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Speed Inc.
10-24-2008, 08:08 AM
I have a couple hours of misc things to button my new 396 today and then prep the car for the install tomorrow.
12.4:1 comp ...plan to run a mix of 93/100
Callies Dragon Slayer crank
Callies 4 bolt splayed caps
Eagle H-Beam max stroke rods ( cnc'd for use of a std. base circle cam )
SRP pistons ( fully coated )
LE custom HR cam
LS7 lifters
Speed Inc LT1 ported heads 48cc - Ls6 valves - Patriot Xtreme springs
Speed Inc LT1 ported intake
Crower 1.6 NSA rockers
Manley pushrods
BBK 58 MM with minor porting
ASP UP / Dampner
Hamburger pan and pickup
Melling pump
added LPP headers to my build going into a custom 3" ORY / custom 4 catback w/ Magnaflow ( previous headers where Hooker )
added a Yank SS4000 ( previous converter was a Vig 3600 )
added a little powder coating and polishing ( The Powder Pro )
I hope to have all the small loose ends wrapped up & the car running by Sunday.
The plan is to tune Tuesday and be at the track testing Sat. Nov 1st http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif
oh yeh..add another 50HP to the shot
what do I expect HP wise? 400+ rwhp
what do I expect ET wise ? well I like to set my goals low so.....
NA 11.4 or better @ 116+
N20 10.3 or better @ 130+
old stock short combo went 11.7@114 NA
10.5@126 with a way loose stall and a 150 shot
This is a car with power steering and a 4L60E which I plan to drive everywhere.
I will take some pics and update anyone that interested over the weekend.
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bidicamaro
10-24-2008, 08:33 AM
:drool:I wanna see...
Fastbird
10-24-2008, 09:51 AM
Sounds like it's going to be a healthy setup! Keep us posted.
1FASTSS
10-24-2008, 11:03 AM
Wow...I assume 396 over 383 for torque reasons or is it something else? Did you use your same block or another? I was just talking about starting a new short block build the other day with my Dad...funny! Good luck I sure it will turn out as nice if not nicer than the black car you had.
BTW, I think 400rwhp NA is a little low for you.
catchmyz
10-24-2008, 01:10 PM
Noticed you stated you plan on running a mix of 93/100, not saying that you might not have to run it but my current setup is 12.6 to 1 and I run straight 93 octane in it, never knocks.
Z28pr0jekt
10-24-2008, 02:00 PM
Noticed you stated you plan on running a mix of 93/100, not saying that you might not have to run it but my current setup is 12.6 to 1 and I run straight 93 octane in it, never knocks.
with the nitrous i dont blame him for the mix, n/a he should be ok depending on how much timing he puts in it
catchmyz
10-24-2008, 02:22 PM
yeah I was referring to street usage, when I run my car at the strip I plan on running higher octane.
Tyler Wheat
10-24-2008, 04:08 PM
Definately keep us posted.
Nocturnal Z
10-24-2008, 04:14 PM
Awesome Larry, I can't wait for the pics :cool:
Blubird
10-24-2008, 09:33 PM
where did you buy your callies crank ?
1hottcamaro
10-24-2008, 09:36 PM
Sounds like its going to be bad :asshole: !
Speed Inc.
10-24-2008, 09:50 PM
I actually got the 396 short from a customer / friend and it had a lifter let go which damaged a bore a couple years back. We repaired the lifter bore, replaced the bearings, rings, coated the pistons, honed block, and replace the rods to run a std. base circle cam.
compression wise I should be o.k with 93 and the cam LE spec'd, but if a mix is needed I'm cool with that
I will run straight 110 fuel on the bottle.
I think that answers the questions
long block is done and I spent the evening getting the car and misc stuff ready for install tomorrow
now off to home to get some rest and be ready for a busy day tomorrow :)
Fixxer99TA
10-25-2008, 12:04 AM
Very nice setup, keep us posted. I always love to hear about 396s :D
Driving it everyday/everywhere is the best part about it though.
justatoy
10-25-2008, 07:58 AM
Sounds like a very nice setup. But I was still impressed with it at the shootout. Hope everything turns out for you. Can't wait to see it finished.
AChotrod
10-25-2008, 12:47 PM
:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool: where are you going to test it out?
Speed Inc.
10-25-2008, 01:06 PM
motor is in
lots of little loose ends to wrap up today/tomorrow
you guys will like the motor pics once posted :)
Byron Dragway will get the honor of the test hits !
AChotrod
10-25-2008, 01:23 PM
I might have to take off work and check it out! I havent had my car to Byron yet.
Fixxer99TA
10-25-2008, 03:25 PM
Post up the results when you have em'!
James Montigny
10-25-2008, 08:30 PM
Can't wait to see how it does :D
jakesz28
10-25-2008, 08:48 PM
motor is in
lots of little loose ends to wrap up today/tomorrow
you guys will like the motor pics once posted :)
Byron Dragway will get the honor of the test hits !
When are you headed there? I've been meening to hit that track up but haven't been there yet. Are you coming down to cordova next weekend(MFBA)? I just rewired the two kits and put double adjustables on the the back of the car. I want to pull the big trigger next week I just hope the weather is nice like it was today. I've been spinning the new tires on the rims, hopefully they hold up for another day at the track.
Speed Inc.
10-25-2008, 09:56 PM
I will be sure to post results of the dyno and track when available.
maybe a start up video tomorrow if I can remember the camera
Byron is Nov 1st and I will not be making Cordova since I have plans that evening and would never be back in time
Flyinz
10-26-2008, 12:21 PM
Subrscribing :)
Speed Inc.
10-26-2008, 01:53 PM
few pics
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture011.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture006-1.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture005.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture004.jpg
Speed Inc.
10-26-2008, 01:55 PM
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture013.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture019.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture042.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/Picture043.jpg
Speed Inc.
10-26-2008, 01:57 PM
cutout closed v's open
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/th_Picture044.jpg (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/?action=view¤t=Picture044.flv)
grn95t/a
10-26-2008, 02:27 PM
f'n sweet! looks and sounds awsome!
Speed Inc.
10-26-2008, 02:39 PM
thanks
Chased
10-26-2008, 05:02 PM
thanks
Wow bro:claps:....maybe I should have stayed out there last night and helped today!!!
Chased
10-26-2008, 05:06 PM
you need a password to view the album
BluBeaSSt
10-26-2008, 05:50 PM
where did you buy your callies crank ?
Maybe Speed Inc?:cool: :laugh:
Set up sounds mean!
Speed Inc.
10-26-2008, 06:00 PM
Maybe Speed Inc?:cool: :laugh:
Set up sounds mean!
good answer :)
thanks
Chased
10-26-2008, 06:38 PM
build me one
Speed Inc.
10-26-2008, 08:25 PM
build me one
get motivated and get the cam handled, then plan for a fuel system revision and more spray :)
Chased
10-26-2008, 08:54 PM
get motivated and get the cam handled, then plan for a fuel system revision and more spray :)
yeh yeh..... i have the second intank i can put in... more juice i'd need bigger noids or that dry kit i have
1FASTSS
10-27-2008, 08:34 AM
build me one
Me too! Sounds nice...
Speed Inc.
10-27-2008, 09:48 AM
Me too! Sounds nice...
:)
I should have some info for you tomorrow on the other goods.
1FASTSS
10-27-2008, 11:25 AM
:)
I should have some info for you tomorrow on the other goods.
Talk to you then:cheers:
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 11:44 AM
sounds awesome! Whats with ther change in sound during the vid.. Cut out???
Anyways looks amazing! That relo kit looks killer!!!!
Speed Inc.
10-27-2008, 01:39 PM
sounds awesome! Whats with ther change in sound during the vid.. Cut out???
Anyways looks amazing! That relo kit looks killer!!!!
yes cutout open and closed
update:
We did a little break in and tuning today, but my MAF is bad so it has halted things at the moment.
unlocked and the converter seemed to flash over 5K which is odd
409 rwhp
We made 1 locked run and it made
447 rwhp
I think with a few tweaks after the new MAF we'll see 450-455.
This is with a 4L60E, CM DS, S60 w/ 3.73 and spool, 28" M/T Radials on Street Lites.
BTW : I'm more then happy so far.
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1FASTSS
10-27-2008, 01:48 PM
S60 w/ 3.73 and spool __________________
Spool in a street car yeah:) What about when you have to turn...LOL.
I figured you would be up there around 450rwhp with your new setup! I see some high 9's in your future for some reason
Also, looks like you went with the crinkle paint to match the elbow..the MAF doesn't even look like it there...nice setup!
Speed Inc.
10-27-2008, 02:31 PM
Spool in a street car yeah:) What about when you have to turn...LOL.
I figured you would be up there around 450rwhp with your new setup! I see some high 9's in your future for some reason
Also, looks like you went with the crinkle paint to match the elbow..the MAF doesn't even look like it there...nice setup!
turns just fine, nothing fast anyway with the skinnies
MAF is giving us issues, so i'm going back to a stock MAF which will not be as pretty..oh well
9's could be possible:whistle:
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 03:13 PM
was it an aftermarket MAf or just the housing?
Speed Inc.
10-27-2008, 03:19 PM
was it an aftermarket MAf or just the housing?
OEM Z06
They have a wider freq. range then a LT1 ECU can accomodate for. We could keep playing with it for hours, but there is little power if any in the MAF and would rather not have highly altered MAF tables.
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 03:26 PM
So I should just stick to stock with mine too then?
1FASTSS
10-27-2008, 03:28 PM
I think its funny that everytime we try a differernt MAF we are always going back to the stock one...
Speed Inc.
10-27-2008, 03:48 PM
stock has been working the best
I was looking around before and seen where Ed Wright had done a bunch of back to back test and seen just a couple HP difference on his own car.
1FASTSS
10-27-2008, 04:08 PM
stock has been working the best
I was looking around before and seen where Ed Wright had done a bunch of back to back test and seen just a couple HP difference on his own car.
Yeah, Ed knows his stuff. He raced back in the day with my dad and uncles and then moved over into EFI after that...
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 04:29 PM
I had Ed do some tuning for me a few years back, car ran like a champ for a mail order tune. I did have a Gran MAF at the time. Dont think we knew how crappy they were back then.(not many/any dynos at the time around the area) He didnt tell me to take it off and knew it was on the car.
1FASTSS
10-27-2008, 04:33 PM
I had Ed do some tuning for me a few years back, car ran like a champ for a mail order tune. I did have a Gran MAF at the time. Dont think we knew how crappy they were back then.(not many/any dynos at the time around the area) He didnt tell me to take it off and knew it was on the car.
Yeah, as Larry stated he doesn't mind them as much as others and can make a tune work well with them but it just isn't worth the $ or headache in the end....and I don't live in Tulsa anymore so I can't just run over for a tune...
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Thats the great thing about living 15 min from Speedinc. They will most likely do my build this winter and they will tune it multiple times im sure. Ive been doing buissness with them for a long time actually since there very first shop and always been pleased.
Its Pretty kick ass knowing theres a LS1/LT1 speed shop right here that knows what they are doing!!!
Chased
10-27-2008, 06:21 PM
Thats the great thing about living 15 min from Speedinc. They will most likely do my build this winter and they will tune it multiple times im sure. Ive been doing buissness with them for a long time actually since there very first shop and always been pleased.
Its Pretty kick ass knowing theres a LS1/LT1 speed shop right here that knows what they are doing!!!
Whats Speed Inc???
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 06:54 PM
The best LS1/LT1 speed shop I know of! www.speedinc.com (http://www.speedinc.com)
Thats where the op works.
LOL! your an ass!
jakesz28
10-27-2008, 07:07 PM
I will be sure to post results of the dyno and track when available.
maybe a start up video tomorrow if I can remember the camera
Byron is Nov 1st and I will not be making Cordova since I have plans that evening and would never be back in time
I may be meeting you there. I have to go up ther and beat on a LS car. I was looking forward to the Cordova rental but Byron will be fun if I can get the race locked in.
Chased
10-27-2008, 07:27 PM
The best LS1/LT1 speed shop I know of! www.speedinc.com (http://www.speedinc.com)
Thats where the op works.
They did shit work!!!
LOL! your an ass!
Larrys my brother FYI, LOL:peace2:
casper383
10-27-2008, 07:35 PM
Very nice sounds like its gonna be nasty! What class r u gonna be runnin in at the shootout?
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 08:07 PM
[quote=Chased;18668]Larrys my brother FYI, LOL:peace2:
I figured something like that after reading your sig!;)
Chased
10-27-2008, 08:53 PM
[quote=Chased;18668]Larrys my brother FYI, LOL:peace2:
I figured something like that after reading your sig!;)
He's a LT1 junkie I knew he'd be back some day:metal:
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 09:27 PM
They just kick ass!!! I went to an LS1 for awhile but just never loved it like an LT1. Do you work at the shop?
Chased
10-27-2008, 09:33 PM
They just kick ass!!! I went to an LS1 for awhile but just never loved it like an LT1. Do you work at the shop?
Work there no but, I lived there for some time, they have a nice suite with a hot tub! LOL Tom knows how to take care of his house guests:finger:
Speed Inc.
10-27-2008, 09:36 PM
I may be meeting you there. I have to go up ther and beat on a LS car. I was looking forward to the Cordova rental but Byron will be fun if I can get the race locked in.
that's what I hear..look forward to seeing this happen
Larrys my brother FYI, LOL:peace2:
from anotha mutha :)
Very nice sounds like its gonna be nasty! What class r u gonna be runnin in at the shootout?
not sure yet... I want to run extreme street but need a horn and wiper assembly
Chased
10-27-2008, 09:41 PM
from anotha mutha :)
So they say but hasnt been confimed yet
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 09:42 PM
What time are you guys planning on getting up to the track?
Speed Inc.
10-27-2008, 09:43 PM
What time are you guys planning on getting up to the track?
9:30ish
AChotrod
10-27-2008, 10:34 PM
I think, I just might have the 24hr flu and have to call out of work on Sat!!
Chased
10-27-2008, 10:44 PM
I think, I just might have the 24hr flu and have to call out of work on Sat!!
hangover:laugh:
1FASTSS
10-28-2008, 08:48 AM
from anotha mutha :)
So they say but hasnt been confimed yet
LOL...you two need to get a room or something:puke:
Speed Inc.
10-28-2008, 09:19 AM
LOL...you two need to get a room or something:puke:
what?
My family took this guy in from his days of the T/A with red stripes and 3 spoke tri fin wheels.
look where he is today
1FASTSS
10-28-2008, 09:23 AM
what?
My family took this guy in from his days of the T/A with red stripes and 3 spoke tri fin wheels.
look where he is today
I know...I was just kidding around...sorry if you took it the wrong way there.
Yeah, he's about 4 blocks from me
Chased
10-28-2008, 10:05 AM
look where he is today
BROKE
AChotrod
10-28-2008, 11:06 AM
So are the rest of us LOL!!!!
Speed Inc.
10-28-2008, 12:33 PM
BROKE
:doh:
join the modding club
Chris..I did not take it the wrong way, just having fun. sent the email for you stuff too.
Speed Inc.
10-28-2008, 12:36 PM
We seen as much as 449 yesterday with the Z06 MAF giving us issues, but it was leaner then we wanted to see. The stock MAF was used and looks like it is probably worth a few HP, but I don't even care. I am very happy with the results of this combo.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/dyno-3.jpg
old stock short with same heads and a 230/230 cam v's new build 396 w/ LE custom cam
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/svtspeed04/dyno2.jpg
Speed Inc.
10-28-2008, 12:37 PM
also open cutout was worth 1 HP, so it actually made 441 rwhp
1FASTSS
10-28-2008, 01:41 PM
:doh:
join the modding club.
Tell me about it...I now need a rearend/spray/roll bar/alt bracket/etc...Let's go rob a bank, there a few 1/2 way between our houses Chased!:secret:
Chris..I did not take it the wrong way, just having fun. sent the email for you stuff too.
Alright you got me then...:shame:
I'll check my mail
Chased
10-28-2008, 04:17 PM
I was waiting for you to hit your head on the video
AChotrod
10-28-2008, 05:50 PM
Numbers look great!!!:finger: Only 1hp with the cut out open?? 4" cat back must flow pretty good!
Speed Inc.
10-28-2008, 10:13 PM
yep..4" w/ Magnaflow is working well on keeping it on the mild side and flowing well.
AChotrod
10-28-2008, 10:32 PM
Sounds wicked with the cut out open though!;)
Speed Inc.
10-29-2008, 02:35 PM
Sounds wicked with the cut out open though!;)
YES IT DOES
Chased
10-29-2008, 08:56 PM
I was just talking about starting a new short block build the other day with my Dad...funny!
I think you'd be happy with the juice first:whistle:
1FASTSS
10-30-2008, 09:02 AM
I think you'd be happy with the juice first:whistle:
Me too! I find it all the old timers like my dad/uncles are scared of the juice! Big :face_shocked: there!
Speed Inc.
10-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Me too! I find it all the old timers like my dad/uncles are scared of the juice! Big :face_shocked: there!
so many fear the bottle
you coming out to Byron Sat?
AChotrod
10-30-2008, 10:13 PM
Ill be there! Took off work!
Speed Inc.
10-31-2008, 06:49 AM
cool
1FASTSS
10-31-2008, 08:31 AM
so many fear the bottle
you coming out to Byron Sat?
I'm going to try and make it up. Car has been sitting without a belt in the driveway while I redo the garage/floors. I do have one extra belt sitting around I am trying to get on and running.
If I don't good luck with the new setup and I'll be taking to you soon about making a plan for mine.
Speed Inc.
10-31-2008, 08:58 AM
O.K...COOL
Speed Inc.
11-02-2008, 12:56 PM
Track results
good day besides my Mallory Box going out and not allowing me to spray the car
first pass..foot brake to 2000
ET 11.01
MPH 121
60FT 1.48
second pass..foot brake to 2200
ET 11.00
MPH 121
60FT 1.46
now at this point I was super happy and just had to see a 10 second pass
third pass... foot brake to 2500 + open cutout .. 1HP increase
ET 10.97
MPH 121
60FT 1.45
The car was driven to and from the track with 0 issues.
I plan to go back out next weekend to spray the car and look for a 9 sec pass on 150 shot.
Chased
11-02-2008, 05:10 PM
Track results
good day besides my Mallory Box going out and not allowing me to spray the car
first pass..foot brake to 2000
ET 11.01
MPH 121
60FT 1.48
second pass..foot brake to 2200
ET 11.00
MPH 121
60FT 1.46
now at this point I was super happy and just had to see a 10 second pass
third pass... foot brake to 2500 + open cutout .. 1HP increase
ET 10.97
MPH 121
60FT 1.45
The car was driven to and from the track with 0 issues.
I plan to go back out next weekend to spray the car and look for a 9 sec pass on 150 shot.
HOw you feeln after throwing down last night killer:metal:
AChotrod
11-02-2008, 05:49 PM
Chased were you there yesterday?
Chased were you there yesterday?
His "mom" wont let him out of her sight. Chased.... When the hell are you coming home?
Chased
11-02-2008, 05:58 PM
No I wish!! WORK WORK WORK:doh:
Last night we had a halloween party....Larry let loose guess he was in a good mood after clipping off a couple 10 second NA passes;) As I would be
AChotrod
11-02-2008, 06:07 PM
LOL!! GOOD TIMES!!!!:cheers:
Speed Inc.
11-02-2008, 07:35 PM
No I wish!! WORK WORK WORK:doh:
Last night we had a halloween party....Larry let loose guess he was in a good mood after clipping off a couple 10 second NA passes;) As I would be
yes I did..I was still drunk this morning:|
Chased
11-02-2008, 07:48 PM
yes I did..I was still drunk this morning:|
I was making you some 114 octane drinks:devil: You asked for it how was the wifey:puke:
Speed Inc.
11-02-2008, 09:01 PM
I was making you some 114 octane drinks:devil: You asked for it how was the wifey:puke:
thanks :cool:
call ya tomorrow
Chased
11-02-2008, 09:23 PM
thanks :cool:
call ya tomorrow
Cool Bro!
1FASTSS
11-03-2008, 05:07 PM
Nice 10NA there buddy!
wish I could have made it up but had some other things come up.
I'm hope everyones recovered from Sat night!
Speed Inc.
11-03-2008, 05:30 PM
yep..you missed a nice day of racing.
Sunday is another day..you in?
1FASTSS
11-03-2008, 05:35 PM
yep..you missed a nice day of racing.
Sunday is another day..you in?
Next Sun your going? I will check with the boss and see what's up.
Chased
11-03-2008, 09:35 PM
Nice 10NA there buddy!
wish I could have made it up but had some other things come up.
I'm hope everyones recovered from Sat night!
I was still hangover this morning:frustrated: two day hangover I hate those
AChotrod
11-03-2008, 09:47 PM
LOL! I just drink some more and always feel better!
Chased
11-03-2008, 10:46 PM
been there done that:shame:
1FASTSS
11-04-2008, 09:45 AM
I was still hangover this morning:frustrated: two day hangover I hate those
You weren't kidding about mixin' up the kill shots then...:laugh:
Reminds me of the night after we did the trans swap...wife had me out til 5am. :puke:
James Montigny
02-10-2009, 10:32 AM
Did you ever make it to the track for N20 runs? Or did you run out of nice weather?
Speed Inc.
02-10-2009, 10:45 AM
ran out of weather
James Montigny
02-10-2009, 10:50 AM
ran out of weather
Take it down to Texas and make a pass then .. I wanna see what it does.
It's very inconsiderate of you to make us wait :shame::laugh::shiner::D
Looking forward to seeing it at the shootout man :metal:
Speed Inc.
02-10-2009, 11:09 AM
LOL
yeh...don't I wish I could travel and race.
early April starts our race season and all I need to do is get my front and rear brakes on to be 100% ready for race day
look forward to meeting you and others at the shootout.
Z-RATED94
02-10-2009, 09:14 PM
LOL
yeh...don't I wish I could travel and race.
early April starts our race season and all I need to do is get my front and rear brakes on to be 100% ready for race day
look forward to meeting you and others at the shootout.
Sounds to me like your spending more money again Larry. :)
Speed Inc.
02-10-2009, 09:29 PM
Sounds to me like your spending more money again Larry. :)
unfortunately:doh:
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