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    Default Thermostat delete or keep

    Today I I'm working on the electrical part of the car and replacing a fuel pressure gauge with water temperature gauge. Which got me to thinking about water temperatures for my car and how hot I think it will really get. With this car being carbureted instead of fuel injected that might have a factor in my decision but ultimately a cooler motor will make more horsepower. So for being a car that's not going to see extensive driving on the streets like cruises or road trips mainly going to be drag racing do I really need to run a thermostat? ... the vehicle has an electric water pump some people were talking about restrictor plates as I was reading. I'd like for some of y'all to weigh in on this please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooguy View Post
    Today I I'm working on the electrical part of the car and replacing a fuel pressure gauge with water temperature gauge. Which got me to thinking about water temperatures for my car and how hot I think it will really get. With this car being carbureted instead of fuel injected that might have a factor in my decision but ultimately a cooler motor will make more horsepower. So for being a car that's not going to see extensive driving on the streets like cruises or road trips mainly going to be drag racing do I really need to run a thermostat? ... the vehicle has an electric water pump some people were talking about restrictor plates as I was reading. I'd like for some of y'all to weigh in on this please.

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    with an lt1 you NEED to run a thermostat due to the design of the cooling system. this isn't a normal sbc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby Z28 View Post
    with an lt1 you NEED to run a thermostat due to the design of the cooling system. this isn't a normal sbc.

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    Not trying to be childish but I'm trying to understand a little bit further could you elaborate some more please. Does it have something to do with the reverse Cooling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooguy View Post
    Not trying to be childish but I'm trying to understand a little bit further could you elaborate some more please. Does it have something to do with the reverse Cooling?

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    yes it has everything to do with the reverse cooling. no stat it will bypass the engine

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    Never run anything without a thermostat. There shouldn't be any debate. Just run a cooler one. It's like a traffic cop sort of for your cooling system.

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    Okay so I definitely need something in there I saw some people talking about restrictor plates would I be able to use one of those

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    A cold motor doesn't always make more power than a correct temperature one either.

    Run a 160/180* stat
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    I had a 160 in it before and it ran about 180 ... I would always get a little nervous when it ran 200 plus as it approaches the boiling temperature of water it just makes me nervous

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooguy View Post
    I had a 160 in it before and it ran about 180 ... I would always get a little nervous when it ran 200 plus as it approaches the boiling temperature of water it just makes me nervous

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    because it starts opening at 160, full open by 180, which is fine. fluid under pressure raises boiling point. factory fan setpoint are 232-237f, because antifreeze under pressure doesn't boil till then

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    Zoo
    run a 160 stat and have PCM programed to turn on fans lower than stock temp

    if your motor is Carb now and not using a PCM than just get a inline temp switch to turn fans on at desired temp

    but run a stat. you can buy ones that fail "open"
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