Stella.(93Z) lives again

[Louvit]

no tune open headers nothing at all adjusted...more to come.

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[roadrocket]

It lives!:hail:

[AChotrod]

Sounds Scary!:):):)

[Fastbird]

Nice! What did you do?

[Fixxer99TA]

Sounds sweet, X2 on wanting to know what was done...

[97Z28]

Yep, sounds pretty ridiculous. What's done to it? x 3

[1hottcamaro]

Yep, sounds pretty ridiculous. What's done to it? x 3


x4!

[TCGiRL220]

awesome! sounds great!

[KissMyWhtSS]

might as well say x5

[geoman]

Come on Lou. I know, but I am not spoiling the surprise..lol! Sounds good!!! I need to hear it in person.. :)

[YZF]

I guess ill go for X6....

[Tony Shepherd]

X7

[YZF]

EPIC!!

[Tony Shepherd]

EPIC X 2 :D

[OutCast]

hahaha, Lou has alot going on so he's prolly not checking back very often here...yet. I put the motor in for him. Below are the specs. Still trying to work out a vibration before he can have it back though.

Lunati 60123 duration 243/251 at .050 lift .597int .602 exh with a 1.6
rocker lsa 110 icl 106 install straigh up with no advance.

Bore 4.00
Stroke 3.48
Piston Compression Height 1.125
Rod Lenght 6.125

Piston brand Cosworth forged +5cc (i dont remeber what they cc'd to

Rods Scat Pro Series I-beams

Crank Scat cast internal balance

Rings Total seal top ring is gapless,
I think the ring package is .043 top, 1/16 2nd and 3/16 oil

Heads are LE1.5 stock valve sizes with 56cc chambers. I've never CC's the
intake ports but according to lloyd they should be 180-185cc's.

Springs K-motion k800's with TI retainers and +.50 locks. Install height is
1.80

Heads have studs installed so do the main caps. Its still 2bolt mains.

Oil pump Melling 10552

[Louvit]

crap I didnt get e mail notifactions on the thread....yea what Outcast said....thanks for filling them in Rick...

Rick is holding it hostage I think, but he was nice enough to take me for a ride in MY car yesterday....lol.

Now he's dragging it around Tampa on his trailor..it's like find Waldo.....lol

[Louvit]

Great news all!!!!! the motor is coming out again, seems there may be a balance issue. Car vibrates alot. We think that the original owner had the motor balanced with his flex plate on it so my flywheel is not correct and cannot made to be correct unless we pull it and send it out.I am wondering if it's better jsut to buy another crank.

[Louvit]

update...

so far we have seen that the intake rockers seem to be hitting thr springs...We are going with a stock trans mount for a test to see if the vibration goes away. the flex plate that was on it was not modified at all as far as we know so the stock flywheel should be weighed the same

[Pauly Walnuts]

Hope all works out for ya Lou & Rick.

[Bones]

damn that sounds sick! Very nice!

[Louvit]

Dremeled the rockers still have a slight knock in the drivers side. intake and head to come off before we pull the motor out again

[geoman]

Lou,

Did changing out the mount help?

Let me know if you need any help. I MAY be able to spare an hour...lol

Later,
Mike

[Louvit]

haven't spoke to Rick, I know the intake was coming off to check the lifters, we are looking at the knock/valvetrain noise more than the vibe..I think the vibe is just the solid mount and the big cam

[OutCast]

Didn't get to work on it last night but tonight I ran it for a little while, even backed it out of the driveway to turn it around the other way in my garage. Once it was back in, I left it running and checked the amount of oil coming out of the pushrods. There was no oil that I could see coming out and on both of my LT1s there's usually a good stream filling the middle of the rocker. As it was running I looked down to the lifter and could see a good stream of oil coming out between the outside/body of the lifter and the lifter bore. I went ahead and pulled the intake to see the lifters and check the cam lobes. The lobes on the cam look good. The rollers on the lifters all look fine but you can see some vertical lines forming on the body where it rides in the bore. What's everyone's opinion of putting the stock lifters back in? There wasn't anything wrong with them. Here's some pics and another video that shows the lack of oil. I threw in a stock lifter for comparison in the lifter shots.

Video
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[geoman]

hmmmm..... You should be slinging oil out everywhere while it is running. Sounds like the lifters are not pumping up the oil but you are seeing it slosh out from the lifter bore. Is it just one or two lifters or all of them? I would put a new set in, go with a set of GM stockers. What brand are those in there now? Comp/ GM?

Good luck with it.
Mike

[OutCast]

It looks like all of them to me. The lifters in there now are Part# GP1011 from Gaterman Products LLC. Not sure where Lou got them from. I'm guessing it may be a reman'd LS1 set.

I spent some time on the phone with Comp yesterday talking about lifters and they say that all of their LT1 lifters are just like what we are using now which is basically the LS1 lifter. They suggested soaking the lifters in a solvent (mineral spirits or similar) before soaking in oil as prep for installation. I've always only soaked in oil and never had a problem but I can understand his reasoning. Now, the question is, do you think I could soak these lifters that we have (the ls1 ones that I just pulled back out of the motor) in a solvent and put them back in or start over with a new set and soak in solvent, then oil, then install? I'd hate to go through it with the ones we have already had in the motor and just have it do the same thing. If we go with new lifters Comp suggests going with their part # 350-16

[geoman]

I would say no...only reason I say this if it were one or two I could understand this, but if all of them are not pumping oil to the top, then I would thing the lifters are just not right fo whatever reason. Like you, I have always left mine in fresh oil overnight before installing into the block. I have heard of people using the LS7 lifter and comps so far. I would get a new set of comps or as mentioned before a new set through GMPP....maybe find someone seperating a hot cam kit or something like that.

Just some food for thought...... :)

[Louvit]

Rick, Jason ordered the lifters for me