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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stout View Post
    I made 511tq at the wheels on my last 70mm setup before I went with a MP76 and a better tune. The more I look into it, I might just go 355. Would a 383 be any more unreliable? I've heard that if you spin a 383 to 6000rpm, its about like spinning a 355 to about 7500 due to the longer stroke and how much farther the rods and pistons have to travel in the same amount of time. I'd like to be able to cruise up to Indy (about 60 miles) without worrying if I'll break while playing around up there. Just weighing all my options before I really go through with it.

    Thanks for the help Call911
    Just like the amount of difference in torque, the reliability on the 383 would only vary upon what parts you build it with. 4 bolt mains, and higher quality parts will make it just as strong as any well built 355. Building a strong 383 is nothing new, tons of people have been doing it for a long time and throwing TONS more power than your goals are set to.

    My 383 is extremly well built, and it sees 7,000 RPM boosted and I am more than confident that it will last well beyond 100,000 miles before I need to do any major maintenance on it.

    Here's 7,000 RPM on my 383
    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/M...ost_145597.htm
    1995 Z28 -M6, D1SC, FMIC, ect. - 614 RWHP
    1998 Formula WS6 -Heads, cam, intake, bolt ons 441RWHP


  2. #12

    Holy shit, after watching your vids, I might as well go 383 while I'm in there. What heads did you go with? I was looking at a LE2 setup. Also, what crank and rods did you use? I emailed ohio crank and for a forged bottom end, they wanted $1700 for a crank/rod/SRP piston setup. Seems a bit pricey to me but I have a lot of research ahead of me. I haven't heard a lot about them really.
    1995 Z28 'vert. Forged 383, T56 swap, GT-88 turbo, S60, Devils Own...

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    IMO, after building a wild blown 383 and driving a few blown 355 cars... For a street car, Id rather have a higher reving 355 with a stick shift tranny than a low end torque monster 383. The torque difference can be huge and my 383 makes way to much for the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stout View Post
    Holy shit, after watching your vids, I might as well go 383 while I'm in there. What heads did you go with? I was looking at a LE2 setup. Also, what crank and rods did you use? I emailed ohio crank and for a forged bottom end, they wanted $1700 for a crank/rod/SRP piston setup. Seems a bit pricey to me but I have a lot of research ahead of me. I haven't heard a lot about them really.
    I have AFR heads, Lunati sledgehammer crank, and Oliver billet rods. This is part of why I am confident my motor will last 100,000 miles under a moderate (15#'s) of boost. All together I've got more than $10,000 just in the motor, but I went with the best parts money could buy. You don't have to do it that way, but you'll get the most performance and endurance out of it if you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire67 View Post
    IMO, after building a wild blown 383 and driving a few blown 355 cars... For a street car, Id rather have a higher reving 355 with a stick shift tranny than a low end torque monster 383. The torque difference can be huge and my 383 makes way to much for the street.
    Depends on your opinion
    1995 Z28 -M6, D1SC, FMIC, ect. - 614 RWHP
    1998 Formula WS6 -Heads, cam, intake, bolt ons 441RWHP


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire67 View Post
    IMO, after building a wild blown 383 and driving a few blown 355 cars... For a street car, Id rather have a higher reving 355 with a stick shift tranny than a low end torque monster 383. The torque difference can be huge and my 383 makes way to much for the street.
    Thats kinda what I'm afraid of, I'd also like to buy a S60 this winter. If I go 355 I won't buy heads but just port match mine, and I won't need to replace my injectors I just bought. I guess I just need to think about it (or someone to talk me into it the night before I order parts haha).
    1995 Z28 'vert. Forged 383, T56 swap, GT-88 turbo, S60, Devils Own...

  6. #16

    Quote Originally Posted by CALL911 View Post
    I have AFR heads, Lunati sledgehammer crank, and Oliver billet rods. This is part of why I am confident my motor will last 100,000 miles under a moderate (15#'s) of boost. All together I've got more than $10,000 just in the motor, but I went with the best parts money could buy. You don't have to do it that way, but you'll get the most performance and endurance out of it if you do.



    Depends on your opinion

    What are some other good brands? I hear compstar is good stuff too.
    1995 Z28 'vert. Forged 383, T56 swap, GT-88 turbo, S60, Devils Own...

  7. #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stout View Post
    What are some other good brands? I hear compstar is good stuff too.
    As far as what parts? Compstar makes decent parts. Best parts you can get for crank, rods, and heads are pretty much what I have in my motor and previously posted. LE can do some amazing things with heads also. Fastbird has a set of TFS heads ported by LE and they put mine to shame on the flow bench (granted my AFR's are 180's and his TFS heads were 227's)
    1995 Z28 -M6, D1SC, FMIC, ect. - 614 RWHP
    1998 Formula WS6 -Heads, cam, intake, bolt ons 441RWHP


  8. #18

    After pricing a few items, I have so far a Lunati sledgehammer crank, Scat forged H beam rods, SRP 31cc dished pistons, JE rings, and a set of 4 bolt splayed Eagle main caps (already on their way). How does that sound for now? A total of $1600 so far in parts, then about $500 in labor I've been quoted and $570 for a LE cam and Patriot extreme springs (as suggested by LE).
    1995 Z28 'vert. Forged 383, T56 swap, GT-88 turbo, S60, Devils Own...

  9. #19

    Sounds fine man.
    1995 Z28 -M6, D1SC, FMIC, ect. - 614 RWHP
    1998 Formula WS6 -Heads, cam, intake, bolt ons 441RWHP


  10. #20

    I'll be ordering some parts next week it looks like. BTW, while I have your attention, what size(s) are your wheels and what tires did you do with? I snatched up a set of OE C5 wheels a few months ago for $100 for all 4 (17x8.5 and 18x9.5). I'd like to get some DRs for the back. Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it. I'll use this as a build thread and get lots of pics in the next few months.
    1995 Z28 'vert. Forged 383, T56 swap, GT-88 turbo, S60, Devils Own...

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