Bolt on List

[hempkat94z]

I am curious on what exactly what is considered a bolt on car? If someone could provide me a list that would be great. Thanks in advance!!!!

[96lt1m6]

CAI
HEDDERS
EXHAUST
THROTTLE BODY
ELEC. WATER PUMP
ROLLER ROCKERS
PULLIES
FAN SWITCH
160° THERMOSTAT
NGK TR55 OR TR6 PLUGS
PERFORMANCE PLUG WIRES
AFPR
TUNE
as far as i am concerned N2O IS A BOLT-ON!

[hempkat94z]

I have been told that a ported intake is also a bolt on

[96lt1m6]

I have been told that a ported intake is also a bolt on
hmmm sort of but it really does not give enough gain without having the heads done to match,it is too involved for the minimal gain!

[T/A KID]

I would most definatly say a ported intake would be a bolt-on considering how the LS boys put Fast intakes on there cars, not the mention the mustand and TPI crowd swapping intake manifolds.

Brandon in my opinion a ported intake would work great on a bolt-on car, HOWEVER it would only need to be a have way done ported intake. I would only work on the runners, open the TB to a 58mm or open it for a monoblade, work on the area right behind the TB (lots of material there) and anything you could touch inside the intake. As far as opening the ports that would be a bad idea with the stock heads making a slope or edge the air would basically hit making a turbulence. These intakes already lack airflow and Plenum volume, these two things would be increased by doing the above.

On our EFI motors unlike carb motors we can stick a large TB on and not worry about any negatives (beside throttle tip in and that would NOT be a problem even with a 1300cfm monoblade). IF you have the money throw a monoblade on, if not go to a 58mm.

Usually bolt-ons are considered anything that does not touch oil, but everyone myself included consider rocker arms a bolt-on. I had 1.7 rockers on my LT1 bolt-on car raising the lift to .510, .521 with the stock camsahft.
Weight reduction and bolt-ons will make a car flat out fly.
By the way Gears, and stall converters are considered bolt-ons in our world as well, lol.

[paul95z]

The rockers being a bolt on is a sensitive subject, you will find many people who think that rockers are not bolt on. Bolt on are usually anything you can put on the engine with out removing parts of the engine to get to it, i.e. valve covers to get to the rockers.

[KissMyWhtSS]

This subject is highly controversial.

IMO

Headers
ORY/High flow cat
Catback/True Duals
CAI
TB
Gears
Electric WP
1.6 RR
Tune
And a light diet (!spare tire, !air, !egr)
Stall/Clutch

I do not consider cars with non factory transmissions, gutted completely, non factory rear differentials, etc. to be bolt-on cars but most people do.

[Blubird]

i think as long as you dont touch the internals its a bolt on car

[bidicamaro]

I don't think a head swap is bolt on either... that's just me...

[AChotrod]

I would say pretty much anything external that does not have any modifacation done is a bolt on. CAI, exhaust,TBs, pulleys plug wires, EWp, Some igintion systems,gears etc.

I would not consider Ported intake, heads or aftermaket heads, cams, bolt ons eventhough they are bolted on. I also would not consider race prepped tranmissions a bolt on. Stall yes, but built trans no.

[hempkat94z]

Thanks everyone for responding! I agree that heads are not a bolt on by any means. I posted this thread to get everyones view on what was really a bolt on. I am about half way to being a full bolt on car. Thanks again

[Z28pr0jekt]

psh everyone forgot driveshaft/short shifter ;)

[chevy42083]

...and slicks :D

[bricez28]

wow i had more than i thought

[BLK95TA]

on a semi related note, i have had people on other boards (ls2.com specifically) give me shit for saying my car has mods when i include things like NGK iridium plugs, MSD wires and an MSD cap and rotor.. they say those don't count as mods since they replace existing parts... that doesnt make any sense to me, since adding a different cam replaces a stock cam or adding different heads... why wouldnt plugs/wires be considered mods? i know for a fact i don't fit into a "stock" class at the T/A nats and they dont even see my plugs/wires, they go by my appearance stuff...

i hate it when people who have a CAI, exhaust and a few other little things call their cars stock.

[KissMyWhtSS]

psh everyone forgot driveshaft/short shifter ;)when you get into that stuff it's more application.

That's like saying !TB Bypass, !MAF Screen, Elbow, Tire Size, Flywheel, etc.

[chevy42083]

I don't consider plug wires/cap/rotor/plugs mods... mainly cause they are wear parts. I mean, EVERYTHING wears, but those parts are maintenance parts. Just like fluids. But yeah, plenty of people list that stuff as mods too.

Than again, I'm the one that said slicks... and tires are DEFINITELY wear parts. I guess it's the amount of gain... I mean, waxing a car lower the coefficient of drag... but I'm not gonna list Zaino on my mods list :D

[KissMyWhtSS]

I don't consider plug wires/cap/rotor/plugs mods... mainly cause they are wear parts. I mean, EVERYTHING wears, but those parts are maintenance parts. Just like fluids. But yeah, plenty of people list that stuff as mods too.

Than again, I'm the one that said slicks... and tires are DEFINITELY wear parts. I guess it's the amount of gain... I mean, waxing a car lower the coefficient of drag... but I'm not gonna list Zaino on my mods list :DYou're right. Tires aren't a mod unless you change the size or type.

I suppose you could consider plugs a mod if you had to change them out for nitrous or something.

[hempkat94z]

I wouldn't consider tires a mod.

[crows93z]

pretty much anything that doesn't deal with heads or cam in my opinion. gears and stall are fair game in my opinion, as well as rear end. forced induction are outside the bolt on range, as well as N20...

[KissMyWhtSS]

pretty much anything that doesn't deal with heads or cam in my opinion. gears and stall are fair game in my opinion, as well as rear end. forced induction are outside the bolt on range, as well as N20...I agree until you have non factory transmission. I don't consider a LT1 with a 12 bolt and TH-400 a bolt-on car.

[chevy42083]

My LT1 bolted right into the truck :D

The radiator didn't, though. I have a bolt on truck with a modded radiator :D

[AChotrod]

I only think plugs, wires and tires count as mods if you replace them with a performance set rather than just replacement parts

[landstuhltaylor]

I really couldn't care less what the drivetrain itself is like. As long as the engine internals haven't been touched (including heads and all forms of FI obviously) then it is still a bolt-on car. A TH400 and a different rear is not going to gain you any time on a bolt-on car.

[KissMyWhtSS]

I really couldn't care less what the drivetrain itself is like. As long as the engine internals haven't been touched (including heads and all forms of FI obviously) then it is still a bolt-on car. A TH400 and a different rear is not going to gain you any time on a bolt-on car.
Well it's two different setups. You've got a full bolt-on street car that'll run low 13's vs a full bolt-on race car that'll run low 12's.

[AChotrod]

I really couldn't care less what the drivetrain itself is like. As long as the engine internals haven't been touched (including heads and all forms of FI obviously) then it is still a bolt-on car. A TH400 and a different rear is not going to gain you any time on a bolt-on car.
I wouldnt call a car with a rear and trans a "bolt on car" even if it does have a stock motor.

[BLK95TA]

I only think plugs, wires and tires count as mods if you replace them with a performance set rather than just replacement parts


so does that mean i shouldnt count my MSD wires, NGK plugs, and MSD cap and rotor as mods? granted they were all changed because of necessity but they aren't factory AC delco parts anymore.

truthfully with the exception of the ZR1 wheels and ram airbox/hood all the "mods" i have for my car were what i call maintanance mods, ie they were upgraded parts of something that needed replaced

[hempkat94z]

Using an improved TUNE UP parts is not a mod....I mean really how much hp will you get out of tr55 plugs and msd cap and rotor. Those are not mods. JMO

[Tyler Wheat]

IMO, anything on the car that is replaced with a more efficient part that's not factory = modification.

Plugs, wires, cap and rotor, etc. If its not an AC Delco part and its "better", its a mod. Reguardless of whether or not it is actually better, its not how the factory intended it.

[hempkat94z]

We agree to disagree

[BLK95TA]

IMO, anything on the car that is replaced with a more efficient part that's not factory = modification.

Plugs, wires, cap and rotor, etc. If its not an AC Delco part and its "better", its a mod. Reguardless of whether or not it is actually better, its not how the factory intended it.

thats what i'm thinking. it may not be a huge hp mod but its not stock parts either

[Camaro_94]

I don't consider a LT1 with a 12 bolt and TH-400 a bolt-on car.

I agree.

I dont think rockers should even be considered a bolt on either.

This is what I consider to be bolt-ons:
Headers
Catback/exhaust
ORY/Y-Pipe
cutout
Pulleys
160 degree thermostat
CAI
Throttle Body (can be ported)
intake (can be ported)
turbo/supercharger (kinda pushing it :|)
short shifter

Just my opinion..

- Mike

[chevy42083]

I am curious on what exactly what is considered a bolt on car? If someone could provide me a list that would be great. Thanks in advance!!!!

So, OP, is it clear now?:D

[96lt1m6]

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=990428&highlight=rules+bolt

[MeanGreen94Z]

GMHTP did the mod list and regulations. basically, it cant touch oil, witht eh exception of rockers. google it next time and youll see... ill try to find the list.

but let me tell yall, get your cars fast enough and start breaking rears left and right and then youll want to stay "bolt on" class, if you put a M9 M12 or any non production rear in it...then youll consider it still a bolt on car. the way i see it it anything other that rockers that touches is not a bolt on.

[BLK95TA]

GMHTP did the mod list and regulations. basically, it cant touch oil.


does that mean a car with an aftermarket dipstick is no longer a bolton car? :jest:

[96lt1m6]

:laugh: ^^^^DIPSTICK^^^^:taz:

[MeanGreen94Z]

does that mean a car with an aftermarket dipstick is no longer a bolton car? :jest::dots::ban:

lol

[BLK95TA]

:dots::ban:

lol

well, you did say "anything that touches oil" :tt2:

[Camaro_94]

does that mean a car with an aftermarket dipstick is no longer a bolton car? :jest:

LMAO!!!

- Mike

[Speed Kills]

Engine -

Anything but longblock/cam/nitrous/FI

Trans -

Anything that doesn't require removal of the transmission.

Also, a cap and rotor is hardly a "performance" part. I'd say maintenance, not mod. Now a pro-billet Opti, that's another story.....

[hempkat94z]

Engine -

Anything but longblock/cam/nitrous/FI

Trans -

Anything that doesn't require removal of the transmission.

Also, a cap and rotor is hardly a "performance" part. I'd say maintenance, not mod. Now a pro-billet Opti, that's another story.....
I agree.....:claps:

[MeanGreen94Z]

MSD opti? with all the reviews ive seen thats a DeMod lol

[3DFORMULA]

I really couldn't care less what the drivetrain itself is like. As long as the engine internals haven't been touched (including heads and all forms of FI obviously) then it is still a bolt-on car. A TH400 and a different rear is not going to gain you any time on a bolt-on car.

I agree here with most of what is said. However, when I bolted on my 12bolt, I could then launch @ 5500rpm with slicks and gained .75 in the 1/4 plus 4mph.

[Blubird]

there is nothing wrong with the msd opti except the price is kinda high but its worth it, the only thing wrong is the people who install it