Another one of my work "calls"....

[popo8]

This is why, im not sure I want kids.....
To all those who have children, I wish you luck....
Because If I was this girls father, I would be PISSED!!!!!

http://www.pottstownmercury.com/articles/2010/01/30/news/srv0000007469905.txt

[popo8]

For those who dont want to check the link (which is where readers of the paper can make ignorant comments)

Tape shows girl, 13, punching bus driver







Published: Saturday, January 30, 2010
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By Evan Brandt, ebrandt@pottsmerc.com
UPPER POTTSGROVE — Township police are investigating a Tuesday incident in which a 13-year-old sixth-grader from Pottsgrove Middle School is alleged to have repeatedly punched a bus driver in the head.

Pottsgrove Superintendent Brad Landis confirmed the investigation and the age of the girl involved, but said he could not divulge her name.

Landis said he had seen the recording of the incident, which occurred as an after-school activity bus equipped with a video camera was being loaded outside the school, and said he was "surprised" by what he saw; although, he declined to elaborate.

He said the district is conducting an internal investigation, including interviewing witnesses.

"The police are investigating it and they may press charges against one or two individuals," Landis added.

Calls to Upper Pottsgrove police were not returned before press time.

The bus driver who said she was assaulted, Maryann Liebel, was more than willing to describe what happened. She also would not reveal the name of the student in question.

"I was brutally and savagely beaten and I just tried to protect myself," Liebel said.

"The kids were loading, and I was asking them to quiet down," Liebel said.

"I have a real problem with some of the students and how they act and misbehave," said Liebel, who also drives a regular morning and afternoon bus route for CMD Services, the private bus company with which Pottsgrove contracts for busing.

"It's a distraction and a safety issue," she said of the student behavior. She has been a bus driver for seven years, four with CMD.

"This one girl, I've had a problem with her before and I asked her to sit in front, but she headed down the aisle past me and didn't do as I said," Liebel said.

"I tugged on her school bag, you know, to say, 'Hey, I'm talking to you,' and she started screaming 'don't touch me' and pushing me," Liebel told The Mercury. "She pushed me a second time and tried to get past me, and then she started beating me on the left side of the head, between my ear and my eye. She ripped out two earrings, and I think she must have given me 14 to 15 shots."

Liebel said she had "written up" her alleged assailant at least once before.

"The main problem we're having is the students are misbehaving again and again. We write them up and they get taken off the bus for a few days, but then they're let back on. They're continually allowed to ride on the activity bus because it's 5 p.m. and the administrators just want to go home," Liebel said.

On Tuesday, Liebel was told that what was normally two activity buses would be reduced to one, "so I asked for a bus with a camera because of what might happen with so many kids," she said.

"When my boss saw the tape, she complimented me for my restraint. I just tried to protect myself," Liebel said.

She said the police officer investigating the incident, Larry Hanna, "was very objective and he didn't take sides because she claimed I hit her. Then he saw the tape."

Landis said the middle school is in its second year of a program aimed at bolstering "school-wide positive behavior support, a comprehensive behavior support program."

Last spring, during a presentation on the program to the Pottsgrove School Board, the program was outlined. It specifies particular behaviors expected in any given location, including on school buses.

Already the program has garnered the attention of the state and was included in a booklet on "Schoolwide Positive Behavioral Support."

Last spring, former Vice Principal Theresa Koehler told the school board that after a year, infractions for inappropriate behavior had dropped from 141 to 103, fighting from 31 to 11 and insubordination from 57 to 41.

Landis said Friday that trend is continuing, but said an incident such as this one can stand out and create an entirely different impression.

"There's been a tremendous decrease" in citations for misbehavior, "and something like this is hopefully just an anomaly."

The district has weathered two incidents recently involving Pottsgrove students — one the Nov. 23 East Coventry crash that killed two Pottsgrove High School students; the other the Dec. 12 Route 100 crash in Upper Pottsgrove that killed two Pottstown High School students and injured a Pottsgrove High School student.

"I'll be glad that when I come back in to school Monday. It will be February," said Landis. "January hasn't been good."
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[Tarheel'Z']

popo i imagine if you were this girls father she wouldnt be in that mess to begin with,,,it all starts at home brother

[Blubird]

did you guys miss she was a 13 yr old 6th grader lol

[popo8]

you know... kids just are not the same like when I was a kid....

[96lt1m6]

You are correct POPO and its the parents that are failing these misguided children,not enough HOME DISCIPLINE!

[AChotrod]

you know... kids just are not the same like when I was a kid....

True that!!!!! We would have hijacked the bus tied up the bus driver and went on a field trip.

[popo8]

You are correct POPO and its the parents that are failing these misguided children,not enough HOME DISCIPLINE!

Your sooooo right. When I was a kid and I f'd up, my parents whooped my ass, and I deserved every bit of it..... NEVER would I have thought of hitting them back, or calling the cops.... etc.

[jaysz2893]

did you guys miss she was a 13 yr old 6th grader lol

My wife teaches 6th grade and our oldest is 11 (and in her class). She did have a 14 year old in her class 2 years ago, now he is the coolest kid in 8th grade cause he has a car.. LOL

I can tell you some stories, but my wife would get mad. Put it this way, the parents are just as bad as the kids. is all about "ME" They have more excuses for thier bad behavior and try to justify thier kids actions all the time. One year she had a parent (who was 25 and had a 11 year old- do the math) come into the school during the day and threaten another 6th grader that was bothering his kid. Nad his kid was just as big of an ass as he was. I am sure I now pay for the incareration of both of them... i weep for the future...

[popo8]

Let me tell you, for me to do anything with this kid, I needed the mother around. The mother advised she was in Phily when I called her and she wasnt comming down.... (WHAAAAAT!!!!) then she calls me back and tells me that her friend would come down to pick up her daughter. I advised my investigation had only just begun and NO ONE was leaving.

She said to me on the telephone "INVESTIGATION, WHAT INVESTIGATION????, an adult hit my juvenile child, arrest her." no matter how much I tried to explain to this lady that to me its not an adult and a child, it is two INDIVIDUALS involved in an altercation, and that is how I will handle it. SHe continued to yell at me, telling me what to do, I repeatedly asked her to stop yelling and that my investigation would yeild and answer..... She YELLED again, so as promised, I hung up on her....

[Tarheel'Z']

this reminds me why i wish my kids didnt have to go to public school,,which sucks because i think public school is good for them in alot of ways just not TODAY'S public school

[jaysz2893]

what really pisses me off is the parent will try to make a case out of it, it may go to court and tie up precious resources. What the F@#K happend to accountability and respect? I could have never gotten away with this kind of bullshit 20 years ago.

[jaysz2893]

this reminds me why i wish my kids didnt have to go to public school,,which sucks because i think public school is good for them in alot of ways just not TODAY'S public school


I am a product of 12 years of private school. My parents sacrificed a lot to send me there. We had some issues in private school but they were dealt with severly and swiftly. I have a cousin that teaches in a private school now. She says it is no better than public now, just the kids have to wear uniforms. School is not about learning anything now. It is all about who is friends with who, who has the best cell phone, etc... Somehow it has turned into a social club...

[popo8]

Well there is already rumor of issues from the NAACP, because the 13 year old is African American and the bus driver is white....

Best thing the school and the PD has going for them with the NAACP headache is.... Im the minority "mocha" Officer and it was MY arrest... My investigation.....

[Tarheel'Z']

what really pisses me off is the parent will try to make a case out of it, it may go to court and tie up precious resources. What the F@#K happend to accountability and respect? I could have never gotten away with this kind of bullshit 20 years ago.

dead on as usual jay....dont know about your school 20 yrs ago jay but at mine the principle had a paddle that looked a shaved down 2x6 and he had a picture of butterflies over his desk,,needless to say if you went in his office and was told to look at the pretty butterflies you had a sore ass for a couple days and it made you think about what you did..
im not saying that paddle was the key to a better society, but when the discipline was taken away from school and anywhere for that matter,its like it gave kids the right to run over the adults..what ever happened to respecting your elders? people laugh about how square the 50's were etc etc,,i would give anything to raise my kids in those times

[jaysz2893]

no offense to any race here, but why must the "card" be pulled in these occasions??

[popo8]

no offense to any race here, but why must the "card" be pulled in these occasions??


because EVERYONE involved always wants the upper hand... and when they are not dealt the right hand... thats that majic card thats hidden up their sleeve....

You are totally right.... I wish i could post the video for you all to see.... this kid was outta control, and the bus driver was scarred!!....

[jaysz2893]

we will NEVER progress as a nation as long as "special intrest groups" are allowed to throw around their "perceived" clout. I had some hope, but i see it more every day. Everyone just needs to shut the F up and stop acting like animals...

[popo8]

we will NEVER progress as a nation as long as "special intrest groups" are allowed to throw around their "perceived" clout. I had some hope, but i see it more every day. Everyone just needs to shut the F up and stop acting like animals...


Dead on!!!!!

[stevo9389]

thats sad no discipline, respect or accountability. the parents and media no longer treat situations like these as an embarrassment and instead feed off of it.

[jaysz2893]

thats sad no discipline, respect or accountability. the parents and media no longer treat situations like these as an embarrassment and instead feed off of it.

it should be an embarassment. Back in my day it would have brought shame to my parents. Oh wait I forgot it is now "cool" to act like a jackass...

Bring back public flogging!!

[94Blackbird]

This is just sad.
And the race card is retarded. Everybodies built the same underneath thier skin color.

[popo8]

I keep reading the comments added by the people who read the paper, and some of their comments are ridiculous. Everyone knows how to "fix " the problem, however.... the people on this site have the right idea...

Fixing the problem starts with the parents at home not allowing the kids to BE the problem....

[94Blackbird]

Fixing the problem starts with the parents at home not allowing the kids to BE the problem....

Amen to that. I thank my lucky stars every day that my parents refused to stay out of my life, even if they were out of each others.

[popo8]

By Evan Brandt, ebrandt@pottsmerc.com
UPPER POTTSGROVE — An assault charge has been filed against a 13-year-old Pottsgrove Middle School student in connection with a Jan. 25 incident on a school bus in which she is alleged to have beaten a school bus driver in the head.



Upper Pottsgrove Police Chief William Moffett said Wednesday afternoon that an aggravated assault charge was filed.

The assault is considered aggravated because the bus driver is "a school agent and that makes it an extra charge," he said.

Moffett said police had reviewed a recording of in the incident which was taken by the bus video camera and "it was pretty violent. It was pretty much like you had it in the paper, there were at least a dozen strikes to the driver's head," he said.

As a result, "we believe the charges are appropriate," said Moffett, who said he had consulted with the Montgomery County District Attorney's office before filing the charges.

A hearing in juvenile court has been tentatively scheduled for Friday, said Moffett.

Pottsgrove Schools Superintendent Brad Landis, who has confirmed that he also saw the video, would not disclose the sixth grade student's name, but has said the district is conducting its own internal investigation as well.

The driver who was assaulted, Maryann Liebel, works for CMD Services, the private bus company which has the Pottsgrove School District's busing contract, and has been a school bus driver for seven years, four with CMD, she told The Mercury last week.

She also told The Mercury "I was brutally and savagely beaten and I just tried to protect myself," Liebel said.

Liebel said the incident occurred as "the kids were loading, and I was asking them to quiet down," Liebel said.

"This one girl, I've had a problem with her before and I asked her to sit in front, but she headed down the aisle past me and didn't do as I said," Liebel said.

"I tugged on her school bag, you know, to say, 'Hey, I'm talking to you,' and she started screaming 'don't touch me' and pushing me," Liebel told The Mercury. "She pushed me a second time and tried to get past me, and then she started beating me on the left side of the head, between my ear and my eye. She ripped out two earrings, and I think she must have given me 14 to 15 shots."

The incident occurred on an "activity bus," which is run for students who stay after school for special activities. Liebel said the normal two-bus run had been reduced to one and she requested a bus with a camera on it because she was worried about behavior problems on the crowded bus.





By Carl Hessler Jr.
chessler@pottsmerc.com
WEST NORRITON – The 13-year-old Pottsgrove Middle School girl accused of beating a school bus driver in the head is being detained at the Montgomery County Youth Center pending a hearing next week.

Montgomery County Judge Wendy Demchick-Alloy ordered the girl detained until she has an adjudication hearing Feb. 12 on charges of aggravated and simple assault and disorderly conduct in connection with the alleged Jan. 25 incident on a school bus.

“The aggravated assault charge was based on an attempt to cause bodily injury to a school employee,” alleged Assistant District Attorney Mark Antonacio, explaining the nature of the charge included in the juvenile petition filed in court by Upper Pottsgrove police on Friday.

Antonacio declined further comment. Under state law, only limited information can be made public about juvenile cases. The girl’s name has not been released.

[popo8]

To be clear, I charged her with
-Felony Agg Assault
-Mis Simple Assault
-Summary Disorderly Conduct.

[mmd8x28]

If I ever did anything, I was grounded, and my TV removed, and if I got out of hand, I was spanked right on the butt...

Thing is, my younger years WERE violent, but my parents put me in a special private school to deal with that.. If I got out of hand, restrained immediately.

Today, I turned out well. A Gentleman, kind, always wanting to help people. I thank my parents for raising me right, and doing everything in their power to get me right.

[popo8]

Thats where its either controlled or not man... at home with the parents.....

You shouldve seen the mother and daughter as the video was played in chambers..... they giggled together at the beating she gave the bus driver.... I actually had to walk out of the room......

[BLK95TA]

because EVERYONE involved always wants the upper hand... and when they are not dealt the right hand... thats that majic card thats hidden up their sleeve....

You are totally right.... I wish i could post the video for you all to see.... this kid was outta control, and the bus driver was scarred!!....

isn't that the truth....

I was suspended twice in high school. once for Not defending myself (and a teacher even saw this kid hit me and i didn't hit him back and and didn't send me to the principals office, she only sent the kid who was pushing me) and the second time i i got into a fight i did hit back (primarily because of getting suspended the first time when i specifically didn't touch the kid so i wouldn't get in trouble, i was later informed it took 2 to fight even though i never touched the kid so i got suspended too.) and the second fight was with a black basketball player who was standing in front of me while i was sitting at a desk getting into my face harassing me for no reason saying "i was fucking your mom last night, bla bla bla" and all i said to him was "no i think you were with your mom last night" and he hit me and went for a second punch and i blocked it by slamming his arm away from me and then he hit me a second time. anyway back to the race card thing. there were 5 or 6 students in that class and the teacher was out of the room. after he hit me the second time i got up and left the class because i was pretty pissed off. he told everyone in the class to tell the teacher that i called him a nigger and thats why he hit me. i didn't get along with many people in my high school and this was a behavior mod study hall which was why i was there. anyway they went along with it and we both got a 3 day suspension. it was total BS because i never said that to the kid but he pulled the race card since he knew that he instigated the whole thing.