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RealQuick

03-23-2010, 01:12 PM

***Update***
Edit... just talk to Travis and he got some preliminary numbers:

A/F right around 12.0
timing only @ 17 degrees (which is low for an LTx. I told him to turn it up to 24-26 degrees, but start @ 21/22 degrees and see how it reacts as he goes up).
91 octane doesn't help...

495rwhp/491rwtq @ 7psi thru an AUTO

He then added more timing (21 degrees) and made 600rwhp/605rwtq @ 10psi thru an auto
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96 Z28 with the following mods:

224/224 .577/.582 114 LSA
This is the MAF I'm using, but mine is all aluminum. It has the IAT sensor built in. This website has tables for tuning,
http://www.powrmax.com/PowrMAF%20100.html
I don't know what boost I'll be at, anywhere from 10-15psi from what I'm told. I'm not looking for a particular hp or ET or boost level, so whatever springs I'm using now will be fine for a while.
I'm using a LT1 style monoblade throttle body with the LT1 style IAC and TPS sensors. I have a 3 bar MAP sensor.
I have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator set to about 42 psi at idle. Twin in-tank walbro 255lph fuel pumps, one set to come on at about 5-6 psi. Fuel injectors are Siemen Deka 80lb high impedance injectors.
Ignition is a LSI PCM with D585 truck coils (lower dwell time) and MSD wires with iridium spark plugs gapped at .031"
Rockers are crower 1.65.
Springs are Comp 26094-16. Seat load: 178lbs @1.900''_Open load: 459lbs @1.275_Rate: 449lbs/in
I'm using LS7 lifter with about .00416" preload.
Fans are Flex Lite 410's.
Tranny is a built 4L60E with a 2800 stall.
Rear end is a 12 bolt with 4.11 gears.
Compression ratio should be around 9.2:1.

General Engine Specs

1997 .030" over 350 LT1 out of a Pontiac Firebird
230cc Brodix LT1 Cylinder Heads w/62cc Chambers
Fully CNC ported intake/exhaust/combustion chambers
Cometic "MLS" Head Gaskets
ARP Undercut Head and Main Studs
CP Pistons & Pins - 24cc Dish (Approx. 9.0:1 comp ratio with 62cc heads and .040 gasket)
Total Seal Piston Rings
Manley 5.700" H-Beam Connecting Rods
Callies Billet Steel Splayed 4 Bolt Main Bearing Caps
Callies "Stealth" 4340 3.75" Stroke Crankshaft - Internally Balanced
Fluidampr 7.5 o.d. internal balance 740101
Cloyes Double Roller Timing Chain
Canton Road Race Oil Pan, Melling High Volume (10%) Pump Mel-10552, and Canton Pickup
Trickflow 7.3" Chromemoly One Piece Pushrods TFS-21407300

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Chris

03-23-2010, 01:24 PM

I cant wait for boost when my time comes. This looks like a solid build of course. Do you match the stall to where there should be no lag?

RealQuick

03-23-2010, 01:31 PM

I cant wait for boost when my time comes. This looks like a solid build of course. Do you match the stall to where there should be no lag?

No, the customer got a good deal on this stall, so he is gonna try it. Full boost should be at 3000-3200rpm.

Z28pr0jekt

03-23-2010, 01:50 PM

why do people have to steal my tc78 idea :( haha

RealQuick

03-23-2010, 01:53 PM

why do people have to steal my tc78 idea :( haha

He was gonna use a TC76, but for the same price he can use a TC78, so why not. :peace2::finger:

RealQuick

03-24-2010, 08:19 AM

Made a little progress last night, but forgot my camera.... got 2 primaries in place, working on the third (all for driver's side header). Once it is all tacked up I will test fit in the car. I will post pics tonight.

Fastbird

03-24-2010, 01:43 PM

What's he giving up with this kit?? A/C?? PS?? Motor should be a monster for sure judging off the specs.

RealQuick

03-24-2010, 01:52 PM

What's he giving up with this kit?? A/C?? PS?? Motor should be a monster for sure judging off the specs.

Just A/C.

RealQuick

03-24-2010, 08:21 PM

Driver's Header tacked

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC01955.jpg
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Joker Z28

03-24-2010, 09:10 PM

I want to touch it.
I would love to go FI but god its expensive.

Fastbird

03-24-2010, 09:40 PM

Oh damn Jon, running it forward!! Nice job......that's going to look awesome. I take it he's standing up the radiator??? If he needs one put him in touch with me, I have a brand new Griffin that I bought when I though I was going with OFI.......I'm sticking with the stock one now with your kit again and don't need this griffin piece.

RealQuick

03-25-2010, 08:04 AM

RealQuick

03-25-2010, 08:31 PM

Started to layout the pass. side header.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC01961.jpg
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Fire67

03-26-2010, 10:06 AM

RealQuick

03-26-2010, 10:10 AM

Dayum Jon! That drivers side header is a work of art! Your work never ceases to amaze me, and somehow looks better and better every time I see new pics. Im definitely impressed! Keep up the good work bro!

Thanks Justin! I recently bought a chop saw for cutting the piping... I don't how I was building kits before without it! Alot easier than sawzalling evry piece!

mrbadlt1

03-26-2010, 10:44 AM

headers are turning out great, cant wait to see more pics

RealQuick

03-26-2010, 10:55 AM

headers are turning out great, cant wait to see more pics

Thanks. :cheers:

Should be able to finish tacking up the pass. header tonight. Next steps will be to install them in the mockup vehicle to ensure that they fit. Then's I'll move onto the rest of the hotparts, then cold side.

Fire67

03-26-2010, 11:10 AM

Thanks Justin! I recently bought a chop saw for cutting the piping... I don't how I was building kits before without it! Alot easier than sawzalling evry piece!

Oh man a sawzall? Thats too much like work! Ive done some exhaust stuff with a sawzall and that crap is miserable. Plus you can never quite get the angle you want.

RealQuick

03-26-2010, 01:15 PM

Oh man a sawzall? Thats too much like work! Ive done some exhaust stuff with a sawzall and that crap is miserable. Plus you can never quite get the angle you want.

I could cut straight lines fairly good, but cutting stainless was a bitch. I would go thru a blade every 4-5 cuts.

96SilverRam

03-27-2010, 09:18 PM

John,
Your SS work looks great on that 1.75" header !

Transamman25

03-27-2010, 10:38 PM

Amazing work ... whats the cost of his build ?

RealQuick

03-28-2010, 01:50 AM

Amazing work ... whats the cost of his build ?

Thanks for the compliments guys! shoot me an email for pricing ... jon@lt1boost.net

RealQuick

03-28-2010, 10:55 AM

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC01965.jpg
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Fastbird

03-28-2010, 12:47 PM

Jon, really nice work. How big are those primaries??? They look huge.

RealQuick

03-28-2010, 01:01 PM

Jon, really nice work. How big are those primaries??? They look huge.

Thanks. They are 1.75".

Divine02

03-28-2010, 08:02 PM

OH hell I was hoping to have mine done and have some dyno numbers. I still want to try and set a record for your website.

KissMyWhtSS

03-28-2010, 08:34 PM

Looks like it's going along pretty well.. Keep us posted as it progresses. :cool: Should be a pretty bad*** setup.

RealQuick

03-28-2010, 09:11 PM

OH hell I was hoping to have mine done and have some dyno numbers. I still want to try and set a record for your website.

he isnt going to finish the build until the winter next year, so you got time:devil:

kiss - thanks for the words. i'll definitely keep updating as i go.

Nasty93

06-02-2010, 06:11 PM

That looks awesome! i can't wait to get back to my build!

RealQuick

06-03-2010, 04:15 PM

That looks awesome! i can't wait to get back to my build!

Thanks man, get to it already!

chevrolet423

06-03-2010, 04:22 PM

wow that is some dam good work! :popcorn: how much time does it take you to do both headers? lol

RealQuick

06-03-2010, 07:40 PM

Thanks guys.

About 8 hrs getting everything mocked up and test fitted (usually a couple tries to get it the way i want)... then I break the headers apart and weld all the tubes up, then reassemble the headers and weld up the headers.

RealQuick

08-14-2010, 07:30 PM

Bringing this back up as I started on the project again for the customer. I wasn't happy with the fit of the headers, so i remade them :death: I freed up some clearance and made the install much easier.

pass:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC02150.jpg
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driver's:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC02160.jpg
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96SilverRam

08-14-2010, 08:24 PM

Your work is really starting to turn into an artform :cool:

RealQuick

08-14-2010, 09:00 PM

Thanks bro!:D

RealQuick

08-21-2010, 06:06 PM

Test fitting in the car:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC02162.jpg
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Welding... back purge setup.
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Z28pr0jekt

08-21-2010, 07:30 PM

Ugh lol can you uhm, take my kit back and make me a new one lol

<3 your now experienced welds haha

dsmawd350

08-21-2010, 08:39 PM

hahah i was gonna say all your past customers have got to be jealous as every new kit looks that much better than the last

RealQuick

08-22-2010, 07:05 PM

Thanks guys.

Didn't get a whole lot done today. I built a support bracket and the merge.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC02175.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/DSC02176.jpg

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dsmawd350

08-22-2010, 08:24 PM

whats the reason for the drivers side primary to go up and over like that rather than similar to the passenger side routing? steering shaft?

RealQuick

08-22-2010, 08:45 PM

whats the reason for the drivers side primary to go up and over like that rather than similar to the passenger side routing? steering shaft?

that, plus I have to route a 3.5" dp on that side.

Ryan Stout

08-23-2010, 08:00 AM

OK, I've gotta ask....whats with that small AC delete pulley and where did you get it?

RealQuick

08-23-2010, 08:12 AM

OK, I've gotta ask....whats with that small AC delete pulley and where did you get it?

Ryan, I got if off of ebay a couple years ago (advertised as an LT1 A/C delete pulley) :hmm:.

Ryan Stout

08-23-2010, 08:20 AM

Ryan, I got if off of ebay a couple years ago (advertised as an LT1 A/C delete pulley) :hmm:.

Just wondering, I got mine from Advance Auto and the pulley is about 5" diameter haha. Saw it and thought WTF. Looking good dude, wish I had your welding skills. What welder setup do you use anyways?

RealQuick

08-23-2010, 08:25 AM

Just wondering, I got mine from Advance Auto and the pulley is about 5" diameter haha. Saw it and thought WTF. Looking good dude, wish I had your welding skills. What welder setup do you use anyways?

Your skills get better with time and repetition. I am not anywhere close to where I want to be, but I am slowly getting there. Thanks for the words though! I use my Licoln Pro Mig for tacking, then my Miller Diversion Tig for full welds.

RealQuick

09-06-2010, 11:52 AM

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Paulster2

09-06-2010, 12:05 PM

Way too much fun!

mrbadlt1

09-06-2010, 02:59 PM

sounds like a nice build, but the cam seems way too small for the size heads that are going on it

RealQuick

09-06-2010, 05:47 PM

Thanks guys. Yeah, the cam is small, but he doesn't have an absurd amount of power that he is shooting for. I am not sure what driveability or rpm range is wants, but I suspect peak power around 5800rpm.

RealQuick

12-25-2010, 01:03 PM

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RealQuick

12-25-2010, 01:04 PM

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/hotparts2.jpg
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96SilverRam

12-25-2010, 02:37 PM

Pure sex !!! :D

Merry Christmas Jon

zooguy

12-25-2010, 02:48 PM

i would hate to have that opti go out or the knock sensor on that car:laugh:

RealQuick

12-25-2010, 08:55 PM

Pure sex !!! :D

Merry Christmas Jon

thanks mike! You as well!

RealQuick

12-25-2010, 08:57 PM

i would hate to have that opti go out or the knock sensor on that car:laugh:

Piece of cake. Knock sensor would take 2 minutes with this kit, and anyone that has removed the opti with removing the crank pulley (without pulling it all the way off) could easily do it.

05hd

12-25-2010, 11:36 PM

RealQuick

12-26-2010, 02:56 AM

Kit looks real nice.

I'd wager those flex sections have a close to 100% failure rate pre-turbine however. I have seen plenty cause trouble post-turbine. They can't take the heat and collapse on themselves internally.

thanks for the compliment. the flex section will be fine, I have been using the ones without the mesh inner section, that collapse on themselves like you are talking about.

RealQuick

12-29-2010, 09:18 PM

Waiting on some miscellaneous fittings/oil lines. Here is everything else ready to go:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RealQuick/LT4%20power/package.jpg

RealQuick

10-27-2011, 04:05 PM

Added dyno numbers to first post...

RealQuick

10-28-2011, 01:37 PM

He had to stop the session yesterday due to fuel leak @ the injector. He is gonna fix it today and try for 10psi.

RealQuick

10-28-2011, 10:53 PM

Updated again with 10psi numbers

RealQuick

10-29-2011, 08:56 PM

495rwhp/491rwtq @ 7psi
600rwhp/605rwtq @ 10psi

All thru auto tranny and 12 bolt rearend

RealQuick

10-30-2011, 06:08 PM

Cam is a little small, but I suggested that he get the 1.15A/r turbine housing swapped before changing out the cam (make sure the .96 a/r isnt choking those heads).

looks like he had boost creeping up to 14psi right when he made peak power, but the powerband was already done at that point.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/LT1_POWR/Camaro%20turbo%20build/pics.jpg