Video :] 30 cobra vs 95z28

[95ztrey]

95z28 vs 03 cobra

cobra has upper 2.8 puller , 2lb lower , cai,short throw, full bassani exhuast tb,tune

95z28 has le1 heads le2 cam full bolt on 3.42s enjoy:finger:

YouTube - Scout - 03' Cobra vs. 95' Z28 Camaro


ill get my video up soon this is from his car 25 roll :)


i raced a blue one also :)

[BIGT94z]

nice!!!!

[mpe331lx]

Good Kill!

[Phstratton]

Very nice!

[proace4]

your car flat gets it!!! nice kill.

[95ztrey]

thanks man :)

[Bear1101]

Hell yeah !!!! Nice kill man.

[OVA1]

Well... Alllllrighty then...:finger:

Where are you guys runnin at? Looks alot like West Texas...

[BSmiff]

Looks like Mexico to me.....

[95ztrey]

hahah good ol mexico :) i live in the texas panhandle with the crappy-most horrible air ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was 6750 DA on that race haha

[OVA1]

hahah good ol mexico :) i live in the texas panhandle with the crappy-most horrible air ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was 6750 DA on that race haha

Lubbock? Man I bet I've been on that road it looks awfully familiar...

Lived out there for about 7 years...

[95ztrey]

Amarillo tx

[cobra12]

which would win? a bone stock cobra or z28

[mpe331lx]

which would win? a bone stock cobra or z28

Are you serious?

[proace4]

cobra for sure!

[proace4]

wait... edit that. of it was a pre-03-04 cobra... Z28.

but 03-04... not even close. 14 sec Z vs a high 12s with a good driver

[mpe331lx]

wait... edit that. of it was a pre-03-04 cobra... Z28.

but 03-04... not even close. 14 sec Z vs a high 12s with a good driver

Its not even a race between a stock lt1 and a stock 03/04 Cobra.

Even 96-01 N/A Cobra, Id have to give it to the Cobra. A 96-98 (305HP) will usually run a 13.7 @ 102 (Ive seen 13.5 @ 104 in great conditions) The 320 HP 99/01 runs slightly better (the best Ive seen stock is a 13.4 @ 105)

Its really a drivers race between an LT1 and an n/a Cobra with the edge going to the Cobra.

[proace4]

hmm... the few i have seen around here must just suck at driving then. i have yet to see one in the 13s. most stock LT1s run low 14s as well though. and we agree on the termi's! lol

[95ztrey]

My buddy raced a sn95 cobra with exhuast and all he had was exhuast and a cutout and pulled him my a nose :)

[mr maimi]

sorry the only cobras that run are 03 and 04 because of the super charger. i have killed mech 1`s and thay are almost as fast as a cobra from 03 and 04. and faster the any earlyer year cobra.

[proace4]

ok i will give props to a termi... i dont usually mess with one. on a mach its a different story. most say stock for stock its a drivers race with the edge to the LS1. I might agree with that but then again i dont drive an LS1 and i've only raced one as the car sits now minus the bottle. And it wasnt close!

[mpe331lx]

hmm... the few i have seen around here must just suck at driving then. i have yet to see one in the 13s. most stock LT1s run low 14s as well though. and we agree on the termi's! lol

You make a very good point. The driver and the ability to get the most out of the car is the key. It is easier to get the most out of a stock LT1 then it is to get the best out of a stock N/A 4.6 Cobra.

With that bieng said, an stock N/A Cobra driven to its full potential is quicker and faster than a stock LT1 Z28.

Here are a couple times from auto magazines (a good driver powershifting usually can beat the auto magazine drivers times):
Road and track 01 Cobra: 13.5 @ 105
Motor trend 01 Cobra: 13.79 @ 103



The best road test I was able to find for an lt1 z28 was a 14.1 @ 101 (altough I did see a 13.8 listed in a generic ET list)


In real world dragstrip action, I have personally gone 13.89 @ 100 in a stock 6 speed 95 Z28.

Ive also gone 13.79 @ 102 in a stock 98 Cobra (the 96-98s are slower then the 99/01s)

I have personally seen a bone stock 01 Cobra run a 13.4 @ 106 at BMP.

The average stock 6 spd lt1 around here seems to run mid 14s @ 95 and the Cobras are usually running 14.2s @ 100. Chalk that up to some shitty conditions and inexperienced drivers.

The same goes for the mach1's. A lot of local drivers have a hard time getting them into the 13s, lol. But when driven to thier potential that can hit a low 13 @ 106-107 (shit sorry ass motor trend got a 13.2 @ 106 out of one)

The one thing to keep in mind is stock gearing. The lt1 has a broad torque curve with 3.42s. They may not be optimum for the drag strip and absolute best ET, but they do a pretty good job keeping the LT1 in its power range. Hence makking the car fairly easy to get a decent ET out of it.

The N/A 4.6 Cobras on the other hand lack low end torque and have a pretty narrow, peaky powerband. The stock 3.27 gears do a TERRIBLE job in keeping it in its powerband. Look at the mod list of any truly good performing n/a Cobar and you'll more than likely see a set of 4.30's or 4.56's (some even run 4.88s!). Most old school 5.0 people and others that "just dont get it", cringe at the idea of running that much gear. But it works. The shitty stock gearing plays a big roll in poor performance. Get caught in the wrong gear or at the wrong RPM and its all over for the poor 4.6.



My buddy raced a sn95 cobra with exhuast and all he had was exhuast and a cutout and pulled him my a nose :)

Thats not stock, lol. The faster car does not always win the race. Just like at the strip, reaction time, shifting speed, shift points, etc all will be a big factor in deciding the outcome of a race. I said it earlier in the thread, it really is a drivers race between the LT1 and an N/A Cobra, but given they both are driven to thier potential, I'd give the edge to the Cobra.

Its just like a mach1 (5 spd) and an ls1 bieng a drivers race from a dig. The mach can come out of the hole pretty good. If the ls1 driver is on his a game, he should be able to pull around him. From a roll, its all ls1.


sorry the only cobras that run are 03 and 04 because of the super charger. i have killed mech 1`s and thay are almost as fast as a cobra from 03 and 04. and faster the any earlyer year cobra.

That is a typical ignorant statement. So you beat some mach1s, good for you:claps:. I also beat mach1s in my old slow ass bolt on 4.6 2v Mustang GT

Was my GT faster? Hell no! I beat faster cars with good driving, thats all. Just because you you kill some fools that dont know how to drive, you put the cars down and say that the 03-04 is the only one that runs?



Is your car stock (what are the mods)?

We were talking about stock vs stock.


How many bolt on lt1s run 11s @ 114+? And I'm not talking about record setting flyweights. Full bolt on, gears, suspension, slick N/A Cobras can hit a bottom 12 @ 112 all day long. In the right conditions have went 11s.

Of what I've seen, 12's seems to be the number to hit with a full bolt on car.

I'm not on here to bash LT1's, I have an lt1 that when it had bolt ons it would beat the AVERAGE bolt on N/A Cobra with a 13.1 @ 107 with only exhaust, CAI, and EWP. But I also know that it would have gotten its ass handed to it by a properly set up one.

No matter what site, there is always one sided oppinionated people out there that talk doen on whatever brand car they dont have. They only pay attention to whats going on with thier cars and what people are doing with them. Then thay only see the idiots in the competitors cars out in the streets or at the local test and tune running poor times and group all the cars into that performance range.

BTW, I also get into these same arguments with ford owners saying the lt1 is a high 14 second car at best.

I just cant stand to see missinformation spread around.

[cobra12]

Are you serious?
Yea I'm serious. I honestly didn't know.

[mpe331lx]

Yea I'm serious. I honestly didn't know.

LOL, I though it was to try and stir it up a little.

Yeah, stock for stock, the two cars that raced in this thread would not even be a race.
But as you know, a H/C lt1 is no joke.

I'm still wanting to get a hold of a pullied Cobra in the Wifes LT1. It will be close:metal:

[proace4]

Haha dang what a reply!!! I wasn't talking trash at all... Promise. I gave the cars their due, but I also was just stating that I have seen some that don't perform to motortrend standards. Haha but I do agree win most of what you said! What year is your cobra? I've only raced a gts from all years, one termi, one 427r w/ trak pack, and the few na cobras on the track(don't know their years though). With the exception or the termi my car was just how it sits now. Cept a good tranny and the valve springs were all in tact and where they are supposed to be!

[Z28pr0jekt]

Enough of the thread hijacking, this is about the OPs vid not random rants.

Start a new thread if need be

["97z]

their not hijacking! they are still talking about kill stories just at a different level:D

[Z28pr0jekt]

No they're hijacking, they can talk about kill stories all they want, in their own thread.

Off topic of the OP = hijacking

[proace4]

woosaw man!!! we didnt mean any harm by it. just got a little off topic. a friendly reminder and we are done. thanks for looking out for the op and to the op i'm sorry for takin over.

[BluBeaSSt]

Very nice!

[95ztrey]

No worries guys :)

[mpe331lx]

Haha dang what a reply!!! I wasn't talking trash at all... Promise. I gave the cars their due, but I also was just stating that I have seen some that don't perform to motortrend standards. Haha but I do agree win most of what you said! What year is your cobra? I've only raced a gts from all years, one termi, one 427r w/ trak pack, and the few na cobras on the track(don't know their years though). With the exception or the termi my car was just how it sits now. Cept a good tranny and the valve springs were all in tact and where they are supposed to be!

Its all good!

The white one is a 96 with an 04 Cobra Crate motor and KB2.8H. It has supprised quite a few people thinking that its a 13 second bolt on car:jest:

The grey one is an 03. I'm in the middle of a big pro charger/ stalled auto build for it:metal:


Enough of the thread hijacking, this is about the OPs vid not random rants.

Start a new thread if need be

Its cool. We just had some oppinons and facts to post.

Dont you know, all mustang vs camaro threads turn into this:)

[OVA1]

Amarillo tx
Amarillo... Ahh... Close enough, been there many times. Congrats again... Stay on 'em.

[95ztrey]

Will do haha , I'm about to load 5 gallons of 109 in her and add some more timing ;)

[6spdZ]

I must say you flat out rapped em'.... Ive been trying to my buddy to run me in his 03 cobra... he hasnt been to interested since my cam swap... lol.. He didnt mind on rapping a bolt on LT1 tho..

[95ztrey]

run em , hahaha its alaways fun to run cobras ;)

[6spdZ]

You went 12.48 @ 111 and put over 2 on a pullied cobra..? most cobras make 450rwhp with pullies and a tune...? sup with the cobra.......?

btw, what gears you running.?

[mpe331lx]

You went 12.48 @ 111 and put over 2 on a pullied cobra..? most cobras make 450rwhp with pullies and a tune...? sup with the cobra.......?

btw, what gears you running.?


Dont look to far into histimes in comparison to what a pullied cobra runs. If I remember right, he was/is at a pretty high elevation. Not only will his times be slower, the Cobra's will be too.

The average full weight pullied Cobra runs high 11s @ around 118. They are packing quite a bit of weight (3665 stock without driver), so little bit of weight reduction goes a long way. There are pullied car running well into the 10s with a hard enough launch.

When my 03 only had a 2.8 upper pulley, off road mid pipe, cat back, and a CAI, it would run consistant 11.7s @ 116-117 on ET streets.

On DRs it would trap 118-119 but only run 12.0s.

A properly set up H/C lt1 is no joke, and the OP proves it by taking out an 03 that should have enough power to trap 122-124 full weight (with his mods at sea level).

[95ztrey]

yes sir , we havr the worst air here !!!! i have the stock 3.42s in the rear and a stock clutch hahaha

[6spdZ]

Well I dont deny that he beat a pullied cobra...
I dont have the issue of a high DA.. Im in Ark so mine is pretty good ALL the time...
What would you be lookin at with a decent DA?
Kris

[95ztrey]

i dont treally knoww but from what the local speed shops that i hangout at say about 11.50-11.70s which would be great haha:)

[6spdZ]

i dont treally knoww but from what the local speed shops that i hangout at say about 11.50-11.70s which would be great haha:)

That would be real nice!

[95ztrey]

very nice haha :) i cant wait to run in the good air to see the difference ;)

[6spdZ]

Im ready for the winter again!

[95ztrey]

same here the other night the DA was 4500 , that was cause it was raining

[6spdZ]

what you run in the 1/8th et/mph?