PROJECT: "POPO" camaro

[popo8]

I have recently (April of 2014)been working on consoldating all of the major parts of the build threads foe my camaro. I never realized how many I had... this all started sooo long ago...

anyways... here is where it begins with the purhase of an on line engine from an on line "builder.." ERIC PARISH OF PARISH ENTERPRISES... the man took me for a ride... and i paid for it.

I dont ever expect anyone to read all.of this.. in fact...its much longer than I ever rememberd....


When I bought it (i think in 2003 or 2004..).. added some seat covers to protect the leather...and a bra... that was it.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/05/jy3u4yra.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/05/7yty7ege.jpg

Then.. I lowered it... and traded the chrome salad shooters to bluebottlez for gloss black salad shooters for that "popo" look...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/05/ape8u4y9.jpg


I enjoyed it for a while Then oil pressure started going low... she ran good..and I never hurt the motor... but...

well....



Feb 21st 2007, I Paypal's $5,250oo to the "owner" of a business called parish enterprises.

He/It were located out of IOWA (somewhere). I had located him on EBAY where he was selling built LT1 and LS1 motors built as packages or to order.

It was a deal I couldnt pass up!!! with great EBAY REVIEWS (what a joke) and lots of pictures, i trustingly sent the money as he sent me updates and pictures of the fully forged 383 LT1 stroker motor with "9-1" compression for my blower set up. He sent pics of the splayed mains, and the entire build process... (to bad they were pics of someone elses motor....

It came, and it ran, and it looked great, it even sounded great with some "secret squirrel" cam with one hell of a lope. As I stated in my introduction, it took between 2,000 and 3,000 miles of driving (only time it was abused was on the dyno because i was scared of grenating the T56) the crank gave. Fortunatly , it broke in a way that the crack allowed it to push against itself and get me home.

We towed the car to the shop, pulled the trans and realized there was a delay when you turned the balancer to when the rest of the crank began to move (had the oil pan off also)....

After removing the crank, I called Eagle and discovered that "383 CI" on the crank did not stand for 383 cubic inches, the CI stood for Cast.... yup, my forged crank that I purchased was cast, no wonder it couldnt hold up. Then I looked at the main caps, having taken for granted that splayed mains were there because thats what he sent pics, each one was only a TWO BOLT....

to make things worse, we pulled everything and everything was mismatched, and altho it was all balanced, the rods and pistons were cheap crap. Sent the block out , got it mag'd, got it another .10 over, and had a billet front cap and had all of the other mains splayed...

On to the heads. Advertisement said PORTED AND POLISHED HEADS AND INTAKE, WILL FLOW BETTER THAN LT4. well nothing was done.... NOTHING! hell all the valves had so much play Im suprised the car ran and even made power... I can go on and on, but I wont....

I attempted to contact the guy and even BS him that i had some heads to send him for doing such a good job, and nothing Anyways,his email was Lt1partsguy@yahoo.com and if ANYONE has any info on him or has had any dealings with him.... FIRST, STAY AWAY, SECOND.... get me contact information....

Thank You

[Z28pr0jekt]

This guy?

http://www.epecustomengines.com/info.html

edit: maybe not this is illinois not iowa

[popo8]

This guy?

http://www.epecustomengines.com/info.html

edit: maybe not this is illinois not iowa


HOLY $HIT!!!!! thats him!!!! how did you find that?

I sure hope its not you, and you didnt find this site because he got you also...

THANK YOU SO MUCH (although his number here is disconected also) I thought it was IOWA bul ILLONOIS may have been it, gona confirm with my PAYPAL records...

Hes mine!!!!!!!!, calling a friend from the District Attorneys Office NOW!

[popo8]

last nite, I used the site that was given to me in this thread and used an alternate email (one for the performance shop I work at part time) and acted as though I wanted to order a motor.

The owner ERIC PARISH replied that nite via email with a good number to call him at, (greed is an evil thing)

I called him today and had a nice discussion with ERIC regarding all of the items that were mis represented or not issued in my purchase. We had a nice discussion of the CRIMINAL/CIVIL sanctions which may be imposed, and I gave him 5days to come up with an agreed upon amicable solution before, charges are filed.

I will keep you all posted... If you are interested.???

[popo8]

Eric Parrish had requested a list of the parts which were misrepresented, because he claims the issue lies with his machine shop. He was advised that I purchased the motor from him and he is responsible for the fraud that was created there. I also advised him that if his machine shop was truly the ones who scammed him, he needs to follow criminal/civil sanctions himself. Here is the original build list, with comments by me regarding what was not included:

4 bolt main corvette block : 2 bolt main block.... NOT 4Bolt or Splayed

cleaned

bored .030 :Not freshly done for my build, all cylinders were out of round

align honed

square decked

cam bearings and freeze plugs installed

scat 4340 forged crankshaft :actually and EAGLE "383" "C.I." (cast) crank

scat pro series I beam rods - 2-ICR6000-7/16

srp forged pistons - 14cc inv. dome : not domed, not sure of brand

clevite 77 H-series rod and main bearings

Total seal rings

rotating assembly balanced within .1 gram

melling hv oil pump :stock LT1 oil pump

melling pick up screen :stock application

melling hardened oil pump driveshaft :stock application

fel pro gaskets

custom ground hyd. roller camshaft :Unsure of numbers on cam, never recieved cam-card

comp cams roller lifters :Unsure, but replaced

comp cams hardened pushrods : Unsure, but replaced

aluminum full roller rocker arms

chrome valve covers


clevite 77 hp cam bearings

pioneer brass freeze plugs

cloyes roller timing set

lt1 timing cover

lt1 oil pan

arp head studs - 12pt.

fully ported lt1 heads :ABSOLUTLY untouched STOCK LT1 heads

2.02/1.6 valves stainless steel valves :Poorly installed valves, replaced when heads were redone

isky .600 lift springs :all springs were of different pressure, improper use of springs.

combustion chambers polished will out perform lt4 heads. :Untouched stock LT1 heads

fully ported lt1 intake :COMPLETLY STOCK UNTOUCHED intake, other than paint.

[popo8]

Ok, so i emailed him from another email and acted as if I wanted to order a motor. He must have been anxious, and emailed me a phone number to call him to make the order.
I called him the following day.....and dropped the bomb of who I really was....

After discussing the criminal ramifications of having ripped me off for the $5250.00 I figured a $4000 restitution fee would be fair since I was able to reuse the block intake and heads, although nothing was left alone.....

FOLLOWING ME SO FAR??????

[Tarheel'Z']

i cant believe im saying this, but im rooting for the popo:hmm:


















j/k :D

[popo8]

Well here is where we are...

I believe this is the rear I am going to go with.... he will order it, and install the 4.10s in it. Although it is slightly used, here is what he says:

"Did you get the strange 12bolt information? I can get one in st. louis with abs sensor, eaton posi, 33 spline axles, aftermarket torque arm, lakewood trailing arms, and an edelbrock panhard rod. It has dyno time only. Let me know if you like this. I will have to remove the stock rearend from my 94 rolling shell and swap it and cash for this 12bolt. Im going to call the people from ebay and get some quotes. I dont have to work today but I have to help my sister move. I will give you a call later

He will also throw in a vortech (i think its an S-trim)

and some cluctch (still new in the box)... cant remember the brand name but I think it started with a Z....


Let me know what you guys think....FAIR? or NOT....

[Masoch]

Reading this thread has been most interesting.

Popo8, I salute you for still having a clear head and heart in what may seem like a hopeless profession. After reading this thread I am convinced your attitude is a splendid example for your colleagues and others to follow.

Good luck with this situation, sir.

[jakesz28]

I remember seeing that company listing a bunch of LT1 motors a couple years ago on ebay. I hope it works out for you.

[jakesz28]

This guy?

http://www.epecustomengines.com/info.html

edit: maybe not this is illinois not iowa



That website doesn't open for me. I wonder why?

[Z28pr0jekt]

That website doesn't open for me. I wonder why?
Ha scum bag must've taken it down now

[popo8]

That is the guy, ebay looked all professional with a bunch of nice looking motors and good prices. In relity , it was a 21 year old tech school dude trying to build LT1s....

As for the site not opening..... he cancelled it as part of my suggestion. He was advised that if he tried to operate a business again and I found it, there would be NO DEAL.

[Blubird]

you've been very patient thats all i can say, but youre right, youre damned if you do and you might be damned if you dont

[Badhawk]

This dude needs to be arrested.


Good luck PoPo with whatever you decide.

[Fastbird]

Wow dude.....you've been MUCH more patient than I.

[Badhawk]

I can't believe we are all rooting for the popo. :laugh::laugh:

[popo8]

I can't believe we are all rooting for the popo. :laugh::laugh:


Thank you.... i think.... somehow this comment makes me feel like the evil guy in the old movies with the black hat and the mustache tieing the girl to the railroad trax.....:cry:

[Badhawk]

Thank you.... i think.... somehow this comment makes me feel like the evil guy in the old movies with the black hat and the mustache tieing the girl to the railroad trax.....:cry:

I just think when your younger your always looking over your shoulder for the popo but as you get older you start to appreciate them a little more.

[tbird31]

Popo. You are a better man then I. I would've taken the blower and dashpad and gotten him arrested. If you can't do both, he would've been behind bars with a few broken bones. You've been lenient enough. Who's to say he isn't doing this to other people as well? What do you think he did with your $$$? Went out and had a grand ole time...

take your own advice..."Karma's a bitch!"

[Pacific_L36]

This is nuts, you've got 150x's the patience I do. I would never in my right mind accept payments. He's proven to be unreliable and untrustworthy multiple times, I think you need to draw a permanent line somewhere and not cross it for the world. If he falls through, throw the law on him.

[Badhawk]

popo sorry to hear your not going to receive any of your money back from this pos but, I think everyone on here including yourself just didn't believe it was going to happen. You have been a patient man now go lock his ass up !

[Wooshie]

I really want to see how this ends now.

[popo8]

Just spoke with Officer Williams at the Stauton PD.... As soon as I tod him the name, the Officer said, "LET ME GUESS, YOU GOT A CAMARO...." He is very familial with Mr Parish.... Subject from TEXAS filed against him for not even delivering a motor that was paid for...and another complaint of a guy who sent him his car for a motor and instal and Parish was seen cruising around in the car....

[popo8]

Quoting Pennsylvania Statutes Chapter 39 § 3922. Theft by deception. (a) Offense defined.--A person is guilty of theft if he intentionally obtains or withholds property of another by deception. A person deceives if he intentionally:

1. creates or reinforces a false impression, including false impressions as to law, value, intention or other state of mind; but deception as to a person's intention to perform a promise shall not be inferred from the fact alone that he did not subsequently perform the promise;

2. prevents another from acquiring information which would affect his judgment of a transaction; or

3. fails to correct a false impression which the deceiver previously created or reinforced, or which the deceiver knows to be influencing another to whom he stands in a fiduciary or confidential relationship.

(b) Exception.--The term "deceive" does not, however, include falsity as to matters having no pecuniary significance, or puffing by statements unlikely to deceive ordinary persons in the group addressed.

Penalties are outlined in a separate statute, and depend upon the facts of the offense:

Quoting Pennsylvania Statutes Chapter 39 § 3903. Grading of theft offenses. (a) Felony of the second degree.--Theft constitutes a felony of the second degree if:

1. The offense is committed during a manmade disaster, a natural disaster or a war-caused disaster and constitutes a violation of section 3921 (relating to theft by unlawful taking or disposition), 3925 (relating to receiving stolen property), 3928 (relating to unauthorized use of automobiles and other vehicles) or 3929 (relating to retail theft).

2. The property stolen is a firearm.

3. In the case of theft by receiving stolen property, the property received, retained or disposed of is a firearm and the receiver is in the business of buying or selling stolen property.

(a.1) Felony of the third degree.--Except as provided in subsection (a), theft constitutes a felony of the third degree if the amount involved exceeds $2,000, or if the property stolen is an automobile, airplane, motorcycle, motorboat or other motor-propelled vehicle, or in the case of theft by receiving stolen property, if the receiver is in the business of buying or selling stolen property.

(b) Other grades.--Theft not within subsection (a) or (a.1) of this section, constitutes a misdemeanor of the first degree, except that if the property was not taken from the person or by threat, or in breach of fiduciary obligation, and:

1. the amount involved was $50 or more but less than $200 the offense constitutes a misdemeanor of the second degree; or
2. the amount involved was less than $50 the offense constitutes a misdemeanor of the third degree.

(c) Valuation.--The amount involved in a theft shall be ascertained as follows:

1. Except as otherwise specified in this section, value means the market value of the property at the time and place of the crime, or if such cannot be satisfactorily ascertained, the cost of replacement of the property within a reasonable time after the crime.

2. Whether or not they have been issued or delivered, certain written instruments, not including those having a readily ascertainable market value such as some public and corporate bonds and securities, shall be evaluated as follows:

i. The value of an instrument constituting an evidence of debt, such as a check, draft or promissory note, shall be deemed the amount due or collectible thereon or thereby, such figure ordinarily being the face amount of the indebtedness less any portion thereof which has been satisfied.

ii. The value of any other instrument which creates, releases, discharges or otherwise affects any valuable legal right, privilege or obligation shall be deemed the greatest amount of economic loss which the owner of the instrument might reasonably suffer by virtue of the loss of the instrument.

3. When the value of property cannot be satisfactorily ascertained pursuant to the standards set forth in paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection its value shall be deemed to be an amount less than $50. Amounts involved in thefts committed pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct, whether from the same person or several persons, may be aggregated in determining the grade of the offense.

(d) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

"Manmade disaster." - Any industrial, nuclear or transportation accident, explosion, conflagration, power failure, natural resource shortage or other condition, except enemy action, resulting from manmade causes, such as oil spills and other injurious environmental contamination, which threatens or causes substantial damage to property, human suffering, hardship or loss of life.

"Natural disaster." - Any hurricane, tornado, storm, flood, high water, wind-driven water, tidal wave, earthquake, landslide, mudslide, snowstorm, drought, fire, explosion or other catastrophe which results in substantial damage to property, hardship, suffering or possible loss of life.

"War-caused disaster." - Any condition following an attack upon the United States resulting in substantial damage to property or injury to persons in the United States caused by use of bombs, missiles, shellfire, nuclear, radiological, chemical or biological means, or other weapons or overt paramilitary actions, or other conditions such as sabotage.

[PipesTA]

Sent you a PM Popo...

[popo8]

Sent you a PM Popo...


Thankyou man... Im filling it out now.

[popo8]

Here is what I posted in the narrative.

Feb 21st 2007, I Paypaled $5,250oo to the "owner" of a business called parish enterprises.
He/It were located out of IL (somewhere). I had located him on EBAY where he was selling built LT1 and LS1 motors built as packages or to order.
It was a deal I couldnt pass up!!! with great EBAY REVIEWS (what a joke) and lots of pictures, i trustingly sent the money as he sent me updates and pictures of the fully forged 383 LT1 stroker motor with "9-1" compression for my blower set up. He sent pics of the splayed mains, and the entire build process... (to bad they were pics of someone elses motor....
It came, and it ran, and it looked great, it even sounded great with some "secret squirrel" cam with one hell of a lope. As I stated in my introduction, it took between 2,000 and 3,000 miles of driving (only time it was abused was on the dyno because i was scared of hurting the transmission) the crank gave. Fortunatly , it broke in a way that the crack allowed it to push against itself and get me home.
We towed the car to the shop, pulled the trans and realized there was a delay when you turned the balancer to when the rest of the crank began to move (had the oil pan off also)....The crank was broken in 2 pieces.
After removing the crank, I called Eagle and discovered that "383 CI" on the crank did not stand for 383 cubic inches, the CI stood for Cast.... yup, my forged crank that I purchased was cast, no wonder it couldnt hold up. Then I looked at the main caps, having taken for granted that splayed mains were there because thats what he sent pics, each one was only a TWO BOLT....
to make things worse, we pulled everything and everything was mismatched, and altho it was all balanced, the rods and pistons were cheap crap. Sent the block out , got it mag'd, got it another .10 over, and had a billet front cap and had all of the other mains splayed...
On to the heads. Advertisement said PORTED AND POLISHED HEADS AND INTAKE, WILL FLOW BETTER THAN LT4. well nothing was done.... NOTHING! hell all the valves had so much play Im suprised the car ran and even made power... I can go on and on, but I wont....
I attempted to contact the guy and even BS him that i had some heads to send him for doing such a good job, and nothing Anyways,his email was Lt1partsguy@yahoo.com and he never responded.
THen I joined a site called LTX tech, for enthusiasts of the LT based GM motor. I wrote about my issue and one member actually located MR PARISH and his new bussiness name..(http://www.epecustomengines.com/info.html)
On 7.14.2009 after being given the new info for Mr Parish, I used the site that was given to me in this thread and used an alternate email (one for the performance shop I work at part time) and acted as though I wanted to order a motor.
The owner ERIC PARISH replied that nite via email with a good number to call him at, (greed is an evil thing)
I called him today and had a nice discussion with ERIC regarding all of the items that were mis represented or not issued in my purchase. We had a nice discussion of the CRIMINAL/CIVIL sanctions which may be imposed, and I gave him 5days to come up with an agreed upon amicable solution before, charges are filed.
Needless to say, that was 2 years after I sent him the money for the motor, here is a copy of the PAYPAL:
Money Request Details

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Request Received

From:
Parish Enterprises(lt1partsguy@yahoo.com)
To:
Lawrence Hanna (popo8@comcast.net)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Amount:
$5,250.00 USD
Status:
Paid
Date Requested:
Feb 21, 2007
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Subject:
LT1 383 STROKER ENGINE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Note:
FORGED LT1 383 STROKER.


Needless to say, until the motor was built, shipped and installed in my vehicle, then tuned so that I could drive it , a year had passed... then by the time it broke another 6-8 months had passed, and by the time we tore the motor down to discover all of the items that were mis-advertised, and how badly I was lied to there was no sign of ERIC PARISH until I started this thread...
http://ltxtech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6807
And that is how I got in touch with MR Parish once again. I am a Police Officer for the past 8 years and I tried my best to work with Mr Parish regarding making restitution. I even advised him I was only loking for 4,000 of the 5,250 sent because I was able to reuse what I feel was approximatly 1,250 of the motor, although having the motor redone cost me well over another $3000.00 For the past 3 months we went back and forth in email, and he has stalled with one excuse after another. If you check out that site, I logged almost every step of MR Parishs and my conversations. I have also saved almost ALL of the emails between Mr Parish and Myself where he advises that he is aware that he owes me... I look to you for help in this situation.
The list below is a build sheet Mr Parish promised me that my motor would be. Behind some of the items are my comments where it fell short...
4 bolt main corvette block : 2 bolt main block.... NOT 4Bolt or Splayed
cleaned
bored .030 :Not freshly done for my build, all cylinders were out of round
align honed
square decked
cam bearings and freeze plugs installed
scat 4340 forged crankshaft :actually and EAGLE "383" "C.I." (cast) crank
scat pro series I beam rods - 2-ICR6000-7/16
srp forged pistons - 14cc inv. dome : not domed, not sure of brand
clevite 77 H-series rod and main bearings
Total seal rings
rotating assembly balanced within .1 gram
melling hv oil pump :stock LT1 oil pump
melling pick up screen :stock application
melling hardened oil pump driveshaft :stock application
fel pro gaskets
custom ground hyd. roller camshaft :Unsure of numbers on cam, never recieved cam-card
comp cams roller lifters :Unsure, but replaced
comp cams hardened pushrods : Unsure, but replaced
aluminum full roller rocker arms
chrome valve covers

clevite 77 hp cam bearings
pioneer brass freeze plugs
cloyes roller timing set
lt1 timing cover
lt1 oil pan
arp head studs - 12pt.
fully ported lt1 heads :ABSOLUTLY untouched STOCK LT1 heads
2.02/1.6 valves stainless steel valves :Poorly installed valves, replaced when heads were redone
isky .600 lift springs :all springs were of different pressure, improper use of springs.
combustion chambers polished will out perform lt4 heads. :Untouched stock LT1 heads
fully ported lt1 intake :COMPLETLY STOCK UNTOUCHED intake, other than paint.
__________________

Thank You
Officer Lawrence A. Hanna

[popo8]

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[popo8]

Im sooooooooo glad I saved every email, and every word this POS said....

Everything from my initial trick to get a hold of him, to him admitting he used inferior parts, to the multiple offers he made to make restitution....

In case anyone was wondering, this is what over 100 emails look like....

[5POINT7]

^^^:face_shocked: I bet he doesnt even have one paper saved.

[5POINT7]

look at all those trees you killed

:laugh: im sure popo will recycle. lol

[Chris]

look at all those trees you killed


In the name of justice! :metal:

[popo8]

Damn, wish I could of been this lucky when I bought my heads/cam/intake from a guy on camaroz28.com.... Took my car to a good shop afterwards for tuning and the motor blew (my own fault) but regardless they found the heads were cheaply ported and the cam was not all that good either. Claimed to be an LE2 kit, but the guy clearly did the job in his basement or something. Oh well, I got a decent 383/tranny build out of it... heads are holding it back though.


u think I was lucky....?

[TechF1end]

wow 45 mins later and 31 pages read lol you do have some patience popo

[popo8]

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Your complaint has been submitted. Once processed by the IC3, you will be sent an email containing your complaint id and password to be used for future contacts with the IC3. This process can take several hours.


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So a while back someone suggested that I file a complaint with the above.... so I did, and I copied and pasted the info above..... I figured it was just one of those (get lost in the shuffle) kinnda complaints. Till I got a call from the District Attorneys Office today telling me that they finally made it to my case which had been reported to them from the above mentioned.

SO Im kinda stoked again, this ADA that I was speaking to seemed pretty pissed about Parrish, and said he would work on handling this. He told me, "I cant get blood from a stone, but I can help make this guy pay for dicking you over".


HAHA, the ball rolls... it rolls slowly, but it rolls.....

[Z28pr0jekt]

Awesome.. goodluck!

[vetwnab]

That sucks Popo. Now I understand why there were all of the Staunton Il comments when I first signed up. I live about 30 minutes from there if you ever need anything. My babysitters husband is a Staunton police officer as well. If you need any info or anything, just let me know. I hope that you can get some of your money back or put this guy in the pokey for a while.

[popo8]

Ok, so I am posting this under TUNING because its part of it... its also part frustration (mods if you wanna move it, please do).


So as some of you know, I have recently been struggling with my car, I shouldnt even say recently... because this has been an on going issue....

Here is the paperback version...
-previous issues believed to be that I was maxing out MAF, and having issues in upper RPMs
-sent PCM to MOEHORSEPOWER, he went over everything, and saved me from blowing my car up.
-he set up a conservative mail tune, and all I needed to do was basically lean the car out on the dyno.
-Struggled with weeks of communication issues between car and tuning computer
-Finally resolved communication issue, and got on the dyno this past sunday.
-several pulls and reflashes of the computer, we kept pulling fuel, and were moving in the right direction....
-as the numbers were getting good again..... bang, FRIED the PCM.
-car stayed on the dyno.
-MOE, GREG ROB, CORY, etc convinced me to go OBD1
-ordered obd1 computer, and obd1 knock sensor, and also an obd 2 PCM.
-OBD 1 stuff will come later, for now, just wanted to get it running with the QUICKNESS.
-Today, installed new obd2 PCM, several more pulls, and still moving in the right direction....but there is a misfire at 5100rpm
-Tuner asks me what OPTI im running, I tell him, MSD BILLET OPTI ($600) He tells me JUNK!
-he wants me to replace it with an OEM replacement from GM. "no jap crap", he say.
-I am not opposed to swapping it out, here is what I need help with, and I know there have been alot of threads regarding this, but I want to post a poll AGAIN please, hoping that as time goes on , people have more experience.....

THe pole will have three choices, remember this is a boosted 385ci application....
-SEND MY MSD back and have it rebuilt
-GM replacement OPTI
-DYNASPARK

THose are the three dirrections I am looking at.






PS- this winter, MOE will get my OBD1 PCM after I have GM flash it with my vin, and he can do his majic, when it returns, I will complete the swap to OBD 1

[Tarheel'Z']

all i will say is i have no experience with msd or dynaspark except what ive read from you guys,,i dont recall ever hearing anything bad about the ac-delcos,i chose ac-delco in 2004 when my stocker went out,i have 20k on it since,take it as you want,,good luck man,im sure someone will give you a good direction to go in

[BlackWidowSS]

ACDelco all the way with an MSD Cap/Rotor Kit. I have had that for almost 2 years now with no issues!

Also, we didnt have to flash my VIN into the OBD1 PCM...they arent the same as OBD2 tuning wise...I just plugged in the OBD1, swapped the LT1 Knock Sensor, and Loaded my tune that I had saved on my Laptop...then we tweaked the tune and its been there ever since. You dont need a VIN to tune OBD1 like you do with OBD2

[Fastbird]

From everything I've ever seen, dynaspark would top the list. but you simply can't go wrong with an AC Delco. However, why not try Chandler. For $110 you could save some serious scratch, and they're proving to be somewhat reliable.

[popo8]

From everything I've ever seen, dynaspark would top the list. but you simply can't go wrong with an AC Delco. However, why not try Chandler. For $110 you could save some serious scratch, and they're proving to be somewhat reliable.


what do you mean by somewhat?

And honestly, I think with my list of reciepts, Im not about saving money on this build. In fact thats why I got the MSD BILLET, I figured its 3 times the cost, it must be better...........(Im an idiot)

[popo8]

ACDelco all the way with an MSD Cap/Rotor Kit. I have had that for almost 2 years now with no issues!

Also, we didnt have to flash my VIN into the OBD1 PCM...they arent the same as OBD2 tuning wise...I just plugged in the OBD1, swapped the LT1 Knock Sensor, and Loaded my tune that I had saved on my Laptop...then we tweaked the tune and its been there ever since. You dont need a VIN to tune OBD1 like you do with OBD2


Oh, well I didnt need to put the vin in the OBD 2 computer I got today either, my concen is, If ever plugged in, I want the computer to match the car, whether for emissions, or for future sales, etc.... that was all.

[1badz]

I am running a reman with an msd cap and rotor on the camaro (track/project car). I ordered a Chandler Motorsports opti for a formula I picked up a couple weeks ago. Prior to the reman, it was an AC Delco with about 160,000 miles (cap and rotor shit out, opti was still good I believe but I replaced it anyway). I will let you know how the Chandler opti does in the next week or so. I haven read some good reviews on it. If you can afford it though, go Dynaspark (just parroting off of what I have heard - that's the next opti im going with for the camaro if I ever need one).

[Badhawk]

Larry, I spin my motor to 6800,6900 and have always had good luck with the GM stuff.





Jeff

[BLK95-Z]

When I pulled my motor the stock 110k mile opti was still working perfect. It had a MSD cap and wires though.

Honestly I was going to buy an MSD opti for the same reasons you got yours but now I might stay with the GM

[razor02097]

I have heard good things about Dynaspark. People steer away because of price not product. I have read information about it and they seem to address the opti's weak points that can't be fixed with a retrofit such as the rotor durability, bearings, seals and the EMI from the rotor being on top of the optical sensor.

When I will need an opti (lol... when) I'm going with dynaspark.

[razor02097]

Do you have any of the info on the Dynasparks that show that they addressed opti weak points.... THAT is what I am looking for, and cannot fine any more than opinions...... MSD looks pretty but also I can not find that anything is truley superior to an oem piece....

Their website lists the way they address the pit falls of the opti design...

http://www.dynaspark.net/advantage/



Bearing
The bearing on an OEM Optispark rests against the housing with no lateral support. The bearing is held in place by a high carbon steel retention plate that is fastened on opposing sides which only provides 40% bearing retention.
The Dynaspark is fitted with a press fit location for our sealed ball bearing which is rated to 13,000 RPM. The bearing is held in place by a 360 degree proprietary retention ring.
Rotor

The OEM rotor is designed with cost in mind rather than performance. The rotor contact is held in place by plastic rivets which tend to fail if brought above 6000 RPM. When the plastic rivets let loose, the rotor is no longer balanced and will tear itself apart inside the distributor likely ruining other components in the process.
The Dynaspark rotor is equipped with aluminum rivets to hold the rotor contact in place and balanced to 6800 RPM.
Seals & Venting

The most common issue found with the OEM unit is that the seals are insufficient. This causes venting to be drawn from portions of the distributor that do not allow for peak performance. Venting has three major benefits: Clearing moisture, clearing corrosive gasses created by inherent spark, and cooling the optical trigger. The defective seals on the distributor allow for the moisture and corrosive gasses to dissipate, however, the vacuum draws venting from improper sources which causes a stagnant air around the optical sensor keeping it from being properly cooled.
The Dynaspark is triple sealed allowing for the vacuum system to perform its intended function. The housing and insulator ring are designed for the primary and secondary venting, or what we like to call \\\\"cross venting.\\\\" The primary venting cools the optical sensor, the secondary venting clears moisture and corrosive gases.
Wiring Harness

The OEM wiring harness location plays a major part in the design flaw. The harness is located on the top of the distributor where dirt and moisture collect. This is essentially a pathway for dirt and moisture leading directly to the optical trigger. The optical trigger cannot be salvaged after it has been compromised with a foreign substance.
We took great care in ensuring that our wiring harness is sealed. We designed an integral wiring harness that is virtually impenetrable. Our distributor will remain dry inside and perform its intended function while fully submerged underwater as long as the vacuum harnesses are kept above water.
EMI Shield

EMI (Electro Magnetic Interference) is a naturally occurring phenomenon when the electromagnetic field of one device disrupts or degrades the electromagnetic field of another device by being in close proximity with each other. In the case of the Opti-spark it would be the rotor and optical trigger. EMI is overcome by separating two electrical components with a conductive barrier which is in turn grounded out to a source. The OEM Optispark is equipped with an EMI Shield which is essentially a stamped sheet of tin placed between the optical trigger and rotor. Tin is a ferrous metal, meaning it contains iron. Iron attracts moisture, which in turn oxidizes the tin creating rust inside the distributor. This is a huge issue with the design of the Optispark and is one of the main reasons for distributor failure on most LTX motors.
We have put countless hours of R&D and beta testing into developing a working EMI shielding system for the distributor that is far superior to any other design. We have chosen to keep this portion of our design a secret due to the complexity of the issue and the process involved in development. Each Dynaspark is secured with proprietary fasteners not only to keep our secrets safe but also to guarantee our work.

[Z28pr0jekt]

I have literally heard zero complaints with the dynaspark. That being said, I've only seen a handful of people run them.

[QC97Z]

I thought I wouldn't be the first to say this...but I am....EFI CONNECTION FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's something wrong with your poll...EFI Connection isn't on there! LOL

Seriously though PoPo, an AC Delco unit would probably do you well. And ditch that MAF and go with SD on OBDII.

[Formula383]

Dynaspark here. Zero issues in almost 2 years. I've been shifting anywhere between 6,500 and 7,000 with it.

Here's what I have heard through the grape vine: Dynaspark was recently bought by another company and they are having some quality issues. I don't have any concrete facts that prove this though. Like I said above...I have pounded on my car since I installed it and have had no issues.

[Tony Shepherd]

Dynaspark

[GreenZ96]

Ive got 2 oem opti's, one with 177,xxx and the other with 233,xxx that are still in good working order. Neither have been touched besides removal. So, I say go with a OEM unit

[popo8]

what happened to your MSD opti?
second who installed it?

I have had mine on there for about 3 or 4 years, and its my daily driver, and I have had ZERO issues, I initially had some stumbling, BUT it was because I installed the oring incorrectly and it caused cap clearance issues., I pulled it off and talked to MSD tech guys and they cleared it up for me, since then, no problems at all

Im just curious why these things got such a bad wrap, I always see people posting about them, yet when you ask them, they never owned one, what gives?


we istalled it twice,,, first on the parish motor, then the new one after it was ready t go in. It is installed correct and it has worked great... however it has developed a high rpm stumble....

[QC97Z]

^^Don't even have to complain anymore. They send them with every new opti now. It's a square cross-sectional seal instead of an O-ring.

[5POINT7]

I'd go with Dynaspark if you have the cash.

[popo8]

Well, here is what I think I will do.

When the car goes down for the winter, she will get the opti pulled and I will send the MSD back to MSD.....

I will wait to see what their response is, and see if whatever they tell me is wrong is possible to have been my issue.

At that point, I will make the decision to roll the dice on it again, however if it gets replaced I will sell the Rebuild MSD on here for a cheap price if anyone is interested and install a Dynaspark....

Sound like a plan?

[BLK95-Z]

That sounds like a good plan.

Since you have easy access to a shop and a lift, maybe throw a stock one on there and try. I know its not a real quick easy job but if you had time it might be worth a try.

EDIT: Ive never worked on a boosted LT1 car so the job may be a huge pita. Just a suggestion.

[popo8]

That sounds like a good plan.

Since you have easy access to a shop and a lift, maybe throw a stock one on there and try. I know its not a real quick easy job but if you had time it might be worth a try.

EDIT: Ive never worked on a boosted LT1 car so the job may be a huge pita. Just a suggestion.


Other than dropping the intercooler (3 bolts and two hoses) its no different than a normal opti job... Not a bad idea......

[Flyinz]

Well, here is what I think I will do.

When the car goes down for the winter, she will get the opti pulled and I will send the MSD back to MSD.....

I will wait to see what their response is, and see if whatever they tell me is wrong is possible to have been my issue.

At that point, I will make the decision to roll the dice on it again, however if it gets replaced I will sell the Rebuild MSD on here for a cheap price if anyone is interested and install a Dynaspark....

Sound like a plan?
Thats what I would do. I used a brand new MSD opti, didn' have 10 miles on it, and the optical sensor went out. So, I threw a GM unit on there, and has performed flawless since. Never had any experience with Dynaspark.

[rsdoherty88]

I would go the GM unit. I wouldn't pay $300 more for the dynaspark, when there's not enough proof that they work well. I have a delphi that I ordered from partladi and it's been working great. the original was still working great too, but my water pump had been leaking, so I decided to replace it when I rebuilt my motor just in case it started to crap out later on.

[popo8]

Well, I dont mind spending the extra money and giving it a shot, and Moe seems to be confident with the Dynaspark.

I believe in the next few weeks the OBD II stuff will be out, and I will send the OBD I computer to moe to set up.... get the carrunnig again, get the new opti in it, then I think come spring, i will flip to have moe flown up here to tune my car. Im getting tired of it NEVER being 100%.....

[05hd]

You said it started missing while tuning? Did you put it back to the last known non-misfiring tune and see if it still misses? Pull plugs and have a look to see if one got roasted?

[popo8]

You said it started missing while tuning? Did you put it back to the last known non-misfiring tune and see if it still misses? Pull plugs and have a look to see if one got roasted?


At this point I honestly cant remember a time it did not misfire at the 5000 ish mark..... I give up on it... its getting sent back to MSD for a rebuild then GIVEN to a friend in trade for some help I need with the vette....

THe camaro will get a dynaspark opti and converted to OBD I, and MOE will get the computer to do a base tune again... then I may fly him up here for hands on tuning....

[popo8]

04/03/2014


I have gone through many of my individual build threads, and trials and failures, and have begun consolidating them into one place for the build that is now my Camaro.

Its long... and may get longer.









Ok, so this is where I am at.... I am going to get the DYNASPARK opti for the Camaro.... Ive used the search feature on here, as well as some google searching.....


Now... its just as expensive as the MSD opti I have on my car now.... now, I am willing to spend the money but if it can be found cheaper, I would prefer that.....

Here is what I found, and I am wondering if anyone knows of any cheaper shopping I can locate.... Please help if you have any input...


http://www.dynaspark.net/products/

[RamAir95TA]

im tryin to track down a delteq system and forget about the opti

You still need a functioning opti for the Delteq/LTCC setup...

[Blubird]

What's an opti?

[chevymec]

I bought a used one from a board member on here and it hasnt missed a lick since I installed it.

[96LT1355Z28]

I know the Dynaspark is $ but it's worth it considering they have a lifetime warranty. My car was cutting out and I sent it back to them to be checked out. They found the issue was because of something I did but still only charged $80 to replace the sensor and wiring. I ended up having another issue (broken timing chain) later on and initally thought it was a bad opti because it would crank but not start with no spark. They checked it over said all was good and shipped back for no charge. Only a few day turnaround and very polite on the phone if you ever have an issue +1 for Dynaspark! If you give them a call or an email they will sometimes have returned ones that are cheaper but still carry a full warranty.

[BIGT94z]

sounds like some killer customer service! go for it popo

[ItSSlowZ28]

i remember hearing that from dynaspart directly is the only way to get it. i've heard nothing but good reviews about it, i just have a love/hate thing with the opti in general

[popo8]

Now this impressed me!!!!! I wrote an email to DYNASPARK and received a very convincing email in response...

FIRST: My email.

Hello,

My name is Larry and I am a proud member of the LTX community. I currently own a 1996 M6 Camaro. The car is 385ci stroker with a procharger/intercooler set up. Currently I am running the MSD billet Opti, and the entire MSD set up....6al, and blaster coil.

Now.... I had heard good and bad, and I originally figured, MSD is a reputable name, and for 500+ dollars how can it be junk... well after two motors, and thousands in tunning I have been chasing a 5,100 rpm misfire that has made tuning HELL....

My new tuner (MOE BAILEY) has insisted with me multiple times to convert my OBDII car to OBDI and to replace the MSD opti with your unit...... SO here we are.... I have all that I need to convert it to OBDI and now I need one of your Optis....

I know you make money by making sales, and Im hoping that me coming to you with the hell that this has been on me will keep you open and honest with me..... HONESTLY, is your unit superior to the MSD Billet unit....? I am sure that my problems with the misfire is not air, and it is def not fuel , with dual pumps and 60# injectors.....

Well I look forward to speaking with you and being reassured that your unit may be superior.... Please let me know and get back to me ASAP.... thank you for your time...



Larry Hanna



PS- my camaro is meant to be a fast Daily Driver... I keep the 6,000 RPM chip in the MSD 6al (which I intend to keep) and it will prob never be raced, and if it is, it will only be to get a time to talk about. The procharger has shown up to 8 lbs of boost, hoping for a few more lbs in that last missing 1000 rpms......

[popo8]

NOW THAT YOU HAVE READ THAT....... you did read it right??????

[popo8]

DYNASPARK's response:

Larry,
If our unit wasn't better we wouldn't be here :) I tell you what I am so sure of our product I will ship you one to try and if your not happy just send it back. If you like then I will charge the your credit card.

Thanks Bob

[MoeHorsePower]

Now thats what I'm talking about. A little info on my experience with Dynaspark, My car was LT 383 Supercharged, made 648 RWHP, the engine use to spool up so fast that the GM Optis kept failing, rotor shot out thru the side of the cap, I went thru a few of these then I heard of Dynaspark, Purchased one and never looked back, I am now going Turbo, everything brand new so I decided to send the Dynaspark back for a freshing up. They sent me a brand new one for $100.00. I cant complain about that..

[ItSSlowZ28]

wow, now thats service. love the proposal

[popo8]

Im sooooo excited, and honestly MOES opinion was enough for me.... We have several cars to get ready for Ocean City this May, so we decided to dedicate one month to each....

BLUE BOTTLE Z's 88 iroc gets January.... My camaro gets Feb.... BLUE BOTTLE Z's TA gets March, and I think we are gonna try to stick LEADFOOT's TA in there somewhere.... then my vette gets some attention.... We should all be ready for OCMD, and for sure ready for KY!!!!

[spikester7878]

i also just ordered one of these i guess my brand new 383 said:fuck-8: to the old opti

[harner]

I'll have to meet up with you at OCMD this year, Larry instead of just watching your car drive by once in 4 days.

[popo8]

I'll have to meet up with you at OCMD this year, Larry instead of just watching your car drive by once in 4 days.


Deal, I will be at the BEECHMARK!!!

[Some_Random_Guy]

i have a chandler's opti, theyre really cheap. My opti runs like a champ. But my friend bought a chandler one and it was d.o.a so i guess its a hit or miss for somthing really cheap. I think maybe $160 with a lifetime warranty? I'll search for the link

[Joker Z28]

^bad ass

[Fixxer99TA]

Eh, any opti could be DOA... Theres lots of variables to consider before it hits your hands. Someone at the shipping warehouse could have even dropped it once :D

My other choice would have been a Dynaspark, so keep us posted Larry. I know the Dynaspark is expensive as hell (like all the good ones, actually kinda like everything automotive related) and it has a damn good reputation as bulletproof. I want to hear how yours works for your setup.

[TRIPOD]

DYNASPARK's response:

Larry,
If our unit wasn't better we wouldn't be here :) I tell you what I am so sure of our product I will ship you one to try and if your not happy just send it back. If you like then I will charge the your credit card.

Thanks Bob



Damn! Now that's a company that stands behind their product. Great thread.
I went with thepartslady on ebay my last opti. So far, so good. But, I don't spin mine to the moon in rpms.

[Some_Random_Guy]

^bad ass

i dont think thats pretty bad ass, You were the victim of the DOA opti lol

[popo8]

$599.00 PURCHASE MADE 5 minutes ago....


Just waiting to see it....

[popo8]

................and I didnt even have to pull my head out of it...:D



Found this on another CAMARO site.... and I WANT IT!!!!

Currie/Strange 9" rearend w/4.11 for 93-02 F-body Currie rearend kit with 31 spline axles, Strange center section with locker and 4.11 gears. Has disc brakes, mount for the torque arm and sway bar this is the direct bolt-in. Pulled out of a 99 SS this combo alone was over $3200 only asking $1700 just because need the money and please don't send me a lowball offer, go look these up the housing w/axles alone is $1800. Will try to get pics up soon $1700. E-mail XXXXXXXXXXXXX for quicker response




JUST waiting for dude to get back to me.... I dont even know that I will try to haggle the price...



What do y'all think?

[96lt1m6]

Great rear end the price is very tempting;)

[popo8]

Great rear end the price is very tempting;)


Thats why I X'd out the email... lol

[BLK95-Z]

Sweeeet.

[95formula383lt1]

good stuff bout time lol, something uve needed for tooo long. ill be hunting to but im mind set on a s60.

[shadowbandit]

lucky duck. i have been looking high and low for a good rear end for that kind of price good find

[Underworld Defender]

sweet deal :drool:

[KissMyWhtSS]

Thats why I X'd out the email... lol

jazani00@yahoo.com

[96lt1m6]

Ooooooo you are dirty posting that email!
You should be hand cuffed to a stock 10 bolt and dragged
Through ford country........;)

[CamaroGirl]

do it larry!
cheap ass is hard to find, and when you do, why, you buy it.

[popo8]

good stuff bout time lol, something uve needed for tooo long. ill be hunting to but im mind set on a s60.


I was looking for anything to finish my build...... and hopefully this is the one... Honestly, I did not care 8.8, 9", 12 bolt/s60........ whatever.... just waiting for some details and pics....

Hell I dont even know where the guy is located....

[popo8]

jazani00@yahoo.com


what an asshole this guy is^ . I do my best to not overstep the rules of the board everytime you do something to piss me off.... but you keep trying harder.

And Im sure Im gonna get in trouble by the mods for calling you an asshole, but unfortunatly I call it as I see it, and Ill take my punishment for doing so....

Hope to see you in KY.

[popo8]

MOre details on the rear

Got this out of a low mile 99 that got repoed it does not look like it was in there very long because the guy didn't even get it painted yet. I test drove the car and everything seemed to work nice w/ the gears in it that car took off like crazy. Anyway not sure on the exact miles dont know if you have driven a car with the locker in it but you can barely hear the locker when going around a turn. This does not have the ABS connection on it and it has the 12 inch rotors. I am in Tulsa, OK and $1500 is the bottom dollar.

[faust]

wow popo you okay. sounds like that knife in your back hurt lol

[popo8]

wow popo you okay. sounds like that knife in your back hurt lol


Im cool, haha. And usually very patient, although by nature I AM an Angry person. Ive been biting my lip for a while and this morning, I was surprised to find my buttons pushed further.

[faust]

i have and aquarium meeting in tulsa next saturday. i could swing by and visually check it out 4 u . dont worry i have a brand new strange 12 bolt
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i310/faustZ28/rearend2.jpg

[popo8]

i have and aquarium meeting in tulsa next saturday. i could swing by and visually check it out 4 u . dont worry i have a brand new strange 12 bolt
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i310/faustZ28/rearend2.jpg


LOL, thankyou, your the man!!! I will let you know.... I think for that price I may roll the dice. Now to talk the guy into SHIPPING it....

[faust]

really its no big deal. i myself get very cautious spending large sums with people i don't know. its a lil dif here as many of you have solid reps and i have gotten to know you. i live 40 min away from tulsa and trust me our month meet is really just a party in disguise. i get there a 3 pm and the earliest i have got back home is 3 am sunday followed by holding my wifes hair so she can puke lol
just lmk

[BIGT94z]

awesome deal if u do get it :cool:

[95formula383lt1]

jazani00@yahoo.com

wow super doucher move...:ban:

[Tarheel'Z']

wow super doucher move...:ban:
wouldnt be the first,,he's always good for an immature im better than you and i would never do that crap to my prestine car attitude,,you know what they say about kharma

[5POINT7]

jazani00@yahoo.comwow, that's shitty. Did you actually take the time out of your day to search for that ad. :rolleyes:

Good deal popo, good luck with it, and about shipping, I thought you liked the road trips. lol

[95formula383lt1]

wouldnt be the first,,he's always good for an immature im better than you and i would never do that crap to my prestine car attitude,,you know what they say about kharma

so ive noticed jason, he also seems to have a hard on for popo lately...:hmm:

[5POINT7]

so ive noticed jason, he also seems to have a hard on for popo lately...:hmm:always has, most of popo posts have a shitty remark coming from him.

[95formula383lt1]

maybe he should bite the bullet an invite him out to dinner, or atleast buy him a drink.:hmm:

[popo8]

Ok, looks like i have to make arrangments to ship this.... HAS ANYONE shipped anything this big.... WhAT DO I DO, its at a residence or he may be able to take it to a hub....


And here are some pics.... keep in mind its never been painted, however it still dont look bad....

[95formula383lt1]

i have, went with freight, old dominon, and there was a another one i used, forgot what it was though. edittt R and L was the other one i used.

put it on a pallet an strap it down. they will pick up for a extra 50 to 100 bucks in residentual.

[Tarheel'Z']

not sure but that may have to be crated up and shipped freight dont ya think?,,what part of the world is it in? do you want it before shootout?

[95formula383lt1]

ive just put stuff on a pallet strapped it down, plastic wrapped it called em an they came to pick up. Ive done this for the company i used to work for, and done it for personal stuff like engines to iowa from fl, and body parts.

[popo8]

Its in Tulsa OK.... and I cant do the road trip....


SHOoTouT???? I want it now... lol.....

Im just clueless with this freight shipping...


Should I just call UPS or fED EX or does it need BIGGER....

[Tarheel'Z']

id say bigger,,think paul's on the right track,,but dont take my word for it

[95formula383lt1]

ups does do freight as well seems to be a bit higher then other companies. Google old dominion, or R&L carriers, get the rear end weight an his address an urs they will give u a quote over the phone or online.

[faust]

exactly his zip is 74114 just asked for quotes using 225lbs as a ship weight. try to avoid having to get a lift gate. thats why you pay more for residental i wwould have him drop it at the hub and either pick it up at the hub or have it delivered to a friends biz with a forklift. no forklift = lift gate

[popo8]

Awesome... YOU GUYS ROCK, with the help and the "support".......

I am sooooo stoked and i want this thing. I have access to a business for it to be delivered to with a fork lift so I got it covered on my end.....

I will make calls tomorrow, just need him to lock me in on the purchase, because Im sure there are other people who will want this!

[95formula383lt1]

good deal:)

[popo8]

You know if I get my full RPM spectrum and tune in order... THiS will mean I am running in the SHOOTOUT!

[popo8]

jazani00@yahoo.com


So its been eating at me.... did you take the time to search for this information on other boards, or did you actually know the guy?

[popo8]

Ok, so I have some shippers to call 2moro, but I wanted to run this buy you all who may have more experience.... Im having de-ja-vue from the PARISH incident with my 1st motor.... but does PAY PAL give me any protection if I use them to make the purchase....?

[96LT1355Z28]

I doubt they will do much more than refund the $200.00 they usually pay out. Did you get the seller to hold it for you?

[popo8]

I doubt they will do much more than refund the $200.00 they usually pay out. Did you get the seller to hold it for you?


Yeah, Im in the process of making shipping arangments.... the deal is done, just gotta send the funds and cross my fingers he's legit.

[FastVert]

OEM, or ACCEL ones are much cheaper.....


Yes they are and will not last as long, I have tried all OPTI solutions including the DELTEQ with the stage III Dynaspark. In the end I know run the stage II and absolutely love it, haven't had one hiccup in years! I shift at 6800 with N2O - nothing upset's it. I have a one of the OPTI eating cars as well - up until I put the Dynaspark on it. Cannot praise them enough, customer service is just as good as the product.

[FastVert]

$599.00 PURCHASE MADE 5 minutes ago....


Just waiting to see it....


You will be impressed with the product quality and performance!

[popo8]

Well the rear is paid for.... I have a good friend of mine (with a business) working on shipping for me, since he believes he can get a better deal since he has accounts with the shippers......

$1540.50 HURTS!!!!! but it will be worth it.... I HOPE.....






BTW, my quotes ranged from $359-$1,000+:doh:

[popo8]

You will be impressed with the product quality and performance!


Im definitley getting that vibe from talking to the guy, and reading more and more positive feedback about them.

Maybe we should see if they want to sponser on the site...... a company that makes a quality OPTI and an LTx Based site..... sounds like CHOCOLATE and PEANUT BUTTER. JUST BELONGS TOGETHER>...

[ItSSlowZ28]

^^^you know some people don't like that? Crazy huh?

Congrats on the purchase!

[harner]

It doesn't hurt as bad as popping the 10 bolt when you're hundreds of miles away from home. Congrats on the purchase!

Hopefully you're investing in a strong driveshaft and u-joints as well.

[ItSSlowZ28]

dude, your buying all the good parts. dynaspark, 9 inch... save some for the rest of us!

[gofuqyerslf]

Hey bud I got the same rearend but I got 35 spline w a spool and a 9+ nodular center, i got mine from a ls1 car as well, i had to have my backing plates machined (to switch to lt1 brakes) and also center of rotors cut out as well. But I can't wait to beat the he'll out of it! Soon, very soon! :devil: nice find and hope it gets to you asap!

[gofuqyerslf]

Also you have to get a new drive shaft as a stock will not fit! Well it didn't fit in mine and I have a 6speed as well. If you have any questions pm me for my # and I'll glad tell you what I had to do to make it work. The backing plates for a ls1 will not work w your ebrake on a lt1

[AChotrod]

Im not so sure the TA will bolt right up, your going to need new backing plates and by the time you get it shipped you prob could of had a brand new S60 shipped for not much more that will bolt right in 100%. Sounds cool but not sure you got the best deal.:confused:

[ItSSlowZ28]

just convert to the ls1 rear brakes. why wouldn't the t/a bolt up? there is no difference in any of the aftermarket ones by year

[popo8]

I have access to a full pattern/machine shop so fabrication of anything will not be an issue....

As for the brakes... it has brakes on it.... Im sure I will be able to figure something out, or are you guys saying I will not be able to use the brakes that are on the rear?

Shipping will be $304.... that makes my total investment.... 1800 and change...... much less than an S60 or 10 bolt.... and nearly half of what this set up costs new.....

And no, I have not upgraded the DS yet..... I am running an LS style aluminum one right now, hwever if anyone has any suggestions as to what to upgrade to.... let me know...

Finally, This car has been waiting for this for a long time.... she deserves the best!:heart:

[speedracer2536]

carbon fiber ds FTW

[gofuqyerslf]

Setting up the ebrake from a lt1 to a ls1 is a pain in the ass! Gonna have to cut down your backing plates from your lt1 10 bolt I just had mine done.

[popo8]

Setting up the ebrake from a lt1 to a ls1 is a pain in the ass! Gonna have to cut down your backing plates from your lt1 10 bolt I just had mine done.


Can you send me a PM on whatelse is involved? Why do the backing plates need to be cut down....



And no..... I can not afford a Carbon Fiber DS....

[speedracer2536]

there is a guy sellin gone on tech for a pretty good deal..

[AChotrod]

Ah I missed the pics, you already have the TA mount and brakes, so thats good. Shipping isnt as bad as you made it seem. Good deal! :claps:

[popo8]

Ah I missed the pics, you already have the TA mount and brakes, so thats good. Shipping isnt as bad as you made it seem. Good deal! :claps:


AC, so now that you looked at the pic, I wont have probs with the TA or the brakes (other than some work I may have to do to get the ebrake to work)?

Shipping is even better than I thought...

DUDE called me a lil bit ago, he dropped it off an CONWAY, and it weighed a little more than we thought with the pallet Over 300 lbs...... BUT..........

Because he is shipping it to my friends business who has an account with CONWAY.... My friend gets a 50% discount.... IDK why.... but I aint complaining...


So, its sup to be 380.00 but has been reduced to 190 shipped!!!!


NOW IM REALLY EXCITED.

[popo8]

there is a guy sellin gone on tech for a pretty good deal..


Any chance you mind sending me the link????:hail:

[LeadfootLT1]

Your ebrake cables should attach to the ls brakes. if not you can always get a new set of ls cables from one of our distributors for cheap.

[popo8]

Your ebrake cables should attach to the ls brakes. if not you can always get a new set of ls cables from one of our distributors for cheap.


Is that all it will take to fix? and LS brake cable????

[LeadfootLT1]

that rear comes with the calipers, rotors and looks like the backing plates. the ls brakes have a drum/shoe style ebrake setup as opposed to the lt1 cars that work through the caliper. if your lt cables dont work with the ls backing plates than youll just need 2 new cables. everything else is there :cool:

[LeadfootLT1]

the ls ebrake is much better than the lt.and rotors are a tad bigger. so your upgrading your brakes too

[Tarheel'Z']

if you end up parting with that ls aluminum shaft i just may know someone who could use it:whistle::drool:

[popo8]

the ls ebrake is much better than the lt.and rotors are a tad bigger. so your upgrading your brakes too


Thanks Cody... sounds like your gonna get your hands dirty with us on the instal..... yes?

[n2ocamaro]

Larry, for the driveshaft check out Midwest Chassis. I got a custom length, Strange 3" chrome-moly shaft for 295.00 shipped from them over 2 years ago. Dont know if its still that price, but its worth checking out. Eric is a great guy to deal with.

[popo8]

Larry, for the driveshaft check out Midwest Chassis. I got a custom length, Strange 3" chrome-moly shaft for 295.00 shipped from them over 2 years ago. Dont know if its still that price, but its worth checking out. Eric is a great guy to deal with.


Ok, I will definitley!!!!

For now we will put it together with the LS1 alum that I have...... I still dont have the OBDI tune yet, and I have not bought sticky tires so it WILL be ok for a while....

[popo8]

Well even after SOMEONE tried to sabotage my efforts to get this rear... its here, its been gone over, and cleaned up with paint.

As always when you buy used, you take alot of risks.....

The alleged 4.11 gears turned out to be 3.70s.... ehhhh no big deal, ILL JUST TURN UP THE WICK.... the other part is GREAT... the alleged 31 spline axels turned out to be 35s.... AWWWW YEAHHHHHH!

Everything is in LIKE NEW condition, hardly any wear on the teeth.....

Now, we gotta get it in the car......


BTW in that pic is BLUEBOTTLEZ and ME....

[Chris]

Locker or a posi?

[MeanGreen94Z]

Larry you better hope that thing has a wave trac I had a locker and ended up paying a grand for the wavetrac because the locker beat the he'll out of everything in my car, if I remember, your car is a six speed, and if im right you will hate the locker :(

[Chris]

my review ]]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/gears-axles/1312104-review-locker-m6.html

[popo8]

Its a locker as originally posted in the FIRST post....

[popo8]

my review ]]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/gears-axles/1312104-review-locker-m6.html


I remember your review... I have no prob with those issues, Its no longer gonna be a DD. I have the vette for that now.

[popo8]

GUESS WHATS HERE!!!!!!
and they threw in a t-shirt.

[speedracer2536]

Looks great man.. Let us know how it runs

[LT1UltraZ]

i would stick with AC Delco....:hmm:

[popo8]

i would stick with AC Delco....:hmm:


Serious or sarcasm^^^

[LT1UltraZ]

Serious or sarcasm^^^

actually pretty serious :embarassed:

The opti hasn't failed me yet, when it does ill probably replace it with a new AC Delco.

[popo8]

Thats cool, I wish you luck... however for 600 bucks the lifetime guarantee I believe may pay off in the long run... you will only be able to replace that DELCO once before you have spent more than me.....

And with all the research I have done, It appears the DYNASPARK is a far superior piece. But to each their own, I wish everyone who supports the sport of LTX modding the best of luck with their combinations....

Well, almost everyone......

[LT1UltraZ]

Thats cool, I wish you luck... however for 600 bucks the lifetime guarantee I believe may pay off in the long run... you will only be able to replace that DELCO once before you have spent more than me.....

And with all the research I have done, It appears the DYNASPARK is a far superior piece. But to each their own, I wish everyone who supports the sport of LTX modding the best of luck with their combinations....

Well, almost everyone......

oh i wasn't aware of their lifetime warranty...thats pretty sweet....i will have to look into it when my opti fails.

[popo8]

oh i wasn't aware of their lifetime warranty...thats pretty sweet....i will have to look into it when my opti fails.


BOB at DYNASPARK has been awesome!!!

And it appears they fixed alot of the other companies short comings with the OPTI

[speedracer2536]

Have you installed it?? Any reports on how it works.. Also what are they using for the Optical sensor?

[popo8]

Have you installed it?? Any reports on how it works.. Also what are they using for the Optical sensor?


It just arrived today... as for details on the DYNASPARK, check their site in the first post of my link...

[1badz]

Sick!!!!! Let us know how it works out for you.

[FastVert]

It just arrived today... as for details on the DYNASPARK, check their site in the first post of my link...

I've been running mine for two years, ZERO issues and my car use to eat OPTI's at a rate of one a year - every one was a Factory AC Delco.

[popo8]

I've been running mine for two years, ZERO issues and my car use to eat OPTI's at a rate of one a year - every one was a Factory AC Delco.


Im excted..... Now I gotta get my back to stop hurting, and get it installed....

[gregrob]

all you need to do for your brakes is swap housing ends. Which I believe entails pressing off the housing ends, changing backing plates, and pressing them back on.

Not too big of a deal.

Congrats on the rear, I saw the ad too before you bought it :D

[FastVert]

Have you installed it yet?

[popo8]

No, backs still out. Cant really do much of anything.

[popo8]

all you need to do for your brakes is swap housing ends. Which I believe entails pressing off the housing ends, changing backing plates, and pressing them back on.

Not too big of a deal.

Congrats on the rear, I saw the ad too before you bought it :D

Thanks man, how about changing over to an LS1 e-brake cable, would that be easier?

[QC97Z]

You didn't let some PA punks beat you down did you?
Part of being POPO i guess.

[popo8]

You didn't let some PA punks beat you down did you?
Part of being POPO i guess.



Wish it was a cool story like that, but unfortunatley, its a simple slip and jerk in the snow while at work back on the 26th....

[QC97Z]

Shitty. Sorry to hear that Larry. Hope you get better soon! Spring will be here before we know it....you'll need to be able to get in and out of the Camaro and Vette!

[popo8]

Shitty. Sorry to hear that Larry. Hope you get better soon! Spring will be here before we know it....you'll need to be able to get in and out of the Camaro and Vette!


You aint kidding. Good news is getting in the vette is EASY.... coming out is painful....

[Captain Dirtymax]

i bet i could find you a stronger rear axle than that, for the same price or less:secret:

just look for a 11.5" full floating 14-bolt. i can guarantee you would never break it. it's the same rear that's under ever Duramax powered Silverado from 2000-present. and guys have launched full weight trucks with them with over 1400rwtq. can find them for around $1400.

[popo8]

i bet i could find you a stronger rear axle than that, for the same price or less:secret:

just look for a 11.5" full floating 14-bolt. i can guarantee you would never break it. it's the same rear that's under ever Duramax powered Silverado from 2000-present. and guys have launched full weight trucks with them with over 1400rwtq. can find them for around $1400.


lol, thanks man, but Im happy with my deal. 1500 and change for a 9" with locker, with 35 spline axels and everything in nearly brand new condition, thats BOLT IN for my Fbody.... Im going to have to say will be a better deal.:laugh::D

[MeanGreen94Z]

i bet i could find you a stronger rear axle than that, for the same price or less:secret:

just look for a 11.5" full floating 14-bolt. i can guarantee you would never break it. it's the same rear that's under ever Duramax powered Silverado from 2000-present. and guys have launched full weight trucks with them with over 1400rwtq. can find them for around $1400.

how big is the 14 bolt compared to a 10... i guarantee you wouldnt fit it under a F body lol

[Captain Dirtymax]

f-body 10-bolt is a 7.5" ring gear right??? or was it 8.5"??? either way, 14-bolt FF is 11.5" ring gear lol

[harner]

If you're after a 14 bolt for whatever reason, the TBSS's came with them. :hmm:

[popo8]

f-body 10-bolt is a 7.5" ring gear right??? or was it 8.5"??? either way, 14-bolt FF is 11.5" ring gear lol


Sounds HUGE and HEAVY....

[harner]

Sounds HUGE and HEAVY....

Sounds like the formula for "Unbreakable." Haha.

[Captain Dirtymax]

If you're after a 14 bolt for whatever reason, the TBSS's came with them. :hmm:

TBSS came with a 9.5" 14-bolt. which HAVE broken under 1000whp and 1000wtq.;)

[popo8]

WELL.... lets see how DYNASPARKS customer sevice is going to be... Spent the day today installing the new opti (and the new rear, but that will be updated in a dif thread).

And after having almost everything back together... NO START..... a check for spark at the plugs showed no spark..... ugh.......

PS, yes opti is installed corectly..... went in with no problems, and positivly matched the hole (or whatever its called with the dowel....


We were tired, so..... we called it a night.....

I know this has been covered, but if anyone has any directons to check throw em at me.... Im exhausted.

[popo8]

Well, spent the entire day... (noon till 9pm) installing my new 9" and new Opti..... neither went smooth....


Well I wrote about the opti experience in the other thread.... the 9" is in, (everything is loose still) but having some issues with the lakewood traction set up.... It wont fit..... so for now, I just have the square trailing arms in place for the sake of mounting....... ok well... thats my update.... so now the car is DOWN.... blah.

[Chris]

Traction set?

[popo8]

Traction set?


yeah remember, I bought them from HUFF a while ago....

this set....
http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6089&currency=USD

[Chris]

oh

[speedracer2536]

I think i have some directions on my laptop at home.. i can check tonight.. i know it sounds dumb.. But did you plug it into the pigtail? i have forgotten to do that sometimes.. :D

[speedracer2536]

here are the directions that i have..

http://www.dynaspark.net/support/Dynaspark_GEN_II.pdf

[popo8]

here are the directions that i have..

http://www.dynaspark.net/support/Dynaspark_GEN_II.pdf


THANK YOU, i will review them 2moro at the garage.....

[popo8]

ONCE AGAIN, DYNASPARK customer service suprises me!!!!

I wrote this :


Bob,

Today we finally installed my Dynaspartk Opti in my 1996 Camaro Z28...

Unfortunatley, I now have a no start issue. We reveiwed the instructions although this is not the first opti we have installed, and we checked all of the connections, and reviewed the instructions again.

We can not find anything wrong, and our only suspicion is the opti has malfunctioned from new. Have you had ANY issues like this before?

Also, the opti I received from you did not come with anything other than the opti, no installation kits or tools or any of the items mentioned in the instruction PDF on your website.

Please contact me ASAP, since the car is currently tieing up a bay at the garage.

Thank You Again




and he responded:

"Larry,
I will send another unit out ASAP!!! Please return to origional unit when you recieve the replacement.

Thanks Bob "

[speedracer2536]

Damn!!! Thats some bad ass service for sure!

[QC97Z]

^ Loving it. It's companies like this that deserve our business. Unlike Chandler.

[ItSSlowZ28]

nice! if none of these new opti alternatives pan out i may be going with a dynaspark next time its called for

[popo8]

I honestly couldnt ask for better service..... Yeah, it woulda been nice if this one worked (still dont know if I missed something, because I have not been to the shop to go over the car) but stuff happens, even to the best of products....

[Some_Random_Guy]

My chandler opti is on it's death bed im pretty sure of and it only lasted me 5-6 months. I ordered their liftetime warranty deal and emailed them and that was friday last week....still no response
I may have to go with a dynaspark after this feedback. Not excited about the spending $600 and being unemployed :cry:

[bowtiedad_z28]

I am pretty sure that is the opti i am going with in my other car. Nice thing is they are only about a hour away so i will just go pick it up.:D Seems as though their customer service rocks.:claps:

[Some_Random_Guy]

i sent them an email a few hours ago, just waiting on a reply. I hope they hurry before mine actually dies

[1badz]

Good to hear about their customer service! If the Camaro ever needs another opti, I will invest in a Dynaspark. The Formula has a functioning Chandler unit (*knocks on wood*).

[Bersaglieri]

If my GM one takes a poop I'd consider the Dynaspark. I remember some fast guys back in the day actually claiming track gains from the swap. Not sure if those gains were over severely worn optis, but I'm talking guys who were running 10's on the motor back when 10's on the motor was pretty rare.

-Dustin-

[popo8]

Well, Im glad I could share my experience with you guys.....


UPDATE: New Opti arrived TODAY.... THAT WAS FAST!!!!! Anyways, they included another Dynaspark t-shirt and stickers (I LOVE STICKERS!!!!)


Maybe this weekend we can try again.....

[popo8]

UGHHHHHHHH, ok here's the situation......


First Dynaspark.... intstalled, car buttoned up.... NO START.

Emailed Dynaspark.... new Opti arrived within 3 days NO QUESTIONS asked...

Today, pulled the new opti out of the box , spun the shaft, and as the hole that locates the dowl pin passes the electrical connector, it makes a horrible clicking sound.

Installed it anyways, installed balancer only and fired car.... IT FIRED.... BUT.... when that opti is spinning, it sounds like a motor knock (but its not). Thats just how loud that clicking sound is when its spinning fast.

EMAIL SENT TO DYNASPARK AGAIN.........

(we'll see.)

[BLK95-Z]

Sorry to hear man. I was on the fence between one of these and the MSD....seems youve had great luck with both :jest:

[ItSSlowZ28]

wow, i've never heard heard of anyone having a problem with the dynaspark and here you are with back to back issues. glad they've been so good to you about this

[1badz]

Damn dude!

...Chandler all the way!!

:shiner: jk

[popo8]

Well, they called me today, and apologized profusely.... they said parts just came in for them to build a new batch... My new one should be here by the end of the week...... 3rd times the charm... right....:laugh:

[speedracer2536]

Man at least they are forth coming.. Still +1 In my book.. They seem to be taking care of you

[Some_Random_Guy]

i sent them an email and a phone call, nothing has been returned for me, so looks like chandler and dynaspark are a no go for me

[cdreece]

i would go with a GM vented opti seems to be the most reliable out there

[spikester7878]

the reason the site says its the last opti you will buy is cus after that shit you will switch to delteq. im happy as hell i did instead of useing dynaspark after this horror story

[popo8]

Well opti number 3 has shown up... shaft is smooth upon rotating with hand... hopefully on sunday we have it in.... and as long as the car starts its all good....


They have been fabulous for customer service... in fact, Im in posession of 1800 bucks worth of their optis, as I hash thru this issue..... FINGERS CROSSED.

PS-Ill never get rid of my opti......<3

[nascarnate326]

Wow. My delco is going to be replaced this summer, hope I can get a good unit from someone.

Lt1 ftw

[F.G.]

Hope everything turns out good man

[Epro]

My 1995 Z28 is on it's original opti. I've considered replacing it before it goes when I'm far away from home.

[Dave357LT1]

Just ordered my Dynaspark yesterday. I hope it works :D

Did you get urs going? Please say yes. And they had no stinkin shirts :cry:

[popo8]

Just ordered my Dynaspark yesterday. I hope it works :D

Did you get urs going? Please say yes. And they had no stinkin shirts :cry:


Mine is working, however I am waiting for the computer i sent MOEHORSEPOWER to see how it runs. The one in there is SO FAT it huffs when started..... (long story, but we were trying to trouble shoot the misfire, and up'd the fuel, to see if I was running out.... IM NOT)


They are out of shirts, because they sent me one with all three optis.....

[popo8]

Well she is all together in the rear end.... BLUEBOTTLE Z has been doing pretty much everything to the car and I cant thank him enough.... soon as some soldering to some previously crimped conections is complete, I will have her on the road for some LOCKER break in.....:secret:

[Chris]

Lol locker,

[popo8]

:cool:

[Dave357LT1]

Well i just got my dynaspark on and its DOA also! No bueno

[faust]

shit i hate it for you guys i hate doing it once much less twice

[popo8]

Well i just got my dynaspark on and its DOA also! No bueno


Yeah Paul was texting me earlier.... I said maybe it was the first one I sent back..... Took till my third one for it to be right.... but it def feels good now!

[Dave357LT1]

Yeah Paul was texting me earlier.... I said maybe it was the first one I sent back..... Took till my third one for it to be right.... but it def feels good now!

Ya i hope they get me one that works asap. I took a week of vacation to get my car going. Im on my second block and soon to be second opti.....

[Lawhead]

Ya i hope they get me one that works asap. I took a week of vacation to get my car going. Im on my second block and soon to be second opti.....

That sucks man i can't wait till you get that thing to the track!!

[Dave357LT1]

Just called them. They are sending me a new one today. Good C.S. just hope the second time is a charm lol

[popo8]

Just called them. They are sending me a new one today. Good C.S. just hope the second time is a charm lol


took me 3 times... but Im happy now... And yes C.S is excellent

[AChotrod]

After seeing what happened after Dyno tech sold the name off, I WILL NEVER BUY ONE. Delco or MSD is the only two choices IMO. Better yet Delco with MSD cap and rotor. Check out the thread on LS1tech..........:shiner:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/1419408-dynaspark-experience-long.html

[popo8]

After seeing what happened after Dyno tech sold the name off, I WILL NEVER BUY ONE. Delco or MSD is the only two choices IMO. Better yet Delco with MSD cap and rotor. Check out the thread on LS1tech..........:shiner:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/1419408-dynaspark-experience-long.html


MSD=:puke:

[AChotrod]

Seems they have more luck, than Dynaspark lately. I would just do the MSD cap and rotor on the GM base with org Mitsubishi sensor. I would be so pissed if I had to rip the car down 3x do to faulty parts. Check out the thread I linked.

[faust]

After seeing what happened after Dyno tech sold the name off, I WILL NEVER BUY ONE.l (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/1419408-dynaspark-experience-long.html)
did chandler buy the name lol sorry i had too

[popo8]

did chandler buy the name lol sorry i had too


Couldnt have..... CUSTOMER SERVICE IS WAY TO GOOD....:laugh:

[zooguy]

think my opti just took a dump ... POPO8 ... i want proof ... i want to see a dyno sheet with the 5100 misfire and a dynosheet with the no misfire run

if you want to crop off the numbers from the side so we dont know how much power you put out fine but i want paper proof before i drop $600 bucks of my paycheck ...


pics or it didnt happen
:needpics:

[popo8]

think my opti just took a dump ... POPO8 ... i want proof ... i want to see a dyno sheet with the 5100 misfire and a dynosheet with the no misfire run

if you want to crop off the numbers from the side so we dont know how much power you put out fine but i want paper proof before i drop $600 bucks of my paycheck ...


pics or it didnt happen
:needpics:


Im hoping this is friendly banter and not actually a challenge.... because I have nothing to prove.... Without the dyno sheet, I can tell you now the car spins right past 5100 smooth and strong now that I am starting to whoop on it a bit......

[zooguy]

it is and isn't ... many people on here trust your word as i do. but i am sure that i am not the only one thinking $600 is alot of money to spend on blind trust.

pics showing that you spent your money well will make the $600 pill easier to swallow

[harner]

Whether you spend $300 or $600, chances are it's a ticking time bomb, regardless. I don't know if posting graphs of a failing opti and posting graphs of the new $600 opti are really worth the effort of uploading.

[popo8]

it is and isn't ... many people on here trust your word as i do. but i am sure that i am not the only one thinking $600 is alot of money to spend on blind trust.

pics showing that you spent your money well will make the $600 pill easier to swallow


Well I cant say this enough... their Customer Service is 2nd to none..... and that alone to me, is worth the 600 bucks. Now, IDK about the insides, but let me tell you, the exterior of a dynaspark Opti shows "quality." everything from the gasket that my MSD did not have to seal the back side against the timing chain cover is the first sign.... The harness and its weather proofed ends, are beautiful.........

Like HARNER said, an OPTI is an OPTI is an OPTI...... its just a matter of time, but when mine takes another shyt, I know their CS will be there (I hope...lol)

[ItSSlowZ28]

Like HARNER said, an OPTI is an OPTI is an OPTI...... its just a matter of time, but when mine takes another shyt, I know their CS will be there (I hope...lol)
i hope after this thread and the thread on ls1tech THEY will still be there...

[FastVert]

Well I cant say this enough... their Customer Service is 2nd to none..... and that alone to me, is worth the 600 bucks. Now, IDK about the insides, but let me tell you, the exterior of a dynaspark Opti shows "quality." everything from the gasket that my MSD did not have to seal the back side against the timing chain cover is the first sign.... The harness and its weather proofed ends, are beautiful.........

Like HARNER said, an OPTI is an OPTI is an OPTI...... its just a matter of time, but when mine takes another shyt, I know their CS will be there (I hope...lol)


Not to mention the Dynaspark only costs a 100.00 to have rebuilt. I was suprised to see you guy's have issues with a couple of them but I'm not even close to being suprised they made good in the issues with no fuss. I have had mine for two years now and yep Zero problems -at the track and the "private track" cruising idling always a champ.

[Dave357LT1]

On tuesday i found out i had a DOA Dyanspark. Called them and they sent me another one very fast. I had it by thursday. When i opened it up last night i found that the harness had a tear in it and i could see the red and the blue wires (see pic). While this dosnt mean that it wouldnt work BUT im not putting that like it is under a water pump. There is also a woble in the pin drive. I dont have a tool to measure the amount so i cant say for sure if that is outa spec or not. On a positive note i called them and spoke with the owner. He seemed to be baffled. He offered to give me my money back. I said no i want a working lifetime replacement opti!!!! So he said he would ship me one today or over night one monday. I told him that we dont have much else to turn to and that lt1 guys will pay the $600 if the product will back it up. He seemed very understanding and wanted to make it right. I also told him that there was alot of negative feedback on the fourms with his product. Im not gonna defend the product yet but i will say that he is willing to stand behind it with C.S. 100% Im not sure why people on here were e-mailing them. EVERYTIME ive called ive spoke to the lady at the desk then the owner. Atleast he isnt hiding. So lets hope the third time is a charm.....

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv321/svmswfl/wires.jpg

[popo8]

On tuesday i found out i had a DOA Dyanspark. Called them and they sent me another one very fast. I had it by thursday. When i opened it up last night i found that the harness had a tear in it and i could see the red and the blue wires (see pic). While this dosnt mean that it wouldnt work BUT im not putting that like it is under a water pump. There is also a woble in the pin drive. I dont have a tool to measure the amount so i cant say for sure if that is outa spec or not. On a positive note i called them and spoke with the owner. He seemed to be baffled. He offered to give me my money back. I said no i want a working lifetime replacement opti!!!! So he said he would ship me one today or over night one monday. I told him that we dont have much else to turn to and that lt1 guys will pay the $600 if the product will back it up. He seemed very understanding and wanted to make it right. I also told him that there was alot of negative feedback on the fourms with his product. Im not gonna defend the product yet but i will say that he is willing to stand behind it with C.S. 100% Im not sure why people on here were e-mailing them. EVERYTIME ive called ive spoke to the lady at the desk then the owner. Atleast he isnt hiding. So lets hope the third time is a charm.....

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Third time is the charm man.... EMAILS and PHONE CALLS were answered promptly and courteously for me.....

[harner]

I hope by the time I need to replace my delco unit that Dynaspark is done with the riff raff of sending damaged/bad opti's out. It's bad enough when the opti goes it takes a few hours to do the job. Waiting a couple extra days an doing the job over and over again just sucks.

I'm sure it will.

[Dave357LT1]

I spoke with the owner of dynaspark today. He is changing back to the first optical sensor. The new one was sold to him to outperform the first one but it didnt. I aslo told him about the thread on ls1tech and he went on there and made a post. This makes me feel better. He seems like a upfront guy that will stand behind the unit and be up front with you. :claps:

[popo8]

I spoke with the owner of dynaspark today. He is changing back to the first optical sensor. The new one was sold to him to outperform the first one but it didnt. I aslo told him about the thread on ls1tech and he went on there and made a post. This makes me feel better. He seems like a upfront guy that will stand behind the unit and be up front with you. :claps:


Thats great news....