Is there a timing puller and window switch for the lt1?

[Native]

Like above, I'm wondering if there is a dual purpose unit made for lt1's. From my searching there is the "Timing tuner" for ls1's that is able to pull/add timing as well as window switched nitrous control. I'm familiar that a lot of people run msd digital 6 and the mallory hyfire too but that's not what i'm inquiring about.
Is there something similar for the lt1's?

[Joker Z28]

Sorry I dont have your answer but did want to say that your car looks bad ass.

[pyro719]

Get a Mallory 685.

[AChotrod]

Get a dig 6 and a N2o Outlet progessive controller with a built in window switch. Ask Larry from Speedinc about his 685s

[harner]

+1 for asking Larry. I picked up an MSD 6al2 with an auxiliary timing retard box (MSD #8992). I also plan on grabbing the N20 Outlet prog controller.

[proace4]

i got the mallory highfire box 685. its pretty sweet and the user interface isnt difficult to understand.

[gregrob]

No problems with my Mallory. If you do have a problem they will take care of you. Ask pyro he had his rebuilt because it was bad when he first got it used.

The MSD stuff fails just as often as anything else. Not to mention it takes 4 msd boxed to do what the one Mallory box will do.

[Joker Z28]

Does the mallory 685 retard the timing as the n20 is sprayed or just when its armed?

Becasue I have the MSD6A thinking about selling it for 1 box instead of getting ad ons to the MSD box

[Native]

Sorry I dont have your answer but did want to say that your car looks bad ass.
Thanks man.


No problems with my Mallory. If you do have a problem they will take care of you. Ask pyro he had his rebuilt because it was bad when he first got it used.

The MSD stuff fails just as often as anything else. Not to mention it takes 4 msd boxed to do what the one Mallory box will do.
That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. If I can get an all in one unit I will take it. I already have a msd window switch but then I'd need a device to just pull timing when the nitrous is going to be sprayed. The digital 6 seems popular but it's just as much as the mallory 685 minus the window switch capability.
Surprises me there isn't a timing tuner type box for lt1's.

[gregrob]

You can set up the Mallory either way. Mine pulls when the kit is armed but you can pull when the noids get power only if you want.

In adittion to being a window switch and timing retard, the Mallory has a 2 step, primary Rev limit, start retard, and puts out more volts than MSD.

I love mine so far

[Joker Z28]

Ok I am sold on the mallory now, anyone want to buy a pretty much brand new MSD 6A? haha

[Native]

the Mallory has a 2 step, primary Rev limit, start retard,

I don't know much about those functions. What are they used for?

[TorqueAddict]

not tryin to hijack the thread, but native are you from charlotte nc b/c that looks like zeus performance in the background of your sig

[AChotrod]

Im just sayin Id take the advice from someone who sells, installs, and uses all the different Boxs on Hundreds of cars. Not just one happy customer. Larry had 2 go bad in one yr on his car.

The MSD Digital 6 has everything except the window switch. If you get the standard MSD 6al you need to add stuff to it.
IMO a progressive controller is a must do anyways and has a built in window switch. The DIG 6 box has everything else you need built in.

[Joker Z28]

Ok so dig 6 it is lol I can't decide

[harner]

Talk to a couple vendors - people who actually sell the stuff.

[Joker Z28]

I can sell em both but I do not know which is the better product.

[gregrob]

I don't know much about those functions. What are they used for?

2 step is an auxillary rev limit for launch control, nice to have with 6spd cars or a really big stall.

Start retard allows you to retard the timing upon startup for higher compression engines, etc. To make it easier on the starter

Primary rev limit allows you to set the rev limiter on the ignition box, vs the ECM. A capability your 6A box doesnt have, but a 6AL does. The "L" is for limiter

[gregrob]

Im just sayin Id take the advice from someone who sells, installs, and uses all the different Boxs on Hundreds of cars. Not just one happy customer. Larry had 2 go bad in one yr on his car.

The MSD Digital 6 has everything except the window switch. If you get the standard MSD 6al you need to add stuff to it.
IMO a progressive controller is a must do anyways and has a built in window switch. The DIG 6 box has everything else you need built in.

Maybe it was an issue with where it was mounted, vibration, heat or moisture will kill any sensitive electrical device. But Larry's sharp, so I'm sure he thought of that.

A progressive controller is kinda pointless on a M6 IMO... and not really needed til you're spraying BIG shots.

If you want a 2 step and window switch, in addition to the DIGI 6 you need 2 more boxes.

Believe me I love MSD stuff but that's not something I was willing to do.

The digi 6AL-2 has a 2 step, so in all fairness I guess you could cut it down to 2 boxes, but that's still damn spendy compared to the 685.

If I were gonna spend that kind of money I would go for the Accel 300 and 375+ combo. That's a badass solution for controlling nitrous right there.... :D

[Native]

Im just sayin Id take the advice from someone who sells, installs, and uses all the different Boxs on Hundreds of cars. Not just one happy customer. Larry had 2 go bad in one yr on his car.


I'm sure there is horror stories for both of the products. Being that you are from Chicago and have Speed Inc in your sig....something tells me Larry's advice is like gold to you (which i'm not knocking since the only place I trust for tuning is Speed). Maybe a poll is the best way to see what is working or has worked for the general public.

[Native]

not tryin to hijack the thread, but native are you from charlotte nc b/c that looks like zeus performance in the background of your sig
Yeah that's Zeus but I'm not from that area. I hijacked the pics from the original owner. The car was originally a Zeus sponsored car.

[TorqueAddict]

i thought i knew that car

[DopdBrd]

I bought my Mallory used almost 4 years ago and have never had a problem with it. Works to retard the timing, works for the window switch, and also works for the two step. I'm gonna start using the start retard, since I put this 383 in that thing is a little harder to start LOL.

[AChotrod]

A progressive controller is kinda pointless on a M6 IMO... and not really needed til you're spraying BIG shots.

If you want a 2 step and window switch, in addition to the DIGI 6 you need 2 more boxes

MSD DIG 6 has a 2-step, timing retard, rev limiter and tach output in 1 box. All you need is the window switch or controller and IMO M6 needs the controller way more than an auto. Its already 10x harder to launch NA. It would be way more beneficial to bring in the power as traction allows on a M6.


I'm sure there is horror stories for both of the products. Being that you are from Chicago and have Speed Inc in your sig....something tells me Larry's advice is like gold to you (which i'm not knocking since the only place I trust for tuning is Speed). Maybe a poll is the best way to see what is working or has worked for the general public.

Larry didnt suggest the MSD or actually alot of my parts. I choose them. I do order alot of my stuff and have them tune, and do the work I cant do in my garage though. Great Shop!!

[Joker Z28]

I already have a window switch in my HSW micro-edge, I guess the MSD dig 6 should be enough for me then.

[AChotrod]

Yes it has everything else, only negative is the price.

[mpe331lx]

Mallory 685 here. But I cant comment on its function except the rev limiter. I attempted to run the n20 once, but had an activation issue.

And once I realized that the car was pretty much out of gear N/A with the 4.10s and trapping 122, I have not even bothered to figure out what's wrong.

[Z28pr0jekt]

MSD dig 6 going in my turbo setup :)