joint called the "SI" or sacroliac join.... MOST PAINFUL PROCEEDURE EVER.... The doc begins by threading the needle in, then using an x-ray machine, he moves the machine, and changes angles of the needle, pushes further, then moves the xray machine again , and one more time changes the angle of the needle again.... all while tearing tissue on the way in........ HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!

While being injected I spoke with that doctor and I advised him what the other doctor had said. He confirmed that my feeling of being offended and angry was supported and advised that the doctor was ignorant. So now this doctor will be my second opinion doctor..... Finally, I called my family doctor, explained the situation, and he told me to set up an appointment to come in and get checked out with him.... he explained to me that unfortunatley, a LARGE percent of people on W/C fake for time off, disability or even just the meds, and unfortunatley I was being treated the same way because of the majority.......

HE KNOWS, I KNOW, I think MOST OF YOU ON HERE THAT KNOW ME KNOW, I am a proud Officer, and I love my job..... I want to be fixed so I can do my JOB.... the job I love, and have wanted to do since I was a kid and the first time I saw CHiPs (if your not to young to know what that is)......... It kills me to think Im being accused of BS and nearly ignored, as I suffer from this BS......


ANYWAYS, I just needed to vent, in fact I dont think I got everything out that was racing through my mind, but I do feel better.... Thanks for looking....

[BLK95TA]

what does a bag of potato CHiP's have to do with your injury?


:laugh: j/k

i have the first 2 seasons of that show on DVD.

get better soon.

[F.G.]

man that sucks, you're a good guy, and from what I read you're one of the good officers but get treated like this. I'm sorry for what you're going through man, and I hope everything gets resolved.

[popo8]

Thank You guys.....:cry:

[KissMyWhtSS]

People in MA just dont understand how to drive, let alone in blizzard wind/snow. Somehow everytime Im out all night plowing, theres always some dumbass stuck somewhere in the way at 3-4am.

That's the problem. That and our transportation system can't handle the traffic in the snow since you need extra space in front of you and to slow down. People don't pay attention and aren't patient enough. Then there's idiots that try to make the commute in cars that aren't equipped for it, and put others at risk.

[popo8]

UPDATE: had two cortisone shots into the SI joints a few weeks ago, and it was the most painful experience Ive ever dealt with in the hospital... Anyways. The original origin of pain still exists, however the "mind of its own" way of giving me pain that switched from leg to leg has stopped. I believe those shots worked on my right side... so now I can focus on the side that originally was injured...


Just had 4 injections into the right side, in an attempt to block the nerve receptors... its a trial and error thing, since he cant block all the nerves at once.... One thing I can tell you.... the first four were not in the right spot.... PAIN still exists, now even worse from the pain from the four injections sites....

So for now, Im still the PD glorified secretary... but... I look incredible in a dress....:cry:

[GE-]

Dear Chief, many things have transpired since we last spoke...

[popo8]

Dear Chief, many things have transpired since we last spoke...


What?

[popo8]

Just wanted to update:

Since I last posted, I have:

been cleared to go back to work by the workmans comp doc. He advised me that he can not find anything structurally wrong with my spine, so in that case it "cant be work related." However he did write on his notes about our last visit, that he does not doubt I have pain and may not be able to do my job, so I should seek other options..... In other words, your hurt, but your work is not liable....

Then, fearing I would be sent back out on the street unable to walk comfortably, and afraid someone else would suffer because I could not act quick enough, I went to see another Doc who reviewed my 1st MRI actual pictures, (rather than just the report) and found that I have issues, which were "exaserbated" from the slip at work. I dont want to publicly post what the issues are, but its legit. With that being said, I am stpped from returning to full duty, and have since switched Doctors, had another MRI done, had another 12 injections into different areas of my back, and all while still on light duty.....

No problems with the light duty, however, I was assigned to go through the files at work in the garage closet (thats where we keep all the filing cabinets (its small) and purge the files from the last 30 years. It was actually amusing going though old files one by one seeing what used to happen etc, however those orders were given to me (and I dont want to be insubordonate) with no care to the fact that I am NOT allowed to bend over, or lift things over 6 lbs. Anyways, after three weeks, I completed the one by one review of files, and purging system, and then returned to desk work for 2 weeks before....

I was informed today that my boss no longer wanted to pay me from the budget, because he did not feel that there was enough light duty work, so I am returning to the WC status of being paid through the insurance company... Oh, btw... in the time I was doing investigations between secretary duty, and janitor duty, I completed and filed charges on two more sexual offenders in our township. Was anle to have an 86 year old man reimbursed by a scam paver for over $80k, his full money back, and multible other investigations, including one that nearly got me killed (My "WUSS" thread)....

Once again, Im ranting.... I do as Im told and really try not to do any bad mouthing. I wish my injury had more of an exciting story behind it,,, but it doesnt... but its mine and I own this pain, and get NO support from my employer, or the Doctors that are contracted by my employer.... Glad I found my own Doctors... ones with a CLUE.

So now Im Back off of light duty, and home being paid through insurance company.... going on 9 months of having my chain yanked....Oh well

[popo8]

Not sure if anyone cares, but since its here, I figured I would update this...

Im still injured....


RECAP/UPDATE:

JAN 26th 2011- hurt my back while on duty.

JAN 27th 2011-forced to work.

FEB 1st 2011- put out of work on injury.

March 12th 2011- attend annual police certification training.

March 14th 2011- Returned to work on light duty restriction
TASKS INCLUDE:-INVESTIGATIONS
-conduct on line auction for surplus police equiptment
-purge files/cases from 1981 till current (One report at a time)

SEPT 2011- Workmans Comp Dr calls me a liar because without structural injury, "no one can have back pain for this long."
Workman Comp Dr attempts to release me to FULL DUTY, saying "You may have pain, but its not work related."

OCTOBER- Insurance Company sends me for IME- (INDEPENDENT MEDICAL EXAM) with Doctor of their choice. That Drs report reads "Officer Hanna's injury is work related, and I do feel he can get better."


OCT 14th 2011- Advised there was no more light duty work, sent home.

DEC 23 2011 (2 days before X-mass) receive a letter from lawfirm rep'n Employer and Ins Co (PETITION TO SUSP worrkmans Comp) Hearing day set for Valentines day.

Stress ruins, X-mas, New Years and Miss Popo and My 5 year anniversary.

FEB 13th 2012- Day before hearing to suspend my Comp, advised that they withdrew the petition to stop it.

FEB 24th 2012- Chief requests that I return to work for a "couple of days."

FEB 25th 2012- Receive a letter from Attorneys Office advising that they will be sending me to another IME.

FEB 27th 2012- My Dr was not in the Office to give approval or denial on whether I can return for "a couple of days."



THATS THE OUTLINED VERSION....

Since my injury,
-I have been prescribed 12 different medications.....

-Ive put on 35 lbs.....

-Ive attended PHYSICAL THERAPY

-Ive attended AQUA THERAPY

-I am currently attending AGGRESSIVE PHYSICAL THERAPY

-I have had 17 or 18 injections, and 3 denervation procedures....



Im depressed, fed up, stressed and strung out on all of this...... I dont want to be hurt, i dont want to be out of work, but they dont give a fuk.... Im a dollar sign that can be saved.....

[AdamG]

We had a guy go through something very similar at my job. The doctor the company/comp hired said there was nothing wrong with him but his doctor found a problem with his spine. mean while as this whole battle was going on he lost all feeling in his right arm. after a year and a half of fighting with him they finally signed off on the surgery. I actually just called him last week he had the surgery in November and he is still all messed up his wife said he probably will never return to work. I guess it better then the alternative they said he would probably end up in a wheel chair staring at the ground if he didn't get it.

In the end they don't care its all about money how what they can do for you. Thats why when I'm at work i don't push my self its not worth it.

[popo8]

.... Thats why when I'm at work i don't push my self its not worth it.


The only problem with that is that.... thats what Im hired for... to push myself for THE PEOPLE. "to protect and serve..."


Ive been hit by cars.... launched through the air, torn my shoulder, busted my knee, busted my pinky, and I always PUSHED through... to be there for that Dept... for the people I work for, and the people I work with. An injury finally beats me, and they simply toss me aside....

[AdamG]

I hear yah. I went to school for criminal justice and hold an Associates degree In it. When I graduated I went and took a few exams and was offered a job with a large PD pending I graduate from the academy. I sat down and really put some time and thought into was this something i really wanted to do and did I really want to take the risks. was it all really going to be worth it. After I thought about it I realized it wasn't for me and I'm back in school getting my 4 year in public policy and management.

[popo8]

I hear yah. I went to school for criminal justice and hold an Associates degree In it. When I graduated I went and took a few exams and was offered a job with a large PD pending I graduate from the academy. I sat down and really put some time and thought into was this something i really wanted to do and did I really want to take the risks. was it all really going to be worth it. After I thought about it I realized it wasn't for me and I'm back in school getting my 4 year in public policy and management.


Probably a smart move..... ITs a thankless job, and the POLITICS SUCK! Not only do you have to work about being F'd by the "bad guys," but even the people you work with and work for will hang you if they can.... Ive wanted to be a cop since I was a kid... got my BS in Criminal Justice and Psych, and put myself through the academy, graduated #2 in a class of 312....

I applied with 27 different Police Departments, and was offered 16 different offers of employment.... achieved my dream, sacrificed myself, and now I have to keep a hand over my KNOT so the people I work for dont try to ram IT in....

[F.G.]

Damn Popo im sorry to hear that this is happening to you. We need more good people like you out there.

[popo8]

Damn Popo im sorry to hear that this is happening to you. We need more good people like you out there.

Thanks Bud, I appreciate that..... Unfortunately, the ones who control my future, DONT CARE.

[popo8]

And now, after nearly a week of trying to chase down my Doctor and getting him to switch my work status from OFF WORK to LIMITED DUTY, my nurse case manager had the revised order emailed/faxed to my Chief, and he emailed me to say... NEVERMIND.

[Chris]

dude wtf. You need to roll up and have ang kick some doors in and get this shit ironed out. I dont want you to do it because then theyll say your faking or some gay shit.

[popo8]

Lol, apparently the whole thing is a game. It doesn't matter how bad I hurt, or how long I suffer.... what matters to them is $$$$, and nothing more. I guess its the way the world turns....

[97firehawk]

Not sure if anyone cares, but since its here, I figured I would update this...

Im still injured....


RECAP/UPDATE:

JAN 26th 2011- hurt my back while on duty.

JAN 27th 2011-forced to work.

FEB 1st 2011- put out of work on injury.

March 12th 2011- attend annual police certification training.

March 14th 2011- Returned to work on light duty restriction
TASKS INCLUDE:-INVESTIGATIONS
-conduct on line auction for surplus police equiptment
-purge files/cases from 1981 till current (One report at a time)

SEPT 2011- Workmans Comp Dr calls me a liar because without structural injury, "no one can have back pain for this long."
Workman Comp Dr attempts to release me to FULL DUTY, saying "You may have pain, but its not work related."

OCTOBER- Insurance Company sends me for IME- (INDEPENDENT MEDICAL EXAM) with Doctor of their choice. That Drs report reads "Officer Hanna's injury is work related, and I do feel he can get better."


OCT 14th 2011- Advised there was no more light duty work, sent home.

DEC 23 2011 (2 days before X-mass) receive a letter from lawfirm rep'n Employer and Ins Co (PETITION TO SUSP worrkmans Comp) Hearing day set for Valentines day.

Stress ruins, X-mas, New Years and Miss Popo and My 5 year anniversary.

FEB 13th 2012- Day before hearing to suspend my Comp, advised that they withdrew the petition to stop it.

FEB 24th 2012- Chief requests that I return to work for a "couple of days."

FEB 25th 2012- Receive a letter from Attorneys Office advising that they will be sending me to another IME.

FEB 27th 2012- My Dr was not in the Office to give approval or denial on whether I can return for "a couple of days."



THATS THE OUTLINED VERSION....

Since my injury,
-I have been prescribed 12 different medications.....

-Ive put on 35 lbs.....

-Ive attended PHYSICAL THERAPY

-Ive attended AQUA THERAPY

-I am currently attending AGGRESSIVE PHYSICAL THERAPY

-I have had 17 or 18 injections, and 3 denervation procedures....



Im depressed, fed up, stressed and strung out on all of this...... I dont want to be hurt, i dont want to be out of work, but they dont give a fuk.... Im a dollar sign that can be saved...... I feel ya I've been fighting workmans comp for a long time now I'm still sick but I have improved slightly there doctor said I'm fine and that my problems are not from my job and made up some crap that makes no sence at all I have two specialist from different hospitals am hour away from eachother that say my illness is from my job hell it started Wile I was at work I had told them rite after I experienced it comp laws are to protect the employer not the employee and here in Mi they just made the laws even worse they cut me off I took them to court just to finish getting help to get my life back together and ended up getting a small amount of money no medical no job retraining what they gave me is nothing I made 70,000.00 a year now nothing and I can not ever do what I did before again .sorry to here you or anyone that has to go thru this process even if its a short term thing I really hope things turn around for you soon .

[popo8]

Nothing I can post in public for now, but like CLOCK WORK... another letter sent with DRAMA news from the insurance company received today, right before the weekend.

I think they do that on purpose so that I cant confer with my attorney (I wont bother them on the weekends), or just to ruin my weekends.

SO SICK OF ALL THIS BS......

[popo8]

As if Im not going through enough BS with this issue that hospitalized me.... Im now facing the test that will decide my future as a Police Officer.

The Attorney for the Township/Insurance company sent me a letter notifying me that they ordered my FCE test.... IDK what it stands for, but its basically the physical test (like a 4 hour gym class) that will decide if I can go back to work or not.....

With not much progress after all of my procedures, I think the writing may be on the wall... but Im gonna give it hell.....

JULY 19, is the day...... sigh*

[zooguy]

...i believe you can do it Larry

[popo8]

...i believe you can do it Larry


Well, my Physical Therapist does not think so.... The things he has me doing are only a fraction of what they are going to EXPECT that I can do during the test.........

[sick70malibu]

Well, my Physical Therapist does not think so.... The things he has me doing are only a fraction of what they are going to EXPECT that I can do during the test.........

I hate when Drs and PT people say stuff like that. I believe that with the right mindset and attitude you can do anything. Keep your head up Popo and everything will work out for the best.

Sent from my now unrooted but updated DROID 2(stupid updates)

[Fixxer99TA]

Give it hell Larry, you got alot of people behind you here.

[QC97Z]

Fo Shizzle.

[popo8]

Thank you for all the votes of confidence.... I guess after 500+ days of being hurt, and a gaggillion procedures with no positive results, I don't have much confidence. I cant pick up more than 40 lbs right now..... I'm maxed out on the treadmill at 3 mph (SLOW)..... and that just aint gonna cut it...,

[94Blackbird]

Thank you for all the votes of confidence.... I guess after 500+ days of being hurt, and a gaggillion procedures with no positive results, I don't have much confidence. I cant pick up more than 40 lbs right now..... I'm maxed out on the treadmill at 3 mph (SLOW)..... and that just aint gonna cut it...,


You know your LTX peeps got your back lol

[popo8]

You know your LTX peeps got your back lol


I do know that... and thats why I love this site....

and thats why Im in the process of trying to do even more for this site.....

[popo8]

NEXT WEEK .....

[Tyler Wheat]

NEXT WEEK .....

You're back to work next week?

Or you get to do even more for this site next week? :devil:

[QC97Z]

As if Im not going through enough BS with this issue that hospitalized me.... Im now facing the test that will decide my future as a Police Officer.

The Attorney for the Township/Insurance company sent me a letter notifying me that they ordered my FCE test.... IDK what it stands for, but its basically the physical test (like a 4 hour gym class) that will decide if I can go back to work or not.....

With not much progress after all of my procedures, I think the writing may be on the wall... but Im gonna give it hell.....

JULY 19, is the day...... sigh*

^^THIS^^


You're back to work next week?

Or you get to do even more for this site next week? :devil:


^^SEE ABOVE^^

But I do like where your head's at with the site-thing :devil:

[Tyler Wheat]

Whoops! I guess I should read the whole thread next time.

Still curious about the site, though.

Best wishes, Larry!

[Badbird_96]

Well Larry good luck man. 5 days I think your gonna rock their socks off. If not say well I can still do the driving part :D (does fancy high speed maneuvering through the parking lot) just get a rook to do the running haha

[popo8]

^^THIS^^




^^SEE ABOVE^^

But I do like where your head's at with the site-thing :devil:


Whoops! I guess I should read the whole thread next time.

Still curious about the site, though.

Best wishes, Larry!


Well Larry good luck man. 5 days I think your gonna rock their socks off. If not say well I can still do the driving part :D (does fancy high speed maneuvering through the parking lot) just get a rook to do the running haha

Thank You guys..... Its all or nothing... either way, this week is going to determine the fate of my career....

[94Blackbird]

Thank You guys..... Its all or nothing... either way, this week is going to determine the fate of my career....


Good luck man! Just don't kill yourself too badly over a job that has expressed it's interest in retiring you already. Ang still needs Larry, the fuzzbutts need their daddy, and LTxtech still needs POPO8 lol.

Give it Hell man, just don't send yourself there lol

[Badbird_96]

Good luck man! Just don't kill yourself too badly over a job that has expressed it's interest in retiring you already. Ang still needs Larry, the fuzzbutts need their daddy, and LTxtech still needs POPO8 lol.

Give it Hell man, just don't send yourself there lol

Well said Jim. That's smart advise larry

[popo8]

Good luck man! Just don't kill yourself too badly over a job that has expressed it's interest in retiring you already. Ang still needs Larry, the fuzzbutts need their daddy, and LTxtech still needs POPO8 lol.

Give it Hell man, just don't send yourself there lol


WOW, thank You man.... I gotta find that fine line of doing my best, without hurting myself more...

[popo8]

Cant go into much detail.... but some drama is starting to go down.....

Paperback version: The insurance company Doctor is saying Im ok to return to work, even though the test I took 2 months ago came back and said that I should not be expected to do anything more than light to moderate duty.

Not sure what happened, but in the end that is the Doctor that works for the insurance company, and as much as I want to go back to work, my issue is not fixed, Im in the same condition I was when they took me out of work, but now magically Im ok to do full duty.....

The question is, when I get forced back in to early and someone else (or even me) gets hurt or killed cause I couldnt react.... who is liable.... and who has to live with it for the rest of their lift.

[BIG CAT]

Cant go into much detail.... but some drama is starting to go down.....

Paperback version: The insurance company Doctor is saying Im ok to return to work, even though the test I took 2 months ago came back and said that I should not be expected to do anything more than light to moderate duty.

Not sure what happened, but in the end that is the Doctor that works for the insurance company, and as much as I want to go back to work, my issue is not fixed, Im in the same condition I was when they took me out of work, but now magically Im ok to do full duty.....

The question is, when I get forced back in to early and someone else (or even me) gets hurt or killed cause I couldnt react.... who is liable.... and who has to live with it for the rest of their lift.

that sucks. i would be surprised if the pd accepts there findings considering the results of the tests.

[sick70malibu]

Damn, that's kind of bittersweet. Just keep your head up Larry and everything will fall into place.

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[96lt1m6]

That's an ugly situation! I would at this time seek legal council, have everything documented. You do not need to present the info to your superiors at that time but I certainly would in the event something occurs.

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[popo8]

Unfortunately, since the PD is ANTI ME, and short on man power... they are pro, whatever fuks me for the moment.... and unfortunately because of that I have had legal council since last Christmas when they tried to drop my benefits before....... Thank goodness for the F.O.P... and all those dues I paid finally make sense...

This whole thing fukn turns my fukn stomach!

[Badbird_96]

Damn dude that sucks... its bad when a cop makes headlines bringing in criminals and this is how he gets treated. Like the soldiers from Nam. No one deserves that especially someone giving their all for other people who can't defend themselves.

[97firehawk]

Cant go into much detail.... but some drama is starting to go down.....

Paperback version: The insurance company Doctor is saying Im ok to return to work, even though the test I took 2 months ago came back and said that I should not be expected to do anything more than light to moderate duty.

Not sure what happened, but in the end that is the Doctor that works for the insurance company, and as much as I want to go back to work, my issue is not fixed, Im in the same condition I was when they took me out of work, but now magically Im ok to do full duty.....

The question is, when I get forced back in to early and someone else (or even me) gets hurt or killed cause I couldnt react.... who is liable.... and who has to live with it for the rest of their lift.


This is crap .The same thing happened to me my doctor said im disabled for life and there doctor said that i can go back to painting and just to be clear if i were to go back to painting i will in fact die this is just one of there tricks they pay the prostitute slash doctor to say you are ok then if you don't go back to work they fire you then they try and say that you quit your job and they cut you off then you have to sue them then they starve you out and then try to force you to settle for some crap amount of money and no medical be careful and do not give up that is what they want you to do


By the way your health is more important than a job .

[popo8]

Thats kinda what Ive been warned of.... If they want to retire me... I wont be happy, but I retire with what I earned...my pension. If they want me better, then they need to stand behind me till that happens or revert to the previous statement. I will not quit, and if I am not given a chance to get better, I dont know what to do....



This is crap .The same thing happened to me my doctor said im disabled for life and there doctor said that i can go back to painting and just to be clear if i were to go back to painting i will in fact die this is just one of there tricks they pay the prostitute slash doctor to say you are ok then if you don't go back to work they fire you then they try and say that you quit your job and they cut you off then you have to sue them then they starve you out and then try to force you to settle for some crap amount of money and no medical be careful and do not give up that is what they want you to do


By the way your health is more important than a job .

[96lt1m6]

Hard to swallow Larry.. when I worked for dept 1 they did NOT make me feel supported after my incident, after the typical psychology tests that I passed flawlessly I began to think, is this job worth it? Love it or not...... It took me several weeks a lot of depression til finally I went in one day placed my badge on my Sargents desk and the rest is history......

Moral to the story is you MUST look out for yourself and only you know what will make you happy. You are a NUMBER and a human air pump to them.

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[popo8]

Looks like Monday morning i am being ordered to report for full duty. Being sneakily threatened with discipline if not termination if i fail to show up....

Upon my arrival for duty..the first issue will of course be my back..... i physically have trouble doing things.... 2nd...my firearms qualifications are expired... so i cant carry a gun on duty.... 3rd. MY LEATHER GEAR (entire belt) was given to the new part timer..... and 4th. my bullet proof vest expired 1.5 years ago..... does it sound like they put any thought into this???

If they wouldve said come do desk work or investigations...even just aknowledge light duty this would all be fine....but..... because the ins co dr who has seen me 2 times since my injury...... says he cants see anything structurally wrong..... i get released FULL DUTY....




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[Ashley]

you're right, I agree. I don't think that they did put any thought into that. that's ridiculous!

[Badbird_96]

Dude wth? That's insane

[Fastbird]

Jeez Larry, they're really putting the screwjob to you. I'm sorry man, this really blows.

[popo8]

Well...like my attorney said...if i dont show up on Monday, Ill face dicipline... and the Chief has advised me that I must use my accrued LEAVE time to do all of my medical appointments.... for an injury which occured on duty.... even the insurance company is still taking care of paying for appointments and what not...

Whatever...guess thats why I have attorneys...sigh*

[firebird_1995]

Is the chief just handing down what he's been given/told or is he acting on his own?

[popo8]

Hes acting on what the insurance companies doctor is saying, however he also has my treating physicians work status as well... He is chosing to put someone incapable of safely doing the job out on the street.

[firebird_1995]

How long have you personally known him? It blows my mind that an officer would treat another officer like this. At any time has he told anyone, "hey I know officer Hanna, if he says he is hurt, I believe him"?

[popo8]

How long have you personally known him? It blows my mind that an officer would treat another officer like this. At any time has he told anyone, "hey I know officer Hanna, if he says he is hurt, I believe him"?

WHo the chief? or the insurance companies doctor?

[firebird_1995]

Lol the chief

[popo8]

IF you mean the chief, he has been chief for 3 + years.... And if you read the past 8 pages you will see what kinda person he is... (not positive)....

The problem is the MRI show nothing structurally wrong... that must mean there is nothing wrong with me and I am faking.... right... WRONG! but yet thats how they are treating me...

The insurance company is conflicting with themselves.. my Dr says there is no way I should be on the street where I may have to be physical... their doc says Im ok, and I can return to full duty... but he is the same doc who in previous reports wrote my injury is work related and that i have reached maximum improvement and I cant be a cop anymore.... then he says go back to work full duty, so the insurance company releases me for full duty, but is still paying for doc appointments, PT, chiropractor, pain psychologis, and an up comming MRI and injection....

[firebird_1995]

I just figured an officer would believe and trust another officer. Its sad to think its not the case. I'm sorry man. Good luck on Monday, stay safe.

[popo8]

I just figured an officer would believe and trust another officer. Its sad to think its not the case. I'm sorry man. Good luck on Monday, stay safe.

u would hope... but its not that way...in fact its more like a bunch of self entitled assholes who think they deserve everything and do nothimg for it.... and clicky like high school was. Of all tge Officers I work with... btwn other depts and mine... only one guy... has ever called to check up to see how im doing since i got hurt...1.


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[Badbird_96]

One bird in the hand is worth a whole department of assholes...

[popo8]

One bird in the hand is worth a whole department of assholes...
Well said...

[Fastbird]

Larry, knowing how debilitating back issues can be when they really flare up, I so sincerely hope that the power that be at your PD come to their senses and do NOT put you out on the street. You're a big guy and I know you're in shape, but I also know that when a back issue rears it's head, it's impossible to get yourself up off the ground (been there done that). They're absolutely insane for putting you into any type of situation that could potentially leave you at such a disadvantage to less than stellar citizens.

The sucky part is that back issues are so hit or miss. I have a friend (on of my very few remaining military friends) who has been dealing with lower back problems almost as long as I have, and he's been diagnosed with NOTHING, because nothing shows up. But the issues are there, you can't fake shit like that. It's unfortunate that your PD doesn't give you the respect of believing there's an issue rather than listening to a PAID insurance company doctor who's being paid to put you back on duty.

I'm gonna be worrying for you while you're on duty buddy.

[popo8]

Larry, knowing how debilitating back issues can be when they really flare up, I so sincerely hope that the power that be at your PD come to their senses and do NOT put you out on the street. You're a big guy and I know you're in shape, but I also know that when a back issue rears it's head, it's impossible to get yourself up off the ground (been there done that). They're absolutely insane for putting you into any type of situation that could potentially leave you at such a disadvantage to less than stellar citizens.

The sucky part is that back issues are so hit or miss. I have a friend (on of my very few remaining military friends) who has been dealing with lower back problems almost as long as I have, and he's been diagnosed with NOTHING, because nothing shows up. But the issues are there, you can't fake shit like that. It's unfortunate that your PD doesn't give you the respect of believing there's an issue rather than listening to a PAID insurance company doctor who's being paid to put you back on duty.

I'm gonna be worrying for you while you're on duty buddy.


Thank You man... I gotta admit, Im actually very nervous about it. Im hoping the insurance company gets a copy of my actual Doctor's WORK STATUS, and changes their level of return to work status....


I dont know what Im gonna do, if Im the reason someone gets hurt...or worse.

[sick70malibu]

Good luck Larry, be safe out there we will all be worrying about you.

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[popo8]

Good luck Larry, be safe out there we will all be worrying about you.

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thanku... i hate soundin like a lil bitch... but im being realistic over my limitations..


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[sick70malibu]

Nah, back injuries are definitely something not to be taken lightly.

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[popo8]

Im just having a hard time tryin to understand how i can be cared abiut so little that not only is my health and life worth puttin some thought into this... but so are the otger officers whom i back up and all the residents who do but faith in us protecting them when it hits the fan....


and the worst part... the insurance company is still covering my aggressive physical therapy....my chiropractor....my pain psychologist....and my primary physician visits...pLus another upcomming MRI and another injection.... but yet IM CLEARED FOR FULL DUTY?!?!? Then if im ok.... why are they covering the bill for treatments that a person with nothing wrong...wouldnt need...




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[firebird_1995]

At the first instance you feel that your injury is putting your life or someone else's in danger, just go home. Tell the dick (I will no longer refer to him as chief), you feel your safety is in jeopardy and go home. If they want to fire you over it, let em. Wrongful termination lawsuits can bring a hefty chunk of coin nowadays. There's no way a jury is going to rule against an officer that got hurt on duty and lost his job for it. Like you mentioned earlier, your injury, and the inability to perform your job due to it, can get others or yourself hurt or worst. Its not worth it. Just go home

[popo8]

At the first instance you feel that your injury is putting your life or someone else's in danger, just go home. Tell the dick (I will no longer refer to him as chief), you feel your safety is in jeopardy and go home. If they want to fire you over it, let em. Wrongful termination lawsuits can bring a hefty chunk of coin nowadays. There's no way a jury is going to rule against an officer that got hurt on duty and lost his job for it. Like you mentioned earlier, your injury, and the inability to perform your job due to it, can get others or yourself hurt or worst. Its not worth it. Just go home

Thank You man... this site, and all of you on it, are really what I need... I normally wouldnt admit this stuff in public, but all of this really is breaking me.....

[94Blackbird]

At the first instance you feel that your injury is putting your life or someone else's in danger, just go home. Tell the dick (I will no longer refer to him as chief), you feel your safety is in jeopardy and go home. If they want to fire you over it, let em. Wrongful termination lawsuits can bring a hefty chunk of coin nowadays. There's no way a jury is going to rule against an officer that got hurt on duty and lost his job for it. Like you mentioned earlier, your injury, and the inability to perform your job due to it, can get others or yourself hurt or worst. Its not worth it. Just go home

^This. In this situation I probably would have stopped caring about the particular PD I was working for and the screwball insurance company they had. With the amount of evidence that you have against them, you'll get what's yours no matter what. It might not leave particularly good feelings between you and the Chief/PD you worked at, but it seems like they have already burned the bridges as is. If they want to risk a lawsuit, and risk being forced to payout more than what is already owed you, then that is their problem, and you really shouldn't concern yourself with it. At this point, it's time to get selfish and look out for number one.

[popo8]

I wish all this bs wouldnt happen right before weekends.... no one is in their office for me to confer with... my atty is slow gettin back to me on weekend... no one from workmans comp ins co is in on the weekend to make delivery of my docs work status..... it just puts a kink in everything...amd i sit and stew......for days.

I gotta feel that if tge insurance company gets my docs work status saying i should not be full duty... they will reverse it at least temporarily till we have a hearing to see which doctor knows best.... there has to be some kinda liability issue for them to keep me released for full duty after my docs report is read.... i mean my treating dr says no full duty... the ins co is still aknowledging something is wrong because they are still taking care of all types of medical proceedures....

sigh*


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[Ashley]

see, I was telling Jesse that if you were thinking about going through back surgery. you're going to the doctor and all, how are you able to return back to full duty?

I'm sorry that this is happening to ya.

[popo8]

see, I was telling Jesse that if you were thinking about going through back surgery. you're going to the doctor and all, how are you able to return back to full duty?

I'm sorry that this is happening to ya.

exactly... only prob is their shady dr writes something down.... and apparently its gospel.


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[Ashley]

exactly... only prob is their shady dr writes something down.... and apparently its gospel.


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
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what idiots. I bet if this were happening to them they'd reconsider.

[popo8]

lol... well of course...they wouldnt try to fuk themselves over.


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[Badbird_96]

Sound like to me it's a big middle finger. Problem is its a very sticky situation but I agree with Jim look out for what's best for you and the Popo crew.

[popo8]

Well, beard is shaved...:(

Goin out to dinner, then off to work 2moro for "full duty."

[Badbird_96]

Pics?

[popo8]

Pics?

Not the point

[Fastbird]

I wish all this bs wouldnt happen right before weekends

This is a common military tactic too. Do it last second so there's no chance for a rebuttal or to make a valid dispute to their demands. It's childish way for the leadership to get their way whether they're right or not.

[Badbird_96]

Not the point

I know Larry sorry just couldn't imagine you without the beard. Let us know how it all goes. Have you got in touch with your attorney yet?

[popo8]

I know Larry sorry just couldn't imagine you without the beard. Let us know how it all goes. Have you got in touch with your attorney yet?

Of course....

[Badbird_96]

What time do you go in tomorrow

[Tyler Wheat]

Hearing all this certainly saddens me. I would think there would be more of a brotherhood alive in a PD. I would certainly talk to the chief and lay out your situation and concerns first thing tomorrow. You've gotta lay all that out there beforehand in case anything does actually happen and most importantly to preserve your health as well. If they still send you out on full duty, then I that's your decision to make.

Keep us updated and I'll be thinking about you tomorrow, bud.

[CamaroZGuy]

dam, i have seen similar to this too many times in the Military, some one gets seen by civilian doctors, take there paper work to the military to get the profile written up and what the attending doc says is just compleatly ignored.
i wish i could give advice but i have never been is a similar situation, best of luck and i hope some thing can work out for you.

[popo8]

Thanks all... I appreciate the support.

I have laid out all of the issues with this previously both by telephone and by email, and was met by sarcastic complience (which is no compliance as all)... They dont give a damn because the Insurance companies Doctor gave the green light... if anything happens, it comes back on him.. the twp is protected.... Most humans in the HUMAN business (police officers) you would think would care about protecting and serving our residents, rather...these only care about fucking with me...

0800hrs I start my shift. In fact I have physical therapy at 1230 and was advised that I must use my accumulated LEAVE time to attend therapy which the insurance company is still paying for, which was CAUSED ON THE JOB.... Therapy for a problem...which is apparently NOT REAL.... WTF.....

[Badbird_96]

Wait so have to use your vacation time to attend therapy for a nonexistent problem that insurance is paying for? Do they cover Santa's sleigh and elves as well? That makes a huge amount of sense. Doc says nothings wrong so lets just approve him for imaginary problems and pay for it. That should be a red flag right there. Btw not saying you don't have an issue Larry making fun of that situation....

Glad to know its routine to pay insurance for an "imaginary" problem that's supposedly in your head. If they are still approving it to be paid for then there is obviously an issue and the paperwork between the doc and the pd is getting skewed somewhere...

[popo8]

I know your not saying that... in fact I dont doubt that anyone who knows how much I love my job knows that all I want is to be back..... But not at the risk of hurting myself or others getting hurt.


And on top of your example above get this...

The doctor that is releasing me ,recently ordered that test that would say whether I go back to work or not... the results of that test were that all I could do was MODERATE DUTY...\


Prior to that, his report for my visit prior stated, that In his opinion I will never recover enough to go back to full duty (in writting)

Prior to that, his first report when I first had to go to him stated, Mr Hanna is clearly in pain suffering from a WORK RELATED INJURY....


I just gave you the history backwards... can anyone explain to me how the end result can come from adding the next three things up...?????

[Badbird_96]

OK so in pain from work related injury, never be able to do full duty, and OK for moderate duty buuuutttt suddenly it's a full green light and with conversations we have had nothing has really improved so that's why I'm wondering if the doctor is being persuaded or if the paperwork if getting edited from doctor to pd

[firebird_1995]

Have you been told for sure what you are doing tomorrow? Maybe they will have you doing non-patrol jobs. You know, bookin perps and such. Maybe a stakeout in a van or something. Saying "damnit, I didn't sign up for this". :) hang in there man. Its just another test. Eyes will be watching to see how you do. Do the best you can do, but don't hide the pain. If you can't do what they ask without hurting, just don't do it. I'll be praying for ya.

[94Blackbird]

Have you been told for sure what you are doing tomorrow? Maybe they will have you doing non-patrol jobs. You know, bookin perps and such. Maybe a stakeout in a van or something. Saying "damnit, I didn't sign up for this". :) hang in there man. Its just another test. Eyes will be watching to see how you do. Do the best you can do, but don't hide the pain. If you can't do what they ask without hurting, just don't do it. I'll be praying for ya.


^This. Like I've said before, I smell a trap. Look out for number one man, if you can't do it, DON'T! No need to give them ammo when you already have everything you need to cover all your bases. Don't need to give them the "but he came in and did all his work with no complaints" argument when you're still really messed up. They will be watching you, like a freaking hawk, for any little thing they can use against you. It may be wise to (if possible) go in a little early to chat with the chief and find out exactly what his report says and make sure that he didn't have selective eyesight. I've seen it happen before with some of the guys I knew, and it's going to be up to you to look out for yourself and make sure that you aren't forced to do something you can't, either in actual ability or by doctor's orders.

Above all else, you have to look out for yourself, because no one else in your cutthroat department seems to care one bit about you.

[Sahara54]

Does your agency do it own dispatching or are you through PA State troop dispatch? I know of alot of other agencies use their light and mod duty officers as dispatch. We have had a few injured DSP officers come in and make phone contacts with complaints to free up road units.

[popo8]

Thankyou all... still appreciating all the support...

Had to take some (all natural) sleeping pills last nite cause the anxiety was chewing me up....

LETS SEE...

First, no we are not self dispatched, we are county dispatched and when i hurt myself i worked light duty till october 14th 2011...when i was advised THERE IS NO MORE LIGHT DUTY....keep in mind the light duty work i was doing was investigations.... (detective work) work that some of u may remember had me followed home by a man with a plan to kill me.... thank goodness hes dead now...THANKYOU DELAWARE VALLEY ERT.) Anyways ...that means that apparently I solve all of the crime where i work... because as of now "we have no full duty..."


sooo today...with firearm qualifications expired...my vest expired and most of my stuff missing... i sat at my desk...and did LIGHT DUTY WORK... I made an appointment to have the tailor come in and size me for a vest..... rumor is i may go to the range on Friday.... so by Monday im guessing they will expect me out on the road.

When the boss came in he handled some things then we discussed the situation.... he speaks as though the writting is on the wall and ill fight the ins co dr and work my way right into being retired... which although is not what i want...is what i will do to make sure no one (including myself) gets hurt because of what im being forced to do.... As respectfully as i could... i told him that i know he has people whom he has to listen to... and i have people looking out for my best intrest as well... my dr and my two attys.... My union atty has started the process to challenge the findings of the workmans comp dr.... who knows how long that will take.... and till then i will have to start using all of my LEAVE time to avoid being put on the street... apparently the twp atty told my atty today that the powers that be are mad that i can drive on vaca to virginia ( they think we just went to virginia...lol) and they argue...i can drive around in a car... i advised i can... as long as they can guarantee i wont have any calls that will put me or anyone at risk.....

Finally... when i was on light duty... my therapiez and dr appt were something i attended ON THE CLOCK per hpw the twp treats work related injury.... now thay im chaged to full duty... i have to burn up my LEAVE time for work related injury rehab.... ugh... we are filing a greivance on that also...

all caught up... im tired.




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[popo8]

11253

beardless.... :(


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[Tyler Wheat]

Glad to hear it wasn't a total nightmare of a day. Hopefully this idea they have of you working with no restrictions will be short-lived. Sounds like the people who are fighting for you are doing things on their end of it. Hopefully that goes through sooner than later.

Now that you've got today knocked out, some of that anxiety might go away too.

[popo8]

Glad to hear it wasn't a total nightmare of a day. Hopefully this idea they have of you working with no restrictions will be short-lived. Sounds like the people who are fighting for you are doing things on their end of it. Hopefully that goes through sooner than later.

Now that you've got today knocked out, some of that anxiety might go away too.

definitley... my people are doing what they need to.... im just hoping i have enough LEAVE time to support US when shit hits the fan.

As for the anxiety... yes... much less


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[Fixxer99TA]

Good to hear nothing went terrribly wrong today. Cant say it went right, but it wasnt a disaster...

I almost hate to read this because of what I know it does to you, but then again I still do because its wrong how they treat you and I know at some point it will be made right. You are doing what you can, keep with it and dont let them get to you...

If you stay strong, they certinly cant beat you.

[popo8]

Good to hear nothing went terrribly wrong today. Cant say it went right, but it wasnt a disaster...

I almost hate to read this because of what I know it does to you, but then again I still do because its wrong how they treat you and I know at some point it will be made right. You are doing what you can, keep with it and dont let them get to you...

If you stay strong, they certinly cant beat you.


Im staying as strong as I can.... it just sucks to know no matter what...at this point...IM IN FOR A FIGHT!


Thank You!

[Fixxer99TA]

Well then, do I need to tell you to fight?

[popo8]

Here is my facebook status... as much as it BLOWS... it makes me shake my head and giggle when I read it...


Besides the most obvious issues of going back to work under these circumstances... I walked in to the office today, and noticed my stapler was missing.... no biggie, then I noticed someone elses radio in my charger, mine was dead with a mangled antena that someone obviously swapped out for my good one (I take care of my stuff), ok, no biggie a lil glue will fix it... I open my upper cabinet and my flashlight is no longer on the charger, I pick it up and it is a gutted carcass... no battery...no bulb or inner mirror, Chief tells me he is getting LED heads , so again no big deal. He asks me when my Bullet proof vest expired, I go down stairs to find it is no longer in my locker, and I see the last uniform I took off when I got hurt still has my name tag...my collar brass and my award pins on it...but my badge is missing.... I go back up stairs to start making a list, and the two magazines I left in my desk that were loaded with .40cal ammo... are emptied and the ammo is GONE.... WTF...so this is what a nice car parked in the ghetto feels like..... welcome back Larry...

[popo8]

Well then, do I need to tell you to fight?

No sir.... Thats why I have two attorneys, and a fleet of Doctors on my side.....LETS DO THIS!

[94Blackbird]

No sir.... Thats why I have two attorneys, and a fleet of Doctors on my side.....LETS DO THIS!

LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUMMMMMBBLLLLEEEEE!!!!!

[bsgreenz]

Sorry man i used the ammo, didn't think you would be back so soon.... My bad...

[Fixxer99TA]

GET SOME!

[96LT1355Z28]

Man Larry this sucks to read. I can't imagine comming into work and feeling like your stuff has been sorted through like you weren't commin back, bunch of vultures. I've watched other Officers battle with the city and their doctors with only the FOP and their personal doctors on their side. Luckly the department admin tried to do their best but their hands are tied sometimes and when you run out of light duty stuff to do what can the admin do, they can't pay a guy to just sit and they don't have anything else that he can do. I hope it all works out for you, if you need anything let me know. As long as you stay on top of you doctor and attorney's to make sure everyone's on the same page I think you'll be ok. It sucks but it sounds like your gonna have to play the departments games for a few weeks, be careful.

[firebird_1995]

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Man you just look like a cop. Its gotta be the stache

[popo8]

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[Fixxer99TA]

Wow, its almost like he had all those pics ready...

[Badbird_96]

He did lol btw Larry need to grow one like thorns. And sorry about your stuff I would be ticked...

[popo8]

Wow, its almost like he had all those pics ready...

LOL... google images made it easy.... but its a prerequisite for the job.... lol

[popo8]

Today... i sat at my desk... and read some certification material.... for 6.5 hrs...


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[Mrs Popo8]

HAHA I like a little scruff, but ANGIE NO LIKEY LARRY WITH NO STACHE.....it does not work.....ha

[firebird_1995]

When's the new vest come in?

[hotrod96z28]

HAHA I like a little scruff, but ANGIE NO LIKEY LARRY WITH NO STACHE.....it does not work.....ha

Egyptian tickler lol

[Fixxer99TA]

Egyptian tickler lol

Wow...

[popo8]

When's the new vest come in?

the tailer comes on monday to fit me.... then it will take a while to get it.... but the chief already made it clear once im gun qualified he will give me his vest to wear ( not like he uses it, sitting in the office all day)


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[popo8]

Egyptian tickler lol

hey... ur welcome for making ur car...cover pic of the week on the FB page....


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[hotrod96z28]

Thank you

[96LT1355Z28]

What are you guys wearing for a vest? We had PACA they were great thin, light, and flexable. Now we have Second Chance cause the PACA's were more $ and they have quite a waiting list for turn around. Second Chance just feels HEAVY, they physically weigh the same but they don't wear the same! Much thicker pannels for the same threat level protection and the carrier might as well be wool! The rep said the thicker pannels are required now for all vest's to reduce trauma, IDK but it's friggin HOT and cuts my trunk flexability by 2/3's.

[popo8]

we wear XTREME armor vests...




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[popo8]

so.... finally karma had my back today!


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[94Blackbird]

so.... finally karma had my back today!


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
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So...who got raped by Karma today? Is she finally done with you?

[popo8]

So...who got raped by Karma today? Is she finally done with you?

I dont think she is done with me... but today I think she said... "not you today Larry."

Dont wanna Jinx myself yet... so Ill spill it 2moro.

[94Blackbird]

Haha, fair enough lol

[Fastbird]

I dont think she is done with me... but today I think she said... "not you today Larry."

Dont wanna Jinx myself yet... so Ill spill it 2moro.

On pins and needles here buddy, waiting for tomorrow.

[Badbird_96]

On pins and needles here buddy, waiting for tomorrow.

X2

[94Blackbird]

I dont think she is done with me... but today I think she said... "not you today Larry."

Dont wanna Jinx myself yet... so Ill spill it 2moro.


And so spake the Egyptian Board Lord. And the peasants cowarded in fearful expectation. What would mighty Pharaoh's proclamation to the masses be? Mighty Pharaoh spoke of dark and terrible magiks, being of such dark and terrible power that only might Pharaoh could wield them with no ill effect. :shiner::shiner::laugh::monkey::D

[Badbird_96]

And so spake the Egyptian Board Lord. And the peasants cowarded in fearful expectation. What would mighty Pharaoh's proclamation to the masses be? Mighty Pharaoh spoke of dark and terrible magiks, being of such dark and terrible power that only might Pharaoh could wield them with no ill effect. :shiner::shiner::laugh::monkey::D

Lmao where is that funny post thread?

[94Blackbird]

SHHHH!!! Do not mock might Pharaoh, lest mighty Pharaoh use his powers of the ban hammer on thee! All might Pharaoh wields the power over life and death itself! All hail the benevolent Egyptian Board Lord! E Pluribus Opti!

[popo8]

And so spake the Egyptian Board Lord. And the peasants cowarded in fearful expectation. What would mighty Pharaoh's proclamation to the masses be? Mighty Pharaoh spoke of dark and terrible magiks, being of such dark and terrible power that only might Pharaoh could wield them with no ill effect. :shiner::shiner::laugh::monkey::D

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[Badbird_96]

Crap he doesn't ride a chariot anymore. We are screwed

[94Blackbird]

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:claps:

Yay! The mighty and gracious Pharaoh blesses us with his presence!

[94Blackbird]

Crap he doesn't ride a chariot anymore. We are screwed

Careful, lest thou cross the line into true heresy! I, the right hand of judgement, the hammer of god, will smite thee if thou shouldst sin against our mighty and benevolent diety! :hammer:

[Badbird_96]

Look without me and my homeboys these pyramids would never have gotten built. All I'm saying is driveby whipping is now possible lol

[popo8]

well i knew karma wouldbt let me break for long.... so here is the short version cause it starts to piss me off...


Yesterday while at the office our range master (guy that qualifies us) shows up... chief says can u get larry qualified today.... he says he has to see ifvwe can get the indoor range.... he sets the apt for 1000am....

rangemaster gives me paperwork to fill out... liability stuff for the range ...
2nd to lastbquestion reads ARE YOU ON ANY MED THAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM SAFELY USING THE RANGE....i answer YES.

I address the rangemaster... he says TELL THE CHIEF...i approach the chief and tell him..
he asks me what med...and i tell him its an extended release pain med i take twice a day....

he spends the next hour faxing phone calls text messages....till he angrily calls off qualifying... i ask him..IS IT A NO GO.... he says YOU CANT GO TO THE RANGE ON THAT AND YOU CANT WORK FULL DUTY...HELL U SHOULDNT EVEN BE DRIVING....


anyways i figure...well some one fukd up... the ins co pre authorised the meds (refilled as of 3days ago).... and they released me to full duty...

soooo how can i be released to full duty while accepted treatment requires a med i cannot use while working....yet instructions are am dose and pm dose.... so its clear it would be in me 24/7....and they pay for and send me to therapy.... proceedures...even an mri this past weds for a problem i have that they claim i dont have...


yup...its like THAT.


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[popo8]

anyways... i figure this is the final point... its aknowledged treatment meds conflict with full duty...they will put me back out till im better......




KARMA SAYS NO..

F.U. LARRY......


Boss calls me as soon as i get to work today... basically tells me...if u take meds u have to take off...if not come in and work full duty... which i cant do because im not qualified.......

so yesterday my chess piece moved and i said CHECK.... today...he only moved outta CHECK.



Ps-i called my treating physicial... he is outraged...

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[94Blackbird]

Mighty Pharaoh has spoken! Mighty Pharaoh's tale of battle is most harrowing...

Ok, I'm done with that, I can't keep going lol

Glad to see at least some small part is working out for you. I imagine your boss can't be happy at all with the situation. If he's only pissed at you, though, that would be an indicator to me as to which path would be most beneficial to your over all well being...

[Badbird_96]

Dude.... that is the craziest stuff I've heard yet. Can they not make up their minds what they want to do or is it just gonna be this limbo crap?

[Fastbird]

Really?? I don't even know what to say Larry, except that's FAWKED up. Bad.

[Fixxer99TA]

Boss tells Larry to do something Boss knows Larry cant do without being off meds, while on meds.

Larry tells boss exactly what boss expected to hear.

Boss is outraged as a result.

...Sounds like a reasonable guy.

[SMok3 Em A11]

Sounds like a dick to me!!! Wtf can these mfers not make up there mind????? Man I hope they start treating you better soon Larry if not the ltx crew may have to pay them some visits.lol

[popo8]

Its very depressing... they are more intent on butting heads with me or anything that shows that my health or best intrest is in consideration....

If they gave a damn.. they would go to bat for me, with the insurance company being all over the place... now they just fuk me...

[Ashley]

don't mess with the zohan!

[Badbird_96]

Hmm hack the databases get addresses.... have to hit multiple targets at once so we are gonna need a few able bodies. This problem can be resolved...

Delete this after reading guys....























Lmao seriously though that's ridiculous dude. The chief guy dude just seems like an ass to me. My boss is like that. When things are going smooth he is your best friend when things turn south he turns on you...

[popo8]

WHat really sucks now is my internal conflicts.....

You all know by now, since the beginning, I thought about lying about being better just to get back to what I love doing...

Since then, they fought me on every turn... barely giving me light duty... after a while cutting me off on light duty.... asking me to come back for a weekend to do light duty, but my work status had been changed to no work... I got my doctor to clear me for light duty, just for the Chief to say never mind, stay home....... then I stay home.. the entire time doing injections, denervations (NERVE BURNING) Physical Therapy, Aqua Therapy, Chiropractor, Aggressive Physical Therapy, etc etc etc.... Then the insurance companies attorney sends me a letter asking me what I was looking for to settle and get out.... I ignore it, because I dont want to retire.. I spend time fighting being forced into retirement, because I want to get better and get back to being a cop....then all of the sudden that Insurance company Dr, that had only ever seen me twice, and didnt treat my condition at all...releases me to full duty well before Im physically capable.... off the record, he says Im lying and exagerating.... My chiropractor who is half my size cant believe they would release me.. he tells me "I could take you down to the ground with out breaking a sweat" and I dont doubt it... My treating physician says, I need to get an attorney (which I have 2) because if I get into a struggle, besides the dangers of losing the fight, I have a chance of damaging whatever it is that has not been identified, and causing permanent damage... my treating physician prior to him whom I no longer see because on our last visit, I got upset when he told me, "You will never be a police officer again."
The insurance company still pays for my treatments and meds.... but release me to work because that dr says Im OK (lying and exagerating)....well then what the fuck am I being treated for... and how can you release me to full duty as a police officer while presenting me with a narcotic as my daily treatment... NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE, and Im truly LOSING IT....

[94Blackbird]

WHat really sucks now is my internal conflicts.....

You all know by now, since the beginning, I thought about lying about being better just to get back to what I love doing...

Since then, they fought me on every turn... barely giving me light duty... after a while cutting me off on light duty.... asking me to come back for a weekend to do light duty, but my work status had been changed to no work... I got my doctor to clear me for light duty, just for the Chief to say never mind, stay home....... then I stay home.. the entire time doing injections, denervations (NERVE BURNING) Physical Therapy, Aqua Therapy, Chiropractor, Aggressive Physical Therapy, etc etc etc.... Then the insurance companies attorney sends me a letter asking me what I was looking for to settle and get out.... I ignore it, because I dont want to retire.. I spend time fighting being forced into retirement, because I want to get better and get back to being a cop....then all of the sudden that Insurance company Dr, that had only ever seen me twice, and didnt treat my condition at all...releases me to full duty well before Im physically capable.... off the record, he says Im lying and exagerating.... My chiropractor who is half my size cant believe they would release me.. he tells me "I could take you down to the ground with out breaking a sweat" and I dont doubt it... My treating physician says, I need to get an attorney (which I have 2) because if I get into a struggle, besides the dangers of losing the fight, I have a chance of damaging whatever it is that has not been identified, and causing permanent damage... my treating physician prior to him whom I no longer see because on our last visit, I got upset when he told me, "You will never be a police officer again."
The insurance company still pays for my treatments and meds.... but release me to work because that dr says Im OK (lying and exagerating)....well then what the fuck am I being treated for... and how can you release me to full duty as a police officer while presenting me with a narcotic as my daily treatment... NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE, and Im truly LOSING IT....

It's all typical games an bullshit. It's not supposed to make sense. Just remember, everything'll work out in the end. Just stay calm and remember, weight of evidence is on your side.

[popo8]

Great

thanku man... i hope ur rite


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[Badbird_96]

Stay strong Larry

[popo8]

Stay strong Larry

Thanks man....

[96LT1355Z28]

Man this sucks, it seems like the doctors and insurance company only scan over your medical record. Since they're not paying attention to details and what you've already done they quickly try and diagnose "what's fastest" for them and send it off. Then your stuck being the middle man with conflictiong stories from so many different people who have their own motives and, non of which are talking with each other about the situation. This really sucks to watch and I can't inagine the stress it's putting on you, keep your head up.

Is there an academy near you? A few years ago I became an emergency vehicle driving instructor so our city would get a discount on insurance premiums for having a driving instructor on staff. Because of that now I'm one of a handfull of instructors and the Western Missour Regional Police Academy teaching slow speed skills, skid pad control, and pursuit driving to academy recruits. We also do yearly training for my department and several others in the KC metro. It's a TON of fun and pays an hourly rate equal to my overtime rate now! I've decided if something happened that prevented me form working the road I'd go to the academy full time. All of the instructors at our academy are full time or retired cops, just something to think about.

[popo8]

THank you bro... I have thought of it... and Im not sure what kind of back ground or education I need... but I def have considered teaching or training.....

Im thinking the writting may be on the wall for me though... :(




Great ideas...

[sick70malibu]

Im sorry to hear that Larry :( we all know how much this job means to you. Just stay strong and possibt start looking into becoming an instructor. You said you have a strong background in investigation maybe look for something along those lines?

Sent from My HTC Rezound

[popo8]

Im sorry to hear that Larry :( we all know how much this job means to you. Just stay strong and possibt start looking into becoming an instructor. You said you have a strong background in investigation maybe look for something along those lines?

Sent from My HTC Rezound

Ive been trying not to accept it for so long, that I push those thoughts aside.... I dont WANT to do anything else, so why would I think about what else I can do... Unfortunatley, for now all I have to focus on is the fight.... the Insurance Company Dr, has to be discredited.......then I can be concerned with retiring..(it kills me to say it...)

Till then, I really cant even consider anything else...

Thank You all for your support, and for those who PM me, and talk to me other ways...I want you to know, I really appreciate it....

[popo8]

Blahhhhh, hours away from goin in again...

2moro the tailor is comming in to size me for my new vest..... then I have PT at 1230, so I have to leave at 1130......

But I think after that, Im going to have to take off everyday.... and burn up my leave time....

I spoke with my Dr, and he does not want me to stop taking the pain med "treatment" (1 in the am and 1 in the pm) so that it can continue to control the pain (it does not stop it, but it does reduce the amount of times I have spiked to being unable to move.....

I hate burning up my time... I did the math and I have about 400 hours of leave time... at 40 hours a week that will buy me 10 weeks... that's only 2 and a half months.... if we have not fought and beaten the insurance company Doctor by then.... Im gonna be fukd........BAD!

[97firehawk]

Blahhhhh, hours away from goin in again...

2moro the tailor is comming in to size me for my new vest..... then I have PT at 1230, so I have to leave at 1130......

But I think after that, Im going to have to take off everyday.... and burn up my leave time....

I spoke with my Dr, and he does not want me to stop taking the pain med "treatment" (1 in the am and 1 in the pm) so that it can continue to control the pain (it does not stop it, but it does reduce the amount of times I have spiked to being unable to move.....

I hate burning up my time... I did the math and I have about 400 hours of leave time... at 40 hours a week that will buy me 10 weeks... that's only 2 and a half months.... if we have not fought and beaten the insurance company Doctor by then.... Im gonna be fukd........BAD!

Please be prepared for the worst these assholes will hold out until you are desperate but if you can go just a little farther than they expect they will fold.
i am really rooting for you on this as i have been thru this, it's a tough battle and i want to see you succeed heath wise and career and financially .

[popo8]

Please be prepared for the worst these assholes will hold out until you are desperate but if you can go just a little farther than they expect they will fold.
i am really rooting for you on this as i have been thru this, it's a tough battle and i want to see you succeed heath wise and career and financially .

thanku.....


i realy do appreciate the support.


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[popo8]

And the "CHESS" game continues....

[popo8]

Well as you all (who are still following know)..... I was given an ultimatum to either go to work (which even though full duty means sitting at a desk because I am not qualified with my firearm) or take my medications that were prescribed by MY treating physician, and use my accumulated leave time to NOT GO IN.

Well, as of Thursday, I tried stopping my scheduled med....I made it through the weekend ok, but from sunday night till today, I have progressively gotten more of the pain back, and am nearly unable to walk/move.... so it looks like Im going to have to use my Leave time, so I can take my med regimen....

It suck, because they know they are gonna put me in a tough spot, and I am going to run out of leave time.... and they are hoping I will get desperate.... But I have to worry about now for NOW, because Im now progressively getting worse by the day.

sigh*

[Ashley]

I hope everything starts to work out.

[Badbird_96]

Your more important than that job. Stay in touch with your lawyers for sure

[97firehawk]

Your more important than that job. Stay in touch with your lawyers for sure

I agree . ^^^

[popo8]

In contact with my attorney, nearly Daily via email (whether he responds or not), he is CC'd on every email to everyone.....

My treating Chriopractor called me today, and is disgusted by the games that are being played....

That makes :

My Primary Care Physician
My Treating Physicain for the injury
My Previous Treating Physician for the injury
The two treating Physicians for the injury
My Treating Chiropractor
and even the Nurse case manager assigned by the insurance company, that all know, I should not be FULL duty.

Thats 6 physicians, and one non physician, and I was released to work, by one guy... a Physician for the insurance Company who NEVER treated me, and saw me twice (once for an exam and the 2nd time only to discuss pain) is the one that says Im ok......


I know the PI's or the insurance company,the assholes who know me that are willing to back stab me, or even my chief are probably in here following what I write, and same with facebook...no matter how private I set stuff up... I know it, because there is info I have posted that has come back to me....


But I dont Bullshit... I only post what IS, and Im tired of this game... If everyone would just be up front instead of playing fukin games, this shit could be resolved easily......




PS, for the last two weeks at work... Ive ridden a desk.... and stare at the computer.... when I ask if there is anything the Chief had for me to do, he gave me an investigation to locate a TV remote that was observed in one of 4 vehicles that were stolen and recovered 6 months ago....SERIOUSLY!!!!!

It would be cheaper to use the TWPs money to buy the alleged victim a new TV with a remote than paying me $33.22/hr to do that!

[96LT1355Z28]

This is absolute BULLSHIT. At least through this thread you have great documentation as to the hoops you've had to jump through and the mixed "professional" advice you've been told by all the doctors.

[popo8]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/jegenaqa.jpg


ohhh ive got some documentation ...lol


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[Ashley]

that is some freaking documentation! lol.

also.. also.. that's A LOT to have "nothing" wrong with you to go back to work. :confused:

[popo8]

that is some freaking documentation! lol.

also.. also.. that's A LOT to have "nothing" wrong with you to go back to work. :confused:

i have a bit of ocd... organization is my thing!




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[Ashley]

i have a bit of ocd... organization is my thing!




Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
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at least you're on top of everything like that! you could be f'd

[Ashley]

damn phone!

** f'd if you didn't have that! lol.

[popo8]

damn phone!

** f'd if you didn't have that! lol.

i know.... im like that with all that i do...DOCUMRNT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT...


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[94Blackbird]

i know.... im like that with all that i do...DOCUMRNT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT...


Larry (Popo8) Co-owner
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And THAT is the way to do it man. Make your stack of papers bigger than theirs!

[popo8]

And THAT is the way to do it man. Make your stack of papers bigger than theirs!

Lol.... you know it....

Wont be long till its heavier than Im allowed to lift...lol

[popo8]

Well even takin my meds today im still gimp.... i was afraid it was gonna take time to become active again...

after all it took 4.5 days to fade outta my system....

sigh*


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[Badbird_96]

Limp like a pimp larry

[Fixxer99TA]

"Slip and Jerk"


Sounds like a ..... Well, Im not going to say it...

[popo8]

Limp like a pimp larry

i do... dont have much of a choice.


"Slip and Jerk"


Sounds like a ..... Well, Im not going to say it...


gay porn?

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[firebird_1995]

Pitching or catching?

[popo8]

Pitching or catching?

well by the way the whole thing is going.... im catching :(


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[popo8]

Chief,

I will be unable to respond for duty Weds the 19th due to severe back pain. I will need to begin my prescribed medication again, which I had attempted to stop so I could be at the office, but as you previously advised, I am not allowed to work in the office while taking the medication that my treating Physician prescribed for my work related injury.


Sincerely,



Larry Hanna #8

[popo8]

Chief,

It appears as though Thursday will also need to be taken off for a continuation of the same reason.


Thank You,


Larry

[popo8]

Surely after the last two days of the last two emails.... I would receive a response...."hope you feel better." "keep us updated..." "go fuk yourself Larry..."

But nope...... nothing.....

[Badbird_96]

Hope you get to feeling better Larry. We care here.

[popo8]

Hope you get to feeling better Larry. We care here.

I know, and as much as a dick as I can be sometimes, busting balls, or getting irritated, and not filtering my thoughts....

I do know you all do.... and I know Ive beaten this to death.... but outside of Miss Popo, this is my only real VENT...even if

no one responds....

THIS PROVES YOU ALL CARE:


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[97firehawk]

Surely after the last two days of the last two emails.... I would receive a response...."hope you feel better." "keep us updated..." "go fuk yourself Larry..."

But nope...... nothing.....

It sucks that they treat you and or anyone this way but it's how they handle it my bosses did they same to me they never wanted to act like i existed .. Keep you head up it part of the battle.

[firebird_1995]

I love the part where you said "as you previously advised" and "medication my physician prescribed for a work related injury". He was probably advised NOT to respond by their lawyers!

[popo8]

I love the part where you said "as you previously advised" and "medication my physician prescribed for a work related injury". He was probably advised NOT to respond by their lawyers!

Im a very, "factual," "put it out there," kinda person.

[BLK95-Z]

Damn dude....I honestly dont know what to say. Are you afraid they might try to fire you for taking off? Can they?

[popo8]

Damn dude....I honestly dont know what to say. Are you afraid they might try to fire you for taking off? Can they?


No... thats really one of the least of my concerns, because I have about 400 hours of paid LEAVE time, that I am "pre approved" to use.....

[BLK95-Z]

Thats good. Can you still take off those days even if your chief doesnt give you the ok? I mean its their doctor right?

[popo8]

Thats good. Can you still take off those days even if your chief doesnt give you the ok? I mean its their doctor right?

Its their dr that said there is nothing wrong with me.... Im not sure what your asking...

its my LEAVE time, has nothing to do with Doctors

[96LT1355Z28]

What sucks is that because the insurance company is looking out to save their wallet, it's costing you YOUR aquired leave time that's supposed to be for vacation or personal days NOT work injuries.

[popo8]

What sucks is that because the insurance company is looking out to save their wallet, it's costing you YOUR aquired leave time that's supposed to be for vacation or personal days NOT work injuries.

Exactly... the thing I do not understand though, is that when I was light duty.... for the same injury, my treatments were on the clock...now that I am "FULL" duty, I have to go to the same treatments for the same injury on my aaquired time....
And they can say nothing is wrong with me all they want... the insurance company is still paying for my treatments, and my meds.... CONFLICT????

[BLK95-Z]

I was referring to the un-answered emails you sent your chief about taking off for the doc. Sorry lol

[popo8]

I was referring to the un-answered emails you sent your chief about taking off for the doc. Sorry lol

lol... sorry, I have a hard time reading outside the box... just didnt understand... No, further back in the thread I explained how he sent me a smart ass email when I was first ordered back, but my doctorS didnt agree, that if I cant do it, I have plenty of leave time on the books which "I will approve." SO I dont think that is a worry for now....

[popo8]

Chief,


I just wanted you to know that I am feeling better since getting some rest off my feet, and restarting my medicine.

Unfortunately I will not be in tomorrow (Friday the 21st) due to an appointment for another injection at Performance Spine for my work related injury and I will have to take medication (valium) in preparation.


Thank You,



Larry Hanna #8

[popo8]

Soooo, I forgot to update something interesting... and again, I put this out there, because I have nothing to hide.

A good friend of mine, in the same line of work as me is friends with a Police Officer in another Dept.....

Apparently, a cop from that other department saw me hanging out at KNOPPS PERFORMANCE, the garage where we built my

car, and my hangout..... That cop made a sarcastic (ball busting) comment, that went something like, "look at Hanna ,

outta work and down at Knopps pulling motors outta cars..." Well that got back to my Chief.... apparently, my Chief went

to that other police department when the officer that said that was working and confronted him, asking, DID YOU

PERSONALLY SEE LARRY HANNA MOVING ENGINES WHILE HE IS OUT OF WORK? , The Officer looked at him and said "no, I

did see him there, but he was just hanging out like he always does."


Apparently, my Chief's facial expression went from giddy to SOMEONE JUST RAN OVER MY DOG.....

[Badbird_96]

Your chief needs punched in the mouth. If you will help me "escape" I will help you with that. Seriously that's bull dude. Sounds like he is out to get you

[popo8]

Your chief needs punched in the mouth. If you will help me "escape" I will help you with that. Seriously that's bull dude. Sounds like he is out to get you

I know ... he is.




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[popo8]

Btw, at a Dr appointment now.....

and have an injection at 1245pm

all paid for by the insurance company.... all for a problem i "dont have."


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[Chris]

You must really like needles then. I passed out last time I got a blood test.

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[Ashley]

Btw, at a Dr appointment now.....

and have an injection at 1245pm

all paid for by the insurance company.... all for a problem i "dont have."


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you know I went back and read this from your post in 2011 to post my first comment, about it being ridiculous. the more you update this thread about your back and about the "problem you don't have" well frankly kinda pisses me off that they still think you have no freaking problem. like really? they're still paying for all your doctors visits for a problem you DON'T have, but yet you have to take your own time off and not be on the clock. just yeah. :banghead:I hope today goes well for you though.

[popo8]

You must really like needles then. I passed out last time I got a blood test.

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LOL... Its funny, as long as I dont look I can deal with them just fine..... but I have never been a fan of them.... In fact, I have to take valium so that I can relax enough while they drive them wayyyy in.......

I cant believe they think I do this as a hobby.... and if my boss or the insurance co would read the release I sign everytime I get an injection, they would see that I risk paralysis every time.... something I think we can agree MOST people would only risk because they want to try anything to STOP THE PAIN...



you know I went back and read this from your post in 2011 to post my first comment, about it being ridiculous. the more you update this thread about your back and about the "problem you don't have" well frankly kinda pisses me off that they still think you have no freaking problem. like really? they're still paying for all your doctors visits for a problem you DON'T have, but yet you have to take your own time off and not be on the clock. just yeah. :banghead:I hope today goes well for you though.


Well I know it was prob alot of reading, and I appreciate you going back and reading it... what kills me is that when I got hurt and they put me out of work... I contemplated faking that I was OK, to not leave my partners and that township hang..... But through alot of thinking, and the advice of friends here and my candid Doctors, I bit the bullet and admitted weakness, and I went out...... and now a full 180*

Its like no matter what I chose, they chose the opposite, just to battle me....

THanks Again....

[popo8]

after three days off i got a response from the boss.....he wrote;

"ok, I will need you to email me your hours for Monday morning payroll."


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[firebird_1995]

Those injections huuuuuuurt. The feeling of that needle is unexplainable. If they don't help, stop getting them. My doctor said you're only supposed to get 3 epidurals a year at the most.

[popo8]

Those injections huuuuuuurt. The feeling of that needle is unexplainable. If they don't help, stop getting them. My doctor said you're only supposed to get 3 epidurals a year at the most.

Yes they do hurt the issue is tgey are not all epidurals.... im more like a dart boarf im a dark room.... ive had them in the si joints... the epidurals...the piriformas.....the list goes on... and all multiple times.... this week the dr tried something dif wondering if the pai is coming from damage to my him from my manipulated walk..... if u dont know.... the hip injection is done with a 3.5" needle... just off to the side of MY JUNK!!!!


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[firebird_1995]

Aaaaand now I understand the need for Valium. Damn man

[popo8]

Aaaaand now I understand the need for Valium. Damn man

Oh, yeah.. it was bad.... and CLOSE....


UPDATE...

Just went through all of my leave time for the year that I had accumulated... I have 295.5 hours left...


At 40 hours a week, that means that I can only take off 7.5 straight weeks, until, I have to go on unpaid leave..... and thats assuming that I can go on UNPAID leave and they wont try to can me... Guess I have something else to discuss with my attorney....


Now for the good news.


As I had mentioned before, I had an MRI of my hip because my treating Physician believed there is a chance that I may have a laberal tear in the hip joint, which is causing MORE pain overall.... the MRI did not show a tear, but the Dr explained that laberal tears without a die injected first can be very difficult to detect....sooooo.... we took a shot in the dark and on Friday, I took a (I believe its a steroid) injection into my hip... and holy shit...., I have alot of relief... Now I can still feel the pain in my back, but there is a bunch of pain that is currently "missing" since the day after the injection......

Now I am on my pain meds again, which I take regularly till I force myself to work, till they totally leave my system, and the pain becomes unbearable again (then I stay home and take my meds)...all because I have to ration my time..UGH!

Anyways, now I need to contact my treating physician and get the MRI done with the DYE, however, we have proven that there is another RELATED issue, and Im hoping we can reverse my work status with the insurance company now.... we will see..


PS- if any of the spys are reading this ....THIS ^^^ is whats coming next.

[Badbird_96]

Dude 3.5" needle I would faint. I don't do needles at all

[popo8]

Dude 3.5" needle I would faint. I don't do needles at all

There comes a point when your so desperate for relief... your willing to do and try things you dont want to , or never thought you would....

Im that desperate...


(even though these cock sucking faggots think Im faking and I do all this for the fun of it....)

[popo8]

Dude 3.5" needle I would faint. I don't do needles at all

There comes a point when your so desperate for relief... your willing to do and try things you dont want to , or never thought you would....

Im that desperate...


(even though these cock sucking faggots think Im faking and I do all this for the fun of it....)

[Badbird_96]

There is nothing fun about that

[popo8]

Its like the least of my worries anymore.....


All Im concerned with is , if we have not gone to court yet to reverse this BS, will they try to can me when my LEAVE time runs out.... or, is it acceptable to take UNPAID leave?

[popo8]

Ahhh, so today...Monday...

I get up, I skip my meds, because I am gonna go to work, and do what I can.... Not to mention I dont want to burn up to much leave time to quickly.... I know that I am still not certified with my duty weapon, so Im just riding a desk.

I pull in at quarter of 7am... and am talking with one of the guys in the lot...That Officer says to me, "what are youdoing here, (insert other officer name here) said your not coming to work anymore." I explained to him that once my full duty actually consists of going out on patrol, that may very well be the case, but as of now, the chances of me hurting myself more, are low.... At that time the Chief pulls in, and there is something on the roof of his car. Being nice, I mention to him that there is something on it (he has a Cherokee, and is not that tall)... he says to me "SHIT, is it still up there?" grabs the item and heads inside.... no thanks, no laugh, no nothing... no biggie.

I follow inside to make sure I get credit for being there at 7am..... I sit down, and go through the notes and paperwork that was waiting for me since last week when I was off. The Chief has already gone into his office and closed his door ( a door that is always open) I can hear that low tone phone conversation that is done to keep people from hearing you.. then I can hear his text messaging going off non stop, maybe Im paranoid and it has nothing to do with me... but my gut tells me different.. I do some paperwork from 7-745, and I head over to the road crew garage for a small cup of coffee and to BS....

After being out there for a bit, I head back into the office, just as the Chief is heading out.. I make small talk, "heading out?" and am ignored as he goes out and locks the front door behind him.... I go back to my desk, and I check my emails....
I decide to call my physical therapist to see if I can reschedule my appointments to later in the day, so I dont have to burn up 4 hours for a 1.5 hour PT appointment. I get it changed to later in the day... GREAT, but now what.
Realizing there is nothing to do, I get my duty weapon out... break it down, and start cleaning it... the damn thing all but shines after 45 minutes of cleaning....

Now I sit there some more, and answer the phone a few times... At 1230 I eat an Italian hoagie that one of the road crew guys picked up for me... then I head back up to my desk. I BS with the secretary for a bit, mess around with my flashlight that needed a bulb that had been stolen while I was away.....

2pm rolls around, and the secretary leaves (she only works 4 hours a day)... I stay for another 15 minutes then head to my PT appointment.... Thats right.... 7hrs and 15 minutes, to clean a gun... eat lunch , drink coffee.... all because there is no light duty work for me to do, and I am not qualified to do full duty, which allows me to have an excuse not to stay home and burn up my leave time... and this all costs the twp, $33.22/hr.... oh well.

So all that time, no contact with the Chief other than when I arrived. I meet with my physical therapist at 3 and I do my routine... he tells me to make sure I put no less that 1.5 hours in before I leave because the Insurance company is calling and now wanting my exact check in and check outs to PT... I ask him why they would do that... he explains that they usually do that for people that leave work for PT then go off and do their own thing afterwards while on the clock....

WTF?!?!?! I use my own leave time because I have to for PT, and I even rescheduled it to be later in the day to not affect my work shift to much.... why does it matter... MY LEAVE TIME, I can do what I want with it as long as its approved... and the Chief (in writting) pre approved my leave time...

I dont get it... Im exhausted... Im not a liar... Im not a faker... I allow so many proceedures be done to me just for the hope that the next one will be the one to make it stop hurting..... Its just a game to them... its a game that I am like the visiting team, however I have no control over any of my players....(if that makes sense)

We will see what 2morro brings....

[94Blackbird]

That's about all you can do at this point man. Wish there was something else I could tell ya, but there's not much more that I can think of past what we already discussed.

[SMok3 Em A11]

What the hell is wrong with these people it makes no sense for your chief to act so immature and ignore you and avoid you. Why does he care if you are really hurt or not? He doesn't have to pay a dime for any of it?? Its hard to believe that people turn on others that may have done many good things for them for something that can't even be helped. Wow!!!!

What are your options legally?

[popo8]

That's about all you can do at this point man. Wish there was something else I could tell ya, but there's not much more that I can think of past what we already discussed.

I know.. but on a good note... my hip injection the other day (friday) really did alleviate some pain... so my treating physician will be ordering another MRI with dye, to try to get a better look at the problem.... then we may be able to get me feeling better. Its not making my back stop hurting, but you know when so much hurts it feels like one big pain.... well for now, my one big pain has gotten smaller.